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FacePaintHero

 

"Interfering with other players' gameplay experience." Sounds freaking generic to me.

 

You're interfering with our experience here; I think you need to be banned from the forum for changing my experience.

 

Oh my God the experience! Oh I'll never recover! I killed some guy in my Savage earlier - I feel terrible at how I interfered with his experience. Oh God.

I ran over some guy on the road 5 mins ago. Dang! Bannable offence! Maybe the guy was just going to the convenience store for some P&Qs! I disrupted his experience!

 

That said I hope all the legit guys get unbanned. I myself started playing online only in December but I will definitely rage-quit/boycott if something like this happens to me. The effort man, so much effort gone to waste

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So all the accounts became unbanned just to be re-banned a few hours ago :miranda:

Is this what just happened?

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Interfering with another player's gameplay experience is a bannable offense in a game that literally encourages you and pays you $2,000 to interfere with another player's gameplay experience.

 

You cannot make this sh*t up. R* logic at it's finest.

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So all the accounts became unbanned just to be re-banned a few hours ago :miranda:

Is this what just happened?

 

 

Yup. Got multiple reports of people saying they were unbanned then about an hour later were re-banned

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Interfering with another player's gameplay experience is a bannable offense in a game that literally encourages you and pays you $2,000 to interfere with another player's gameplay experience.

 

You cannot make this sh*t up. R* logic at it's finest.

More anti R* drama... R* would have to write 1000 words just so you understand what they are referencing. Its very simple. I am not even going to explain it to you. Forum full of drama queens.

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If u only join np, happens, but if you do over and over aint same. Its exploit and many maybe ban of that bug hacking. They can see this for sure in log files if you dc a lot at pac. so much for "full" legit, bug exploiter

If you get an invite from someone doing it but you don't DC yourself, is that still considered as exploit? Do you think they can 'log' that and get you in trouble? Edited by kenmy13999
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If u only join np, happens, but if you do over and over aint same. Its exploit and many maybe ban of that bug hacking. They can see this for sure in log files if you dc a lot at pac. so much for "full" legit, bug exploiter

If you get an invite from someone doing it but you don't DC yourself, is that still considered as exploit? Do you think they can 'log' that and get you in trouble?

 

It would be bullish*t if they counted being a "filler" for Pac finale as an exploit. Fair enough it's benefiting from an exploit, but you aren't the one disconnecting repeatedly. But if R* looks at your cash banked and sees a 15%-20% cut of Pac finale credited every 20mins or whatever for a few hours who knows.

 

Am I supposed to never accept an invite just in case a random does the glitch? At this point for most of us it's a case of the horse already having bolted, so f*ck it.

 

Yesterday I was considering going invite only for a while, but if they start to target current gen consoles I could get banned for being a filler during the double cash heist event, or getting a solo lobby on countless occasions, so I figure what's the point, I'll play how I enjoy and hope we current gen console players continue to be left alone.

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gizmonomono

 

"Non justified"

Sure ;)

Please explain to me how someone who has never even played gta online got banned from gta online.

A robot from the future got a message for you

 

 

What are you talking about? You're telling me you (or someone else) never played online, yet you got banned from it? No offence, but I smell bullsh*t. There are systems that manage that. They don't ban people by hand. You had to have done something to register as a potential cheater.

 

In any case, nothing a simple email can't fix. If true.

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If u only join np, happens, but if you do over and over aint same. Its exploit and many maybe ban of that bug hacking. They can see this for sure in log files if you dc a lot at pac. so much for "full" legit, bug exploiter

If you get an invite from someone doing it but you don't DC yourself, is that still considered as exploit? Do you think they can 'log' that and get you in trouble?

It would be bullish*t if they counted being a "filler" for Pac finale as an exploit. Fair enough it's benefiting from an exploit, but you aren't the one disconnecting repeatedly. But if R* looks at your cash banked and sees a 15%-20% cut of Pac finale credited every 20mins or whatever for a few hours who knows.

 

Am I supposed to never accept an invite just in case a random does the glitch? At this point for most of us it's a case of the horse already having bolted, so f*ck it.

 

Yesterday I was considering going invite only for a while, but if they start to target current gen consoles I could get banned for being a filler during the double cash heist event, or getting a solo lobby on countless occasions, so I figure what's the point, I'll play how I enjoy and hope we current gen console players continue to be left alone.

