GTA 6 Leaks & Hints Topic.

[sauron246]

the gta universe will be in the sense of ls vc lc if the east coast south americian rumours are true gta online will continue to be updated for the long term future alondside gta 6 vice city is certain im not sure about liberty city but i hope im wrong 

[Matsen]

7 hours ago, DexMacLeod said:

You''re right, it doesn't mean they want only modern vehicles, but it does mean they want them. The vehicle wishlist thread in the GTA 6 subforum is pretty similar. I'm pretty sure most car enthusiasts (and that's a pretty big subculture within the GTA V community) would want as much car variety as possible.

Yeah sure, I also want modern vehicles. That doesn't mean older cars are a no no for me. I prefer older vehicles actually. Car enthusiasts make a big number in GTA community yes. Probably all of the post related to vehicles is nothing but car guys, but imagine if GTA VI was announced and we've got 80's setting let's say. Which one of them would say something like "ew I cannot have my modern mustang, I don't like that". I actually believe car enthusiasts would welcome that type of setting. Who wouldn't like seeing all of the legendary cars. For car culture alone this setting scores 10/10. I am pretty biased towards GTA set in the past so maybe I'm wrong.

[Eternal Moonshine]

7 hours ago, DexMacLeod said:

I don't really see how the time period would prevent or aid them in telling a compelling story. Both Vice City and San Andreas could easily be re-written to a modern day setting without much, if any, change to the chore of the story. Same goes for the cities they take place in, honestly.

i never said that modern day setting prevents them from telling a compelling story. what i meant is that some stories work better in the past. modern VC and San Andreas would become something completely different from the original experience. i'm interested in seeing one of those stories that work better in a period piece. Las Vegas and San Francisco in the 70s could be great 

 

8 hours ago, Finite said:

Based on what? Limiting player choice? Preventing newer more unique ways of interacting with the game and it's world? There is fundamentally nothing unique about the 1980's that cannot be replicated in a modern GTA, the inverse is not true, there are plenty of awesome things that couldn't be included in a purely period piece GTA, this works fine for RDR 2 because it's setting actually catches up to the first game and includes basically all of the content that people enjoyed in that game just improved and expanded upon.

how setting it in the past would limit the number of unique ways of interacting with the game? what exactly would we lose besides modern music and cars? what exactly is impossible to include in a period piece GTA?

[Secura]

Modern clothing, weapons, the UI system in place since IV, all forms of modern vehicles not just cars, all forms of modern entertainment and utility, Internet, Smart Phones, In game social media that reacts the story and what you do, all new societal commentary rather than the same commentary already made in previously visited era's and so on.

 

Music and cars are like 50% what makes GTA special FWIW.

8 hours ago, squeezx said:

Name a modern day crime drama that’s better than any period piece crime drama. All the best directors set the iconic crime movies in the past. Casino anyone ?

Breaking Bad is the best crime drama ever made, for it's time the Sopranos was, both of which had a modern setting, f*ck The Wire is an amazing crime drama that's only a period piece now but when it was airing it was modern.

[Matsen]

17 minutes ago, Finite said:

Modern clothing, weapons, the UI system in place since IV, all forms of modern vehicles not just cars, all forms of modern entertainment and utility, Internet, Smart Phones, In game social media that reacts the story and what you do, all new societal commentary rather than the same commentary already made in previously visited era's and so on.

 

Music and cars are like 50% what makes GTA special FWIW.

Breaking Bad is the best crime drama ever made, for it's time the Sopranos was, both of which had a modern setting, f*ck The Wire is an amazing crime drama that's only a period piece now but when it was airing it was modern.

Modern clothing? Like a T-Shirt, jeans and sneakers? Come on bro don't be ridiculous. The UI? Now this is complete nonsense. How in the hell setting prevents the game from having UI? Cars and Guns? You can read all of my previous post. 92FS and Uzi isn't exactly modern invention. Modern utility, internet and smarphones. @Benefactor69 already explained everything there, you just need to go back and read it. This whole argument is forced. Complete nonsense. Breaking Bad, Sopranos... yeah sure nobody said you cannot make a crime drama in a modern setting bro. But what about Carlito's Way, Scarface, Donnie Brasco, The Godfather, Casino and so on. This whole point makes no sense. We're getting nowhere.

[Secura]

18 minutes ago, Matsen said:

Modern clothing? Like a T-Shirt, jeans and sneakers? 

No like literally all modern fashion since the end of the 1980's. 

