Idea: easy solution to PvP suicide turds.

[_47_]

You got me. I am a filthy tryhard bitch.

I gotta be more like you man. I'm jealous.

[SHADOW OPS]

 

You got me. I am a filthy tryhard bitch.

I gotta be more like you man. I'm jealous.

Nah. Just be yourself.

[_47_]

 

 

You got me. I am a filthy tryhard bitch.

I gotta be more like you man. I'm jealous.

Nah. Just be yourself.

 

All in good fun. Indeed.

 

Then again if Rockstar took away the K/D. I would continue to kill other players anyway. It's the only fun thing I can do in this game. I won't change a thing in regards to my pvp strategy. So there is that. I am who I am.

Edited August 13, 2017 by _47_

[Big Molio]

How about instead of all that just remove the KDR stat?

I don't think that would be fair, for the simple reason is that some players obviously play a primarily PvP game to boost / enhance / maintain their K/D ratio. That's their thing. Some players rush straight for every Dead Drop, some players ignore it completely. Some players do heists all the time, some players have never done a heist. Some players constantly race, others don't bother with them whatsoever. Some players have thrown themselves into photography and video making.

 

The game is pretty diverse, and there are cultures and groups that surround every type of group or solo activity, and the fact is that there is a culture of players who dress up in all the (annoying to us) usual clothing and spend their time trying to maintain the K/D ratio. They probably compete against their peers who do the same thing. So whilst it is irritating, it isn't personal and they are just playing a specific game within the game constraints.

 

If it irritates other players, just avoid them, but it isn't really right to just shout that their particular style of play should be taken out of the game altogether, just because some don't like it.

Edited August 13, 2017 by Big Molio

[Smooth Longsack]

If you can't beat em, join em. Cash me owsai.

[CosmicBuffalo]

If you cant beat them, join them. Posting negatively about this topic means you have have lost. Its done to irritate and annoy opponents not protect kd.

 

Just remove the kill count screen, then there is nothing to brag about, and let the player keep track if it means so much. Anyone can have a ridulous kd by playin spawn traps or using a jet.

Edited August 13, 2017 by GenericGTAO

[fatdog]

BST+heavy sniper. No mid-fight ewo´s since you blast them oneshot. Where is the problem?

Lmao, are you pretending or what? Bst is #1 in tryhard list, he will more likely block bst for everyone but himself, than let you use it exclusively.

 

Everyone, thanks for massive responces, but I only liked idea with bad sport points for suicide.

1) If you just make it affect kdr, they will keep doing that for duel kill score, this aint solving sh*t. Kdr can always be gained from harrasing low levels.

2) Sometimes you actually want to hurt them, but they end up with dozen suicides and pretty satisfying score.

3) Removing Kdr\ewo itself is too radical, why deprive everyone of the feature, because of bunch of no lifers abusing it ugly way? Always better sort them out personally.

[SHOKKERZ91]

Well, you even bitch about underpowered helicopters... So it doesn´t surpise me that you bitch about everything else in the game too. Just use passive. Oh, and get in a car. Tryhards will try to kill you by jumping out of moving vehicles.

[Arrows to Athens]

This solution was suggested since 2015. You'd think Cockstar would have done something by now.

 

You know what's even more funny? If you shoot a player with the Heavy Sniper, and you get a hitmarker on him, and then he jumps over a bridge and falls to his death, it counts as your kill.

 

If you shoot a player with the Heavy Sniper, and you get a hitmarker on him, and then he commits suicide with a sticky bomb, it doesn't count as your kill.

 

Wha...? Here's an example with a car:

 

 

 

I hit the guy, and his death fom the fall counted as my kill, since I was the last person to hit him. Now, had he killed himself with a sticky bomb right after, it wouldn't have counted as my kill. You see how Rockstar logic works?

 

To sum it all up, PvP suicide is surely an annoyance, but it's certainly not game-breaking. Making it so that the last person who shot the player gets granted the kill will be more than enough. No more than a 30 second timer should be good enough.

Edited August 13, 2017 by Arrows to Athens

[askinnywhitedildo]

To everyone suggesting that we just avoid these scumbags: No. We shouldn't have to change sessions, or use pussy mode, or ghost ourselves to them, or whatever else leaves them free to keep being scumbags to other players, because they're still being scumbags, and Rockstar is enabling that.

There's nothing you can do about it. And R* couldn't careless.

 

I come across a few a week and try my hardest and even I have to walk away, and I usually NEVER walk away, and it feels like sh*t. But that's all you can do. You either fight and waste a lot of time and a lot of deaths, or you walk away. Walking away typically pisses them off more than killing them anyway, so it kinda equals out.

 

They are a pointless enemy that you need to avoid. They're skill means sh*t, and most likely they would get their sh*t pushed in if they were in a real DM. If you see someone wearing all black, with white hair, face paint, a rebreather, and with red eyes, you walk the f*ck away.

