GTA Online General Chat

[ten-a-penny]

I have two questions for y'all:

1. Does anybody knows (or have a list of) all the vehicles in this game that have a bulletproof back? Like the Zentorno, Tyrant, etc. Cars that naturally doesn't have a bulletproof back, but can receive one in LSC (like the OG Jester) also work. 

2. This one's SP-related, but it kinda affect Online as well: does the SP Save Editor also include the post-Ill Gotten Gains II vehicles, like cars? Because I wanna try several of the newly added cars but don't want to waste my hard-earned cash buying useless sh*te. I wanna test them in Single Player first, see what customization they have & how they perform. Right now my best shot is trying them in races, but they're LSC Mods Free stock (obviously). Does the Hazard save editor also include the new stuff?

[Kushology]

1 hour ago, DentureDynamite said:

^^ Makes Rockstar look pretty sad... as it should.

The possibilities of FiveM alone makes Rockstar look bad.. lol

[DentureDynamite]

^^ Truth.

 

Rockstar wouldn't approve of any of it, because... fun, and makes good sense. lol

 

And, naturally, they'd also want to monetize every micron of it, drip-fed stretched through 10 years if they ever made such unthinkable improvements to the game.

 

Anywho, nice work, FiveM! Kudos.

Edited October 14, 2019 by DentureDynamite

[Kushology]

3 minutes ago, DentureDynamite said:

And, naturally, they'd also want to monetize every micron of it, drip-fed stretched through 10 years if they ever made such unthinkable improvements to the game.

 

For a while, they did. Didn't they go after FiveM creators and servers for a bit? That's like going after cheaters, never ending war.

[DentureDynamite]

^^ Yeah, in my mind the difference though is that FiveM is doing something constructive and creative with their time.

 

Though admittedly, cheaters can sometimes be entertaining and even friendly. 8-O

Edited October 14, 2019 by DentureDynamite

[Cahill--EFC]

We have bad news for free roam on GTAO,  the kid will be fleeing back after there Fortsh*te as been closed down.

 

The Fortnight map been wiped  out by a Black Hole  LOL

 

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/newsbeat-50038597

 

 

[Kushology]

2 hours ago, ferguson99 said:

The Fortnight map been wiped  out by a Black Hole  LOL

 

Is this legit? The game's done? Wut..

 

(I don't play Fortnite)

[MaddenedGhost]

^you mean the people that were already ruining the fun in GTA before Fortnite was even a thing.

Also it's a matter of time before the game is back up so it shouldn't be a problem.

1 minute ago, Kushology said:

 

Is this legit? The game's done? Wut..

 

(I don't play Fortnite)

I play Fortnite (you can sue me now )

And yesterday there was a game event that wiped out the entire map (things that Rockstar should probably learn from) and the game is receiving a new map tomorrow or later today as part of the new season.

3 hours ago, ten-a-penny said:

I have two questions for y'all:

1. Does anybody knows (or have a list of) all the vehicles in this game that have a bulletproof back? Like the Zentorno, Tyrant, etc. Cars that naturally doesn't have a bulletproof back, but can receive one in LSC (like the OG Jester) also work. 

2. This one's SP-related, but it kinda affect Online as well: does the SP Save Editor also include the post-Ill Gotten Gains II vehicles, like cars? Because I wanna try several of the newly added cars but don't want to waste my hard-earned cash buying useless sh*te. I wanna test them in Single Player first, see what customization they have & how they perform. Right now my best shot is trying them in races, but they're LSC Mods Free stock (obviously). Does the Hazard save editor also include the new stuff?

I can't help much with the first question as I only know about the Zentorno, but with the save editor one, you can spawn all vehicles except ones that came with the Nightclub, Arena and Casino DLCs, they show up and instantly disappear before you can even get in them.

(I think the Nightclub is one of them but I am sure about the Arena and the Casino, you can't spawn those, everything else should work just fine)

[Cahill--EFC]

38 minutes ago, Kushology said:

 

Is this legit? The game's done? Wut..

 

(I don't play Fortnite)

Click the link 

[kcole4001]

8 hours ago, DentureDynamite said:

^^ Makes Rockstar look pretty sad... as it should.