IMO it can't be considered as doing anything wrong. I get a lot of heist invites and let's say I was lucky and only accepting finale after finale, can't say I did anything wrong there.. but it seems like some people here think that would be something wrong
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Black-Dragon96

 

 

"Non justified"

Sure ;)

Please explain to me how someone who has never even played gta online got banned from gta online.

A robot from the future got a message for you

 

 

What are you talking about? You're telling me you (or someone else) never played online, yet you got banned from it? No offence, but I smell bullsh*t. There are systems that manage that. They don't ban people by hand. You had to have done something to register as a potential cheater.

 

In any case, nothing a simple email can't fix. If true.

Yes apparently someone who never played gta online on PC got an email by Rockstar Games saying that he has been permanently banned from gta online. Look a few pages back, someone posted a link.

Automated systems manage to do such things when there is no human who controlls their actions (software is only as good as the retard who programmed the software).

And fixing it by sending a simple email wont work because of Rockstars no appeal policy. The only thing you can do is spam their support with tickets hoping to get past the zendesk bot.

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The thing I'd argue about glitching:

 

I don't do it, but that's just my choice. In GTA IV it annoyed me for example when people glitched inside the map, could shoot you, and you couldn't shoot them back. Glitching (eg bring able to repeat PAC Std finale) to get money is less obtrusive - still I don't do it myself, but I don't particularly vilify others for doing it.

 

But here's the thing. These are all features of the game open to exploit, however unintended. If R* don't want people doing that sort of stuff then the obvious solution is to patch it out. That's what they did to stop people using Kurumas in PAC std. That was never even a glitch IMHO btw, it was an option - R* just decided as is their right they would block access to your garage for that mission.

 

There is a world of difference between exploiting features of the game as R* programmed it and using a mod menu to run scripts with foreign code. That's not an exploit, that's cheating.

 

Hopefully we can draw a distinction between exploits and cheating under those definition. I don't agree with all exploits, some are annoying, but I think it's hard for any of them to justify a character wipe - at the very least without prior warning that specific ones will lead to a ban.

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I have been getting messages from randoms in freemode asking me straight up if I want to buy a modded account. That's never happened to me before getting that oh so scary cheating message from R a few weeks ago. Call me paranoid and buy me a tin foil hat but I was thinking it was R trying to trick me into accepting it and then they would ban me for it.

 

I've had that once. From a complete moron too. He wanted me to swap my rank 650 and 250 characters for a rank 200 and 80. Even after I told him I had $180m in the bank and owned just about everything he still tried to convince me it would be a good idea.

 

I've had a player tell me that (I was around 500 at the time) if my account is fully legit and can be shown, it could be worth up to £1000 online... Absolutely laughed him down, but have since seen people do actually sell stuff like this, I was amazed... £1000 seems a little excessive, but damn, the point as a whole though... Crazy!

 

As legit 300 lvl player, I don't understand all these complains. This game is good no doubt, but there are also so many downsides, that makes me hate it: balance, bugs, lags, annoying loading screens, the phone, tryhard pvp glitchers and of course cheaters. Cheaters are the worst, I'm so tired of them, that don't even mind to take a collateral damage during ban waves. Never happened to me though, but if it will, it would be for good, so I don't have to deal with all this bs anymore.

Another thing, there is a part in EULA, we all agreed to, allowing R* to disable online for anyone by any reason. They can even shut it down any moment. Not like I defend them, I just understand their motivation and accept it, and for all who don't - may be it's a time to grow up?

And to bitching about lost effort - jeez, put your effort in real life, games are made to have fun and kill time, otherwise you doing it wrong.

Thank you very much!... Ain't chuckled this good in a while... Usually a post like this would get me biting back at just how wrong you are Mr. but I'll keep it short and simple... Have you got any hobbies/passions that you love?... Serious question... If you have even 1 thing in your life that is your hobby and passion, be it a train set, stamp collecting or anything that could be considered a guilty pleasure, then you'd surely see the disappointment in some to have that taken away, out of your hands, and, certainly in some cases, COMPLETELY UNJUST...

 

Look around the web you blind fool... Many innocents DO get caught up in these sh*tty affairs. Fact!.

