Is biker business/clubs worth to begin ?

[MarczXD]

I am a CEO with a car depot and a cargo warehouse, but now i am honestly thinking if i should buy a biker clubhouse and start a biker business.

 

Do you guys think its worth it to buy ? or should i wait gunrunning to start a weapon business ?

[SHADOW OPS]

Wait until gunrunning. It may be more profitable.

[Rafae]

You're fine with I/E

 

It's the best way to make money. Don't bother with biker businesses if you already have I/E and crates running.

 

Unless of course you want to see what the whole biker business thing is like, in that case just wait until Gunrunning comes out because biker businesses cost ALOT to start up.

[Mexicola9302]

If you have enough money try it out it wouldn`t hurt you get 10 extra slots just for bikes and one favorite bike that always heals you to 100%. If you you wanna do that buy the cheapest mc clubhouse and the cheapest cocaine business and upgrade the cocaine business max it out you get 420k for the sales. There still is a discount on the biker stuff im not mistaken.

[Tonguegirl]

The Biker thing never really interested me.

 

Couldn't be bothered with the missions; couldn't be bothered with stealing product to create supplies so ended up just buying them. Couldn't be bothered with the long distance selling runs which you have to do to make any money. Almost lost my mind with the constant phone calls from my NPC partner LJT.

 

All-in-all a complete waste of time and effort IMO. It's worth buying a clubhouse if you like bikes and want somewhere grubby to store them, apart from that I wouldn't waste your time, it's more annoying than it's worth. Stick to cars

[Darealbandicoot]

Compared to ceo and especially I/E absolutely not unless you want to try it out or just own it for the sake of owning it.

[Lonely-Martin]

An MC clubhouse is ideal and very cheap for a low rent gaffe... $200k, and you can store 10 bikes in there, I'd grab that at least, even just for the look and feel of it and storage...

 

The Biker stuff was never something i relied on, crates and I/E as a solo player, heists as a team...

 

But for fun, MC contracts from the table room wall, are in my opinion, some of the very best freemode missions availabe from a fun stand point, and the businesses will tick over eventually too, there's lots to learn, and with the new DLC imminent, I'd wait, but if you are well off, or are happy to buy sharkcards for things, then playing with biker businesses is kinda fun, for me at least... And the extra cash it generates never goes unwanted...

 

I fill a business by stealing supplies (3 jobs worth, with heli) at the start of a session, sell at 2 bars of product at the end of the session... Twice if longer sessions... Makes me another $150-350k per day, takes 20/30 mins to fill, takes 10/20 mins to sell...

 

Made near $12m from the 5 businesses overall so far... Broke even, haven't even tried hard with it... But MC contracts made $17.5m on event weeks... Very profitable.

Edited June 11, 2017 by KWF1981

[kenmy13999]

If you have enough money to buy it without that affecting gunrunning it wouldn't hurt but if you're on a kind of "low" budget I would wait, at least to see if Gunrunning will be worth it. As others have pointed out I/E should be enough but it can be a nice "passive" income

[GTA-Biker]

I would recommend buying a clubhouse for extra motorcycle parking space, clubhouse contract missions (they're fun, they can be done in invite only, some can be done solo, and most pay well) and the ability to call for any of your bikes without cooldown period,but I honestly never bothered with businesses since they can't be done in invite only and I've heard that some LJT guy keeps calling you all the time.

Edited June 11, 2017 by GTA-Biker

[RyuNova]

Clubhouse Missions can be done in a Solo Session.

You can leave the Biker Business working in the background, just fill the product bar and then go back to working on CEO and it will generate Product in the background.

[Jimbatron]

Coke is definitely worth it, as the factory fills up while you do other stuff and has a good rate of return.

 

Even if you buy supplies at 75k, those supplies will give 168k worth of product after 2 hours, netting you 93k in a delivery mission taking 10-20 minutes.

 

That's actually slightly better than IE where you can expect 75-80k net per delivery, although it's less frequent, but crucially your factory fills up while you do IE or whatever else.

 

I would check out the fun running options before you buy though. They might be even better.

[Jorge187]

I bought four mc businesses when the dlc dropped, but only doing coke now and shutdown the others...

 

I moved my coke factory to Paleto Bay and bought the house down the alley there (with the waving American flag) for having a spawn location in PB. I wanted to have something to do in PB and it's a nice change of pace, but kept my clubhouse (Harwick) in the city so I can check the stock of the coke factory while doing CEO stuff.

