Is the HD era still believable to you?

[ClaudeSpeed1911]

So with gun running coming out and all the sci fi sh*t that Rockstar is bringing into GTAO, is the HD era ruined?

I feel that the HD era is getting pointless after each time GTAO f*cks it up with all these dumb dlc's and all that is because its canon, its like Rockstar forgot why they reset the GTA universe and just decided to go back to the III era style stories with jetpacks and unrealistic things. What makes this worse is the fact that GTA SA is starting to feel more realistic as times go on. What a shame after the amazing start that came with GTA4 and its episodes.

Edited June 13, 2017 by ClaudeSpeed1911

[Payne Killer]

I don't play GTAO at all, and I don't consider it to be among the ranks of "GTA" if anything it's just another ADD fest for kids. Counting Vs SP, it felt believable, but we could use some more stuff to do with this trio.

[Piggsy pls]

Aside from contact missions and heists I don't consider anything else in GTA Online canon. It literally doesn't even make sense anymore.

 

The one good thing I can take from what they've done with Online is that hopefully they continue to make grounded SP experiences, and shovel all the stupid sh*t into Online instead.

Edited June 13, 2017 by Piggsy pls

[Zello]

GTAO isn't canon sh*t makes no sense it's all over the place idk

 

If it does end up being canon burn the HD era with fire and start over again

Edited June 13, 2017 by Zello

[Eternal Moonshine]

its like Rockstar forgot why they reset the GTA universe and just decided to go back to the III era style stories with jetpacks and unrealistic things

i don't like these DLCs either but i have nothing againt IIIrd era style storytelling. it was perfectly fine and honestly GTA IV and V were both very similar to III, VC and SA when it comes to storytelling.

 

anyway how are they gonna call the new era GTA? 4k era?

Edited June 13, 2017 by Eternal Moonshine

[DimitriFaustin]

GTA Online doesn't strike me as canon, though it's filled with missions and vehicles that really would've been much better off in SP GTA V.

That said, I don't think the HD Universe is ruined per se, it's just that Rockstar and Take-Two are really wasting their time with Online. It's time to move on.

GTA V deserved to have an "Episodes from Los Santos" just as IV got with EFLC.

[Official General]

I agree with you OP, but the good thing for me is that I never play V Online, so thankfully I'm not affected by it's bullsh*t.

[ViceBoy69]

I played V once online and that was enough, its taken me a long time to except V for what it is, im starting to like it, not so much following the missions but just generally fooling around to see what it can do.

Online is a travesty but GTA4 online got like that too, people spawning stupid stuff like boats into the middle of roads it just spoilt it,

[.Ryan.]

I don't even pay attention to the crap they add to GTAO, but it makes my stomach churn that it's apart of the same era as GTA IV/EFLC..

[~Tiger~]

The Tron Bikes and toy cars were a clear indication that GTA had totally gone off the rails.

 

Soon they will release the 'It Was All A Bad Dream' DLC and then things will get back to normal.

[DOUGL4S1]

GTA: Online stopped being canon years ago, how else would you explain the newly-added military bunkers, that are giant pieces of concrete stuck to the floor in Online and the lack of any evidence or mention of them in Singleplayer, that takes place 6 months later?

[MayoChiki]

I think GTA:O is supposed t be its own universe and not a part from the HD era. More like a spin-off, I guess.

 

The reason is simple: none of what happens in Online fits with the events of V. Hell, I think the idea of being the son of Niko Bellic or even Claude (someone who doesn't exist in that universe) is a clear indicator. I think people should chill out and stop taking it so seriously: Online is fun, stupid fun. It doesn't have to make any sense, but hey, it's all for gameplay purposes.

 

At this point the Online character could run his/her own country like Outer Heaven easily, so it's not supposed to be serious. I think the Online character also exists in the V timeline, but it's not the super private army CEO we have today. Michael makes a reference about Lester knowing a guy who can get them a lot of money for the diamonds they stole, and Martin Madrazo's witnesses disappearing it's a reference to the Online protagonist.

