Heavy Sniper Mk II Explosive Rounds Discussion

[DigitalNikki]

It´s the same thing. One explosive shot let´s all armed aircraft smoke. too vulgar to be worth quoting.

It's not the same thing, and I'm not going to fight with your vulgar trolling.

Edited July 30, 2017 by aDigitalPhantom

[FaithNoMan]

One sniper cannon shot will render the jet useless, either immediately or within a few seconds.

 

New member here, and I agree with SHOKKKERZ91. I'm in the air more than the ground, and it's been that way since before the PS4 came out. I'm not a griefer, but if someone attacks unprovoked with the sniper cannon, I will use it as a chance to practice vertical strafes on them.

Our game definitely got a lot harder, and that's fine. A new jet, or at least an ability to paint one would have been nice.

 

(FTR I have owned the Hydra a fraction of the time I have been playing, and still greatly prefer the Lazer over that fat pig, especially now)

Edited July 30, 2017 by FaithNoMan

[DigitalNikki]

One sniper cannon shot will render the jet useless, either immediately or within a few seconds.

Useless no. Unable to attack players sure. If you can't use a damaged jet to get a new jet or leave the area you're a poor pilot. Damaging a jet to make it smoke is not the same thing as destroying it.

 

PS

If anyone thinks I'm not serious about the trolling, or the vulgarity here than my ignore list has a spot for you. Debating a subject is one thing, but what a few are doing in this tread is trolling and it's vulgar. If you want to discuss or debate like mature adults that's fine.

Edited July 30, 2017 by aDigitalPhantom

[Happy Hunter]

If you can't use a damaged jet to get a new jet

If you have to get a new jet, then that old one is effectively done, isn't it? Unless I'm missing something?

 

Best case scenario is that one shot makes a jet smoke (badly, I'd add) - this means it's going to fall down quickly, probably more quickly than a helicopter. Maybe one minute tops?

 

This is assuming one shot doesn't damage the tail of the jet, which I've often seen happen to the jets I shoot.

 

the vulgarity here

We are all adults. I'm sure the odd swear word isn't going to deeply offend anyone. Why would it? Unless it's directed at someone.

 

Apologies if it looks like I'm picking on you. I just don't see why him swearing means he can't be debated.

Edited July 30, 2017 by Happy Hunter

[SHOKKERZ91]

 

One sniper cannon shot will render the jet useless, either immediately or within a few seconds.

Useless no. Unable to attack players sure. If you can't use a damaged jet to get a new jet or leave the area you're a poor pilot. Damaging a jet to make it smoke is not the same thing as destroying it.

 

PS

If anyone thinks I'm not serious about the trolling, or the vulgarity here than my ignore list has a spot for you. Debating a subject is one thing, but what a few are doing in this tread is trolling and it's vulgar. If you want to discuss or debate like mature adults that's fine.

 

If you can´t land 2 shots with a hitscan rocketlauncher on a jet, you are a poor sniper. Landing 2 shots is easy. Everytime i used explosive rounds against a jet, the jet was done.

 

PS

I just give you the hard facts. If you can´t stand my style of descriping, ignore it. This has nothing to do with trolling.

[FaithNoMan]

 

One sniper cannon shot will render the jet useless, either immediately or within a few seconds.

Useless no. Unable to attack players sure. If you can't use a damaged jet to get a new jet or leave the area you're a poor pilot. Damaging a jet to make it smoke is not the same thing as destroying it.Yes, you can limp/roll away with a severely damaged jet sometimes....but a "useful" vehicle it is no longer. Just like how useful a car on fire rolling on 4 bare rims is.

 

The first night I saw the new DLC weapons/vehicles, my buddy decided to demo them on me in a Lazer. He didn't tell me he had the sniper cannon.

