Taha Sami Posted July 19, 2017 Share Posted July 19, 2017 How Forellis accepting ken rosenberg in 1992 as manager or something for their investment in Caligula's Palace despite he sided with their enemy Tommy Vercetti in 1986? Sorry about my bad English thanks in advance. Edit: i posted this thread early in this section but i don't know where it's goes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lil weasel Posted July 19, 2017 Share Posted July 19, 2017 He was considered "Neutral". iiCriminnaaL and Taha Sami 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taha Sami Posted July 20, 2017 Author Share Posted July 20, 2017 (edited) How he was "neutral" when he sided with their enemy Tommy Vercetti in 1986 and he also have hate them in gta vc when he say in keep your friends close mission: 《Tommy, I have a disagreement, I send them an angry letter. Maybe I pee in their mailbox. I don't start World War III. You know, maybe you should speak to my shrink...》and they hated him also in the beginning of the same mission when he say: 《Okay, but right now your Italian brothers are coming from up there to fit me with some cement shoes, and I...》? And he still like Tommy Days in gta SA? Thats simple. Edited July 20, 2017 by Taha Sami Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wingate167 Posted July 20, 2017 Share Posted July 20, 2017 Ken worked for Tommy Vercetti after Sonny Forrelli got killed in Grand Theft Auto: Vice City. If you watch some cut scenes especially when doing the Malibu missions, he had a cocaine habit that eventually landed him to Fort Carson Medical Center before the events of GTA: San Andreas. It's clear that Tommy saw Ken as a liability and cut him off from contact especially if you've seen the Introduction movie where he tries to call him. Salvatore saw Ken as someone to take the blame in case the casino investment with the Forellis, Sindaccos and Leone fell through. I think the Forellis saw Ken as a traitor and disowned him. Salvatore doesn't seem to have any trouble with Tommy Vercetti, Sonny getting killed probably helped the Leone family get back to power. After all, Tommy is in Florida and Salvatore is in Liberty City. Sonny_Black, iiCriminnaaL and Taha Sami 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lil weasel Posted July 20, 2017 Share Posted July 20, 2017 (edited) How he was "neutral"Here is all of Kens appearance, you should be interested at about Fourteen Minutes and 30 seconds into this video: Edited July 20, 2017 by lil weasel Taha Sami 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lancerator Posted July 20, 2017 Share Posted July 20, 2017 (edited) That's because Ken was set as a "neutral party" by Salvatore Leone once Sonny Forelli was killed. It seemed that the Forelli ruled the mob (or had a lot of influence) around 1986 and once Sonny got killed, this one was for Salvatore so Sal decided to put Ken in the middle so if one family attacks other then Ken is the responsible. Ken was playing for Salvatore in this one, not the Forellis, the guards and that bodyguard you see around 14:30 belongs to the Salvatore, the Leones. The money in the Casino was put by Salvatore so Johnny Sindacco ruled it for the Sindaccos, once he died by an heart attack this all belonged to Salvatore. And Ken was just a lawyer, an associate most likely. Not a wiseguy. Salvatore put the money in the Casino so his family (Leones) could achieve peace with the Sindaccos. Then in SA events, the Forellis wanted to take Johnny out (watch Intensive Care mission) then afterwards wanted to take Sal out (Freefall). If all of this happened, then the Forellis would've take over the Casino and kill Rosenberg. Edited July 20, 2017 by SMACKED! Taha Sami 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taha Sami Posted July 20, 2017 Author Share Posted July 20, 2017 (edited) I think the Forellis saw Ken as a traitor and disowned him.Thanks for your post, but i wish someone add more to your answer Salvatore put the money in the Casino so his family (Leones) could achieve peace with the Sindaccos. Then in SA events, the Forellis wanted to take Johnny out (watch Intensive Care mission) then afterwards wanted to take Sal out (Freefall). If all of this happened, then the Forellis would've take over the Casino and kill Rosenberg. You forget the Forelli had a stake in the palace here is the info from ken's page at gta wikia 《Rosenberg, however, immediately falls into the clutches to Liberty City's three mafia families, the Forelli Family, Leone Family and the Sindacco Family, who have him run Caligula's Casino, a mafia run casino in Las Venturas, with all three families having a stake in the casino.》 Edited July 20, 2017 by Taha Sami Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evil empire Posted July 22, 2017 Share Posted July 22, 2017 We can always assume Ken did a good service to the Forellis after Sonny's death and before San Andreas' events which made him regain favors from the Forelli family. Taha Sami 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taha Sami Posted July 22, 2017 Author Share Posted July 22, 2017 We can always assume Ken did a good service to the Forellis after Sonny's death and before San Andreas' events which made him regain favors from the Forelli family. this is interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lancerator Posted July 22, 2017 Share Posted July 22, 2017 The moment you mentioned the wiki I stopped reading. Enough for now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taha Sami Posted July 22, 2017 Author Share Posted July 22, 2017 The moment you mentioned the wiki I stopped reading. Enough for now. In fact, there are errors in it. But it helps to understand the story. I read about gta wikia somewhere in this forum and i understood what you want saying iiCriminnaaL 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iiCriminnaaL Posted July 22, 2017 Share Posted July 22, 2017 (edited) Shortly, he was associated with them before 1986, then his relationships with them was cut, till Sonny Forelli got killed. Later at 1992, he was appointed as a neutral point/associate between the three families; Leones, Sindaccos, and the Forellis. But later, he lost his relationships with the Sindaccos when Johnny died in front of CJ, and when Salvatore Leone came back to Venturas he made Carl kill Mike Forelli, which cuts the relationships of the Forellis for the Leones and even Rosenberg himself. Later, Ken, Maccer and Kent Paul left Venturas after Leone released them, so Ken's relationships with the mafia was totally cut. Edited December 19, 2017 by Kane49 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhoda Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 I've reopened this by request from the OP. I know things aren't exactly fresh in this section, much like the other 3D games forums, but at the very least can we start adding why topics are being locked without swanning off? It confuses people, and makes them wonder if they've done something wrong when all they did is ask a question. This isn't the worst topic in the world and if it gets people talking about the game, so be it. Whoever it is locking topics here, please explain why before doing so. It takes little additional effort and removes confusion. Taha Sami, Vanzant and Voodoo 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taha Sami Posted December 13, 2017 Author Share Posted December 13, 2017 I've reopened this by request from the OP. I know things aren't exactly fresh in this section, much like the other 3D games forums, but at the very least can we start adding why topics are being locked without swanning off? It confuses people, and makes them wonder if they've done something wrong when all they did is ask a question. This isn't the worst topic in the world and if it gets people talking about the game, so be it. Whoever it is locking topics here, please explain why before doing so. It takes little additional effort and removes confusion. Good idea, thanks for reopening the topic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evil empire Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 We can always assume Ken did a good service to the Forellis after Sonny's death and before San Andreas' events which made him regain favors from the Forelli family. this is interesting. It's just an immersion-friendly explanation. Like I oftenly write Ken rosenberg is a fictional character taking part to a fictional story and the fact GTA San Andreas doesn't give any explanation about why Ken acts as a referee between the 3 families probably means the scenarists never leaned to the question and made him appear as a wink to GTA Vice City. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