 

But as I said, thanks for the chuckle... Lord knows we need clowns like you to lighten the mood.

 

 

As legit 300 lvl player, I don't understand all these complains. This game is good no doubt, but there are also so many downsides, that makes me hate it: balance, bugs, lags, annoying loading screens, the phone, tryhard pvp glitchers and of course cheaters. Cheaters are the worst, I'm so tired of them, that don't even mind to take a collateral damage during ban waves. Never happened to me though, but if it will, it would be for good, so I don't have to deal with all this bs anymore.

Another thing, there is a part in EULA, we all agreed to, allowing R* to disable online for anyone by any reason. They can even shut it down any moment. Not like I defend them, I just understand their motivation and accept it, and for all who don't - may be it's a time to grow up?

And to bitching about lost effort - jeez, put your effort in real life, games are made to have fun and kill time, otherwise you doing it wrong.

Excellent contrubution.

 

And I have to add, As you shout in the forest, so it echos. The R support was always great and very fast. THings done in hours. But If you are banned and u send as I just read here sending spam or even insults dont have to wonder that you dont get helped. Those are humans, You cannot treat support bad and only complain after your cheated account got locked.

 

Have to accept you did wrong, get the punishment and stay it as man, after you have chance to become fair player and pay respect for EULA

 

i'd say move this 2 bitch & moaning stuff thread

 

Spoke too soon... Here's another... Lol... Unless it's the wife...

 

Ain't it funny these 'legit; players with their blanket judgements are so new here too... Hmmm... Sharks...

 

Guys, guys, guys... It can't be said enough... You are just so entertaining, warms my heart to see the new gen gamer kids just be so wrong, hilarious to me.

 

 

 

You really expect someone to respond to a death threat?

 

What death threat are you talking about?!

Edit: You mean my second PM to him? Sorry. No, that was the situation in the former GDR (and the USSR, among labour camps) for people the regime deems to be eliminated.

Ah. I have received death threats in the past. My bad.

 

Yeah, I've had 2 myself dude, the first time came with a boat load of spam messages, automated ones and some absolutely sickening images. As I've mentioned, I was very new and completely naïve to this behaviour, and it was directed at my son too, I was absolutely enraged, and shocked... I went mental here, not that I'm excusing myself, but it was a real bad time/thing to happen, I even called the police... Granted, I now realise that it was a little OTT of a reaction, but reported it to Sony, each and every message like this... I hope they did the right thing, and ever since, I hide my PSN details from even friends... As the first 'attack' came from within the 'outer circle' I call it... The hanger's on, part timers, friends of friends, where they hadn't been vetted properly by the friend that brought them to the group...

 

In turn, I deleted everyone, and completely started fresh after a couple of weeks away... A disturbing time, and one situation that has contributed to me saying... 'Never another online game' for me, and my son is watched like a hawk, he plays PS in the front room, on the main, and I'm there, regardless of the game he's playing...

 

I sympathise with you on this dude, and apologise for 'getting at you' a bit of late, as I know first hand that things like that affected me enough to act like a real c*nt at the time here, and I can understand why you do what you do at times. I know a couple here that, after my outburst, and weather they agree with me or not, they will look to berate me/my comments too...

 

Bad times. But I'm glad I'm past it now, and playing without fear, though the recent events surrounding Gunrunning is well documented too, lol...

 

TBH, yesterday I had a sh*t start at work, I was a bit pinchy... Apologies. Though I do feel I had a point, anyhow...

 

I tend to avoid the 'best/worst messages' thread because of this, it can incite a reaction from me, so I leave it. IMO, that thread has been the source of some real tripe... JohnnyXThunder... a user here, wow!! He got some sh*t man... 1 person, using 4 or 5 accounts, last I saw, to troll this dude, death threats were the norm, and he was following JohnnyX for days making new, having a real pop, banned, go again... That thread was a driver for his attacker... He wanted to be seen attacking another like that...

 

A dark side to GTA, and it can easily spill out of the game, and all reasonable control. Especially if the twats can see themselves being lambasted here... IMO. Yeah, I don't visit there no more...

 

For those that think I'm dragging it all up, I'm not... I just empathise with this situation, over a f*cking game... As I said above to the idiots, a hobby is loved and enjoyed, but this side of it can be a real sh*t.