 

The time between today and 1989 is the same as the time between 1959 and 1989. Were there no changes in fashion during that period, because now there are and it's significant. We're also talking fashion spanning four decades. "T-shirts, jeans and sneakers" existed in the 80's there's a lot more nuance to it than that.

18 minutes ago, Matsen said:

 How in the hell setting prevents the game from having UI?

Because every GTA uses the smart phone system to authentically and immersively allow the player to interact with the game. Going back to a pager system is quite limiting in this regard.

 

18 minutes ago, Matsen said:

92FS and Uzi isn't exactly modern invention

https://www.militaryfactory.com/smallarms/guns-1990-1999.asp

 

https://www.militaryfactory.com/smallarms/guns-2000-2009.asp

 

https://www.militaryfactory.com/smallarms/guns-2010-2019.asp

 

Over 360 potential weapons in those lists alone.

18 minutes ago, Matsen said:

explained everything there, you just need to go back and read it. This whole argument is forced. 

The World Wide Web didn't even exist until the 90's so no it isn't.

 

18 minutes ago, Matsen said:

nobody said you cannot make a crime drama in a modern setting bro. 

Nobody said that a modern crime drama can't be better than a period piece crime drama, GTA IV is the best crime drama in a GTA and it has a modern setting.

Edited August 22, 2019 by Finite

[Emmi]

Roxie Vizcarra is not working at R* anymore. I'll miss her iconic artstyle.

[Matsen]

21 minutes ago, Finite said:

No like literally all modern fashion since the end of the 1980's. 

 

The time between today and 1989 is the same as the time between 1959 and 1989. Where there no changes in fashion during that period, because now there are and it's significant. We're also talking fashion spanning four decades. "T-shirts, jeans and sneakers" existed in the 80's there's a lot more nuanced to it than that.

Because every GTA uses the smart phone system to authentically and immersively allow the player to interact with the game. Going back to a pager system is quite limiting in this regard.

 

https://www.militaryfactory.com/smallarms/guns-1990-1999.asp

 

https://www.militaryfactory.com/smallarms/guns-2000-2009.asp

 

https://www.militaryfactory.com/smallarms/guns-2010-2019.asp

 

Over 360 potential weapons in those lists alone.

The World Wide Web didn't even exist until the 90's so no it isn't.

 

Nobody said that a modern crime drama can't be better than a period piece crime drama, GTA IV is the best crime drama in a GTA and it has a modern setting.

These are all non issues. Just because you cannot wear yeezys or whatever doesn't make the game worse. The UI thing... who said GTA has to have a smarphone as a UI element. Tbh pager at least would be something interesting, but besides we cannon have a window open or some other way I'm not thinking about right now? That doesn't limit immersion. Now the guns. I'm a gun nut so you can't get smart on me with this one. I'm telling you 90% of the firearms on that list are based on cold war tech anyway. If not for the picatinny rails you wouldn't even see the differance. Look at what weaponry are in GTA IV. Glock 17, Desert Eagle, Micro Uzi, MP5 lookalike, AK, AR-15, Model 700, PSG-1, Remington 870, RPG-7. Can you tell me which one of those firearms would not be possible to implement in a 80's game? The internet... why we need internet for? You want to buy a car you just go to the dealer, and by this way of doing that its actually more interesting, more immersive.

Edited August 22, 2019 by Matsen

[HOW'S ANNIE?]

2 hours ago, HelloMyNameIsHuman said:

GTA should literally always be LC, VC, SA. It has been since GTA 1. It's been longer since we saw VC than any other location from the game. SA was redone in V 9 years later, SA 2004,  V in 2013. We have not seen Vice City in 17 years, 13 years if you count VCS.

I've never understood this sentiment at all. There are plenty of other US cities that are ripe for a GTA game; Boston, Chicago, Dallas, Washington, Detroit. The GTA fanbase always seems to be against any originality on Rockstar's part.

 

Plus, to be a tad pedantic; since GTA 1 we've had London and GTA 2's Anywhere City. Do I see them ever coming back? Fat chance in hell, but we have had other locations before.

[squeezx]

1 hour ago, Finite said:

Breaking Bad is the best crime drama ever made, for it's time the Sopranos was, both of which had a modern setting, f*ck The Wire is an amazing crime drama that's only a period piece now but when it was airing it was modern.

Yes exceptional shows but not in the same league as period piece crime epics such as The Godfather, Goodfellas and Casino. 

 

Also just because something is made in the current or modern time and then becomes old doesn’t automatically make it a period piece. A period piece is designed to be filmed or made specifically to recollect an era or pay homage to period of time previous to which the actual film is made. 

