Do you want Rockstar to add Aircraft Carrier to Freemode ?

[DC4B18]

f*ck a carrier

[Rockstar_Fanboy]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Could we please not turn this into another thread about Jets being OP/nerfing them? There are plenty of other threads discussing this. Thank you in advance.

 

 

A thread asking for an aircraft carrier is intrinsically linked to the jet debate as it would obviously place more emphasis on jets in the game. Therefore it's perfectly reasonable for those that don't like jets to argue against it on this basis in the same thread.

 

 

Did you read OP, not really. I set it up so it would not change current balance (a conversation about changing the current balance has nothing to do with this). I am asking you nicely not to derail this thread (knowing there is nothing I can do to stop it, so I am asking).

[Milesinho]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Could we please not turn this into another thread about Jets being OP/nerfing them? There are plenty of other threads discussing this. Thank you in advance.

 

 

A thread asking for an aircraft carrier is intrinsically linked to the jet debate as it would obviously place more emphasis on jets in the game. Therefore it's perfectly reasonable for those that don't like jets to argue against it on this basis in the same thread.

 

 

Did you read OP, not really. I set it up so it would not change current balance (a conversation about changing the current balance has nothing to do with this). I am asking you nicely not to derail this thread (knowing there is nothing I can do to stop it, so I am asking).

 

Understand your point and I respect that, so I'll just leave my two objections here.

 

1. GTA is meant to be about being a criminal, not a military power.

 

2. The introduction of a carrier would inevitably increase the prevalence of jets in the game, even if that wasn't the intention.

 

For those reasons, I'm out

[Rockstar_Fanboy]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Understand your point and I respect that, so I'll just leave my two objections here.

 

1. GTA is meant to be about being a criminal, not a military power.

 

2. The introduction of a carrier would inevitably increase the prevalence of jets in the game, even if that wasn't the intention.

 

For those reasons, I'm out

 

 

Thanks for the respectful response. One thing to consider, is that, the way i set it up, I think it would pull jets from the city out to the ocean. This could reduce jet confrontations, at least for a percentage of the session, for two reasons:

 

1) more battles could end up occurring over the water, possibly to include more jet battles

2) the way I set it up, it probably takes longer to fly a jet back in then in does to have one spawned in at a helipad and driving over to get it. Even if it doesn't, you would have more notice of a jet arriving as it travels in from far out in the water than from a pad in the city (assuming they aren't off radar, which isn't really relevant since one could spawn one in at a pad then immediately go off radar).

 

So it could actually improve the balance, albeit, probably slightly.

 

But, I appreciate your input and understand both of your sentiments. Thanks for the great discussion!!!

[Haokizaru]

Not that i wouldn't like to see it , but imagine a lobby with 30 yachts and 30 aircraft carriers, where would you place them. Maybe an aircraft carrier per organisation could be the solution. but pornstar games know how much we want this so you can guess we are never going to get it. the only solution to get it is to make it seem like we don't want it.

[Beez]

It would be cool if the Carrier was just a floating Fort Zancudo and R* offered a new armed boat and submarine. Those could drive the shark card sales and it would give us another way to attack the carrier instead of just aircraft. If the carrier receives enough damage is sinks and then reappears somewhere else on the map.

Edited May 2, 2017 by Beez

[Rockstar_Fanboy]

Not that i wouldn't like to see it , but imagine a lobby with 30 yachts and 30 aircraft carriers, where would you place them. Maybe an aircraft carrier per organisation could be the solution. but pornstar games know how much we want this so you can guess we are never going to get it. the only solution to get it is to make it seem like we don't want it.

 

I addressed this above. The Yachts were limited to either 8 or 12 per session (if one more player with a Yacht logged on, they were placed into another session with an open slot). Not to mention, depending on the price tag, it is very likely that only a percentage of players ever are able to afford one. I would think the AC would be handled just like the Yacht, with a reasonable limit per session.

Edited May 2, 2017 by Rockstar_Fanboy

[kenmy13999]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Could we please not turn this into another thread about Jets being OP/nerfing them? There are plenty of other threads discussing this. Thank you in advance.

 

A thread asking for an aircraft carrier is intrinsically linked to the jet debate as it would obviously place more emphasis on jets in the game. Therefore it's perfectly reasonable for those that don't like jets to argue against it on this basis in the same thread.

 

Did you read OP, not really. I set it up so it would not change current balance (a conversation about changing the current balance has nothing to do with this). I am asking you nicely not to derail this thread (knowing there is nothing I can do to stop it, so I am asking).

Understand your point and I respect that, so I'll just leave my two objections here.

 

1. GTA is meant to be about being a criminal, not a military power.

 

2. The introduction of a carrier would inevitably increase the prevalence of jets in the game, even if that wasn't the intention.

 

For those reasons, I'm out

 

1. We already can buy fighter jets and helicopters so being criminals without access to military power vehicles is already gone in a way

 

2. There might be more jets in the skyes the first 14 days before it would go back to normal. There won't be more jet griefers because of this (this is only my opinion though)

Edited May 2, 2017 by kenmy13999

[The Wandering Hunter]

 

 

 

Added as a static location in free roam - OK

 

 

 

Make it a one stop repair and re-supply ammo for attack choppers and jets. Give attack vehicles ammo count. Jets for example (1000 explosive rounds, 4 rockets) Buzzards (2000 rounds 8 rockets) etc.

 

Charge LOTS of GTA money for the refills

 

Id be all for that..