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gizmonomono

 

 

 

"Non justified"

Sure ;)

Please explain to me how someone who has never even played gta online got banned from gta online.

A robot from the future got a message for you

 

 

What are you talking about? You're telling me you (or someone else) never played online, yet you got banned from it? No offence, but I smell bullsh*t. There are systems that manage that. They don't ban people by hand. You had to have done something to register as a potential cheater.

 

In any case, nothing a simple email can't fix. If true.

Yes apparently someone who never played gta online on PC got an email by Rockstar Games saying that he has been permanently banned from gta online. Look a few pages back, someone posted a link.

Automated systems manage to do such things when there is no human who controlls their actions (software is only as good as the retard who programmed the software).

And fixing it by sending a simple email wont work because of Rockstars no appeal policy. The only thing you can do is spam their support with tickets hoping to get past the zendesk bot.

 

There is a topic here about how this guy got banned, sent an email and got unbanned the next day.

I'm still sceptical about that ban without playing online. There has to be more to it than that. And in any case, that's an isolated incident. There are millions of people playing the game, problems are bound to happen. But I would rather see an end to the hacking. It's ruining the game.

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Black-Dragon96

 

 

 

 

 

 

"Non justified"

Sure ;)

Please explain to me how someone who has never even played gta online got banned from gta online.

A robot from the future got a message for you

 

 

What are you talking about? You're telling me you (or someone else) never played online, yet you got banned from it? No offence, but I smell bullsh*t. There are systems that manage that. They don't ban people by hand. You had to have done something to register as a potential cheater.

 

In any case, nothing a simple email can't fix. If true.

Yes apparently someone who never played gta online on PC got an email by Rockstar Games saying that he has been permanently banned from gta online. Look a few pages back, someone posted a link.

Automated systems manage to do such things when there is no human who controlls their actions (software is only as good as the retard who programmed the software).

And fixing it by sending a simple email wont work because of Rockstars no appeal policy. The only thing you can do is spam their support with tickets hoping to get past the zendesk bot.

 

 

There is a topic here about how this guy got banned, sent an email and got unbanned the next day.

I'm still sceptical about that ban without playing online. There has to be more to it than that. And in any case, that's an isolated incident. There are millions of people playing the game, problems are bound to happen. But I would rather see an end to the hacking. It's ruining the game.

Well yeah, i would also love to see all the scriptkids gone, but not for the price of legit players getting banned too. And its clearly seeable that it is not an icolated incedent. Multiple people on this forum alone got banned for no reason.

Rockstar has to make sure that stuff like this does not happen. Banns should not be handed out by a bot. The bot should be able to flag accounts for strange behaviour but a real human person should have to look at the acccount before it gets banned. The player should also have the option to proof that he is innocent before his account gets banned and the first time ban should not eradicate the characters on the aaccount because we all know that human f*ckups can also happen.

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@Darth, I know you are a good player and a clean one too. I seen your work even though I never played with you. I can tell how hard you worked on your character as a whole out of the 3 years of me being on here. This is just bullsh*t cockstar going after the wrong people and it is f*cked up. I am sorry that this happened to you man. :/

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CharmingCharlie

I speak from experience with disabled family members in the past too, some things are just irreplaceable to people, things like the technological advances in entertainment and communication are a wonderful thing for all, and really do help people out there.

 

I hope to read this mess gets cleaned up.

 

 

Don't know if you are still following the topic KWF1981 but I thought I would mention that my disabled friend has been unbanned and had his character stats restored to normal. The only downside is he didn't get his bank balance restored. That is no biggie it just gives us an excuse to grind the hell out of pac standard once again with me payiing :-D

 

 

I have also checked the social club stats of my other two main partners in crime in GTA and they appear to have been unbanned. I have been playing gta with these two guys for nearly 2 years every day, we have done countless CMM challenges together, helping others, done more heists than you can shake a stick at. We have laughed, yelled and mocked each other to hell and back during the elite challenges and it is great they have been unbanned. This is how I was 1000% certain something had gone wrong with the auto banning system. These guys in no way would every cheat, violate or ruin anyones gaming experience they had to much to lose and their very actions in the game were 100% above board. Hell these guys went out of their way to help everyone they came across cos they KNOW how grindy the came would be.

