Origins of how the gangs started and spread throughout Los Santos, San Andreas

[Awakendlurk]

I see some of the most far out answers to this topic. It's really interesting to me u some of the feedback that is generated on this statement. I would love to get everyone's opinion on what they believe is true and correct answers. For starters all gangs sets are bigger than what u guys think. Take it from me some one who grew up in the real life sets of Idlewood aka Inglewood. Please if u can, enlighten me on 1. Who was first, Varrio Los Aztecas or was it the Los Santos Vagos. 2.Which Ballas set was first,where did it start, and which do u guys think is the biggest. 3. What is the exact real life gang Grove St Families is based on. 4. What does Grove St. Families stand for. Off top one thing I can enlighten u guys with my friends is that Willowfield aka Willowbrook is actually an unincorporated city of Los Santos but to the residents it is considered Ganton. Can't wait to hear everyone's input on this.

[LongLiveJojo]

I believe the Families was the biggest gang at one point, because Sweet and CJ talk about bringing the Families "back" (this includes Temple Drive Families, Sevile Boulevard Families and Grove Street Families). However Ballas came along and recruited a lot of members, some being part of the families and quickly rose to the top. Vagos came along afterwards because the influx of Mexican immigrants happend somewhere in the 90's same goes to Aztecas. Once this has happend the Families where targetted by big gangs like the Ballas and decided to put an end to Grove Street Families, they ended up killing Beverly Johnson and then the events of San Andreas occured.

 

However don't take this as fact. It's just what I think happend and how the gangs came about.

[Awakendlurk]

Thanks for that feed back bro. I'm just waiting on more replies but I'm going to break it down. For example, Los Santos Vagos vs Varrio Los Aztecas. By San Andreas being a replica of California I can tell u that the Vagos gang was first before the Aztecas. The Vagos also been around since the early 1900's the Aztecas came more in the 70's and 80's. Though they are both Surenos gangs the Vagos in the hills are based off Frog Town and the reason they sport yellow is the Vagos like the Frog Towns don't really hit up the 13. The Aztecas on the other hand rock the color more closer to the traditional south sider color. The Aztecas are based on the Lennox 13 gang which does hit up the 13. This is why the two Los Santos sureno gangs wear different clothes. The Vagos are way older than the Aztecas. The Vagos also from what I think are based off White Fence in southern Los Felis and the Vattio Nuevo Estrada gang in the projects northern part of Los Felis. The East Beach Vagos is based on the Long Beach Longos gang. Just a little insight for starters. I'll explain the Ballas(Crips), the Families(Bloods), and the Groves(Pirus) a little bit later. Trying to see if I can get some more interesting replies on this.

Edited July 23, 2017 by Awakendlurk

[LongLiveJojo]

Thanks for that feed back bro. I'm just waiting on more replies but I'm going to break it down. For example, Los Santos Vagos vs Varrio Los Aztecas. By San Andreas being a replica of California I can tell u that the Vagos gang was first before the Aztecas. The Vagos also been around since the early 1900's the Aztecas came more in the 70's and 80's. Though they are both Surenos gangs the Vagos in the hills are based off Frog Town and the reason they sport yellow is the Vagos like the Frog Towns don't really hit up the 13. The Aztecas on the other hand rock the color more closer to the traditional south sider color. The Aztecas are based on the Lennox 13 gang which does hit up the 13. This is why the two Los Santos sureno gangs wear different clothes. The Vagos are way older than the Aztecas. The Vagos also from what I think are based off White Fence in southern Los Felis and the Vattio Nuevo Estrada gang in the projects northern part of Los Felis. The East Beach Vagos is based on the Long Beach Longos gang. Just a little insight for starters. I'll explain the Ballas(Crips), the Families(Bloods), and the Groves(Pirus) a little bit later. Trying to see if I can get some more interesting replies on this.

I'm just wondering if San Fierro Rifa is a Norteños clique because Varrioz and the Rifa aren't known to each other, except Cesar knows about the existence of the Rifa.

