GTA 6 Leaks & Hints Topic.

[Matsen]

22 minutes ago, Eadwine_ said:

 

That song just brings back so many great memories of GTA SA. K-DST will forever be the greatest GTA radio station, IMO.

Yeah K-DST was great. Tbh all of the music from San Andreas was great. I think R* should revisit the 90's someday.

[DexMacLeod]

6 hours ago, Matsen said:

"In my mind 80's can tell even wider array of stories. Just let's imagine for a moment we play mission in GTA VI set during the 80's in VC. You control a protection racket and one of the shops stopped paying so you gotta send them a message. You drive there park your 1970 Firebird around the back door. You take your Ingram Mac-10 from your trunk get inside and start spraying all over the shop. In a modern setting this whole situation would look totally different, possible even stupid and childish. But in a 80's settings its somehow plausible."

To me, whether or not that scenario seems plausible is really more about whether or not it fits the character committing the act. I could see characters like Johnny, Trevor or a frustrated Michael doing this in their respective games and time periods pretty easily. 

[Matsen]

Just now, DexMacLeod said:

To me, whether or not that scenario seems plausible is really more about whether or not it fits the character committing the act. I could see characters like Johnny, Trevor or a frustrated Michael doing this in their respective games and time periods pretty easily. 

Well, I cannot without feeling it would be a little bit "out there". I can see that done by Trevor, but besides him not really, not in a modern setting, but in the 80's I can see this done by any generic character imaginable so that was my point.

[Uncoupledspy]

I want to relive the 80's. Once GTA VI drops people are gonna dress up like 80's characters 

[Matsen]

2 minutes ago, Uncoupledspy said:

I want to relive the 80's. Once GTA VI drops people are gonna dress up like 80's characters 

The closest thing to a time machine huh?

[DexMacLeod]

2 minutes ago, Matsen said:

Well, I cannot without feeling it would be a little bit "out there". I can see that done by Trevor, but besides him not really, not in a modern setting, but in the 80's I can see this done by any generic character imaginable so that was my point.

But why, though? I mean, Michael stole his gardner's truck and tried to demolish a home with it. That was after he forced Franklin to drive an SUV through a car dealership's front window. And that was just the beginning of the game. GTA takes place in a crazy, over the top world. The things that happen are supposed to feel more than a little bit "out there". Shooting up a shop is pretty tame in this universe.

[Matsen]

8 minutes ago, DexMacLeod said:

But why, though? I mean, Michael stole his gardner's truck and tried to demolish a home with it. That was after he forced Franklin to drive an SUV through a car dealership's front window. And that was just the beginning of the game. GTA takes place in a crazy, over the top world. The things that happen are supposed to feel more than a little bit "out there". Shooting up a shop is pretty tame in this universe.

But does it have to take place in a crazy over the top world? Does it have to be this silly video game or something more than that. I think GTA has a potential to tell something more than some crazy sh*t, you know. I just want GTA to be more mature than it is. GTA IV tried this and a lot of people loved it. I'm not one of those persons who speaks of GTA IV like some gift from heaven, don't get me wrong I love GTA IV, (it would be my favorite game in the series if not for the broken PC port) but I don't think it was as good as people make it out to be... story wise of course.

Edited August 22, 2019 by Matsen

[B_E_N_1992]

39 minutes ago, Matsen said:

Yeah K-DST was great. Tbh all of the music from San Andreas was great. I think R* should revisit the 90's someday.

They will visit the 90”s with SF and LV, based on the Triads.

[Zello]

GTA IV could have worked in the 90s in like 98 or 99. Only difference would be Darko's betrayal would have been recent so Niko's search would have been shorter.

Edited August 22, 2019 by Zello

[Jabalous]

1 hour ago, Zello said:

Vice City 1989. The 80s are coming to a close and the colors are fading away. But crime and drugs are still going on strong. You're a new player in town and manage to piss off the biggest drug lord in the city who is not Tommy but is based heavily on Tommy Vercetti different universes after all. You build up your empire, setup drug deals, take out all your rivals, and try to keep the cops off your trail.

You forgot to tell that this is a true leak form your source. Take your moment, Zello.  

Edited August 22, 2019 by Jabalous

[Matsen]

4 minutes ago, B_E_N_1992 said:

They will visit the 90”s with SF and LV, based on the Triads.

I hope.

 

4 minutes ago, Zello said:

GTA IV could have worked in the 90s in like 98 or 99. Only difference would be Darko's betrayal would have been recent so Niko's search would have been shorter.

