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Thanks for the response Valenta, I did not know that. I guess I learn something new everyday!

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Thanks for the response Valenta, I did not know that. I guess I learn something new everyday!

No problem.

Anyone ever heard this noise?

 

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Do you guys know what's up with the mobile phones and planes? Why some companies don't let you using while others don't give a rats?

 

The other day I was thinking about which probably was my worst flying experience ever. We were going back from Sabha to Tripoli, after having spent about two weeks in the desert, and consequently I was friggin tired and just wanted to sleep. So we took a seat in the plane and, surprisingly for me, the whole plane (which, by the way, was full of people) was using the god damn mobile phone. So put yourself in my place, trying to take a nap in a hell of uncomfortable seat, and with dozens of phones ringing and doing annoying noises behind, in front... everywhere! confused.gif The thing is that we flew about 600 km or so and we didn't crash or have any problem, so where does the obsession (and I'd even say 'myth') respecting the risks of using mobile phones in flight? (apart of the annoying they could be for the other passengers)

 

Also, have you had any bad flying experience?

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Do you guys know what's up with the mobile phones and planes? Why some companies don't let you using while others don't give a rats?

Somebody with more knowledge on the topic, please feel free to correct me, but some people believe that cell phones interfer with the plane's systems, but some airlines insist that there is no proof to this and they allow passengers to use their phones. I hope this cleared some things up

 

As for your question about bad flight experiences, I've only flown a couple of flights and they were all fine. I've flown U.S Airways four times and thought it was good. I actually had a better time flying AirTran and Southwest merely because the flight attendants were laid back and fun

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I've flown U.S Airways four times and thought it was good. I actually had a better time flying AirTran and Southwest merely because the flight attendants were laid back and fun.

I've only flown with Flyglobespan, and that was from Glasgow International to Orlando Sanford International Airport and return in 2006. I can't remember much about it. I do remember the jet-lag, though.

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I've only flown with Flyglobespan, and that was from Glasgow International to Orlando Sanford International Airport and return in 2006. I can't remember much about it. I do remember the jet-lag, though.

You know come to think of it, I don't really remember my first plane rides as well. I flew U.S Airways the first time back in 2004 and by that point I was 7 turning 8. I actually spent hours a month ago trying to figure out what type of plane I flew on the trip back to Philadelphia from Orlando by analyzing a picture of me in a Disney world scrapbook of me in the cockpit (the pilots let me sit in there after we landed, which is why I liked U.S Airways biggrin.gif ) I eventually determined it to be a Boeing 737-300 or 737-400, and did that feel satisfying the finally come to that conclusion smile.gif

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I eventually determined it to be a Boeing 737-300 or 737-400, and did that feel satisfying the finally come to that conclusion smile.gif

The airliner I flew on was a Boeing 767-306/ER.

 

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I'm a frequent flyer, long-haul not just domestic or regional. Nowadays as my homebase is in London, I fly British Airways to the US and Asia. BA CityFlyer from London City Airport takes me to Amsterdam and Barcelona for work. I used to fly United from London to LA quarterly from '07 to '11. Spent all my birthdays during that time on a United flight. Even had thanksgiving dinner on a United flight from Chicago to San Diego (business class so the dinner wasn't half bad, the big fat turkey sandwiches and soup was surprisingly good). Here in Asia I tend to spend my weekends home in Taiwan so I'm on a Mandarin Airlines E190 every friday evening and monday morning. I love the Embraer E-Jets though so I enjoy my time in them. I've also flown on the Emirates and Singapore Airlines A380s several times, choosing to fly via Dubai and Singapore instead of my usual Shanghai/Beijing/Hong Kong transit points. f*ck, I might as well just list out the airlines I've flown. It'll cut down on my incessant rambling.

 

- Air France

- Alitalia

- British Airways

- BA Cityflyer

- Cathay Pacific

- China Airlines

- China Southern

- Continental (before the merger)

- Dragonair

- Emirates

- EVA Air

- Germanwings

- Hong Kong Airlines

- KLM

- KLM Cityhopper

- Lufthansa*

- Oasis Hong Kong Airlines (defunct)

- Mandarin Airlines

- Singapore Airlines

- Swissair

- Thai Airways

- Trans-Asia Airways

- United Airlines

- United Express

- Virgin Atlantic

- Xiamen Airlines

 

*I spend half my time in the air and the only time I've ever had my luggage misplaced was with Lufthansa from London to Stuttgart. In their defence though, they did find it and delivered it to me later that day.