[Arrows to Athens]

Oh, and get in a car. Tryhards will try to kill you by jumping out of moving vehicles.

That can't happen if you're in a car yourself.

[EkaSwede]

Best solution is making the suicides count towards deaths.

 

Better would be making it retroactive.

[TankGirl]

Simple solution R should make it count against KDR and while they are at that put a longer timer on passive mode. I had someone doing that a week or so ago and I just kept shooting them with my heavy, sometimes I got them before they took the ewo and sometimes I didnt,

[Garland137]

I never paid much attention to the suicide spammers until last night. I gave public free roam a shot for the first time in months, and the first guy I encounter is this dickwad harassing an MC that's doing their best to ignore him. So I figured I'd distract him with a willing opponent. After failing to be credited with several kills, I figured out that everytime he spawned, he'd throw down a proximity mine at his feet and then stand still. He's firing off all these sniper and homing launcher rounds, but anytime anyone fights back at all he just moves a little and blows himself up. Land any bullets at all on him, boom, blown up. Ram him with an Insurgent, credit still goes to his mine. I tried shooting him with my explosive sniper, and his ragdolling body sets off the mine, so it still counts as a suicide. It's ridiculous. You can't even dick around in a free roam PVP battle without some tryhard loser sucking all the fun out of it.

 

I really hope R* rethinks their suicide mechanics for GTA VI, because the current system sucks. I can't think of any other game that makes such generous concessions to players that blow themselves up. At the very least it should hurt KDR, which these suicide spammers seem to be obsessed with.

[Furry_Monkey]

I personally don't think that most of them care about K/D. I think it's just that little bubble of time they're in that they're thinking about, and as long as they're "up on you" then they're happy. There's no way around that mentality, other than not take part. They may be weak for being actually afraid of what happens in a game, but you're just as weak if you can't walk away.

[Skeve613]

For free mode, no. K/D only matters to those who care about arbitrary numbers more than the actual gameplay. If I am fighting someone and force them to intentionally or accidentally suicide, I know I caused their death and it doesn't matter to me what shows up in the killfeed. Conversely, when I get credited for a kill I know I didn't intentionally cause or deserved, it means little to me personally.

 

The only times I care about EWO in a K/D context is intentionally doing it to irritate the tryhards who do care and put them on tilt by denying them any satisfaction - and I wouldn't give that particular pleasure up.

 

 

Of course for Death Matches and other competitive modes, I'd agree that kills should get credited for suicides since that actually can affect a game outcome and in that context K/D actually is somewhat more meaningful.

 

 

Does it really matter to anybody outside those guys who play for the K/D thing? It's their thing, just leave them to it.

 

Seconded.

[fatdog]

Well, you even bitch about underpowered helicopters... So it doesn´t surpise me that you bitch about everything else in the game too.

There go typical braindead tryhard scum. I hope you realised by now, how retarded your advice to "use bst for one shot" was? Now back to your new idiotic statement - you obviously use ESP cheat to track every target around, and no, cheats and kdr worshipping are not the only things this game about.

[SHOKKERZ91]

There is nothing stupid about my advice. And even if BST gets blocked, i don´t need it, i just use my helicopters (which i use quite effectivly when you bitch so much about them).

 

My KD/R doesn´t matter. I never bragged with it. You come here to the forums, mark me as a cheater and bitch about everything in the game. Now you started an useless topic (because there are already other threads about this subject).And complain about a playing-style you don´t like. This play-style exists since release. Either you adapt, die while bitching or you use passive. And now stop with your whining and "you use ESP" crap. There is a f*cking minimap in the game. I use that minimap to spot you.

 

Ps: you have footage of me killing you? I always wanted to see how it looks when i kill someone with my savage.

[Shadowfennekin]

Just remove it all together from your statistics.

In Deathmatches, sure that can exist. But Freeroam and general stats? f*ck no.

 

Eliminating K/D from general stats would sure eliminate most of these try-hards.

 

 

Or just credit 'suicide' or ewo to the last person to shoot or touch them. That would hurt a lot of their egos. You only really care about K/D if you're just trying to compensate for something and we all know it.

Edited August 14, 2017 by Shadowfennekin

[EvilFuture]

BST+heavy sniper. No mid-fight ewo´s since you blast them oneshot. Where is the problem?

This is the only time I'll ever accept BST as fair, unless they're using it first of course. If you're gonna be a little bitch with me and blow yourself up mid fight, I'm gonna do something about it. The second I see them register as CEO (if they're not already), I'm starting a sightseer so they can't use BST either. That's when they usually teleport to their apartment/passive and send me messages. Pathetic.

[fatdog]

There is a f*cking minimap in the game. I use that minimap to spot you.

 

Yhyh, few mm diameter dot, which covers dozens meters of actual space, very helpful. You played exactly how expected from person with wallhack.

Or just credit 'suicide' or ewo to the last person to shoot or touch them. That would hurt a lot of their egos.