Yeah you're right. Liberty City with twin towers... damn that would be so cool.

[Zello]

7 minutes ago, Jabalous said:

You forgot to tell that this is a true leak form your source. Take your moment, Zello.  

No it's speculation lmao. I ain't no leaker

Edited August 22, 2019 by Zello

[DexMacLeod]

7 minutes ago, Matsen said:

But does it have to take place in a crazy over the top world? Does it have to be this silly video game or something more than that. I think GTA has a potential to tell something more than some crazy sh*t, you know. I just want GTA to be more mature than it is. GTA IV tried this and a lot of people loved it. I'm not one of those persons who speaks of GTA IV like some gift from heaven, don't get me wrong I love GTA IV, (it would be my favorite game in the series if not for the broken PC port) but I don't think it was as good as people make it out to be... story wise of course.

I wouldn't mind seeing them take another shot at a slightly deeper main character. I think Niko was a failed experiment, honestly but Houser's really grown as a writer since then so it'd be interesting if he could pull off something akin to RDR2 in the GTA universe.

 

I think the world around that character still needs to be pretty eccentric, though. The thing I liked about GTA IV was that Niko was sort of a grounded and sane (when the story needed him to be) person in a very insane world. That contrast is where a lot of the humour came from in that game.

 

And the over the top action and criminality just makes for a much more fun game, in my opinion.

5 minutes ago, Matsen said:

Yeah you're right. Liberty City with twin towers... damn that would be so cool.

 lol, I had never even thought of that. Youtube would just be full of people crashing planes into them.

[Zello]

1 minute ago, DexMacLeod said:

 lol, I had never even thought of that. Youtube would just be full of people crashing planes into them.

IV had no planes though.

[mute!]

I'd be disappointed if Rockstar doesn't take advantage of today's US climate. Especially its President constant "bleeting". Not to mention all the crap that is going on including another recession looming. Present day is just too good to ignore.

[Zello]

4 minutes ago, mute! said:

I'd be disappointed if Rockstar doesn't take advantage of today's US climate. Especially its President constant "bleeting". Not to mention all the crap that is going on including another recession looming. Present day is just too good to ignore.

That would be boring what would that have to do with crime. 

[DexMacLeod]

3 hours ago, Zello said:

IV had no planes though.

Yeah, I guess I was just thinking in terms of GTA VI. 

[mute!]

5 minutes ago, Zello said:

That would be boring what would that have to do with crime. 

What I said is more so related to a old Houser interview.

 

With GTA, the atmosphere is very important. Correct me if I'm wrong but GTAs will stay in the U.S because of its political and superficial ways. It's too easy to write for and make fun of compared to anywhere else.

 

I've been googling for the interview and can't seem to find it. Not saying the 80s or 90s doesn't, but I feel like today's climate gives Rockstar a ton of material to work with to make GTA 6 cover a lot of areas, topics, like GTA 5 did. 

[DexMacLeod]

43 minutes ago, mute! said:

What I said is more so related to a old Houser interview.

 

With GTA, the atmosphere is very important. Correct me if I'm wrong but GTAs will stay in the U.S because of its political and superficial ways. It's too easy to write for and make fun of compared to anywhere else.

 

I've been googling for the interview and can't seem to find it. Not saying the 80s or 90s doesn't, but I feel like today's climate gives Rockstar a ton of material to work with to make GTA 6 cover a lot of areas, topics, like GTA 5 did. 

There's this interview with The Guardian where he says that "GTA is America": https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2013/sep/17/grand-theft-auto-5-gta-dan-houser-interview

 

Doesn't really go in depth on it but I remember what you're talking about. GTA's political, social, and pop culture satire of America is as much a part of GTA's DNA as stealing cars is. Maybe even more.

[Devdevi45]

If gta 6 indeed to release 2-3 whatever years away then I expect a trailer in Later this year just like gta 5 trailer drops years before release.

[6fangedcutthroatTV]

14 hours ago, HOW'S ANNIE? said:

I've never understood this sentiment at all. There are plenty of other US cities that are ripe for a GTA game; Boston, Chicago, Dallas, Washington, Detroit. The GTA fanbase always seems to be against any originality on Rockstar's part.

 

Plus, to be a tad pedantic; since GTA 1 we've had London and GTA 2's Anywhere City. Do I see them ever coming back? Fat chance in hell, but we have had other locations before.