 

@GTAfiveFan: Most consumer electronics won't affect essential control systems in an aircraft, I've even kept my phone on for an entire duration of the flight. I was actually flying with my dad a couple weeks ago and he didn't have his seatbelt on the entire flight and I had my phone on. It was like we were tempting fate lol. Kidding aside, the FAA are relaxing the rules a little so pretty soon you'll be able to use your ipads and kindles during take off, taxi, and landing.

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@GTAfiveFan: Most consumer electronics won't affect essential control systems in an aircraft, I've even kept my phone on for an entire duration of the flight. I was actually flying with my dad a couple weeks ago and he didn't have his seatbelt on the entire flight and I had my phone on. It was like we were tempting fate lol. Kidding aside, the FAA are relaxing the rules a little so pretty soon you'll be able to use your ipads and kindles during take off, taxi, and landing.

Well, the last time I flew, going back from Jfk Airport to the Madrid-Barajas Airport, with American Airlines some people were using notebooks. By other hand, I remember there was some kind of football or another sport team in the plane.

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List of airlines I've flown on (from memory):

 

• Qantas

• Ansett Airlines

• Virgin Blue

• Singapore Airlines

• Olympic Airways

• Emirates

• Austrian Airlines

• Lufthanza

• JAT Airways

 

Mind you, every flight I've been on was paid for by my parents when we went on family holidays; my first flight was when I was nearly three in 1996 when we flew back to Europe, so unfortunately I can't remember what happened on that flight but I'm sure I annoyed at least one adult that day. biggrin.gif

 

This Saturday and Sunday will actually be the first plane trips I'm paying for out of my own pocket; I'm flying up to Sydney and back with a few friends to watch a football game. My first plane trip since 2008, so I'm actually excited. biggrin.gif

 

EDIT: Just remembered that we flew with Cathay once.

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Qantas reminded me, I used to fly Air New Zealand quite a lot pre-'08 from London to Hong Kong.

 

Stefche I guess you're in Australia? It makes sense you've flown Cathay. What did you think of it?

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Loved it. We flew with them once, in business class in 2007 and I found it more comfortable, and found the service to be friendlier and better, than that on Emirates. Last time we flew with Emirates they miss-placed our luggage and booked our seats on the wrong flight on the way back (second part of our return leg, from Dubai to Melbourne). Dad's luggage ended up in Moscow, mum's in Honolulu, but luckily it was in Melbourne by the time we arrived.

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- Air France

- Alitalia

- British Airways

- BA Cityflyer

- Cathay Pacific

- China Airlines

- China Southern

- Continental (before the merger)

- Dragonair

- Emirates

- EVA Air

- Germanwings

- Hong Kong Airlines

- KLM

- KLM Cityhopper

- Lufthansa*

- Oasis Hong Kong Airlines (defunct)

- Mandarin Airlines

- Singapore Airlines

- Swissair

- Thai Airways

- Trans-Asia Airways

- United Airlines

- United Express

- Virgin Atlantic

- Xiamen Airlines

 

 

God, I'm jealous.

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Your not the only one who's jealous Valenta haha. One goal of mine is to fly all of the major countries flag carrier airlines and fly other big airlines like American Airlines, Delta Air Lines, or United Airlines. A couple years back I would have laughed at the thought of me wanting to fly, but now I realize how safe it really is smile.gif

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Pff, personally I don't really like flying in commercial flights. Most of the times I've done that were long distances and most of the flight was over the sea, so there wasn't much to see. I guess that if I could have flown in first class the flight experiences would have been somehow better tounge.gif

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On the topic of airlines, what are some of your favorite liveries?

 

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I consider the Lufthansa and the new United livery similar, and I love them both because they seem very business oriented and clasy

 

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I love the new American livery, I like how its plain all the way through until the tail

 

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I think this is a different livery, which is good. Also, I like how they are still using MD-11's commercially, and the KLM livery looks nice on it

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British Airways Landor

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A timeless classic, that livery.