 

Now I just have to convince them to actually come back to the game, because Rockstar has seriously dented their confidence in this game, hell why play a game if you are just going to lose everything like this through no fault of your own and with no way to redress any of the crap Rockstar have done and you have to just pray that Rockstar see the error of their ways.

 

Rockstar need to change their banning system and they need to have a process whereby long standing accounts get human verification and not just auto banned by a script and there needs to be a system in place where innocent people can appeal a ban. We have seen here that innocent people DO get banned, they can no longer claim the system is infallible.

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The only downside is he didn't get his bank balance restored.

 

That is looking like a pattern. I don't normally wag the conspiracy finger, but banning people with a ton of legit money and then unbanning them but not returning the legit money is more than blatant. It's f*cking insulting.

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You'd think they'd realise that they are beating a dead horse with the PC release by now. Similar thing happened with the PS3 & 360 versions.

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I speak from experience with disabled family members in the past too, some things are just irreplaceable to people, things like the technological advances in entertainment and communication are a wonderful thing for all, and really do help people out there.

 

I hope to read this mess gets cleaned up.

 

 

Don't know if you are still following the topic KWF1981 but I thought I would mention that my disabled friend has been unbanned and had his character stats restored to normal. The only downside is he didn't get his bank balance restored. That is no biggie it just gives us an excuse to grind the hell out of pac standard once again with me payiing :-D

 

 

I have also checked the social club stats of my other two main partners in crime in GTA and they appear to have been unbanned. I have been playing gta with these two guys for nearly 2 years every day, we have done countless CMM challenges together, helping others, done more heists than you can shake a stick at. We have laughed, yelled and mocked each other to hell and back during the elite challenges and it is great they have been unbanned. This is how I was 1000% certain something had gone wrong with the auto banning system. These guys in no way would every cheat, violate or ruin anyones gaming experience they had to much to lose and their very actions in the game were 100% above board. Hell these guys went out of their way to help everyone they came across cos they KNOW how grindy the came would be.

 

Now I just have to convince them to actually come back to the game, because Rockstar has seriously dented their confidence in this game, hell why play a game if you are just going to lose everything like this through no fault of your own and with no way to redress any of the crap Rockstar have done and you have to just pray that Rockstar see the error of their ways.

 

Rockstar need to change their banning system and they need to have a process whereby long standing accounts get human verification and not just auto banned by a script and there needs to be a system in place where innocent people can appeal a ban. We have seen here that innocent people DO get banned, they can no longer claim the system is infallible.

 

Are you saying you glitched pacific standard before together and yet she had no reason to be banned?

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gizmonomono

 

 

 

 

 

 

"Non justified"

Sure ;)

Please explain to me how someone who has never even played gta online got banned from gta online.

A robot from the future got a message for you

 

 

What are you talking about? You're telling me you (or someone else) never played online, yet you got banned from it? No offence, but I smell bullsh*t. There are systems that manage that. They don't ban people by hand. You had to have done something to register as a potential cheater.

 

In any case, nothing a simple email can't fix. If true.

Yes apparently someone who never played gta online on PC got an email by Rockstar Games saying that he has been permanently banned from gta online. Look a few pages back, someone posted a link.

Automated systems manage to do such things when there is no human who controlls their actions (software is only as good as the retard who programmed the software).

And fixing it by sending a simple email wont work because of Rockstars no appeal policy. The only thing you can do is spam their support with tickets hoping to get past the zendesk bot.

 

 

There is a topic here about how this guy got banned, sent an email and got unbanned the next day.

I'm still sceptical about that ban without playing online. There has to be more to it than that. And in any case, that's an isolated incident. There are millions of people playing the game, problems are bound to happen. But I would rather see an end to the hacking. It's ruining the game.

Well yeah, i would also love to see all the scriptkids gone, but not for the price of legit players getting banned too. And its clearly seeable that it is not an icolated incedent. Multiple people on this forum alone got banned for no reason.

Rockstar has to make sure that stuff like this does not happen. Banns should not be handed out by a bot. The bot should be able to flag accounts for strange behaviour but a real human person should have to look at the acccount before it gets banned. The player should also have the option to proof that he is innocent before his account gets banned and the first time ban should not eradicate the characters on the aaccount because we all know that human f*ckups can also happen.

