Zello Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 On 11/16/2021 at 8:40 PM, BLOOD said: That will be a great acquisition. WB Interactive could be worth $4 billion so cash and stock deal. Imagine Take Two owning Rocksteady and Rockstar BLOOD 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VCPR Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 On 1/10/2022 at 2:17 PM, Spider-Vice said: This is quite a biggie, not only they get a huge advantage in the mobile industry now, but they also made an absolute 4D chess move with NaturalMotion. NM was bought by Zynga in 2014, Rockstar have been using NM's tech since GTA IV, now T2 buys Zynga which means they own NaturalMotion and all of their assets. Looks like they intend to keep the mobile cash cow separate from the rest, it might be their way of mitigating gaps between their core AAA games from their core studios, and might be a good sign they don't wanna meddle with their core studios too much in terms of monetisation and "experiments", leaving that for the ever-profitable mobile division. Except the division behind Euphoria was closed in 2011, so... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zello Posted January 12 Share Posted January 12 (edited) 4 hours ago, VCPR Official said: Except the division behind Euphoria was closed in 2011, so... But now they own the code which is what matters. Since they own it they can use it again. It’s similar to how iRacing started they got the code from an old nascar game. This is definitely a great move for 2K. Since NaturalMotion developed backbreaker and Take Two wants to make NFL games again. Now that they own the code I hope that they can use it for the NFL 2K revival. Edited January 12 by Zello BLOOD and Ivan1997GTA 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zapper Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 (edited) Edit : Ok, game's on! Welcoming the Incredible Teams and Legendary Franchises of Activision Blizzard to Microsoft Gaming - Xbox Wire Edited January 18 by Zapper BLOOD, Mister Pink and Mexicola9302 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 It's confirmed, they're acquiring Acti Blizz. Wonder if anti-trust stuff will come into play here, but I imagine they're confident. By far away the biggest industry acquisition ever, it's something like 5x as big as the next biggest. The state of the industry right now is crazy, I'm not sure if it's good or bad, Xbox owners will say good but I've always thought independence in the industry is important even at publisher level, so I'm inclined to say it's not a good thing for the health of the industry. That being said, Blizzard potentially getting their freedom back could be incredibly exciting. May see Blizz games come to Steam as well? Rotary, Ivan1997GTA, Adrenalist and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rotary Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 (edited) 18 minutes ago, Jason said: May see Blizz games come to Steam as well? Future releases will most likely make their way to steam. It will be interesting to see the impact in console sales, since quite a lot of people buy a console, just to play the yearly cod and fifa games. Edited January 18 by Rotary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grichka Bogdanoff Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 Omg such a good news that my favourite megacorp is buying as many gaming publisher and developing studios as possible! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zello Posted January 18 Share Posted January 18 @BLOOD where the f*ck is @BLOOD? he lives for this sh*t. He loves seeing mergers and acquisitions and companies being acquired. I think he heard the news and had a stroke BLOOD 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adrenalist Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 Because commercials. That's why gamepass seems too good to be true. That's why digital-only is important. Don't let the environmental arguments fool you even though they do have merit. People are basically being manipulated by environmental concerns to introduce commercials in their gaming life. Physical media needs to die before forced commercials can take place. How long would it take to generate 70 billion in ad revenue if forced commercials were a thing? MS still has some work to do, but they're making rapid headway. Probably not much more than a decade before physical media will be out and forced commercials in our games will be in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pedinhuh Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 That's a incredible win for Microsoft because now, amongst all the devs that they own there is King, the dev that made and is now making bank from Candy Crush. 