malcolm_tucker Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 I was watching Broughy's podcast thing yesterday and they touched upon an interesting point I hadn't really thought about before; You can only make about $200k/hr at most grinding legitimately, and you can buy $500k for £6 (UK). UK minimum wage is £7.20/hr so grinding irl and buying shark cards will earn you twice as much as grinding in-game. You need to earn $500k/hr+ before it starts to make sense. It's a stupid dilemma that's really made me question what I'm doing, I grind a fair bit but I've also spent about £50 on shark cards. Grinding isn't fun, but at the same time, shark cards are too expensive (even if it works out 'cheaper' time-wise) and I'm currently on sick-leave with an injured back so I don't have the luxury of picking overtime hours to fund my GTA lifestyle. Personally I would much rather work for an hour than grind doing something I don't enjoy for an hour. So what does everyone else think? Grind until you've got a headache and your fed up whilst sticking it to R* for their extortionate prices, or, don't be such a lazy prick, get out and help your employers business, help the economy grow, get some fresh air, do the normal things that humans should do, all the while pandering to R*'s sh*t and throwing all your money down the drain? Arrows to Athens 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SHADOW OPS Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 Are you over 18? Decide how you spend your money. Don't let anyone tell you how to spend money. SilverRST, Dragon_Of_Tragedy, M*A*R*I*N*A and 11 others 14 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockstar_Fanboy Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 Grinding is a state of mind. Never grind, as this is a game one does for fun. Why make it like ditch digging? Lonely-Martin, IamCourtney, rendub and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbatron Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 (edited) My logic is I enjoy the game. I like Heists, CEO and Biker stuff for their own sake. I just happen to like the GTA $s they give me to buy stuff in game. If I didn't enjoy the game play, I wouldn't buy Shark Cards, I'd stop playing the game! I agree economically on my real life salary, it's not worth me grinding for GTA $s, but for me it's not a grind, it's fun. Edited May 9, 2017 by Jimbatron dieseltech20, Classique, Opzeker and 10 others 13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alec Skorpio Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 (edited) Honestly, I tend to have enough money as long as I get about 100k a day. I can play for a good hour on any mode and get around that no problem. (or these days pull it off with Import/Export in a span of about a half hour solo)Only time I ever buy a shark card is if it is during one of those promotions where you get double the cash, and even then I've only done it once, used my work credit card reward points on it and then just bought a yacht. If I really REALLY wanted something, I'd buy a shark card again. But I really don't think I'll ever need that much cash that quickly like I did when the yachts came out. Edited May 9, 2017 by Alec Skorpio Lonely-Martin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deadx23 Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 If you have hours upon hours of free time to play the same jobs over and over, grinding is the way. If you have money to burn, buy all you need. Or just grind and buy,buy and grind,grind grind grind <Sigh> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malcolm_tucker Posted May 9, 2017 Author Share Posted May 9, 2017 Are you over 18? Decide how you spend your money. Don't let anyone tell you how to spend money. I do decide myself thank you. I'm interested in having a discussion about it rather than finding people to tell me what to do Grinding is a state of mind. Never grind, as this is a game one does for fun. Why make it like ditch digging? The problem is that you can't really do what you want to do without first either grinding or buying shark cards to get to the stage where you are a CEO etc Jenkiiii 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VulcanFanatic Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 I wish working for a living was as easy as grinding on GTA. The rewards are becoming rich on GTA,being able to have everything you want and have a feeling of accomplishment that you have achieved something. Yes, you could buy shark cards, but you don't get rp that way that shows others that you have been at this awhile when they see your level, assuming your level isn't modded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dock Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 (edited) I dont think it matters to be honest. If you have fun, i.e. enjoy playing the game, however it is you fund your character, then its fine. There will* always be positives and negatives to both sides of the fight. I personally have no stand on the issue. For those who grind, you're missing out if you're not doing the pacific standard finale repeat trick, thats all I have to say. Beat the odds of the 200k/hr by a large margin with that. Edited May 9, 2017 by LevelDockSix Maxxeine 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarimboHanky Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 i dont grind, i play for fun and somehow still end up with over 2million every week... is grinding worth it? maybe is buying cashcard worth it? not to me but hey to each their own, the reality is that with over a 70 weeks of 2X events, i dont see how/why people still struggle to get money. -KM- and dieseltech20 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IamCourtney Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 It all depends what you mean by "grinding." When I say I'm grinding, I mean I'm playing with maximum efficiency in mind, trying to wring