 

How many movies and tv shows and celebrities can you name that came from or are based in those places? They aren't ripe for it - it undermines what the world is. Honestly, that's probably why we don't see VC anymore - though just like how MW is being reimagined, VC *IN THE 80s* should absolutely be redone at this point.

 

NYC and LA are really what work in GTA the best. Same reason GTA Tokyo would be dumb: Everyone in Tokyo knows exactly what NYC and LA are like and watch all the movies that take place there.

 

Is MCU based in Dallas? Is it based in Montana? No. It is based in LA and NYC and San Fransisco, these are the main locations. Like every other big movie or show or celebrity: NYC and LA. in the 80s, Miami was very relevant, which is why so much was able to be done for Vice City around Miami based theme.

 

A modern-day vice city would absolutely lack the "world wide" recognizable "tropes and callbacks" that NYC and LA could do any time from 80s til today.

 

That's how the sentiment is - Liberty City is not just "new york" - it's new york *media*. Liberty City does not portray New York City, it portrays New York Cinema and Popular Culture, which again, is worldwide recognizable.

 

Dallas would be cool for people in Dallas. Everyone else in the country, and world, would not really get it, because so few things in comparison bring them close to it. No matter where you are from, if you're watching classic or current movies, listening to classic or current music, following celebrities, it's LA and NYC.

 

Leave the other locations for games like Mafia, for example. Look at Mafia III. That game is New Orleans. It's boring and though it tried to do a lot of the same things as GTA does, with a more serious tone, it did not work because "the whole world" does not know new orleans the way that the whole world can love LS and LC because the whole world does know and relate to NYC and LA.

 

It's very hard to explain, I feel like the best way to say it would be to harken back to the GTA V reveal "That thing... you see it in the movies" - that magic, that worldwide thing. You just don't get that in other places, it would all feel like Watch Dogs or Watch Dogs 2. Those games are okay, but they are not like GTA.

 

London was an expansion to GTA 1, a fun thing they did that ended up popular so it got its own release. GTA 2 was a clue. London GTA would appeal to people who know alot about london. It would not be as fun for the rest of the world as LC and LS are for Londoners.

Edited August 23, 2019 by HelloMyNameIsHuman

[Zello]

32 minutes ago, HelloMyNameIsHuman said:

 

How many movies and tv shows and celebrities can you name that came from or are based in those places? They aren't ripe for it - it undermines what the world is.

Chris Pratt is from Minnesota, Brad Pitt is from Oklahoma...

 

I disagree there are celebrities from many unknown places in the states and there are a lot of good movies/ TV shows not set in major cities. Look at Fargo both the movie and show set in Minnesota, and Breaking Bad set in New Mexico.

Edited August 23, 2019 by Zello

[6fangedcutthroatTV]

3 minutes ago, Zello said:

Chris Pratt is from Minnesota, Brad Pitt is from Oklahoma...

 

I disagree there are celebrities from many unknown places in the states and there are a lot of good movies/ TV shows not set in major cities. Look at Fargo both the movie and show set in Minnesota, and Breaking Bad set in New Mexico.

 

Where do they spend their time now? You named Breaking Bad in new mexico. What else is in new mexico? Or are we going to do GTA Breaking Bad parody and that's it? See what I mean? It's all LA and NYC. Even all the movies filmed in georgia are only filming there and are based in other places on the screen. Like LA and NYC

Edited August 23, 2019 by HelloMyNameIsHuman

[Zello]

1 minute ago, HelloMyNameIsHuman said:

 

Where do they spend their time now? You named Breaking Bad in new mexico. What else is in new mexico? Or are we going to do GTA Breaking Bad parody and that's it? See what I mean?

You brought up the MCU the first Thor movie took place in New Mexico.

[6fangedcutthroatTV]

Just now, Zello said:

You brought up the MCU the first Thor movie took place in New Mexico.

Ha, good point 

 

Thor is also heavily criticized for its choice in location, though that is overshadowed by the hatred for Dark World.

 

The whole world relates to and recognizes NYC and LA. Only you and Chris Pratt and Fargo fans know about Minnesota. But everyone in Fargo, Minnesota know about LA and NYC and strive to be like them and get their very being from what they see on TV based around those places. think of eminem "We're the ones who made you". Think of Amazon's excellent series "THE BOYS" and what Stillwell tells Starlight about how she loved that movie and they designed it and thus designed her - the exact same sentiment of the line "we're the ones who made you". Everyone "Everywhere" knows those places. See what I mean? It IS difficult to explain, but it's about world-reaching pop culture more than anything else.