 

I think the GR bunkers will be around the Grand Senora Dessert and my CEO stuff is in the city, so a MC business in Paleto Bay makes it complete...

[Lubas]

Wait for Gunrunning!

 

I was thinking about MC too but there's Gunrunning things soon.

[Van_Hellsing]

Only the coke business is worth while. Be prepared to get raided even with security. Get used to pesky TJ calls.

 

 

Maybe you should wait for the gun running business to materialize, before you make a decision.

[Jorge187]

.. Be prepared to get raided even with security ..

Never be a MC President outside a mission and never be one outside a building to avoid the raids. Works like a charm and you don't even have to buy the security upgrade...

Edited June 11, 2017 by jamsroob

[GTASA-Pilot]

Before recent patches, biker businesses was very good option because you could steal supplies for your fully upgraded coke business and then idle for 2 hours by watching TV/security cameras and you would be free to do whatever you want in real life while your factory is producing in the background. Sadly, this is no longer possible after a recent patch. So, to answer your question, no it's not worth it anymore. Stick to CEO crates and/or I/E vehicles.

[FrugalDangerMan]

I would check out the fun running options before you buy though. They might be even better.

 

Where can I run fun?

[Geisterfaust]

Stay away because:

• There are various glitches especially in Coke business. Supplies are not registering and stuff like that;
• Anything apart from Coke doesn't even look lucrative on paper, complete waste of time and money;
• Stealing supplies solo will bore you to death and takes forever, buying them makes you question why are you even bothering with this crap;
• Deliveries are TOO long most of the time. Add some time for stealing supplies and you're talking full time gta employment here;
• There is no premium on the full warehouse and it requires 3 vehicles some of them may be criminally irritating (Post Op vans);
• There is no production when you're in contact missions or heists, anywhere out of freeroam;
• You're paying 9k every 48 mins if you're registered as a biker for single Coke warehouse;
• It's true that LJT calls are that annoying, yes

You can get a clubhouse, some of biker contracts are nice for variety and that's the cheapest way to get any new freemode work, Special vehicles are much more expensive. There is no way to store cars in clubhouse and there are top tier apartments at 200k (Del Piero, Alta st.) that can hold anything you want and located much better. Clubhouse mods are beyond overpriced.

 

 

Don't repeat my mistakes, don't get this crap. Do Vehicle cargo, VIP jobs, contracts if you like them, heists, anything but not Biker business.

 

However, if you can get a crew of 2-4 and 2-4 millions free you may give it a shot just for a variety.

Edited June 11, 2017 by hei3enberg

[El Payaso]

Yes, SOME biker businesses are definitely worth it.

 

However, I would advise you to wait for gunrunning. Word is it is more profitable than any of the businesses right now (CEO or Biker).

 

On the flip side, if you feel you have more than enough money to blow, you should definitely get the biker business. Coke and meth generate some really good money. Weed and cash generate okay money.

 

They're all passive too so you just buy supplies and leave your player idle or play other things.

[GTASA-Pilot]

Yes, SOME biker businesses are definitely worth it.

 

However, I would advise you to wait for gunrunning. Word is it is more profitable than any of the businesses right now (CEO or Biker).

 

On the flip side, if you feel you have more than enough money to blow, you should definitely get the biker business. Coke and meth generate some really good money. Weed and cash generate okay money.

 

They're all passive too so you just buy supplies and leave your player idle or play other things.

Idling is not an option anymore as far as I know. Idling will stop the production in the business.

[Lonely-Martin]

Before recent patches, biker businesses was very good option because you could steal supplies for your fully upgraded coke business and then idle for 2 hours by watching TV/security cameras and you would be free to do whatever you want in real life while your factory is producing in the background. Sadly, this is no longer possible after a recent patch. So, to answer your question, no it's not worth it anymore. Stick to CEO crates and/or I/E vehicles.

Awww... Still bitter.

 

 

 

Yes, SOME biker businesses are definitely worth it.

 

However, I would advise you to wait for gunrunning. Word is it is more profitable than any of the businesses right now (CEO or Biker).

 

On the flip side, if you feel you have more than enough money to blow, you should definitely get the biker business. Coke and meth generate some really good money. Weed and cash generate okay money.

 

They're all passive too so you just buy supplies and leave your player idle or play other things.

Idling is not an option anymore as far as I know. Idling will stop the production in the business.

Yes it is, I idled a couple of contact missions while popping to the shop yesterday, rubberband, and a safe spot to wander... Garage, office, clubhouse, in the actual business... Behave man!!!... I know you're pissed and given up, but no need to make it all up and look to put your bitterness onto others...