I'm trying to show the APC here more than destroy it, and show the sniper shot. Not any kind of serious flying at all(would be vertical if I was, instead of vulnerable)

 

As you can see, the jet isn't just "smoking" here, it's means of control have been blown off in one shot:

 

 

P.S. - follow my YT if you like. I'm too old to have an ego and most of my videos of GTA are for fun/laughs.

Edited July 30, 2017 by FaithNoMan

[DigitalNikki]

If you have to get a new jet, then that old one is effectively done, isn't it? Unless I'm missing something?

You can still use it for a short time. Even if the flight controls are damaged unless you're headed into a building or flying straight at the ground you can still use it to put some distance between you and the other player.

 

 

 

 

Best case scenario is that one shot makes a jet smoke (badly, I'd add) - this means it's going to fall down quickly, probably more quickly than a helicopter. Maybe one minute tops?

The jet is faster then a helicopter, and can cover more distance depending on where it was hit. Even if the flight controls are damaged it's not useless. Sure you get less time in flight.

 

 

 

 

This is assuming one shot doesn't damage the tail of the jet, which I've often seen happen to the jets I shoot.

Yes that will give it less time, but it's still not useless. Even at this point it is still not destroyed.

 

 

 

 

We are all adults. I'm sure the odd swear word isn't going to deeply offend anyone. Why would it? Unless it's directed at someone.

Than they need to act like adults. Swearing alone doesn't make something vulgar. Some guy bragging about his balls is vulgar.

 

 

 

 

Apologies if it looks like I'm picking on you. I just don't see why him swearing means he can't be debated.

You're the only person in this thread that has replied to me that has acted like an adult. I don't mind replying to posts like that.

 

 

 

 

PS

 

Yes, you can limp/roll away with a severely damaged jet sometimes....but a "useful" vehicle it is no longer. Just like how useful a car on fire rolling on 4 bare rims is.

I didn't say it was useful. I said it's not useless. I also said you would not be able to use it to attack other players. Just because you can't use it to keep attacking players does not automatically make it useless. Edited July 31, 2017 by aDigitalPhantom

[Happy Hunter]

-snip-

Okay, I'm not going to stick my nose/MTADS system into whether or not you should debate SHOKKERZ. I don't think he meant to really offend you or anything, but yeah, not really my business.

 

You're technically right that the jet still has a use - to get away, perhaps get a new jet if it isn't too far gone. But that's about all it can do. Which really isn't much. It's almost completely useless.

 

At any rate, it can't be used for long anyway. Can escape though if you bail quickly before taking another hit.

[FaithNoMan]

Hehe, we're debating over semantics.

 

Let's say it's 3% useful then. XD

[SHOKKERZ91]

When the tail is blast of, the jet is useless, since you have no more control over it. Helicopters like the buzzard have an even harder time, since you have to perfectly line up your rocket. Plenty of time for a pc-player to shoot 3 rounds into a helicopter with no effort whatsoever.

 

You are the troll here, denying my facts because i wrote them "vulgar". Welcome to the internet, where is everything possible.

[SilverRST]

Damaging helis like the Buzzard is actually more fun because, if you use sniper, not the explosive ones, and shoot the rear rotor, it gets damaged

and the heli is hard to control it Did that yesterday to my friend his Buzzard to test some snipers and other weapons and that was actually funny to see that.

Doesn't the Buzzard request have a cooldown of 5 minutes in CEO?

 

And one question: if a jet is far away but you can still see it through the scope and you hit the jet, does it get damaged? If yes, will it take more than 2 shots?

[SHADOW OPS]

Damaging helis like the Buzzard is actually more fun because, if you use sniper, not the explosive ones, and shoot the rear rotor, it gets damaged

and the heli is hard to control it Did that yesterday to my friend his Buzzard to test some snipers and other weapons and that was actually funny to see that.

Doesn't the Buzzard request have a cooldown of 5 minutes in CEO?

 

And one question: if a jet is far away but you can still see it through the scope and you hit the jet, does it get damaged? If yes, will it take more than 2 shots?

Still just 2 shots in my experience.

