The Official B*tch & Moan Topic, GunRunning Edition

[ioxwave]

Ive never read so many complaints about a dlc in my life before but this dlc seems like it was the coming of the antichrist or some s*** lol i bought it too after doing heists and instantly regretted it for the fact that CEO/IE makes more money than bunkerfags.. Which is insane but not the worst, i would have thought they could have added an apartment expansion instead of bunkers to penthouses to start the missions or something, and instead of mocs for gun upgrades- why couldnt they have used titans or the luxor but without passenger seats? this kind of thinking at rockstar bugs me... They dont think outside of the box.. We dont want a lower quality lifestyle in a videogame... It should always be higher if were paying/grinding for it. Also the researching parts part is bs. ive yet to see a game that actually figures out nobody likes locked content behind time/cash/xp and if youre gonna do it, atleast lower your rank system unlocks to like 70 instead of 120 because after heists and ceo, i have 50 levels left to get a minigun and im not getting rp from crates fffffuuuuh that. To be fair tho, you can beat gtaonline in like 12 days if you just launch stunt races, then do heists and blow up one, sanandreas soul, then buy ceo/ie, and avoid bunkers altogether. I recommend anyone to just avoid all buisnesses after heists and just buy a hydra- thats all you need to laugh a little. The blue camo is cool tho, i did like that. It may sound rude, but i f*cking hate driving to my bunker when it could have been an R+D rooms addon to my current ceo hq.

Edited June 26, 2017 by ioxwave

[Arrows to Athens]

Livery colours are still glitched.

 

Sigh...

[We Are Ninja]

TLDR: It was literally costing me money to [defend myself and my product against] [other players]. That's the exact opposite of what I was in the lobby to do. I dunno that it's possible for R* to break the game any harder than they did.

 

 

Last night, me and a friend (a rank 20 scrub are on). He's in my CEO, and we're grabbing railguns out of the Merryweather base. I notice an org in ghost org. "He's prolly coming for us", I think. We take our time leaving the base to allow for his timer to run out some, then cautiously creep out of the base. No sign of him, so we head out. I can't call a Buzzard for whatever reason, so we hop in one of the craptacular MW Mesas and head up. We make it 50 yards before another insta-spawn Mesa takes out two of our tires. We take them out and I call up old faithful, my armored Schafter V12 LWB. We hop in and get going. I notice the same CEO that was in ghost is now OTR. I've got speed and armor on my side, so we head for my bunker over by Trevor's airfield. It's not a super long distance. Then I see a pink flying motorcycle icon appear behind us. Before I can tell my noob buddy to bail, that obnoxious flying bike takes us out with one rocket. He sends me a message that says "Welcome. ;)" then proceeds do loop-de-loops above our heads firing the occasional rocket.

 

-_-

 

He's a cocky one, but after a few minutes of being obscenely obnoxious, he swoops by a little too close and I shoot him off his bike. I get another message: "U mad?" Once he's off that godforsaken bike, he's much easier to deal with. All the BST, tryhard helmeting and EWO'ing can't hide the fact that he's not a great player. Good, but not great. As the skill gap grows apparent, one of his friends comes over in a Buzzard to pelt me and my scrub friend from the sky while he snipes. Eventually, I get the chopper down (it never occurred to me to use explosive rounds on it, so I did it the hard way... -.-). Now, they're both on the ground. His buddy is a better player than he is, though he's just as cheap. Still, the one-hit kill ability of the heavy sniper with explosive bullets keeps us fairly even. Yet another message: "Explosive rounds. Is that what it's come to?"

 

SRSLY. This from the guy that's abused:

• Ghost Organization
• Off the Radar
• Armed Jet bikes
• Bullshark
• Tryhard Helmet
• Easy Way Out
• Calling up a friend (w/ Buzzard)

All completely unprovoked. I can't with this dude. Once the kills start stacking up, he and his buddy hop in a car and take off... For the nearest airfield. Yes. Jets. Having spent $40k in insurance on that obnoxious bike, and going through a full supply of explosive rounds, I head into my bunker and pull my buddy in with me. It's literally costing me money to take the fight to these two. That's the exact opposite of what I was in the lobby to do. I dunno that it's possible for R* to break the game any harder than they did.

 

It really shouldn't require this much effort; it shouldn't be a vertical uphill climb to simply play the game. I wouldn't mind having to fend these guys off, but to be penalized for simply staying alive is too much. And that's just for insurance fees; let us not forget the cost of the ammo necessary to stay competitive in the face of this Battlefield/Saints Row-level hardware that's constantly on the map. Trying to break even in this game is difficult now, forget trying to actually get ahead.

Edited June 27, 2017 by We Are Ninja

[SmokesWithCigs]

why aren't the rear turrets permanent ? they cost about 200 thousand dollars but once you use them you have to purchase them again the next time. why rockstar? wtf is this?