As much as I agree, and I'm sure this is common knowledge to you all (i really don't follow gaming news/politics/soap opera), but I watched a vid about how a certain game company shafted it's customers repeatedly and brutally, and it kinda makes R* look like choirboys.

No names, but the company persisted in it's evil ways despite all incoming public and industry fallout, so to speak. 

[gtafan26]

That was interesting,  my MKII got stuck to the map, and there was nothing I could do to get unstuck, getting in a personal AC got me stuck in an endless loading screen exiting my hangar.

[Kushology]

3 hours ago, Maddened_Ghost said:

And yesterday there was a game event that wiped out the entire map (things that Rockstar should probably learn from) and the game is receiving a new map tomorrow or later today as part of the new season.

 

Ah. I know they do events at end of seasons, that's just.. Different.

[Yellow Dog with Cone]

Epic Games wipes out their game with a black hole, becoming an internet sensation in the process, not to mention previous events too.

 

Meanwhile, we can't even get Halloween weather on Halloween in this game.

[PetrolCB]

5 minutes ago, YELLOW DOG WITH CONE said:

Meanwhile, we can't even get Halloween weather on Halloween in this game.

I’m still holding out hope for that weather and a total blackout all over the map for like, a few days or a week. 

[Kushology]

5 hours ago, PetrolCB said:

I’m still holding out hope for that weather and a total blackout all over the map for like, a few days or a week. 

I have wanted this since Heists came out..

 

On PC, it was cool as f*ck to do purge mode with EMP and thunderstorms.

[Yellow Dog with Cone]

I just want for the map to actually change and evolve. GTAO is supposed to be set on the current day, we literally have flying bikes, cars and laser weapons, yet aside from the addition of the Diamond Casino, the rest of the map is still stuck on 2013.

 

The map hasn't even changed to reflect that the game is now set way after Story Mode. Where is the Cargo Plane wreck under the Alamo Sea from "Minor Turbulence"? Why Lester's garment factory isn't run down, even when it was set on fire during "The Bureau Raid"? Why are the trailers at Stab City and Ortega's trailer and the O'Neill's ranch intact if they were all destroyed in "Friends Reunited" and "Mr. Phillips" respectively?

 

Even some small changes like the ones mentioned above could help to signal the passage of time.

 

Just my $0.02.

[kcole4001]

I had to upgrade my vid card for RDR2 and it arrived today!

GTA should run pretty smooth now: going from an R9 270 2gb to an RX580 8gb.

[RetroStyle]

2 hours ago, YELLOW DOG WITH CONE said:

I just want for the map to actually change and evolve. GTAO is supposed to be set on the current day, we literally have flying bikes, cars and laser weapons, yet aside from the addition of the Diamond Casino, the rest of the map is still stuck on 2013.

 

The map hasn't even changed to reflect that the game is now set way after Story Mode. Where is the Cargo Plane wreck under the Alamo Sea from "Minor Turbulence"? Why Lester's garment factory isn't run down, even when it was set on fire during "The Bureau Raid"? Why are the trailers at Stab City and Ortega's trailer and the O'Neill's ranch intact if they were all destroyed in "Friends Reunited" and "Mr. Phillips" respectively?

 

Even some small changes like the ones mentioned above could help to signal the passage of time.

 

Just my $0.02.

Yeah small changes would be nice,and a map expansion would be even nicer.

[J-Scott-D]

On 10/14/2019 at 9:08 AM, YELLOW DOG WITH CONE said:

FiveM > GTAO

 

 

I've been thinking about this video and was wondering what it would cost to purchase a PC strong enough to run this. 

 

Don't laugh, but I'm still using a Windows Vista PC from 2007. It can't even run Facebook, lol.

 

Also...what does it cost to have access to the FiveM server?

[Up2NoGood45]

1 hour ago, RetroStyle said:

Yeah small changes would be nice,and a map expansion would be even nicer.

Mountain cabins would be fun!

[DentureDynamite]

13 hours ago, YELLOW DOG WITH CONE said:

Epic Games wipes out their game with a black hole, becoming an internet sensation in the process, not to mention previous events too.