 

I think that after the Heists update, everything became non-canon and it's its own thing from now on. I think Online has enough potential to give Rockstar good ideas about how to make GTA Next a great game. If they implement a lot of the gameplay features from Online to the story mode, it'd be an amazing game. Hell, GTA Online would be near perfect if it was fully playable solo.

[DimitriFaustin]

The Tron Bikes and toy cars were a clear indication that GTA had totally gone off the rails.

 

Soon they will release the 'It Was All A Bad Dream' DLC and then things will get back to normal.

I don't know if Take-Two would let them make that kind of DLC.

Pretty much my response to Rockstar and Take-Two for their compulsive focus on Online would be, to quote Trevor: "J***s, your therapist has a lot to answer for."

[Tycek]

I couldn't care less about the unrealistic things they are adding to O on monthly basis, so it's not much of a problem for me. To be honest I don't even consider V as canon (since the story was so awfuly written), so IV and CTW are more or less believable for me.

[DOUGL4S1]

 

The Tron Bikes and toy cars were a clear indication that GTA had totally gone off the rails.

 

Soon they will release the 'It Was All A Bad Dream' DLC and then things will get back to normal.

I don't know if Take-Two would let them make that kind of DLC.

Pretty much my response to Rockstar and Take-Two for their compulsive focus on Online would be, to quote Trevor: "J***s, your therapist has a lot to answer for."

 

They probably would, just depends on how many Shark Cards you'd have to buy to get everything back to normal.

[.Ryan.]

I think GTA:O is supposed t be its own universe and not a part from the HD era. More like a spin-off, I guess.

 

The reason is simple: none of what happens in Online fits with the events of V. Hell, I think the idea of being the son of Niko Bellic or even Claude (someone who doesn't exist in that universe) is a clear indicator. I think people should chill out and stop taking it so seriously: Online is fun, stupid fun. It doesn't have to make any sense, but hey, it's all for gameplay purposes.

 

At this point the Online character could run his/her own country like Outer Heaven easily, so it's not supposed to be serious. I think the Online character also exists in the V timeline, but it's not the super private army CEO we have today. Michael makes a reference about Lester knowing a guy who can get them a lot of money for the diamonds they stole, and Martin Madrazo's witnesses disappearing it's a reference to the Online protagonist.

 

I think that after the Heists update, everything became non-canon and it's its own thing from now on. I think Online has enough potential to give Rockstar good ideas about how to make GTA Next a great game. If they implement a lot of the gameplay features from Online to the story mode, it'd be an amazing game. Hell, GTA Online would be near perfect if it was fully playable solo.

For me the problem with GTAO isn't that it's canon or not, but it appears to have a bigger identity crisis than GTA V does.

 

GTAO was alright until it started shoehorning in Saints Row-esque gimmicks as up until it that point it still felt GTA-ish.

 

Now there's a flying rocket bike lol. I don't understand why they don't just add the jet pack really.

[ClaudeSpeed1911]

The reason I say this is because R* them self said it was supposed to be a prequel and the heists indicate that aside from Trevor being in LA when he said he wasn't.

 

 

its like Rockstar forgot why they reset the GTA universe and just decided to go back to the III era style stories with jetpacks and unrealistic things

i don't like these DLCs either but i have nothing againt IIIrd era style storytelling. it was perfectly fine and honestly GTA IV and V were both very similar to III, VC and SA when it comes to storytelling.

 

anyway how are they gonna call the new era GTA? 4k era?

 

I wouldn't mind a return to the III era because unlike HD era post GTA5, it knew what it wanted to be. Now however its like they didn't care for the one reason the rebooted the series. Having a grounded yet satirical game was the reason for the reboot and now all off that is thrown into the trash. The vehicles and the things in Online is fine on their own but when the game starts acknowledging them and making them feel part of the world is when I start to feel like they went to far.

[Piggsy pls]

 

I think GTA:O is supposed t be its own universe and not a part from the HD era. More like a spin-off, I guess.