 

Also Norteños are allocated in the north, and San Fierro Rifa is a city in the north. I could be wrong.

[Awakendlurk]

Absolutely right bro. San Fierro aka San Fransisco is the city of northern San Andreas aka California. Yeah man, u right the San Fierro Rifa is The Nortenos. Not too familiar with the north as it is in real life but I do know of a gang called Mission 14 in which I do know SFR is based off them due to how they're neighborhood looks compared to how San Fierro looks. Check them out. Look at mission rd and then compare it to the streets of San Fierro.

[GroveStreetOG92]

Thanks for that feed back bro. I'm just waiting on more replies but I'm going to break it down. For example, Los Santos Vagos vs Varrio Los Aztecas. By San Andreas being a replica of California I can tell u that the Vagos gang was first before the Aztecas. The Vagos also been around since the early 1900's the Aztecas came more in the 70's and 80's. Though they are both Surenos gangs the Vagos in the hills are based off Frog Town and the reason they sport yellow is the Vagos like the Frog Towns don't really hit up the 13. The Aztecas on the other hand rock the color more closer to the traditional south sider color. The Aztecas are based on the Lennox 13 gang which does hit up the 13. This is why the two Los Santos sureno gangs wear different clothes. The Vagos are way older than the Aztecas. The Vagos also from what I think are based off White Fence in southern Los Felis and the Vattio Nuevo Estrada gang in the projects northern part of Los Felis. The East Beach Vagos is based on the Long Beach Longos gang. Just a little insight for starters. I'll explain the Ballas(Crips), the Families(Bloods), and the Groves(Pirus) a little bit later. Trying to see if I can get some more interesting replies on this.

Vagos are a mixed of Dog Town,East L.A. Dukes,Flats and Longos and Florence.

 

Varrio Los Aztecas=Compton Varrio sets like T-Flats,70s,155,Largo,Alondra.

 

Ballas= Rollin 60s,30s,100s,School Yard,Front Hood,Eight Treys and Atlantic Dr.

 

Families=Piru Street,Inglewood,Bounty Hunters,Black P Stones,Hoover Street.

 

I believe Vagos are the oldest of them all. But the biggest are Front Yard Ballas. Kilo Tray and Rollin Heights originated around the same time right next door to each other the Trays in Glen Park and Rollins in Jefferson that's why you see these 2 sharing 2 turfs on the East Side of Los Santos these 2 are very tight but only in East Los Santos. And Also Aztecas I believe been around since the 1950s their Neighborhood is historical like the Vagos. Idk how Vagos vs Aztecas started but I've seen some things that also showed me that Aztecas rival with Kilo Tray Ballas also right next door in Williowfield. Idk how Vagos vs Aztecas is a rival when these 2 don't even have turf next to eachother or even close.

Edited August 1, 2017 by GroveStreetOG92

[Awakendlurk]

Las Colinas Vagos is frog town. Look up frog town on the gang map and you will see that even the shape of their neighborhood is exactly the same. Trust my word. Take it from someone who is born and raised in California and been in mostly all of the gang areas. U gotta look at even the sets that San Andreas provided u are really bigger than they appear. For example u can take over 6 turfs in Idlewood but in reality just me being from Inglewood it really consists of 7. I could see how they tried to keep it close to home as possible. Born and raised in Inglewood. I know it like the back of my hand, from north Inglewood to The Bottoms, from south Inglewood to IngleWatts. Me just having knowledge on the Wood and surrounding areas I know that the brown apartments by the freeway including the white ones with the red doors is the Neighborhood Groves. Groves is Pirus, Families is Bloods Ballas is Crips. The houses in Idlewood is the Idlewood Family Gang. The area of Reece's barber shop and the small brown apartment complex across the street from the gas station is the Legend Ballas Gang. Where the hotel is and the apartment right next to the alley is the Raymond Avenue Ballas. Next to them in the white housing projects, in the units west of the street that splits the housing projects in two is the Crenshaw Mafia Families, on the other side is the Avenue Grove Gang. Even when u go to the El corona part that is right next to Idlewood, the strip of houses that's next to the liquor store bomb shop and alley is the Idlewood 13. El Corona ain't got nothing to do with Compton Varrios but u can find the Lennox's right next to the lax airport and them mf's turnt up just like VLA(Varrio Lennox Area). The VLA is right next to the LSX airport. That copy pasted post is slightly incorrect. Hoover street for the grove street families? Lmao. Where did they get that from. GSF don't got nothing to do with Hoover Street. Hoover street is whole nother thing.