[SHOKKERZ91]

From my peronal experience always 2 shots. Helicopters 3, aside from mission helicopters.

[DrSweatySphincter]

At any rate, it can't be used for long anyway. Can escape though if you bail quickly before taking another hit.

I've seen numerous videos where the player doesnt even have time to eject because of the blast radius o_o. So far I have only been shot down once while in a Jet. My other experience being last night while doing I/E in Buzzard when someone shot it, but I managed to fly low and get away before my chopper just gave up on me. I have been lucky not receiving the wrath of this thing while being on the ground......yet lol

[TankGirl]

Finally offically took these off my gun and couldnt be happier. They are just too expensive and the fact that you only get 40 and have to reload in the MOC was just ridiculous. Have the stock mags back on and loving it, I missed my old trusty sniper.

[elfoam]

We used to have one-shot one-kill with the Heavy Sniper.

 

Now we have one-shot one-explosion for the Heavy Sniper.

 

This sniper has turned into a Railgun with a scope and a good rate of fire. It's a bad joke.

I like this quote, the heavy sniper used to blow cars up one shot before they nerfed it anyway.

[Oink]

Do you believe a man can change his destiny?

 

 

mfw I no longer dishonor myself by using explosive rounds

Edited July 31, 2017 by HitchsIap

[Rabid Vulpix]

Do you believe a man can change his destiny?

 

 

mfw I no longer dishonor myself by using explosive rounds

 

Realistically though you're only really doing that for yourself.

You're deciding not to use an element meant to be used in a video game, & that's fine.

 

The real dishonor is from those who exploit the game in PVP via off the radar glitches, invisibility glitches, wall breaches, etc.

A player deciding not to use explosive rounds in their Sniper Rifle isn't like a player deciding to stay clean/no modding or glitching.

Edited July 31, 2017 by Foreverpast

[Happy Hunter]

 

At any rate, it can't be used for long anyway. Can escape though if you bail quickly before taking another hit.

I've seen numerous videos where the player doesnt even have time to eject because of the blast radius o_o. So far I have only been shot down once while in a Jet. My other experience being last night while doing I/E in Buzzard when someone shot it, but I managed to fly low and get away before my chopper just gave up on me. I have been lucky not receiving the wrath of this thing while being on the ground......yet lol

 

I had a fight with three tryhards with them earlier. Got blown up a lot lol, but managed to stay more or less equal in kills with them.

 

In an outnumbered situation like that, I think you're better off not using your explosive sniper until you get some good vantage point - you'll lose ammo getting killed (and you inevitably will on an even footing against 3+ players). Where I evened the score was when I managed to get up high and shoot at their feet. Had them in a small cluster, just got them repeatedly (they kept spawning nearby).

 

They chased me around through a lot of the session after that lol. Eventually they caught up with me and got me pinned down, but I didn't have to suffer for long before I got saved by an unknown network error.

[DrSweatySphincter]

 

 

At any rate, it can't be used for long anyway. Can escape though if you bail quickly before taking another hit.

I've seen numerous videos where the player doesnt even have time to eject because of the blast radius o_o. So far I have only been shot down once while in a Jet. My other experience being last night while doing I/E in Buzzard when someone shot it, but I managed to fly low and get away before my chopper just gave up on me. I have been lucky not receiving the wrath of this thing while being on the ground......yet lol

 

I had a fight with three tryhards with them earlier. Got blown up a lot lol, but managed to stay more or less equal in kills with them.

 

In an outnumbered situation like that, I think you're better off not using your explosive sniper until you get some good vantage point - you'll lose ammo getting killed (and you inevitably will on an even footing against 3+ players). Where I evened the score was when I managed to get up high and shoot at their feet. Had them in a small cluster, just got them repeatedly (they kept spawning nearby).

 

They chased me around through a lot of the session after that lol. Eventually they caught up with me and got me pinned down, but I didn't have to suffer for long before I got saved by an unknown network error.