 

The reason is simple: none of what happens in Online fits with the events of V. Hell, I think the idea of being the son of Niko Bellic or even Claude (someone who doesn't exist in that universe) is a clear indicator. I think people should chill out and stop taking it so seriously: Online is fun, stupid fun. It doesn't have to make any sense, but hey, it's all for gameplay purposes.

 

At this point the Online character could run his/her own country like Outer Heaven easily, so it's not supposed to be serious. I think the Online character also exists in the V timeline, but it's not the super private army CEO we have today. Michael makes a reference about Lester knowing a guy who can get them a lot of money for the diamonds they stole, and Martin Madrazo's witnesses disappearing it's a reference to the Online protagonist.

 

I think that after the Heists update, everything became non-canon and it's its own thing from now on. I think Online has enough potential to give Rockstar good ideas about how to make GTA Next a great game. If they implement a lot of the gameplay features from Online to the story mode, it'd be an amazing game. Hell, GTA Online would be near perfect if it was fully playable solo.

For me the problem with GTAO isn't that it's canon or not, but it appears to have a bigger identity crisis than GTA V does.

 

GTAO was alright until it started shoehorning in Saints Row-esque gimmicks as up until it that point it still felt GTA-ish.

 

Now there's a flying rocket bike lol. I don't understand why they don't just add the jet pack really.

Yeah, when Online first dropped in some ways it felt more like GTA than V SP did, the missions were mostly odd jobs, assassinations, drug deals etc and they were simple yet open ended, it felt very similar to GTA III with the silent protagonist. But I can't even blame Rockstar for what they've done with Online, people are eating it up. It's crazy that it has survived this long. You post any valid criticism of Online outside this forum and you get hit with "omg shut up the dlcs r free". Edited June 14, 2017 by Piggsy pls

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It's true that R* decided to make a reboot aka the HD universe in order to make GTA less cartoonish and more lifelike, but I don't consider it a reason to say that the HD era isn't believable since adding wacky stuff to GTA Online. Of course, it's odd to see a TRON bike, an early 70's muscle car with a gun on its roof, or a Tesla Roadster spoof with a rocket, but I still think the HD universe isn't that unrealistic at all. I'm one of those people who think GTA Online isn't a part of the canon, it's just like a spin-off. I also think it's too early to finish the HD universe. As long as the next GTA's singleplayer won't have most of that Online stuff, the universe's gonna be okay.

Edited June 14, 2017 by (Ambient)

[Official General]

The Tron Bikes and toy cars were a clear indication that GTA had totally gone off the rails.

 

 

100 percent correct. Not that I was too surprised, it only did more to consolidate my fears that the series has now made it's foray into sheer gimmicky bullsh*t.

[GamesBoy316]

I just saw gameplay of that flying bike from the recent update for GTA Online, and now it's just getting even more ridiculous.

Edited June 14, 2017 by GamesBoy316

[Silver]

I'm between the two, I don't really like how unrealistic and how broken the timeline is right now with GTA Online, especially with map changes, characters dying, vehicles, stuff like that... so I tend to view GTA Online as being in its own universe where some stuff happened before and after GTA V and some didn't (like adversary modes, deathmatches, races, and probably other things that I can't even name because everything seems to be messed up at this point. As for the vehicles, the way I think about it is that they are super exclusive advanced technology (Shotaro, rocket car/bike) that only a few people get to enjoy, so basically the protagonist and some rich people here and there, I don't know, from that point I can even add websites as being non-canonical since they sell those vehicles to everyone... as for heists I consider them canon, even though that part with Trevor being in Los Santos doesn't make that much sense to me but whatever, lowriders too they're okay, Biker, CEO, Import/Export missions as well, I've only played biker missions and a few VIP missions and I think they work, as for the gunrunning missions I guess they work, I'm only watching videos on YouTube and I don't know much about what Agent 14 talks about so I need to see all of them to make up my mind.

 

I find it annoying that Rockstar worked so hard to make everything perfectly connected in IV and EFLC, with only a few inaccuracies, only to just say "f*ck it" with GTA V and GTA O, it's already difficult for me to take V's story seriously so having to know the difference between what is canon and what is not in GTA O is kind of worrying for future installments.