70b may seem like a ungodly amount of money, but that was actually a very cheap purchase considering the sheer amount of money to be made from King's game alone. I do wonder what this will entail for CoD and WoW though. BLOOD 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLOOD Posted January 20 Author Share Posted January 20 On 1/18/2022 at 10:52 PM, Zello said: @BLOOD where the f*ck is @BLOOD? he lives for this sh*t. He loves seeing mergers and acquisitions and companies being acquired. I think he heard the news and had a stroke I became speechless LOL...This deal is the biggest in gaming ever. Zello 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zello Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 5 hours ago, BLOOD said: I became speechless LOL...This deal is the biggest in gaming ever. Remember when you said Activision is acquiring Take Two BLOOD 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zapper Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 (edited) More like - Quote Our desire to keep Call of Duty on PlayStation (if you let us put Game Pass on your machine). Call me cynical but now I'm getting more and more convinced that MS will try to use CoD as leverage to get Game Pass into the PlayStation ecosystem. Edited January 20 by Zapper autocorrect fail Zello and BLOOD 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zello Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 I wonder how that phone call went. Jim Ryan was probably sweating like sh*t Zapper 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KiTTYReCkless Posted January 29 Share Posted January 29 (edited) With a lot of discussion revolving around NFT's, I had this brilliant idea of selling off my physical copies of games as physical/ real life NFT's. Has anyone heard about this or tried it? Thinking about throwing some games on FB marketplace to see if any sucker, um "entrepreneur" would pay me a few grand for a personal copy of Cold war or borderlands 3... Unlike digital NFT's these copies are unique blue ray discs that you can hold in your hand and put into a PS4 and play on any account you wish. Both on and offline and you can enjoy a robust single player experience decades after online servers are killed. Edited January 29 by KiTTYReCkless JetNormalGuy, Mister Pink, Bob Loblaw and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister Pink Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 All this NFT talk is really wrecking my head. I think it's a cancerous and predatory. Only crypto bros and people recognized artists stand to gain. Maybe the companies that are pushing them like Ubisoft. STALKER 2 devs were including them until fans hit back. Ubisoft reacted to gamers pushing back by saying "don't get it" and will continue to push for them. Thankfully big voices in the industry game news like YongYea are very critical and vocal about it. Also Phil Spencer wasn't speaking highly of them... Ivan1997GTA and Bob Loblaw 2 𝙼𝚄𝚂𝙸𝙲 𝙽𝙾𝙽 𝚂𝚃𝙾𝙿 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KiTTYReCkless Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 (edited) This is truly an untapped highly exploitable market. We as consumers should start selling all our used goods as physical NFT's. Why pay thousands of dollars for a .jpeg, digital land or "digits" on a helmet or weapon that's only useful in that game or on the blockchain? Used physical media for example is 100% unique. No single game disc is like another. Every copy has a story, a history to tell. Every scratch! Even broken discs! How did it get broken? No one will ever know and that is a unique story that you can pass down to generations. All unique items have the potential to be legendary. Some may end up in museums thousands of years from now! No one would know! Imagine those stories. These are all truly unique. Technically we can even expand out and everything that we own could be sold as NFT's? Why limit this to the digital realm and for example, sell a slice of bread as an NFT? No two slices are the same! If we as a community flood the market with truly unique one a kind items maybe developers and the mass population of the public will see this is all complete bull sh*t and we can get back to making quality, Triple A games and products again. This started out as a sh*t post, but please do imagine if we all got together and made physical media and items great again and maybe turn a profit in the time being.. I do feel like we could use sarcasm to stick it to these corrupt businesses. lol We as a community would have to come together and I for one don't see that happening, but it would be freakin funny. Edited January 30 by KiTTYReCkless Ivan1997GTA and Mister Pink 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 There's a quote/interview from someone who talks about "gamers don't get it" being an absolutely horrendous excuse but I cannot remember who said it or where. But essentially... it's an absolutely horrendous excuse that is essentially saying we're just dumb and they know better, when in fact the opposite is true. People know when they're getting fleeced or scammed. Commander S 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister Pink Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 11 hours