every dollar possible out of every minute. I enjoy this playstyle sometimes, other times I'm not in the mood and so do not grind. However, when some people say "grinding" they seem to mean gritting their teeth and playing a way they don't enjoy for longer than they want to and all I can say in this case is that its NEVER worth it. Buy a Shark Card if you feel the value is worthwhile or do something else because life is too short to let yourself turn a videogame into toil. idonknowhow, Semaj 2JZ♢ and Yinepi 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sagrawa Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 Kinda depends on what you enjoy doing in game, how good you're at it, how much time you play, and in the end if that is enough to buy all the stuff you want to have. I enjoy most parts of the game and make about $120k per hour whilst just having fun, and play enough hours to be able to buy everything I want. If you like playing all the good money-making stuff over and over again, you will never be in need of extra money. If you like to only race a lot and have a nice vehicle collection, for example, a shark card is a very valid option if you don't play 20 hours a week and win every race. Simply put: If you don't have enough money ig to buy the stuff you want and it feels like grinding to get it, buy a shark card. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkSavageDeathlyCloud Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 Yea, but as extra con you are giving real money to what i currently consider the second most sh*tty gaming company at the moment i ever bought games off, with nr1 being konami for being responsible for a lot of stupid sh*t ! Besides that, the wages in belgium are slightly higher then that. DoomAkuma and A.O.D.88 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Semaj 2JZ♢ Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 (edited) Can I ask why you feel the need to buy everything the game has to offer or have enough money to buy it all? Why can't you be satisfied with the affordable things or just whatever? For everyone with the OP's mindset; Stop with the ego, the circle jerk and the keeping up with the Jones'. Play the damn game! If you aren't enjoying it, then stop playing. It's literally simpler than salt. *edit: With being a CEO/VIP work like HH, and a VW, sourcing only high end cars, it's possible to make 300k+/hour, solo. Edited May 9, 2017 by Semaj 2JZ♢ Yinepi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wizooord Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 never bought a shark card, made over 400 legit millions, never once felt like a grind (well, once, did 15m in 2 days when 50% ceo sell bonus was on hehe) and that's just because i can always find a way to enjoy it even if i'm dirt broke because it's just a fun game to play Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unicornace Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 This is actually an interesting topic, gotta say though the money you earn through the day irl in work is worth more than the $ or £ it actually is due to the fact that it covers rent and daily living expenses. On topic I'm a day one player so bought the game twice as many of us have but I've also got more play out of this that any other game by a wide margin. I've lived the grind now and again and also bought a shark card ...the 7 mil one. I did it because I felt that the forever evil rockstar had earnt it content wise. It does make me wonder what the hell they're going to introduce for the rdr multiplayer, could you even spend 7 mil in the old west? malcolm_tucker 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JuniorChubb Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 Are you over 18? Decide how you spend your money. Don't let anyone tell you how to spend money. Couldn't have put it better myself, but I'll try to add to it... If money is not an issue by them cards, for some people (myself included) spending £10 for 1.25million GTA dollars is a waste of hard earned money, however if I earn't 4 or 5 times as much as I do I would gladly chuck some money away for Shark Cards and spent the grinding time doing what I wanted to do in Los Santos rather than what I needed to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lonely-Martin Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 (edited) It's only grinding if you don't enjoy the jobs, have a limited imagination, or no crew/friends to help maximise the benefits... With all that at hand, and time to play, 'the world is our oyster'... So they say... Of course, shark cards are a great way to allow the more casual player to enjoy everything in GTA, but for me personally, being surrounded by like-minded, having more time to play, and flexibility across the game as a whole, I vary everything around, I like to help low levels get that first couple of mil, and in turn, obviously, I get paid too. Along the way, I learn so much, I meet so many characters in this game, that, for me, just never gets boring... As soon as something does get over-played, I move on to other things, or with some new guys added to the mix. Just by enjoying this game with some enthusiasm can be more than enough, with common sense to attack favoured jobs that have 2x cash/RP too, then it just seems to fall into place... With respect to your response to another, saying you can't do what you want, like CEO without grinding first... I must disagree... From rank 1... Join races/contact missions, until rank 12, by which you'll earn at least $250k... Buy heist Apt. $200k... Heist through the board, add good heisters from here/in game along the way... Complete only your heists, in order, if possible, with the same team... The earnings, plus bonuses, up to 12.6m in bonuses for good, consistent teams... A very good start, granted, tricky for some to expect $10m Criminal Mastermind bonus early with little experience, but the other $2.6m