 

(Your on many threads with the same complaint, not just reacting to these posts mind you... Get over it.)

 

Stay away because:

• There are various glitches especially in Coke business. Supplies are not registering and stuff like that;
• Anything apart from Coke doesn't even look lucrative on paper, complete waste of time and money;
• Stealing supplies solo will bore you to death and takes forever, buying them makes you question why are you even bothering with this crap;
• Deliveries are TOO long most of the time. Add some time for stealing supplies and you're talking full time gta employment here;
• There is no premium on the full warehouse and it requires 3 vehicles some of them may be criminally irritating (Post Op vans);
• There is no production when you're in contact missions or heists, anywhere out of freeroam;
• You're paying 9k every 48 mins if you're registered as a biker for single Coke warehouse;
• It's true that LJT calls are that annoying, yes

You can get a clubhouse, some of biker contracts are nice for variety and that's the cheapest way to get any new freemode work, Special vehicles are much more expensive. There is no way to store cars in clubhouse and there are top tier apartments at 200k (Del Piero, Alta st.) that can hold anything you want and located much better. Clubhouse mods are beyond overpriced.

 

 

Don't repeat my mistakes, don't get this crap. Do Vehicle cargo, VIP jobs, contracts if you like them, heists, anything but not Biker business.

 

However, if you can get a crew of 2-4 and 2-4 millions free you may give it a shot just for a variety.

Just not true...

 

* The coke glitch where supplies didn't register has been fixed for ages now, no issue...

* Meth sells for $357k, cash for $294k, weed for $252k, and ID for $126k... Even the ID is worth more than a Fleeca, for little effort...

* Boring? Subjective... Takes forever? Wrong... It takes 3 or 4 jobs to fill the business, with a heli, and a little knowledge, takes 20-30 mins max...

* Sales are too long?... Well, if you sell at no more than 2 bars, then it's either 1 or 2 vehicles... Quite easy solo, 20mins...

* No premium?... Sell among friends for bonuses, 3 vehicles? See my previous line...

* Completely FALSE, I often fill a business, then race, heist or do contact missions, selling after, refilling, repeating... Too easy. MUST STRESS THIS ONE.

* Avoid bills by being aware of session times, me, I do 3 or 4 supply runs, then retire the MC... Then re-run my playlist, resetting utility bill timers...

* I only have 1 business active, to stop calls, fill a business with supplies, then close it... Bye LJT...

 

And, further to your follow up paragraph... Tuning a bike in the MC clubhouse customs, cost no more or less than any other mod shop, or Benny's... Some mods in general, especially Benny tunes, are very expensive indeed though... Mistakes here really can hurt the bank...

 

Seriously, it's ideal to have at least 1 business running behind I/E and/or crates... Easiest extra cash in the game... Especially if you are a keen earner for DLC's...

 

* To All...

 

When I grind this, with all other freemode, I like the variety... From loading in...

 

Run playlist,

pick a business and fill it (3-4 jobs, leaving others closed, with supplies in... Having 1 only open, stops raids on others immediately after a sale on another),

run playlist,

source car, sell car,

buy 4x single crates (2 w/h's, no cooldowns),

source car, sell car,

buy 4x single crates,

check MC, sell if ready, do more freemode if not...

 

Replace the car sourcing/sales, and crate runs for heisting, with friends or on call... I often do that myself too... Race, mission, fight with others, dealer's choice... The MTU method, or date/time method works, personally I prefer the playlist method, plus I get paid, and I semi-idle them, rolling smokes, making coffee, doing paperwork, or chores around the house even...

 

Rinse and repeat, chuck in some headhunters, sightseers, or fortified for a smoke/coffee... Cash is King!... CEO utility bills are nothing much, I can fill 2 w/h's with 8 in each in a couple of hours, with distractions too... I have playlists of missions, and races, depending on my fancy, sometimes a quick lap (Criminal Records for MC - Heli pick-up near by, or Downtown Underground for CEO), as there's other bits to do quickly, other times I plod a contact mission playlist and after it, by taking longer, my business is ready to sell straight away... The ID business is actually really fast at turning to product, IMO...

 

Never start the MC up outside the business, I register by accessing the laptop, as soon as full, disband the MC, do playlist to reset MC utility bills charge, do I/E, crates, contact missions, heists, race or LTS's... Never had an issue with the business not turning over while on a job, you must ne online, but anywhere active is good enough...