[Cant-B-Faded]

why aren't the rear turrets permanent ? they cost about 200 thousand dollars but once you use them you have to purchase them again the next time. why rockstar? wtf is this?

That sounds like a glitch to me.

[Coleco]

Researching liveries. What the actual f*ck.

 

They all look like crap and I'm never going to use them. I'm sitting through each one of these though, I'm not fast-tracking anything

[Florpus]

TLDR: It was literally costing me money to [defend myself and my product against] [other players]. That's the exact opposite of what I was in the lobby to do. I dunno that it's possible for R* to break the game any harder than they did.

I think they need to remove the insurance and bad sport costs for destroying the new Gunrunning vehicles, $20K for defending yourself against the bikes is ridiculous. This is coming from someone who has an Oppressor, though I don't ever destroy people's supplies or vehicle cargo since I know how obnoxious it is when people do it to me.

Edited June 27, 2017 by Starkoji

[Schumy7]

Again no dripfeeds.

[We Are Ninja]

^ I NEEEEEEEEEEEEED the Wagner... o.O

 

 

 

TLDR: It was literally costing me money to [defend myself and my product against] [other players]. That's the exact opposite of what I was in the lobby to do. I dunno that it's possible for R* to break the game any harder than they did.

I think they need to remove the insurance and bad sport costs for destroying the new Gunrunning vehicles, $20K for defending yourself against the bikes is ridiculous. This is coming from someone who has an Oppressor, though I don't ever destroy people's supplies or vehicle cargo since I know how obnoxious it is when people do it to me.

 

Agreed. You're one of the good Oppressor owners. I find the thing so annoying that I can't even bring myself to buy one, LOL.

Edited June 27, 2017 by We Are Ninja

[Rafae]

Researching liveries. What the actual f*ck.

 

They all look like crap and I'm never going to use them. I'm sitting through each one of these though, I'm not fast-tracking anything

I used to say paying 225k for them was better than waiting it out but now I realize how moronic that sounds

[ntinoskonsta]

As someone who also has an Oppressor (even though I don't do any PvP with it), I find the insurance bill disgusting because it practically prevents me from stunting over water.

[Commander S]

I called this a while back, and it's not a new gripe, but...

 

...ugh, R*, can you STOP CALLING ANY RANDOM DECALS 'LIVERIES', PLEASE?

 

 

Livery = iconography denoting that you belong to a specific non-military organisation. Military uniforms only used to be considered liveries back in the days when they would also incorporate the heraldry of royalty/nobility, which isn't applicable nowadays.

 

With that said:

- motorsports liveries = yup, because that's showing that the car is part of that team.

- professional logos/colours = same. FlyUS or Downtown Cab Co.? Those colour schemes/logos are liveries, too.

 

- random decals, vinyl, pinstriping, and other car art at Benny's? Not a livery, unless it's something like the Redwood Racing team colours.

- camo patterns on vehicles and guns? Heck, that doesn't even show you belong to anything, even if you go for the same pattern on all your weapons/weaponised vehicles - there's no iconography or other identifying details, so it's just ...paint. To (mis)quote The Bard, "full of colours and patterns, signifying nothing."

 

 

/pedantic nerdy rant

[Cant-B-Faded]

I called this a while back, and it's not a new gripe, but...

 

...ugh, R*, can you STOP CALLING ANY RANDOM DECALS 'LIVERIES', PLEASE?

 

 

Livery = iconography denoting that you belong to a specific non-military organisation. Military uniforms only used to be considered liveries back in the days when they would also incorporate the heraldry of royalty/nobility, which isn't applicable nowadays.

 

With that said:

 

- motorsports liveries = yup, because that's showing that the car is part of that team.

- professional logos/colours = same. FlyUS or Downtown Cab Co.? Those colour schemes/logos are liveries, too.

 

- random decals, vinyl, pinstriping, and other car art at Benny's? Not a livery, unless it's something like the Redwood Racing team colours.

- camo patterns on vehicles and guns? Heck, that doesn't even show you belong to anything, even if you go for the same pattern on all your weapons/weaponised vehicles - there's no iconography or other identifying details, so it's just ...paint. To (mis)quote The Bard, "full of colours and patterns, signifying nothing."

 

 

/pedantic nerdy rant

You should hang out with the gun clip/magazine people.

[Coleco]

Right listen up scrotes, got a new objective - consider this one right from the top and totally NOT open for discussion

 

 

Let's all read it aloud together so we all understand what's on the board. Got it? Yeah? You sure now?

Anyone with any other bright ideas can come talk to me once I get back but know if it's anything paint related I'll be using you to decorate the next APC that rolls through here

 

Now get the f*ck back to work... and by that I mean real work, not you lot painting triangles on all my gear

 

 

 

I've seen brick walls with more aptitude and enthusiasm for weapons dev chrissakes

[Rafae]

I love that so much!

[Schumy7]

[Bandersnatch]

Omg !! I gona run out of like buttons in this thread. So many things to agree on.