is enough for an Office, Small w/h, vehicle w/h, and that's before you've repeat played a single job... Edited May 9, 2017 by KWF1981 Opzeker 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SHADOW OPS Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 If you're not having fun. Don't do it. Life's too short. YOLO Hermes!! and JuniorChubb 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JuniorChubb Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 Dude can you stop posting things I agree with, it feels unnatural... ALifeOfMisery 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SHADOW OPS Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 How am I to know you agree ahead of time? I have always said that. My friends and I like tiny racers a little bit. We will probably play it a few times a month. Don't let others tell you what to do. Like the fellow forum member who told me to slit my wrists for finding tiny racers decent. I used to match hatred with hatred. I have moved on. JuniorChubb 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xiled Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 I miss making $234,000 and hour from coveted. I made my millions way back before they nerfed the payouts and completely changed coveted even though those were actually legit money makers. There are more ways to make money now but they are time consuming and require a lot of money to "invest". Wish we had a mission creator so I could remake the original coveted. I would rather play the original coveted with the $18,000 payout instead of the new stiff in freemode. At least missions only are $200 to start vs spending a mission payout to buy crates. Nyamber and LightningLord 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 (edited) You don't need everything. All you need is a apartment, every weapon and every class of car if you enjoy racing. Edited May 9, 2017 by Guest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockstar_Fanboy Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 (edited) I do decide myself thank you. I'm interested in having a discussion about it rather than finding people to tell me what to do Grinding is a state of mind. Never grind, as this is a game one does for fun. Why make it like ditch digging? The problem is that you can't really do what you want to do without first either grinding or buying shark cards to get to the stage where you are a CEO etc This is perceived by some as a problem only because they are in a hurry to get fake digital sh*t. But being in a hurry doesn't make any sense. If you enjoy playing the game, then in time, you will make the money you need to slowly add those things. Buying them spread out allows you to appreciate the things that you acquire. If you don't enjoy the game enough to play it "that much," then do you really care to have those things anyway? You are acquiring the same sh*t everyone else has, and no one is impressed. Take if from someone who has just about everything in the game--no matter the item, after a few hours of playing with it, the novelty wears off (this is why rich people IRL become bored quickly too). And I would argue you appreciate things that you acquire over time and at a cost of some other items just a bit more. I know this is not the GTA way. It should be. Edited May 9, 2017 by Rockstar_Fanboy JuniorChubb, malcolm_tucker, IamCourtney and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaltyGTAFMember Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 never bought a shark card, made over 400 legit millions, never once felt like a grind (well, once, did 15m in 2 days when 50% ceo sell bonus was on hehe) and that's just because i can always find a way to enjoy it even if i'm dirt broke because it's just a fun game to play legit alright PwnageSoldier 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mach1bud Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 Neither grinding or Shark Cards are worth it in my opinion. Rockstar_Fanboy, Yinepi, A.O.D.88 and 3 others 6 Twitter - Instagram - Youtube - Social Club Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elfoam Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 Anyone can make 20mil this week on double RP hiests. It's about the How am I to know you agree ahead of time? I have always said that. My friends and I like tiny racers a little bit. We will probably play it a few times a month. Don't let others tell you what to do. Like the fellow forum member who told me to slit my wrists for finding tiny racers decent. I used to match hatred with hatred. I have moved on. Just reading those two words Tiny Races makes me vomit a little bit lol. I'm so impressed you have the fortitude to even load that up. Maibatsu545 and Nyamber 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SHADOW OPS Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 It's a shame you find a quirky video game option worse than someone telling an internet stranger to kill themselves. But hey who am I to judge? Lonely-Martin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lonely-Martin Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 @ Xiled... Contact missions are free to start, host or crew dude, another thought this on another thread very recently too... But they are free man, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkSavageDeathlyCloud Posted May 9, 2017 Share Posted May 9, 2017 never bought a shark card, made over 400 legit millions, never once felt like a grind (well, once, did 15m in 2 days when 50% ceo sell bonus was on hehe) and that's just because i can always find a way to enjoy it even if i'm dirt broke because it's just a fun game to play legit alright Possible it seems. Seems i made about the same number, also legit...well except for 2 mil once gifted by a script kid and afterwards removed by rockstar because i requested it to be....so yea...there is that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