 

I have only fired one shot from my explosive rounds and these were my first unlock. Too expensive so Im saving these for certain occasions. Reverted back to the original heavy sniper and haven't regretted it since.

[Snapadoodle]

Maybe it's just because not that many people have gotten them yet but I still find explosive numbers far less irritating than homing rockets. At least they have to be aimed somewhat and you can take two and keep flying and they're way harder to get than homing rockets. Even with as good as I've gotten at dodging homing rockets, it still sucks that you don't have any room for error, and you know the person launching them didn't have to put in the least bit of work to take you down.

 

Even worse with the Oppressor bike, because even if you "win" the fight against the smaller target with the better tracking rockets, you get to pay 20k, and they'll have a fresh one up and running in less than 20 seconds.

 

And I have the bike with rockets and the heavy sniper with explosive rounds and thermal scope. Love using both of them, especially against hydras.

Edited August 1, 2017 by Snapadoodle

[FaithNoMan]

 

And one question: if a jet is far away but you can still see it through the scope and you hit the jet, does it get damaged? If yes, will it take more than 2 shots?

I had one guy who was such a good shot that he was taking my jet out quickly from anywhere in the city. He was in a prime spot on one of the tall buildings in the center by Maze but he was nailing me coming out of the far side of LSIA. I hit him a few times(he fared better though!) but each time I had to go pretty much 100% vertical, and if I missed I had to fly low, ducking behind cover until my jet was pretty much in Blaine county.

 

I actually sent him a compliment on his shots, so he called in another sniper cannon player who was also decent. I'm pretty bad on ground(no surprise there, right?) It was getting late so I hopped on a passing railcar and everytime he saw it I could see the explosive blasts on its' windows until it went underground, where I promptly logged off and went to bed. My friend never made it to the railcar.

 

RIP.

Edited August 1, 2017 by FaithNoMan

[Gridl0k]

I really miss my Heavy Sniper, especially if it's back to one-shot kill, but the explosive rounds are just too awesome to give up.

 

 

Plenty of ragdoll amusement plus I look forward to seeing a jet these days. GG r*.

[dino722]

Jets are no longer a pest...all those cowards that go passive to get a jet is no longer a worrie. I love the explosives rounds, true its expensive but waaaay worth it.

[Big Molio]

Jets are no longer a pest...all those cowards that go passive to get a jet is no longer a worrie. I love the explosives rounds, true its expensive but waaaay worth it.

It's fun to get on a rooftop well away from the marina helipad, and watch jet guys run down toward their Hydra, only to keep blowing it up with the sniper as they approach lol

[FaithNoMan]

Jets are no longer a pest...all those cowards that go passive to get a jet is no longer a worrie. I love the explosives rounds, true its expensive but waaaay worth it.

Not all of us go passive.

I also hate passive cowards, especially when they try to line up for a perfect shot while still passive in the air behind you.

 

 

Worse than any sniper.

[dino722]

^ my bad, not all are passive cowards but there are a big amount of players that when getting spanked they go off radar and run to a jet to take revenge thinking that they will teach a lesson...no more.

[FrugalDangerMan]

Finally unlocked them. 39th item. You know, because 10 weapon liveries I'll never use are so much more important.

115000 for the privilege of using them. 38 rounds max capacity (which, ok, they're essentially sniper accurate limitless distance grenades so I can see why were not carrying 9999 of them) and 38 rounds cost 11500 dollars. 309 bucks a shot. 1200 per magazine.

Damn.

But oh so fun.

Just wish I could change ammo types in the run.

 

edit.

 

I also love them for one reason. Marksmen Rifle Wiggle Warriors have no chance. Not much point in doin the dance when I can hit the ground near them and watch their stupid body rag doll 10 feet in the air.