 

I sell at 1.5/2 bars max, avoids the 3rd vehicle on post op, trash trucks, heli's and planes, stops the 3rd and 4th bike, and often, it's just a van for all the supplies, and just a 3 mile cruise from my business to sell it all... Again, for me, little and often, playing safe, as I had much grief to start, I've only been doing freemode businesses since x-mas 2016 through the hassle, I stayed heisting, lol... Since then, 1250 crates, 206 cars, and these 5 businesses ticking over in the background... Once start-up costs are replaced, it just keeps coming dude...

 

It can work, but it does take some effort, as this GTASA-Pilot shows, he can't get the cash being that idle, but I get rich just plodding it all...

 

For those struggling solo in Tequi-la-la... Put a sticky bomb on your motorbike, drive in, run out... Bang!!!... Repeat if needed... Insurance is free on MC jobs... And, outrun every NPC instead of shooting all of them, snacks are free/$1 in the office, spam them, not the Uzi... Much cheaper, lol...

 

Peace...

[Jayfab]

Interesting that you mention a patch. I was delivering coke yesterday (2 bars) and I got that van but I did not have to deliver 5 packages. It was just a single van I had to get to one location. So may Rockstar Games have patched that tedious van delivery mission as well? I also noticed that van was much faster at topspeed than the other van.

[Lonely-Martin]

Interesting that you mention a patch. I was delivering coke yesterday (2 bars) and I got that van but I did not have to deliver 5 packages. It was just a single van I had to get to one location. So may Rockstar Games have patched that tedious van delivery mission as well? I also noticed that van was much faster at topspeed than the other van.

No, that's always been an option, solo van sales, usually for meth or weed, usually a Gang Burrito, or the Rat-Truck...

 

Along with the 3 Post op vans/trash trucks too... Funny when delivering the weed with a gang van, there's another dude in there that 'can't drive'... You must... Very stoned... Lol... Trippy!!!!

[El Payaso]

 

Yes, SOME biker businesses are definitely worth it.

 

However, I would advise you to wait for gunrunning. Word is it is more profitable than any of the businesses right now (CEO or Biker).

 

On the flip side, if you feel you have more than enough money to blow, you should definitely get the biker business. Coke and meth generate some really good money. Weed and cash generate okay money.

 

They're all passive too so you just buy supplies and leave your player idle or play other things.

Idling is not an option anymore as far as I know. Idling will stop the production in the business.

 

 

The security camera method still works. I tried it recently and production still continued.

[El Payaso]

Stay away because:

• There are various glitches especially in Coke business. Supplies are not registering and stuff like that;
• Anything apart from Coke doesn't even look lucrative on paper, complete waste of time and money;
• Stealing supplies solo will bore you to death and takes forever, buying them makes you question why are you even bothering with this crap;
• Deliveries are TOO long most of the time. Add some time for stealing supplies and you're talking full time gta employment here;
• There is no premium on the full warehouse and it requires 3 vehicles some of them may be criminally irritating (Post Op vans);
• There is no production when you're in contact missions or heists, anywhere out of freeroam;
• You're paying 9k every 48 mins if you're registered as a biker for single Coke warehouse;
• It's true that LJT calls are that annoying, yes

You can get a clubhouse, some of biker contracts are nice for variety and that's the cheapest way to get any new freemode work, Special vehicles are much more expensive. There is no way to store cars in clubhouse and there are top tier apartments at 200k (Del Piero, Alta st.) that can hold anything you want and located much better. Clubhouse mods are beyond overpriced.

 

 

Don't repeat my mistakes, don't get this crap. Do Vehicle cargo, VIP jobs, contracts if you like them, heists, anything but not Biker business.

 

However, if you can get a crew of 2-4 and 2-4 millions free you may give it a shot just for a variety.

 

I have to agree with a lot of the issues brought up here. The money paid could be a little better.

 

One of the most annoying for me are those Post Op vans. My God, they are infuriating. What's most annoying is when LJT says "Okay. We're attempting some DISCRETION here by pretending we're the postal service..."

 

The game then proceeds to blast your location all over the map to every single player. So much for discretion.