So If something is made in current time and becomes dated it is then called nostalgic not a period piece. 

[Eternal Moonshine]

1 hour ago, Finite said:

Modern clothing, weapons, the UI system in place since IV, all forms of modern vehicles not just cars, all forms of modern entertainment and utility, Internet, Smart Phones, In game social media that reacts the story and what you do, all new societal commentary rather than the same commentary already made in previously visited era's and so on.

we had all this stuff in GTA V. everything that was considered modern at the time, will still be modern when GTA VI is released. the internet could be replaced by newspapers and magazines. it wouldn't change anything gameplay wise. we'd still get the same or even greater amount of content but provided in a different form. the same goes to smartphones. we could have a brickphone and a magazine instead. we could even carry a camera just like in San Andreas. what else are smartphones good for? social media is cancerous. would anyone really miss it? but even this feature could be replaced by something that works in the past. people used to write letters to editors and it could be a great new way to replace life invader. the UI doesn't realy need to change. lack of modern clothing wouldn't be an issue just like it wasn't an issue in RD, VC or San Andreas. most of the weapons would still be available. maybe except for ray guns but then again we don't have those in real life either so who's to say that R* won't use them in a period piece. when it comes to vehicles i'm gonna agree with one of the posters who said that car enthusiasts would actually welcome a wider variety of classic cars rather than the newest models. 

 

you keep drawing this conclusion that a GTA game set in the 80s would have to feel like Vice City but that's not the case. R* could cover completely different topics in a completely different setting and the only thing these two games would have in common would be historical time period

Edited August 22, 2019 by Eternal Moonshine

[Emmi]

@Eternal Moonshine Thank you for this post! Couldn't agree more. Social media and smartphones, yikes!!! I'll not miss it!

[Matsen]

3 minutes ago, HOW'S ANNIE? said:

I've never understood this sentiment at all. There are plenty of other US cities that are ripe for a GTA game; Boston, Chicago, Dallas, Washington, Detroit. The GTA fanbase always seems to be against any originality on Rockstar's part.

 

Plus, to be a tad pedantic; since GTA 1 we've had London and GTA 2's Anywhere City. Do I see them ever coming back? Fat chance in hell, but we have had other locations before.

We might be getting GTA set in the future in Anywhere City for all we know. Nah I'm joking. Yeah Boston, Chicago, Detroit... but the thing is I don't think people are against doing anything than already existing locations within the GTA games. Its just people want the original locations redone first. I think.

[squeezx]

Whatever Rockstar’s next game is it seems they’re hiring for “Develop assets optimized for current and next-generation consoles.”

https://www.google.com/search?q=rockstar+games+jobs&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&hl=en-us&client=safari#fpstate=tldetail&htichips=date_posted:3days&htidocid=PZT78GmGKn15PHY1AAAAAA%3D%3D&htiq=rockstar games jobs&htischips=date_posted;3days&htivrt=jobs

[Secura]

22 minutes ago, squeezx said:

Yes exceptional shows but not in the same league as period piece crime epics such as The Godfather, Goodfellas and Casino.

Fundamentally disagree, Breaking Bad is better than any FFC or Scorsese film, they're good, much less complex and interesting though.

 

23 minutes ago, Eternal Moonshine said:

we had all this stuff in GTA V. everything that was considered modern at the time, will still be modern when GTA VI is released. the internet could be replaced by newspapers and magazines. it wouldn't change anything gameplay wise.

Literally would, the Internet is an interactive and responsive medium, old style media is literally dying because it isn't. This isn't even personal preference, also the above is just wrong, there will have been a decade that spans the time between GTA V and GTA VI, and as previously mentioned, there is nothing whatsoever that exists in the 1980's that isn't accessible to a greater or larger degree today. 

[Eternal Moonshine]

if you're that into modern stuff then maybe you should check out Watch Dogs which focuses purely on all these modern day annoyances such as the internet, smartphones and social media. GTA as a franchise was never focused on the aspect of modern technology. it's a crime simulator and as i said before, crime is not a modern invention

[Americana]

Well... Mafia 2, set primarily in 1950's, was supposed to have everything Grand Theft Auto IV had - (even more, like newspapers - which, sadly, were cut from the game, along with many other things) - car customization was there, races and public transport were supposed to be a part of the game - also buying houses and vehicles - no need for an internet to do that. What's more, player had a phone, which was used in every single mission - but it was a stationary one.

 

So, 1950's didn't limit the developers, so why would 1980's?