Edited August 3, 2017 by PNutterSammich

[EvilFuture]

Explosive rounds are the absolute cheapest thing they have added into the game to date, even worse than BST. If somebody uses BST, you can spawn it instantly and it'll be even. If they got explosive rounds, you're completely vulnerable until you go get yours, and if you don't have them/can't afford them, then tough sh*t for you. There's no skill in sniping anymore, you can literally just shoot the ground in front of them and they're dead. Luckily, most people can see that the standard clip is still the better way to go, no running to MOC constantly to have to refill. 30 shots goes out quick, and once they run out, you're stuck with either the normal sniper, or the Marksman. But sadly, explosive rounds and the Oppressor are the new tryhard gadgets, so people are still gonna use them.

 

It also baffles me how people actually think that they're good and winning when they use them. I had a guy earlier get me 9 times in a row with explosive rounds spawnkilling me by shooting at my feet, kept spamming me with messages like "n i g g a you a trashboi" and I said "explosive rounds = no skill" to which he responded "thts what i told ur mom". Soon after that, I headed for my MOC and got MY explosive rounds. Final score was 43 to 9, he didn't kill me one single time once I got mine. Finally just started blowing himself up before I could get a shot on him, and STILL had the nerve to spam me with "trashboi" over and over.

 

Explosive rounds are a very very big rarity for me. If a jet pilot is better than the average bear and can outrun my RPG's/homing launchers and don't get too close so I can lock on, I go get my explosive rounds. Luckily, I don't see many jet pilots these days, so it's really no issue. Also, like mentioned earlier, if somebody else is using them, if I can't combat that, I'll get them. Otherwise, they get a big ol thumbs down from me. I've learned to deal with it, but I still prefer Rockstar take it out completely or at least nerf it, AKA do something important for once. Me and I'm sure many others are still waiting for a buff on the paper thin Savage, among a lot of other things, but adding pointless griefer sh*t like this is apparently what they're focused on.

[SHOKKERZ91]

Explosive rounds are the absolute cheapest thing they have added into the game to date, even worse than BST. If somebody uses BST, you can spawn it instantly and it'll be even. If they got explosive rounds, you're completely vulnerable until you go get yours, and if you don't have them/can't afford them, then tough sh*t for you. There's no skill in sniping anymore, you can literally just shoot the ground in front of them and they're dead. Luckily, most people can see that the standard clip is still the better way to go, no running to MOC constantly to have to refill. 30 shots goes out quick, and once they run out, you're stuck with either the normal sniper, or the Marksman. But sadly, explosive rounds and the Oppressor are the new tryhard gadgets, so people are still gonna use them.

 

It also baffles me how people actually think that they're good and winning when they use them. I had a guy earlier get me 9 times in a row with explosive rounds spawnkilling me by shooting at my feet, kept spamming me with messages like "n i g g a you a trashboi" and I said "explosive rounds = no skill" to which he responded "thts what i told ur mom". Soon after that, I headed for my MOC and got MY explosive rounds. Final score was 43 to 9, he didn't kill me one single time once I got mine. Finally just started blowing himself up before I could get a shot on him, and STILL had the nerve to spam me with "trashboi" over and over.

 

Explosive rounds are a very very big rarity for me. If a jet pilot is better than the average bear and can outrun my RPG's/homing launchers and don't get too close so I can lock on, I go get my explosive rounds. Luckily, I don't see many jet pilots these days, so it's really no issue. Also, like mentioned earlier, if somebody else is using them, if I can't combat that, I'll get them. Otherwise, they get a big ol thumbs down from me. I've learned to deal with it, but I still prefer Rockstar take it out completely or at least nerf it, AKA do something important for once. Me and I'm sure many others are still waiting for a buff on the paper thin Savage, among a lot of other things, but adding pointless griefer sh*t like this is apparently what they're focused on.

When i see someone with the garbage rounds, i get my insurgent, collect my 3 buddys and go hunt that f*cker with ghost org spam, stickys and every dirty trick in the book to make his experience as bad as i can. There is no room for mercy. This is not fighting anymore, this is execution.