[GroveStreetOG92]

I can dig that homeboy you might be accurate when it comes to the ING. Btw I'm from Sacramento homeboy I use to live in L.A. I went to Belmont Highschool my mom use to live in ING right off W IMPERIAL and the SHAW in Imperial Village I was locked up in Central Juvie in East L.A. and all that homie don't come at me like you're the only nigga in the world from Cali homeboy. Like I said you might be right about the ING and all but as far as them Aztecas in El Corona them niggas are Compton Varrio sets if Im not mistaken even tho their Housing Project is based on Dana Strand in Wilmington so they probably aren't either tbh I think they are based on Wilmas 13. Grove St Families are a mix of Piru,Swans,Stones and Hoovas Grove bang Gz,Locz and throw up Bz. Now Las Colinas Vagos I believe you are right about them being VFTR.

Edited August 1, 2017 by GroveStreetOG92

[GroveStreetOG92]

Ay bro I see what you're talkin about homeboy that do look like Varrio Lennox hood next to the airport on Citas it do

[GroveStreetOG92]

Ay man I told you the Vagos were a mixed of East L.A. Dukes and Flats well the ones in Los Flores are. Go look up Boyle Heights that's what Los Flores is based on. For the longest I know they were the Dukes and Flats and those projects are the Hazards.

[Awakendlurk]

Hahaha lol. Never tried to give the impression that im the only nigga from Cali lol. All I'm saying is I got a lot of street gang knowledge as u do too from living on both sides of the region. U get to see so cal and north cal, but its just like at first u didn't see where I was coming from about them Lennox boys but if u actually look at the since of it u can see what I mean. I think u right about them LA Dukes though. As far as the projects in Los Flores I just thought it was the Estrada Courts considering they got those path way out side stairs like the ones they got in Los Flores. Grove St Families aka Piru St Bloods can't be Hoovers though bro. Hoovers is out of the West Side Crips faction created in the late 60's early 70's. That's a whole nother story. See rock star stay mixing things up and making some what a joke of things. For example glen park as we know it is echo park but by them putting GSF and Ballas sets in it that makes it the west side of south central LA almost like they made it West Adams and west LA, west LA being the skate park and the Kilo Trays aka West LA Trays. I don't know everything and I'm not the only nigga from Cali but ijs a lot of sh*t I do know, not just Inglewood either. I grew up all around. My friends always jk with me saying "dam nigga, yo ass been everywhere." I'm going to see about them LA Dukes though. Thanks for that info.

Edited August 2, 2017 by Awakendlurk

[GroveStreetOG92]

Fasho homie I wasn't getting mad or anything but yeah I do see what you're talkin about with them Lennox Vatos. You're right about Frog Town too. Lol I said a mix of Hoova bro hahaha only because Grove say Loc and Grove is similar to Groove. Grove St definitely looks like Piru Street tho but it also resembles the Jungles too to me with that one way in and out street. In Williowfield those Front Yard Ballas in the 6th Street Plaza are the 7th Street Watts Crips and next door to them are the Rollin Heights Ballas who are the Neighborhood Watts Crips I know that for a fact. And Im not taken any credit from you I see you do know your sh*t homeboy.