 

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Edited August 22, 2019 by Ronald Reagan

[EVOLUT7ON]

Do you know how R* could kill two rabbits at once?

Making the Story mode in old-time period, while Multiplayer in modern days:
People could enjoy the story mode and it's atmosphere, while Online content can be independent and not focused on the past. R* could add map expansions, businesses, modern vehicles and write a new story.

Would you like that?
 

[Matsen]

12 minutes ago, Finite said:

Literally would, the Internet is an interactive and responsive medium, old style media is literally dying because it isn't. This isn't even personal preference, also the above is just wrong, there will have been a decade that spans the time between GTA V and GTA VI, and as previously mentioned, there is nothing whatsoever that exists in the 1980's that isn't accessible to a greater or larger degree today. 

You don't seem to understand whats all about the period piece GTA. It's not a cosmetic thing that people want. As I understand hardcore GTA fans want grounded in reality, mature crime drama with compelling story line. It's very hard to make a game like GTA set today check all these boxes without being a bit of a joke. GTA has a potential to go further than "this silly game where you shoot people and steal cars". Take a look at a 2003 Italian Job. If we were to remade that into the GTA game it would be impossible. There would be no gameplay. How do you get away with not shooting anyone in a GTA game? I will copy my previous post to make a point.

 

"In my mind 80's can tell even wider array of stories. Just let's imagine for a moment we play mission in GTA VI set during the 80's in VC. You control a protection racket and one of the shops stopped paying so you gotta send them a message. You drive there park your 1970 Firebird around the back door. You take your Ingram Mac-10 from your trunk get inside and start spraying all over the shop. In a modern setting this whole situation would look totally different, possible even stupid and childish. But in a 80's settings its somehow plausible."

 

You see what I mean? When you put that in a modern game how does it look like to you?

 

[Americana]

What's more, I've always believed Grand Theft Auto series is supposed to be set in the past. Grand Theft Auto V changed that perspective, when I've learnt that every main Grand Theft Auto is set in contemporary settings. 

 

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Edited August 22, 2019 by Ronald Reagan

[sauron246]

if i had to give a guess to what rockstars next generation projects are would say gta 6 being certain and an la noire sequel i would say bully 2 would be cross gen 

[GRANDHEIST]

Older cars keep coming as VI is in full production

[Matsen]

6 minutes ago, GRANDHEIST said:

Older cars keep coming as VI is in full production

These new cars are 100% of better quality. Maybe they're assets from the next game. If we look at overall quality its like night and day. Just take a look at the Gauntlet Classic interior.

[deadasdisco]

Thought I might make known, EDM duo 'GTA' have fully rebranded and changed name to 'Good Times Ahead'. I have a feeling it's because of a possible cease and desist from Take Two. I can't confirm tho, I don't know there management or surrounding circle at the moment.  Majorly sucks tho. 

[B_E_N_1992]

19 minutes ago, GRANDHEIST said:

Older cars keep coming as VI is in full production

80”s setting confirmed. Good.

[Emmi]

2 minutes ago, deadasdisco said:

Thought I might make known, EDM duo 'GTA' have fully rebranded and changed name to 'Good Times Ahead'. I have a feeling it's because of a possible cease and desist from Take Two. I can't confirm tho, I don't know there management or surrounding circle at the moment.  Majorly sucks tho. 

What are you talking about, sorry ... please explain more???

[Uncoupledspy]

Rockstar games are teasing their fans with these new cars of GTA VI and most of them don't even know it

[Matsen]

Just now, B_E_N_1992 said:

80”s setting confirmed. Good.

I wouldn't go as far as saying its confirmed. If they continue this trend then maybe we're onto something, but for now... eh we'll see.

[Emmi]

20 minutes ago, GRANDHEIST said:

Older cars keep coming as VI is in full production

Oh man, this is the type of cars I love in a GTA game ... 70's, 80's and 90's cars ... gimme! Not this modern day sh*t.

It's sad though that they add all these amazing 80's cars to GTA Online now which could otherwise potentially be all new cars, appearing for the very first time in GTA VI.

But nonetheless I'm sure that they will be massively improved in regards to detail and interior and of course physics! for GTA VI.

[deadasdisco]

5 minutes ago, Emmi said:

What are you talking about, sorry ... please explain more???

GTA which are an EDM dj duo, have rebranded and renamed to 'Good Times Ahead'. It could equally be a new marketing strategy but I have a feeling Take Two were involved in it somehow. Probably posted in the wrong thread but oh well. Just wanted to make it known haha. 

Edited August 22, 2019 by deadasdisco