 

Meanwhile, we can't even get Halloween weather on Halloween in this game.

Yeah, go figure--we get snow around Christmas, so why not the special weather for Halloween?

 

That said, I've noticed some subtle changes in freeroam that I've never seen in GTA Online since I began playing in the fall of 2014. Namely:

 

Four NPCs (from Strawberry) hunting me down in vehicles long after I had aggro'd them. I was way out of their neighborhood (on top of the hospital roof) when they tried attacking me.

 

Like I say, this went way beyond the typical Strawberry aggro behavior; they actually hunted me down, finding my obscure location.

 

I would love to see more stuff like this in-game, especially things like the Merryweather Mercs chasing you into tunnels, and in the air, on water, etc. Some random thieves (kind of like the mugger, but random) who steal your money would mix things up nicely too.

Edited October 15, 2019 by DentureDynamite

[Geisterfaust]

1 hour ago, J-Scott-D said:

I've been thinking about this video and was wondering what it would cost to purchase a PC strong enough to run this. 

 

Don't laugh, but I'm still using a Windows Vista PC from 2007. It can't even run Facebook, lol.

 

Also...what does it cost to have access to the FiveM server?

Considering your location is US, that's not going to cost a lot. You can get the quotes yourself, but I may help with the configuration, if you're building new:

• CPU and motherboard wise I would recommend Intel 8600 processor or Ryzen 2700x and upper for AMD. Motherboards are quite different and you should check out the reviews, but don't go for the cheapest option. I assume, you're not going to overclock so that's not very important;
• RAM you're good at 16GB, that's a sweet spot today. 8 is a bit low, 32 is overkill for most users and not worth investing;
• GPU, that's the most interesting option, as always. You will be okay starting from RX 590 (80) for AMD and GTX 1660 Ti/ GTX 1070 ranged by release date and power consumption. If you're going to focus on gaming with more eye candy, you can go up to Radeon 5700 XT from AMD or 1080 Ti/ 2080 from Nvidia, anything over that is serious overkill;
• PSU, do not go over 850W. 750 is absolutely normal too, but don't cheap out and go for gold rating instead of watts (750W Gold > 1000W Bronze), while focusing on noise too since you don't want to get turbine in your PC. Corsair RX series is good, a lot of EVGA products are good too;
• SSD or NVME drive for the system and GTA will help, so treat yourself with min. 250GB, more will be better but you can always buy another one and SSD is crucial in 2019, don't cheap out and don't go for HDD instead;

 

You should watch test videos of GTA performance of your desired build on the Youtube, that helps a lot. If you like, I can try to select some parts for you on PC part picker.

 

If you're going used, anything from 4790k paired with 16GB RAM is worth getting IF the price is right, but keep in mind that with newer parts you're getting warranty, peace of mind and more upgrade possibilities. You can also try to score used 8700k and higher spec board used, while getting GPU new. A lot of options, that will depend on your budget.

 

For GTA only you can get a weaker machine, but I won't advise you to do so, since you will want to play other games and will use it for other stuff. Stay away from Intel lower than 4th generation even for a good price, that's dead end with slower RAM and less options like NVME drives.

[DentureDynamite]

^^ If money is tight, I can highly recommend the Dell XPS 8700 (plus good graphics card) if you're looking for something to run GTA Online decently; only catch is you may need a better power supply as well.

 

But those systems are reliable, compact, very inexpensive for what you get, usually come loaded with RAM and some with SSDs by default:

 

https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p2380057.m570.l1313.TR11.TRC1.A0.H0.Xdell+xps+8700.TRS0&_nkw=dell+xps+8700&_sacat=0

Edited October 15, 2019 by DentureDynamite

[ten-a-penny]

6 hours ago, YELLOW DOG WITH CONE said:

I just want for the map to actually change and evolve. GTAO is supposed to be set on the current day, we literally have flying bikes, cars and laser weapons, yet aside from the addition of the Diamond Casino, the rest of the map is still stuck on 2013.