ago, KiTTYReCkless said: This started out as a sh*t post, but please do imagine if we all got together and made physical media and items great again and maybe turn a profit in the time being.. I do feel like we could use sarcasm to stick it to these corrupt businesses. lol We as a community would have to come together and I for one don't see that happening, but it would be freakin funny. I appreciate what your saying, even in a light-hearted context, but the very core existence of NFT's is that they're digital and for the metaverse, and we're not going to win an analogue vs digital war. I'm all for making physical items great, even collectible to try suck some of the attention away. Actually, as I type this out the more I think of your idea, the more I like it haha. Actual printed images that are named and registered. They can even have a serial number on the blockchain so when it changes hands it's logged or something. I don't know. I don't think we're going to curb the current trend of NFT's. I'm actually not against the concept of them, I'm just against the implementation of them in videogame space. I'm in the creative industry, and it would be nice to do some digital art and sell it but I don't want that stuff in videogames. I don't know what it is yet but the design of games will change to facilitate NFT's. I'm sure it will creep into gameplay elements. Next thing you know, you can't escape in a videogame for a few hours without being reminded that you can buy something or there's some crypto NFT bro trying to hassle you to buy some image of a downs syndrome cat with sunglasses smoking a blunt you for $5,253. DJ Arrt 1 𝙼𝚄𝚂𝙸𝙲 𝙽𝙾𝙽 𝚂𝚃𝙾𝙿 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 hmMmmMmmMMmMMmmm, time to speculate. Ubi, Squeenix, etc are easy targets of speculation as we all know, so beyond those whose maybe a possibility? Publishers: SEGA and MS have had a close relationship in recent years with some SEGA owned games coming to Games Pass day 1 and with the constant rumours of MS acquiring them this one seems inevitable. Warner Bros. Games was publicly up for sale for a good while but never found any buyers, maybe it'll finally happen. Publishers may be turned off by the fact WB don't own the licenses to the games they're known for. Avalanche Studios Group, creators of Just Cause, RAGE2 and upcoming Xbox exclusive Contraband. Bethesda also published RAGE2 so there's a relationship there too. Not sure how viable this one would be due to ASG being owned by a parent company, but the Contraband and Beth connection is worth pointing this one out. Paradox Interactive, they've been discussed a lil before in this thread or others but they are a productive studio who look to have a good relationship with MS with some of their games coming to GP day 1 and numerous others on there. They fill their niche on PC very well on paper seem like a sensible fit for Games Pass. 505 Games. Another publisher that's a bit like Paradox, they have a niche and fil it well but they have published some AAA stuff too like Control. Lot of their games have had runs on GP. Independent studios: CDPR are the first to come to mind for me here. Cyberpunk was riddled with issues but it also brought a lot of internal issues to surface. They don't lack money or investment so they're in no financial danger but you can never say never anymore. They've had a good relationship with MS for a few years now as well. Larian Games. One of the best indie studios on the planet who are arguably responsible for the revival of the CRPG genre with the Divinity Original Sin games. They aren't huge but their talent is undeniable and given more resources who knows what they could come up with. Battlestate Games, devs of Escape From Tarkov. Massively popular on PC and there's undoubtedly demand for it on console from publishers if they can get around potential control issues (it's a very mouse+kb game). Crytek. They go bankrupt every other month so you'd think they'd be open to acquisition, Crysis 4 just got announced and The Hunt: Showdown remains popular I believe, they also bring with them CryEngine, for better or for worse. Zello 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grichka Bogdanoff Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 I don't even want to think about it. It's grim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 At this point I'm not much fussed what happens with the big publishers and even the big studios, they're pretty much all ran like garbage so I find it hard to care about those deals. I do worry that studios like Larian will get picked up though, their independence allows them to do literally whatever they want and that comes out in their games and while it sounds like MS and Sony are giving their studios near independence genuine actual independence is still massively important. I don't think we'd get a Disco Elysium from a MS/Sony/Nintendo that's for sure. smokeless6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DEADWOODZ Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 (edited) Been playing quite a bit of Tarkov lately, where the hell would you even begin to port that over to console with all those fricken key binds? Also, hasn't it been in beta for like four or five years? Edited February 1 by DEADWOODZ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 1 hour ago, DEADWOODZ said: Been playing quite a bit of Tarkov lately, where the hell would you even begin to port that over to console with all those fricken key binds? Yea that's the major stumbling block but when there's a lot of money involved they'll make it work... somehow. I do think that Tarkov style gameplay is if not the next "BIG" thing it's the next thing for console shooters. We're already seeing a bunch of the AAA devs dabble in the formula slightly with stuff like BF 2042's mode and the new Ghost Recon f2p game (forgot the exact name). 1 hour ago, DEADWOODZ said: Also, hasn't it been in beta for like four or five years? In the same way Warframe's been in beta since 2013. It's a lie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zello Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 4 hours ago, Jason said: hmMmmMmmMMmMMmmm, time to speculate. Ubi, Squeenix, etc are easy targets of speculation as we all know, so beyond those whose maybe a possibility? Publishers: SEGA and MS have had a close relationship in recent years with some SEGA owned games coming to Games Pass day 1 and with the constant rumours of MS acquiring them this one seems inevitable. Warner Bros. Games was publicly up for sale for a good while but never found any buyers, maybe it'll finally happen. Publishers may be turned off by the fact WB don't own the licenses to the games they're known for. Avalanche Studios Group, creators of Just Cause, RAGE2 and upcoming Xbox exclusive Contraband. Bethesda also published RAGE2 so there's a relationship there too. Not sure how viable this one would be due to ASG being owned by a parent company, but the Contraband and Beth connection is worth pointing this one out. Paradox Interactive, they've been discussed a lil before in this thread or others but they are a productive studio who look to have a good relationship with MS with some of their games coming to GP day 1 and numerous others on there. They fill their niche on PC very well on paper seem like a sensible fit for Games Pass. 505 Games. Another publisher that's a bit like Paradox, they have a niche and fil it well but they have published some AAA stuff too like Control. Lot of their games have had runs on GP. Independent studios: CDPR are the first to come to mind for me here. Cyberpunk was riddled with issues but it also brought a lot of internal issues to surface. They don't lack money or investment so they're in no financial danger but you can never say never anymore. They've had a good relationship with MS for a few years now as well. Larian Games. One of the best indie studios on the planet who are arguably responsible for the revival of the CRPG genre with the Divinity Original Sin games. They aren't huge but their talent is undeniable and given more resources who knows what they could come up with. Battlestate Games, devs of Escape From Tarkov. Massively popular on PC and there's undoubtedly demand for it on console from publishers if they can get around potential control issues (it's a very mouse+kb game). Crytek. They go bankrupt every other month so you'd think they'd be open to acquisition, Crysis 4 just got announced and The Hunt: Showdown remains popular I believe, they also bring with them CryEngine, for better or for worse. Warner Bros, Avalanche, and maybe CDPR but I doubt CDPR gets sold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 Yea CDPR's an odd one I guess. Getting bought by MS/Sony would go against what they traditionally stand for as a studio but internally they're a complete disaster of a studio, which is a big reason why Acti Blizz became available, so I wouldn't be surprised especially now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zello Posted February 1 Share Posted February 1 You think they could split some companies up? I'd like to see Embracer group sell off Koch Media and Volition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 Don't see the Embracer group selling off some of their studios (especially their biggest and most well known) seeing as they're playing the same game MS is. They're getting craycray with the sheer amount of studios they own but I sorta like what Embracer are doing, they're supporting and funding studios that are making AA experiences which the industry needs more of. BLOOD 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pedinhuh Posted February 2 Share Posted February 2 I want to see who else Sony pretends to purchase now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLOOD Posted February 7 Author Share Posted February 7 Earnings today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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