 

Oh and f##k yea I unlocked boom boom livery, !!:-(

Edited June 28, 2017 by Remapped

[whywontyoulisten]

I've been distracted by...other activities recently, and haven't been in the bunker to watch the research changeover, but I haven't had a single camo. This isn't a bitch and moan, but it'll make other people bitch and moan.

 

Oh yeah, and <3 Coleco.

[ash-274]

The office chair trapped my soul this morning (can't do anything except pause and "Find New Session") so no Import/Export for me.

Got the 4+1 drop-offs with a DuneFAV and blew myself up twice with the mines: once because I dropped one and a traffic car (heavy truck) cut in front of me, stopping me cold, near enough to it; and the second time I meant to drop the weapons and hit the wrong button. Oops.

[PsychoAnarchy666]

I feel like the gun range should be updated or something,specifically for console users. This sh*t is a living hell. So far i've gotten three stars on sniper,one star for smg,one star for assault rifle,one star for combat mg,one star for carbine and 2 stars for pistol and this is all on PS4. They should maybe add 10 more seconds on it. I get it that's it's a challenge and everything but this sh*t is nearly impossible on console and everyone knows that.

[ash-274]

Right listen up scrotes, got a new objective - consider this one right from the top and totally NOT open for discussion

 

 

Let's all read it aloud together so we all understand what's on the board. Got it? Yeah? You sure now?

 

Anyone with any other bright ideas can come talk to me once I get back but know if it's anything paint related I'll be using you to decorate the next APC that rolls through here

 

Now get the f*ck back to work... and by that I mean real work, not you lot painting triangles on all my gear

 

 

 

I've seen brick walls with more aptitude and enthusiasm for weapons dev chrissakes

Love this.

Also, this is why I go out of my way to not pay them

[Coleco]

Agent 14 uses contacts to get you into Fort Zancudo to steal a tank

 

Shame he couldn't use those same contacts to let you leave the place discreetly without killing the whole damn army along the way

 

Useless and illogical NPC "planning" strikes again in this game

[ntinoskonsta]

Agent 14 uses contacts to get you into Fort Zancudo to steal a tank

 

Shame he couldn't use those same contacts to let you leave the place discreetly without killing the whole damn army along the way

 

Useless and illogical NPC "planning" strikes again in this game

 

His contact is secretly Lester the Molester. Only this time you don't get a timer for Cops Turn Blind Eye.

[Tokasmoka]

Still getting used to the fact that the Opressor doesn't have a horn. Was doing contact mission and I was trying to honk at the guy standing in front of my bike so I can squeeze by but inside I ploughed through him and went in the ocean to the cost of $20k.

[StangOne50]

I feel like the gun range should be updated or something,specifically for console users. This sh*t is a living hell. So far i've gotten three stars on sniper,one star for smg,one star for assault rifle,one star for combat mg,one star for carbine and 2 stars for pistol and this is all on PS4. They should maybe add 10 more seconds on it. I get it that's it's a challenge and everything but this sh*t is nearly impossible on console and everyone knows that.

Yes these challenges are extremely difficult. I started trying to complete them and on tier 3 I am not really even coming close to the score needed. Its really hard to get into any rhythm because after a few attempts it becomes so tedious and boring.

Its odd since R is all about money these days. Cant see how they are making money by having players sit in a shooting range for hours and hours.

[Arrows to Athens]

Livery colours still disappear every now and then, even if you have them already equipped. For f*ck's sake. I'm beginning to think they intentionally introduced this glitch so we are tricked into buying them again to waste even more money. If you didn't know, even if your livery colour is equipped, selecting it again purchases it again, draining even more money.

 

Sneaky c*nts!

 

Edited June 29, 2017 by Arrows to Athens

[PsychoAnarchy666]

 

I feel like the gun range should be updated or something,specifically for console users. This sh*t is a living hell. So far i've gotten three stars on sniper,one star for smg,one star for assault rifle,one star for combat mg,one star for carbine and 2 stars for pistol and this is all on PS4. They should maybe add 10 more seconds on it. I get it that's it's a challenge and everything but this sh*t is nearly impossible on console and everyone knows that.

 

Yes these challenges are extremely difficult. I started trying to complete them and on tier 3 I am not really even coming close to the score needed. Its really hard to get into any rhythm because after a few attempts it becomes so tedious and boring.

Its odd since R is all about money these days. Cant see how they are making money by having players sit in a shooting range for hours and hours.

They probably added it in so it would give players to do something while they wait for the research or stock to get done. I feel like this is the new criminal mastermind challenge.

[JetSin]

No horn for the Oppressor, wtf man...

[Arrows to Athens]

No horn for the Oppressor, wtf man...

What button would you want for the horn/rockets, then?

[JetSin]

 

No horn for the Oppressor, wtf man...

What button would you want for the horn/rockets, then?

 

 

Maybe make it so right analog stick utilizes the horn or something. Sometimes I just wanna honk at people, so it'd be nice.