Edited August 1, 2017 by GroveStreetOG92

[Awakendlurk]

Righteous bro. That make since. That could be the 7 Street Watts Crips by the plaza in willowfield but that's that dam rockstar games flipping and twisting sh*t again. For example look at Emmit. He from Willowfield but he Grove street though. My guess is over time the Ganton Ballas aka Willowfield Ballas aka Compton Crips started taking over where I think Emmit is from. Considering he been an OG in that part of Willowfield "for over 30 years"(in Emmits voice) and he Grove Street down the way. I believe that area is the 135 Pirus even though rockstar be joking around and making the Kenneth Hahn plaza right there in an area that is supposed to be SBF turf. They be f*cking with us bro like putting the Imperial courts north of the Jordan Downs when they know the Courts is on imperial (S) and the Downs is on 103rd(N). Then too, they put Willowfield aka Willowbrook South of Ganton aka Compton. We both know that Willowbrook is like the acting border city between Watts and Compton. They should've just made Willowfield where Ganton is at and put Ganton south of Willowfield but that's rockstar for u. See to me on the other side of Willowfield aka Ganton

where the projects is at, considering the name of the click is Front Yard Ballas. To me that's the Front Hood Compton Crips aka Front Yard Ganton Ballaz. They are close to Grove Street which is based off the original turf of Piru which is the Compton West Side Pirus. Every hood has its most hated or disliked enemy usually right next door, hence the Front Hood Compton Crips and the West Side Pirus are right next to each other and the Front Hoods are located in border line Compton and Willowbrook. The 1tray5 Pirus is right there too in the mix. This sh*t is a trip how they did that when u really think about it. U got the West Side Groves, the East Side 135 Groves, and the West Side Front Hood Ballas. Ganton/Willowfield is all Ganton. Aye trip this. When u go over to glen park potentially the Bahamas apts and all the buildings attached to it, to me it's like that right there is the Jungles. In front of it on the other side of the park, one half is the City Stones and the other half of the street including the strip of houses and that car dealership is the Neighborhood Blood 20's hence the 20's are right next to the City Stones and they stretch from West Adams to Jefferson Park. Imo.

Edited August 2, 2017 by Awakendlurk

[GroveStreetOG92]

I'm still on that Lennox 13 sh*t bro I honestly they you're right because the location is too mf accurate but go look up Wilmas 13 they based in Wilmington which the Projects in El Corona are based on Dana Strands which are occupied by ES Wilmas 13 I think they share they hood with a Piru or Blood gang can't remember and the WS Wilmas 13 are right next to ES Wilmas 13 and right above them are NS Wilmas 13 just like how VLA is in the Projects and VLA are on the dead end street where Cease live and VLA is in Little Mexico north above El Corona where the 2 VLA turfs are lol Rock* knee EXACTLY wtf they were doing them mfs are genius asf for that sh*t lmao they hella twisted sh*t up bro

I'm about to get on this mf now. You on Ps2,Ps3, or Android? And bro what about Temple? To me that area is the Jungles tbh I'm trippin off how and when did Temple Drive Ballas originate? They a fraction off Front Yard Ballas? I know in Santa Maria Beach they share a hood with Front Yard Ballas. You ever notice Kilo Tray Ballas and Rollin Heights Ballas share 2 hoods on the ES?

[GroveStreetOG92]

In Las Colinas on the NW side them Vagos close to Glen Park and Jefferson I think they are based on Varrio Avenues in Glassell Park/Cypress Park

[Awakendlurk]

Aye u know what I was thinking the same thing. Especially after I seen them Avenues on gang land. Its like u said before it's like a mixture. If u look at it one way u can see it's the avenues if u look at it another way u can see the Frog Towns. Even when u look at them Vagos boys right above Jefferson/Glen park, that Vagos area that's a street at first but then turns into the freeway and the strip of houses at the bottom of that, them Vagos to me is the WS18St. The 18's next to the BPS City Stones and the NHB 20's.

[GroveStreetOG92]

Hell yeah you make hella sense bro. Yes it still Frog Town too lmao no doubt about that it's just hella crazy how they mixed and flipped sh*t. What system you on bro?

[lil weasel]

Use the PM service if you want to have a conversion