[Lonely-Martin]

 

Stay away because:

• There are various glitches especially in Coke business. Supplies are not registering and stuff like that;
• Anything apart from Coke doesn't even look lucrative on paper, complete waste of time and money;
• Stealing supplies solo will bore you to death and takes forever, buying them makes you question why are you even bothering with this crap;
• Deliveries are TOO long most of the time. Add some time for stealing supplies and you're talking full time gta employment here;
• There is no premium on the full warehouse and it requires 3 vehicles some of them may be criminally irritating (Post Op vans);
• There is no production when you're in contact missions or heists, anywhere out of freeroam;
• You're paying 9k every 48 mins if you're registered as a biker for single Coke warehouse;
• It's true that LJT calls are that annoying, yes

You can get a clubhouse, some of biker contracts are nice for variety and that's the cheapest way to get any new freemode work, Special vehicles are much more expensive. There is no way to store cars in clubhouse and there are top tier apartments at 200k (Del Piero, Alta st.) that can hold anything you want and located much better. Clubhouse mods are beyond overpriced.

 

 

Don't repeat my mistakes, don't get this crap. Do Vehicle cargo, VIP jobs, contracts if you like them, heists, anything but not Biker business.

 

However, if you can get a crew of 2-4 and 2-4 millions free you may give it a shot just for a variety.

 

I have to agree with a lot of the issues brought up here. The money paid could be a little better.

 

One of the most annoying for me are those Post Op vans. My God, they are infuriating. What's most annoying is when LJT says "Okay. We're attempting some DISCRETION here by pretending we're the postal service..."

 

The game then proceeds to blast your location all over the map to every single player. So much for discretion.

 

Man... You want this to pay more too!!!... First I/E, now here... I'm guessing, what, $5.5m for a large warehouse next...

 

Or maybe you'll be on the heists threads demanding double, or even triple pay all the time... Jesus... The game pays well, very well... If you play it...

 

Radical, right?!!!

[Geisterfaust]

@KWF1981 clubhouse mods = clubhouse modifications, not a vehicle modifications. Smh

 

I stand corrected on the matter of production in missions, either it is a change or just my bad. However, I believe Biker Business is one of the worst in terms of open world game design, compared to Vehicle export because you're forced to drive slow ass vehicles around the map, there is no freedom of choice. And it's a lot of bother: time when register to avoid 9k fee, time when you need to sell to avoid 3 vehicles or always keep supplies on the low.

 

 

As of right now there are messages that idling ceases production, that I can't check. Is it true?

Edit: thanks for update

Edited June 12, 2017 by hei3enberg

[GTASA-Pilot]

 

 

Yes, SOME biker businesses are definitely worth it.

 

However, I would advise you to wait for gunrunning. Word is it is more profitable than any of the businesses right now (CEO or Biker).

 

On the flip side, if you feel you have more than enough money to blow, you should definitely get the biker business. Coke and meth generate some really good money. Weed and cash generate okay money.

 

They're all passive too so you just buy supplies and leave your player idle or play other things.

Idling is not an option anymore as far as I know. Idling will stop the production in the business.

 

 

The security camera method still works. I tried it recently and production still continued.

 

You're actuallly right, I tried this last night and idling with security cameras still worked thankfully. Thank you for confirming this. However, so TV is the only thing that got patched but what about the risk that the security cameras gets patched too in a future patch? More importantly, how come that they patched only TV's but not security cameras? Didn't they know about the security cameras method or did they leave it on purpose? If someone could give me answers to these question I would be thankful

[Tokasmoka]

No because the non stop spamming of calls from LTJ is enough for you to quit playing altogether.

[Lonely-Martin]

@KWF1981 clubhouse mods = clubhouse modifications, not a vehicle modifications. Smh

 

I stand corrected on the matter of production in missions, either it is a change or just my bad. However, I believe Biker Business is one of the worst in terms of open world game design, compared to Vehicle export because you're forced to drive slow ass vehicles around the map, there is no freedom of choice. And it's a lot of bother: time when register to avoid 9k fee, time when you need to sell to avoid 3 vehicles or always keep supplies on the low.

 

 

As of right now there are messages that idling ceases production, that I can't check. Is it true?

Edit: thanks for update

My bad on the customs thing... Lol...

 

For me, I fill the supply bar with 3 or 4 jobs, then let that rot until I'm ready basically... Filling the supply bar full once only produces around 2 bars of supplies,

so I don't need to keep tabs on it... If you get me...

 

Anyhow, I'm not out to change ya mind buddy, to be able to pick and choose our own game is an awesome feature of GTA:O, players tend to find their groove and get the cash somehow... This mainly is just to help as many as possible like me. After much grief, and after exhausting other elements of online, I wanted a fresh challenge, and I enjoyed running this stuff after a while...

 

Peace.