Thats what I'm suggesting

[SHOKKERZ91]

 

There is a f*cking minimap in the game. I use that minimap to spot you.

 

Yhyh, few mm diameter dot, which covers dozens meters of actual space, very helpful. You played exactly how expected from person with wallhack.

Or just credit 'suicide' or ewo to the last person to shoot or touch them. That would hurt a lot of their egos.

Thats what I'm suggesting

You just topped blastermans stupidity-level. You are just like 90% of the whole gta-playerbase. You think you are good, and that everyone who is better than you cheats. Let me get one thing straight: you suck. You got defeated by a slow and bigass helicopter without any armor multiple times. You also bitched about happy hunter on his videos, suspecting him of cheats too. I met idiots like you in other games too. I met them in cod, i met them in battlefield. They where exactly like you, bad at playing, but always having the biggest mouth. You, my friend, are the true definition of a flamer.

[Happy Hunter]

I actually remember a video SHOKKERZ91 posted a while back, of some Savage gameplay. No cheats or anything.

 

Not going to dig it out without his say so, but yeah - no mods.

 

On topic: I'm not a fan of suicide spam, and would like to see some little changes. Not going to take it personally that other people on here do it though.

[Neuling2000]

Make it so that you can only use it five times in a GTA day then once you surpass five you only get four for the next GTA day and so on. Once you are down to only one EWO for every GTA day it stays that way in perpetuate as punishment for being a bitch.

 

So I can't die from my own explosives anymore? I can jump off a building or crash a plane without dying? Yes this seems to make fun.

 

I mean,, theres even players who place stickys on their buzzards or jets before attacking player.. Just so they can blow themselves up at the 1st sign of danger while they go around attacking others. That level of bitchery deserves to be in its own server..lol

 

Lol.

I do it too. No easy kill for Mr. homing launcher noob when I'm flying around.

[Vod364kax]

Why not make it so when their health goes red, any death from there on be it suicide, accident, or another player killing them, gives the person who took their health down a point in the kill feed.

[joao_inca]

Imagine if Rockstar made EWOs count as deaths right now,

Alot's of 0.01 KDs would roam around, including me

[REXX]

I never paid much attention to the suicide spammers until last night. I gave public free roam a shot for the first time in months, and the first guy I encounter is this dickwad harassing an MC that's doing their best to ignore him. So I figured I'd distract him with a willing opponent. After failing to be credited with several kills, I figured out that everytime he spawned, he'd throw down a proximity mine at his feet and then stand still. He's firing off all these sniper and homing launcher rounds, but anytime anyone fights back at all he just moves a little and blows himself up. Land any bullets at all on him, boom, blown up. Ram him with an Insurgent, credit still goes to his mine. I tried shooting him with my explosive sniper, and his ragdolling body sets off the mine, so it still counts as a suicide. It's ridiculous. You can't even dick around in a free roam PVP battle without some tryhard loser sucking all the fun out of it.

 

I really hope R* rethinks their suicide mechanics for GTA VI, because the current system sucks. I can't think of any other game that makes such generous concessions to players that blow themselves up. At the very least it should hurt KDR, which these suicide spammers seem to be obsessed with.

Should have sniped the mine

[lll-H-I-M-lll]

I kill these sort of drama queens once, it can take time too get this one kill but thats all i need Then i go passive and taunt them non stop that i own their ass and they my bitch till they redeem themselves

 

Then its passive bail time non stop everything and anything gets launched lol

[REXX]

I love it when they go passive and think they're safe

 

... only to get hit by a boat

[.Vooodu.]

 

 

 

I mean,, theres even players who place stickys on their buzzards or jets before attacking player.. Just so they can blow themselves up at the 1st sign of danger while they go around attacking others. That level of bitchery deserves to be in its own server..lol

 

Lol.

I do it too. No easy kill for Mr. homing launcher noob when I'm flying around.

 

 

Why are you attacking players if you don't want to play with them?

 

I don't get it.. And i never will get people who are scared to see someone get a pop up credit on the screen for getting killed by a player. I mean, what kind of mentality does someone have to have to be constantly thinking "Gotta put sticky's" by my feet.. "Gotta put stickies on my Helicopter jet".. Can't let noobs kill me.

 

Dumb noobs need to kill me faster then i can i kill myself or they SUCK!.

 

Even last night.. I had 3 players in that new Custom Armed Insurgent trying to kill me.. After i went OTR and grab my Oppressor and went after them and started blasting them they all EWO. Thats basically a mass suicide and funny as hell to me.

 

In their minds they think they prevented me from getting kills on them.. In my mind i caused them kill themselves, which basically means i made them all tap out. Which is even worse then dying by my hand.

 

But maybe im playing the game wrong.. Maybe i should have just killed myself 20 times till they got tired of chasing me.

 

 

Like i was sayin' They need to make Bad Sports count for killing themselves.

Edited August 14, 2017 by .Vooodu.