 

NYC and LA are universally known. Only Brad Pitt and Fargo fans know about Minnesota, and even people in Minnesota relate to and see more from NYC and LA than they see from Fargo.

 

It is VERY difficult to put into words. I think you might start to see what I am saying now.

[Zello]

1 minute ago, HelloMyNameIsHuman said:

Ha, good point 

 

Thor is also heavily criticized for its choice in location, though that is overshadowed by the hatred for Dark World.

 

The whole world relates to and recognizes NYC and LA. Only you and Chris Pratt and Fargo fans know about Minnesota. But everyone in Fargo, Minnesota know about LA and NYC and strive to be like them and get their very being from what they see on TV based around those places. think of eminem "We're the ones who made you". Think of Amazon's excellent series "THE BOYS" and what Stillwell tells Starlight about how she loved that movie and they designed it and thus designed her - the exact same sentiment of the line "we're the ones who made you". Everyone "Everywhere" knows those places. See what I mean? It IS difficult to explain, but it's about world-reaching pop culture more than anything else.

 

NYC and LA are universally known. Only Brad Pitt and Fargo fans know about Minnesota, and even people in Minnesota relate to and see more from NYC and LA than they see from Fargo.

 

It is VERY difficult to put into words. I think you might start to see what I am saying now.

It's not just TV and movies. I'm a big sports fan. So I tend to care about teams in other places. You look at for example the NBA or the NFL a lot of the good teams are in small markets.

[6fangedcutthroatTV]

13 minutes ago, Zello said:

It's not just TV and movies. I'm a big sports fan. So I tend to care about teams in other places. You look at for example the NBA or the NFL a lot of the good teams are in small markets.

Yeah, but what does that have to do with it? Help me to put this into words, if possible?

 

Like, sure, everyone who likes sports has a favorite team, but the mets, jets, giants, raiders, and lakers have more fans across the entire globe than any other single team has even in their own town (proportionally speaking).

 

Basically, a game that "satires" (quotes because satire really isn't the word for GTA) popular culture needs a plethora of places to draw from. You can't discuss as a whole world where this reference is from or what that is making fun of and is funny because it's totally how it really is/funny because it's true when it's made in london or fargo or anything. Londoners can like it, but then the rest of the world is left out. But Londoners are included in NYC or LA, and so is the rest of the world. Because those two places the whole world knows, and 80s miami brought Russia to the fanbase in a big way. 

 

Did you know that the american version of "the office" was nearly canceled in its first season because they tried to make it too much like the British version and people didn't relate to it?

 

You make a GTA in London, and you get London rolling but everyone else doesn't get it.

 

You make a GTA in Fargo, which is basically what we got in the V prologue scaled back, and sure, fargo people will get it, but everyone else will miss it.

 

You have 1000s of movies and tv and news stories and world events to mirror in GTA that took place in NYC, LA, and 80s miami for every 1 that took place anywhere else in the world.

 

The pot runs dry very quickly outside of these locations, and the game turns into some other open world game.

 

Help me explain this, anyone? Someone, help me explain. If you understand what I am saying, @Zello, help me put it into words - it's tough for me to explain. There isn't much that is tough for me to explain, I just don't have the words to say it.

 

All those easter eggs and references that make GTA more than a game, make it worthy of discussing, making videos of, talking about, hunting and trawling through, those are because of the wealth of things that are based around those locations. You just can't have that in london or dallas or tokyo - only londonders, dallasites, and tokians will get that. Forgive me dallasites and tokians if that is not what you are called xD

Edited August 23, 2019 by HelloMyNameIsHuman

[Zello]

I'd love to see a game set in Dallas.

Edited August 23, 2019 by Zello

[DexMacLeod]

You really think Fargo would go from a movie to a TV series that's about to get its fourth season if only people from Minnesota and North Dakota liked it? It's a Global hit. And the MCU is not popular because of where it's set, that's just silly.

 

GTA is made by incredibly talented people. Pretty sure they don't need to depend on the popularity of whatever city they choose for a location to make a compelling story and a distinctly GTA feeling game. 

 

To me the fact that a boatload of other things have been in or about New York and LA is a solid reason not to keep mining them for games.

[Pink Pineapple]

I think most fans want HD versions of Vice City, San Fierro, and Las Venturas. I can see SF and LV being in the same game, so those 3 cities could cover the next 2 games over the next 16 years or so. After all those years, people would be ready for Liberty City and Los Santos again.