 

The map hasn't even changed to reflect that the game is now set way after Story Mode. Where is the Cargo Plane wreck under the Alamo Sea from "Minor Turbulence"? Why Lester's garment factory isn't run down, even when it was set on fire during "The Bureau Raid"? Why are the trailers at Stab City and Ortega's trailer and the O'Neill's ranch intact if they were all destroyed in "Friends Reunited" and "Mr. Phillips" respectively?

 

Even some small changes like the ones mentioned above could help to signal the passage of time.

 

Just my $0.02.

The entire damn map needs to be rebuilt from f*cking scratch. Mountains mountains mountains. Everything past Vinewood is nothing but giant hills and small mountainsides. Go further up and you'll find a sad excuse for a natural park that calls itself a desert (despite the fact that there was no desert in the south of GTA:SA if you wanna strictly compare). Then for the upper half ("GrAnD" Senora "DeSeRt" and up), half the place is occupied by a sh*tty lake, the other half is the largest mountain on f*ckin' GTA Earth. WTF's Mt. Chilliad doing there? That mountain is on the western side of GTA:SA, and this is a mountain so there's no way it "changed spots". Yes, technically it's on the southern 'border' of SA. No, the thing is all the way to the west. LS is on the east. Maybe if you put the map in a horizontal position, then it make sense. But it's not. That'll change the LS map and turn it into something inaccurate, so that doesn't count either.

 

WTF was F* drinking, snorting & smoking when they designed the map? SooooOOOOOooooo much wasted space.

[Arrows to Athens]

2 minutes ago, ten-a-penny said:

The entire damn map needs to be rebuilt from f*cking scratch. Mountains mountains mountains. Everything past Vinewood is nothing but giant hills and small mountainsides. Go further up and you'll find a sad excuse for a natural park that calls itself a desert (despite the fact that there was no desert in the south of GTA:SA if you wanna strictly compare). Then for the upper half ("GrAnD" Senora "DeSeRt" and up), half the place is occupied by a sh*tty lake, the other half is the largest mountain on f*ckin' GTA Earth. WTF's Mt. Chilliad doing there? That mountain is on the western side of GTA:SA, and this is a mountain so there's no way it "changed spots". Yes, technically it's on the southern 'border' of SA. No, the thing is all the way to the west. LS is on the east. Maybe if you put the map in a horizontal position, then it make sense. But it's not. That'll change the LS map and turn it into something inaccurate, so that doesn't count either.

 

WTF was F* drinking, snorting & smoking when they designed the map? SooooOOOOOooooo much wasted space.

In some ways, I feel like Dumbstar got quite lazy with this game. Some aspects of this game are lazily done and just sloppy, not well thought out or well-executed. 

 

They really tried with IV, but I can't say the same with this game.

[ten-a-penny]

32 minutes ago, Arrows to Athens said:

In some ways, I feel like Dumbstar got quite lazy with this game. Some aspects of this game are lazily done and just sloppy, not well thought out or well-executed. 

 

They really tried with IV, but I can't say the same with this game.

Ya. GTA4 & GTAV are nowhere close to GTA:SA and RDR2. While it makes sense for the latter (game came out the past year while GTA4 & 5 came in 2008 & 2013>2014>2015, respectively), it makes absolutely NO SENSE with the former...... and I don't even like SA all that much. The driving is perfect, the bike controls are perfect, the helicopter handling is perfect the flight system is perfect. Even the PHYSICS were awesome (I actually find GTA:IV's physics to be a bit..... boring). Add the cover system and a mashup of GTA:IV+V's shooting mechanics. Done. Best GTA game ever in terms of mechanics. Add Bully's "wanted" system (cone of vision to be exact) and it's all set. RDR2 have this to a lesser extent (well, the Wild West version of all this obviously), but GTAV? Never. Whole game needs to be rebuilt from square zero, not just "one".

 

E:

Guess who I've found f*ckin' about in Broughtly's comments sections in a video?