 

Until I get banned for no reason I don't believe it happens. I've been a member on this forum for 4 years and I can tell you: the people here claming they are innocent, are not. There's been much talk over the years about cheating, modding, glitching... Most people here find it completely justifiable to glitch money, as revenge to Rockstar for making it hard to earn cash.

As for Rockstar support, I can garantee you, if you can send proof that the game has been unfair to you they will help you. First you get an automatic response, and the next email you get from them will be a person telling you to provide a video if you can. After you do this they will do what you ask. So the guy that got banned without ever playing online can easily provide the proof.

As for the rest, all that is needed is for you to have done one money glitch and have been reported and the system will register you.

As soon as I get banned for no reason I will come back here and eat my words. Until then I don't buy theese innocent bans.

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Are you saying you glitched pacific standard before together and yet she had no reason to be banned?

 

 

Jesus you do not quit do you ? No we don't "glitch" pacific standard we GRIND pacific standard. So what do I mean by that ? well I will host a FULL pacific standard with all the setups then in the finale we complete the proper way with running down the alley and using the bikes cos you know we actually like to do the finale that way. Then when my full heist is done one of my friends will heist a FULL pacific standard and we will do that. Then when their pacific standard is done another friend will host one etc etc.

 

We are all high levels we do heists and stuff in the game so we can all chat and laugh together. None of us see the benefit in cheating in pacific because that would defeat the purpose of us playing the f*cking game. But no you keep leaping on anything as if it is suspicious because for some reason you seem to be hell bent on tarring everyone as a cheater.

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Glitching is a grey area and I don't think it should be bannable. The only thing that should be bannable is using cheats Online.

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@Darth Absentis damn sry to hear this horrible thing that happened to you, i'm shocked I did not think it would happen to legitimate players and honest like you. This makes me sick only R* can f*ck this up so bad (we had some good time playing Heists) I Hope R* fix this and unban you.

 

P.S. I believe R* unbanned you.

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Until I get banned for no reason I don't believe it happens. I've been a member on this forum for 4 years and I can tell you: the people here claming they are innocent, are not. There's been much talk over the years about cheating, modding, glitching... Most people here find it completely justifiable to glitch money, as revenge to Rockstar for making it hard to earn cash.

As for Rockstar support, I can garantee you, if you can send proof that the game has been unfair to you they will help you. First you get an automatic response, and the next email you get from them will be a person telling you to provide a video if you can. After you do this they will do what you ask. So the guy that got banned without ever playing online can easily provide the proof.

As for the rest, all that is needed is for you to have done one money glitch and have been reported and the system will register you.

As soon as I get banned for no reason I will come back here and eat my words. Until then I don't buy theese innocent bans.

 

So let me see if I have got this straight here. The people in this topic and my friends are still cheaters in your eyes even though Rockstar themselves have lifted the bans and restored their character stats. You absolutely refuse to believe they are innocent and put your faith in an automated system designed by Rockstar a system that Rockstar just acknowledged made an error and they unbanned the people you are now claiming are still dirty cheaters.

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Someone's gonna be happy, then pissed about their balance, then develop stockholm syndrome :D

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Geisterfaust

Wit all this crap I made a decision not to grind deliberately anymore. I will export a car or two from time to time or sell full bar of my Bunker if I feel like it, but grindfest is over for good. Probably will try some DMs, because I have never played them beyond 3-4 attempts back in the days. Still can't get into stunt racing, looks extremely goofy to me.

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Until I get banned for no reason I don't believe it happens. I've been a member on this forum for 4 years and I can tell you: the people here claming they are innocent, are not. There's been much talk over the years about cheating, modding, glitching... Most people here find it completely justifiable to glitch money, as revenge to Rockstar for making it hard to earn cash.

As for Rockstar support, I can garantee you, if you can send proof that the game has been unfair to you they will help you. First you get an automatic response, and the next email you get from them will be a person telling you to provide a video if you can. After you do this they will do what you ask. So the guy that got banned without ever playing online can easily provide the proof.

As for the rest, all that is needed is for you to have done one money glitch and have been reported and the system will register you.

As soon as I get banned for no reason I will come back here and eat my words. Until then I don't buy theese innocent bans.