 

British Airways Landor Experimental Silver-Top:

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Qantas Wunala Dreaming:

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Malaysia Airlines Hibscus:

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China Airlines Dynasty Dreamliner:

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To be honest, the 747 pictures you posted are not really my style, I dont really like the liveries that are really colorful and have a lot going on. But British Airways always had nice liveries, I can't say I dislike one of them smile.gif

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Wow, I didn't know Pepsi made a deal with Air France, though it makes more sense than my initial thought of Pepsi owning and operating a Concorde biggrin.gif

On another note, I sometimes like the sports liveries

 

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U.S Airways A319 Philadelphia Eagles

 

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AirTran 717 Atlanta Falcons

 

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U.S Airways A319 Arizona Cardinals

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Wow, I didn't know Pepsi made a deal with Air France, though it makes more sense than my initial thought of Pepsi owning and operating a Concorde  biggrin.gif

It cost $500 million and lasted for only 10 days. It was unveiled the day before I was born, as well.

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Wow, I didn't know Pepsi made a deal with Air France, though it makes more sense than my initial thought of Pepsi owning and operating a Concorde  biggrin.gif

It cost $500 million and lasted for only 10 days. It was unveiled the day before I was born, as well.

Do you by any chance know how it worked out for Pepsi? Did sales boost or did they waste $500 million for a 10 day deal? I'm going out on a limb here and guessing it failed miserably haha. And it's fun finding out weird facts about your birthday icon14.gif

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The current JAT Airways liveries are disgusting and bland, but the older ones back from the time of Yugoslavia looked beautiful, in my opinion. I would've loved to fly on one.

 

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They had that livery from the 50s right until the late 90s; I think those two photos were taken in the 'mid 80s. My dad showed me a photo he took once when he was going back there on holiday around 1984 or 1985 of one of the 727s parked next to the terminal at Split Airport. I'll have a bit of a search now to see if I can find it and share it with you guys.

 

EDIT: Found it. Turns out it was a DC-10.

 

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To be honest, the 747 pictures you posted are not really my style, I dont really like the liveries that are really colorful and have a lot going on. But British Airways always had nice liveries, I can't say I dislike one of them  smile.gif

Those three 747s were all one offs. They now all carry their respective carriers' standard liveries.

 

 

Also, I like how they are still using MD-11's commercially, and the KLM livery looks nice on it.

Not for much longer. They'll all be phased out by the end of 2015.

 

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Also, I like how they are still using MD-11's commercially, and the KLM livery looks nice on it.

Not for much longer. They'll all be phased out by the end of 2015.

Ugh, don't remind me about that sad.gif It's too bad, it's such a nice looking plane, but I guess the airlines have to do whatever they can to save money

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Heres the footage of one of the B29 superfortresses named Kee Bird that crashlanded in Greenland, and was then found again almost completely okay. They replaced the engines and it worked, it was ready to be flown to some airport but unfortunatelly this rare plane caught fire and was completely destroyed. The wreck was left there on the icy lake and is since the early 90s stayed there, some times submerged, sometimes covered with snow and visible.

 

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It's amazing how it could survive that many years facing such an extreme climate condition. I wonder if the cockpit still worked without changing anything.

 

Kinda reminds me to a B-52 bomber that also crashed in Greenland with some nuclear bombs inside, back in 1968 (see Thule Accident). Army NBC recovery teams were deployed to clean the area, as a result of a leak of the nuclear load of the bombs.

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Great post Sup3rman, a nice short documentary. It was depressing watching the video after reading your post because I knew all the work those guys put into the plane was just going to go up in flames. The B-29 truly was a key part in WWII and it's a shame that they couldn't get that one in the air.

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'Glacier Girl' taxiing back after a wonderful performance at the 2010 California Capital Air Show. This aircraft spent 50 years stuck in Greenland before being recovered in 1992 and fully restored in 2002.
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Yeah i read about Glacier girl just today...just marvellous that its in perfect working order. The first flight after restoration did have an emergency landing but still.

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