 

Edited October 15, 2019 by ten-a-penny

[Wastelander (Suzuki)]

26 minutes ago, ten-a-penny said:

Ya. GTA4 & GTAV are nowhere close to GTA:SA and RDR2. While it makes sense for the latter (game came out the past year while GTA4 & 5 came in 2008 & 2013>2014>2015, respectively), it makes absolutely NO SENSE with the former...... and I don't even like SA all that much. The driving is perfect, the bike controls are perfect, the helicopter handling is perfect the flight system is perfect. Even the PHYSICS were awesome (I actually find GTA:IV's physics to be a bit..... boring). Add the cover system and a mashup of GTA:IV+V's shooting mechanics. Done. Best GTA game ever in terms of mechanics. Add Bully's "wanted" system (cone of vision to be exact) and it's all set. RDR2 have this to a lesser extent (well, the Wild West version of all this obviously), but GTAV? Never. Whole game needs to be rebuilt from square zero, not just "one".

GTAIV was the perfect building platform for GTAV. GTAV's story was heavily inspired Micheal Man's 1995 magnum opus HEAT, not only did the game's story fall short badly, compared to nearly every GTA I've played since the PS2 days (3, VC, VCS, LCS, IV), the possible saving graces that GTAIV's version of the game engine had (And are in fact still present in GTAV's code, Source: A lot of the early builds shown in Trailers still used a lot of that code and physics), All the had to do, was refine the driving physics (Basically just add anti-rollbars to the cars, they seemed to lack them in IV), alongside refinements to flying (This is something that requires an entirely new thread to debate tbh, one that most likely already exists), and dialing in the Gunplay and Cover Mechanics.........in fact, they had it done actually, it's name, was Max Payne 3, but instead of trying to build Gunplay off what Max Payne 3 had, they somehow, managed to f*ck up GTAIV's gunplay, which wasn't "Top of the line" to begin with, but was a lot more refined than what we have, and on top of the clunky aiming system that makes a Bob Semple Tank look quick and refined by comparison, we're still stuck with the same Cover system from 2008, a Cover System that has been BTFO'd by Ghost Recon Future Solider for a while now (Ubisoft somehow managed to f*ck that up later on as well, typical). 

So in other words, GTAV's weakest point being it's story, could have easily overcame it had they merely improved on GTAIV's base instead of dumbing it down for more "General" crowds, and had they focused on making the gunplay as close to the Iconic firefight of it's inspiration:

Ffs, even PAYDAY did a better job.......TWICE

[gtafan26]

2 hours ago, ten-a-penny said:

Ya. GTA4 & GTAV are nowhere close to GTA:SA and RDR2. While it makes sense for the latter (game came out the past year while GTA4 & 5 came in 2008 & 2013>2014>2015, respectively), it makes absolutely NO SENSE with the former...... and I don't even like SA all that much. The driving is perfect, the bike controls are perfect, the helicopter handling is perfect the flight system is perfect. Even the PHYSICS were awesome (I actually find GTA:IV's physics to be a bit..... boring). Add the cover system and a mashup of GTA:IV+V's shooting mechanics. Done. Best GTA game ever in terms of mechanics. Add Bully's "wanted" system (cone of vision to be exact) and it's all set. RDR2 have this to a lesser extent (well, the Wild West version of all this obviously), but GTAV? Never. Whole game needs to be rebuilt from square zero, not just "one".

 

E:

Guess who I've found f*ckin' about in Broughtly's comments sections in a video?

 

I agree with him and he makes a valid point, it has supercar pricing but its far from being a supercar,  its nice a car, and I have no regrets buying it, but its not worth the 1.2mil price tag, IMO of course.

[Yellow Dog with Cone]

2 hours ago, ten-a-penny said:

E:

Guess who I've found f*ckin' about in Broughtly's comments sections in a video?

 

[Yellow Dog with Cone]

@ten-a-penny @Wastelander (Suzuki) @Arrows to Athens

 

I think the thing that truly held back GTA V's potential was being developed for the previous generation of consoles first instead of the current one.

 

What I mean is that, in order to fit a bigger map than GTA IV, several things had to be simplified or outright removed, like the damage system or the AI.

 

What I never understood is why R* didn't brought these cut or neutered features back when they ported the game to current gen instead of adding a superflous first person mode that is akward to use.

 

If GTA VI do becomes a thing, I really hope it's a next gen game instead of R* trying to double dip with both this and the new gen, but we all know they will try to do just that.