 

So let me see if I have got this straight here. The people in this topic and my friends are still cheaters in your eyes even though Rockstar themselves have lifted the bans and restored their character stats. You absolutely refuse to believe they are innocent and put your faith in an automated system designed by Rockstar a system that Rockstar just acknowledged made an error and they unbanned the people you are now claiming are still dirty cheaters.

 

I didn't call your friends "dirty cheaters", you did. And I'm not talking about the mistakes, I'm talking about permanent bans. I said in the begining "it's nothing a simple email can't fix"

You all claim Rockstar just ignores your complaints. Obviously they don't.

 

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The reason your friends got the ban in the first place was probably because the system had something on them. It was reviewed and decided that a ban was to harsh.

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Glitching is a grey area and I don't think it should be bannable. The only thing that should be bannable is using cheats Online.

I mean hell, imagine if we got our minecraft accounts f*cking deleted because we used one of those glitches to duplicate blocks? Or if you got banned from Borderlands 2 because you somehow managed to pick up the same gun twice. We shouldn't be held accountable for things that are broken, IE, glitches. I've accidentally duped my cars at least three times without even trying, and it's usually because the game has broke in some dumb way and now I have to reboot it. Should I get banned because my office farted out a second voodoo custom??

 

Basically, unless you've modded the game, if you have installed GTA V and joined online and not touched the file system after that, I think anything is fair game. I don't want to be banned because SOMEONE ELSE gave me money in this game that I didn't ask for. I don't want to be banned because the broken ass PC system duplicates my cars because it feels like it sometimes. I don't want to be banned because it decided to put the rims I bought for my Chino on a stock tornado. I don't want to be banned because I spent modded money.

 

Researching what NOT to do in a videogame just to keep yourself from a ban is completely stupid. "Okay, so if someone gives me money, and I spend it, I can have my entire character and all of the effort I put into him f*cking deleted"

Sure, in real life if someone gives you 4 billion in counterfeit bills and you try buying a f*cking fighter jet your ass is in jail, but this is GTA, and if rockstar can't figure out how to keep script kiddies from raping everyone's bank accounts then why do we have to suffer? "Oh, look, someone upped you from level 230 to level 640, you're banned even though there's f*cking nothing to unlock past rank 120 and it's obvious that a modder did this"

 

I shouldn't be scared to play GTA online, because my over 1000 hours of work can go poof at the touch of a button, just because someone gave me a few million. Oh sh*t, he bought two helicopters with glass armor because some dude with Force gave him money, better remove all of the cars and guns and outfits he put love and time into.

It just pisses me off what a mess it all is... I'm not banned, and I hope I don't get banned, but boy am I scared of that message every time I log into the game. I'm surprised they're so silent on this, because if I wasn't so worried about being banned I would totally buy some of those good old cark shards. But since all of my effort, time, and progress can be removed at the drop of a hat, f*ck no I'm not buying one of those f*cking cards. Ever.

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CharmingCharlie

I didn't call your friends "dirty cheaters", you did. And I'm not talking about the mistakes, I'm talking about permanent bans. I said in the begining "it's nothing a simple email can't fix"

You all claim Rockstar just ignores your complaints. Obviously they don't.

 

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The reason your friends got the ban in the first place was probably because the system had something on them. It was reviewed and decided that a ban was to harsh.

 

Yes you did call them cheaters you said you do not believe anyone that has been banned is innocent. The fact you keep claiming "it is nothing a simple email can't fix" shows how ignorant you are of the whole situation. I have been in constant touch with my friends via steam/phone. They have spent the past two days constantly emailing rockstar, sending support tickets that get instantly closed and generally going through f*cking hell. No you are insulting the sh*t they have gone through with you claiming "a simple email will fix this".

 

No the reason my friends got banned is because the autoban script f*cked up. The reason my friends got banned is because an automated script made an error and wrongly flagged them as doing something against the rules. Rockstar reviewed the bans and realised that the automated script f*cked up and fully restored all banned accounts that were mistakenly flagged as doing something wrong.

 

I don't even know why I am arguing with you, you clearly will not accept that innocent players were banned, this was a major f*ck up by Rockstar and they need to sort out their banning system and procedures to ensure this does not happen again and that gamers have a mechanism they can use to appeal an unwarranted ban because quite clearly the automated banning system is not infallible and does make mistakes.

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Guess R* listened this time. IM BACK :))

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