 

And place that air craft carrier in various places around the map..

that's just stupid

 

i bought those vehicles with the knowledge that they have infinite ammo

[bombkangaroo]

 

 

 

 

Added as a static location in free roam - OK

 

 

 

Make it a one stop repair and re-supply ammo for attack choppers and jets. Give attack vehicles ammo count. Jets for example (1000 explosive rounds, 4 rockets) Buzzards (2000 rounds 8 rockets) etc.

 

Charge LOTS of GTA money for the refills

 

Id be all for that..

 

And place that air craft carrier in various places around the map..

that's just stupid

 

i bought those vehicles with the knowledge that they have infinite ammo

 

Lots of people bought the Rhino with the knowledge that it was a near unstoppable griefing machine, but Rockstar still nerfed it.

Edited May 2, 2017 by bombkangaroo

[.Vooodu.]

 

 

 

 

Added as a static location in free roam - OK

 

 

 

Make it a one stop repair and re-supply ammo for attack choppers and jets. Give attack vehicles ammo count. Jets for example (1000 explosive rounds, 4 rockets) Buzzards (2000 rounds 8 rockets) etc.

 

Charge LOTS of GTA money for the refills

 

Id be all for that..

 

And place that air craft carrier in various places around the map..

that's just stupid

 

i bought those vehicles with the knowledge that they have infinite ammo

 

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Well the ToS says you don't own anything.. R* can change what ever they want.. when ever they feel like it.

 

 

Stupid... is infinite ammo for air based military vehicles that are cheaper then most super cars.... Stupid is what is supposed to be a game about crime, allowing civilians access to purchase a life time supply fighter jets, tanks and attack choppers for a one time purchase.

 

 

But hey... R* could also sell an unlimited ammo, rapid fire, faster projectile HL to buy in the next update for 10 mill. That way stupid = stupid and we can all call it a day..lol

 

Infact im gonna make a prediction and say in this gun running update with 'military' weapons and vehicles. There will be a jet counter, it will cost large..

 

Because R* knows.. Jets are the bane of GTA O for most players.. So what better way to make tons of cash, buy selling some easy mode jet killer weapons/vehicles for massive amounts of GTA money..

 

 

 

Could we please not turn this into another thread about Jets being OP/nerfing them? There are plenty of other threads discussing this. Thank you in advance.

 

 

 

Not debating jets being OP.. Jets are OP.

 

 

But the reality is Air Craft Carriers are basically Floating Jet Carriers..

 

 

 

Saying not to bring up jets is like saying we can't mention bee's when talking about bee hives..

[Rockstar_Fanboy]

@ Voodu,

 

I have already thrown out some ideas as to how this might actually decrease jet attacks on the main land, even if it is just slightly. Feel free to agree or disagree, but can we refrain from discussing whether Jet is already OP? if you think this will make it more so, and that is why you would not want an AC, that discussion belongs here. Nerfing the jet now or whether other vehicles were in the past, is off topic, and I am respectfully requesting that we don't discuss that here. Thanks in advance for your cooperation.

Edited May 2, 2017 by Rockstar_Fanboy

[DarkSavageDeathlyCloud]

Just add this thing as an empy vessel with the internal structures wide open and a few spawn points here and there for people and i am honestly happy enough.

[Flash525]

I wouldn't mind seeing it on the map (within online freeroam); preferably with it moving around the island. It would essentially act as a mobile army base, though if you manage to get there you'd get to fly away in a Hydra, Valkyrie or Savage.

[Lonely-Martin]

@ Rockstar_Fanboy... READ MY POST... Page 3.

 

I quoted the GTA Wiki, you CAN get 30 yachts in a lobby, there are 12 locations... there are 3 spots per location... 3x12 = 36...

 

I have been in session with 15 yachts at times, 100%...

 

That said, I agree we WON'T OWN THE AC, it, if added, will be a location available upon certain jobs you choose within gunrunning... Just like we can go inside the Lost MC Clubhouse, police station, and Tequi-la-la with bikers... Can't go in there unless on a job or near another on those jobs...

 

Read the GTA Wiki regarding yachts, its there...

[Gettin up]

If they do it better be useful.

[DuckEarly]

almost certain that this will come in tomorrows dlc, should be great to drive my big ass boat around and blow up poor people etc, jk im a gta socialist and that so i think there should be welfare and no poor in gta online but yeah, excited!

[kenmy13999]

almost certain that this will come in tomorrows dlc, should be great to drive my big ass boat around and blow up poor people etc, jk im a gta socialist and that so i think there should be welfare and no poor in gta online but yeah, excited!

Tommorrows dlc?

[Lonely-Martin]

@ kenmy13999... Yeah, you know, his brothers friends babysitter's uncles brother-in-law told him...

[kenmy13999]

@ kenmy13999... Yeah, you know, his brothers friends babysitter's uncles brother-in-law told him...

Yh that's right, guess dlc confirmed tomorrow then..

[DuckEarly]

 

@ kenmy13999... Yeah, you know, his brothers friends babysitter's uncles brother-in-law told him...

Yh that's right, guess dlc confirmed tomorrow then..

typo i meant upcoming dlc whoops

[Coleco]

Hey R*, if you give us an Aircraft Carrier and I can't put dollar rims and chrome paint on it i'm trading in my copy of GTAV

 

 

Also musical horn too

 

Those never get old

Edited May 3, 2017 by Coleco

[kenmy13999]

 

 

@ kenmy13999... Yeah, you know, his brothers friends babysitter's uncles brother-in-law told him...

Yh that's right, guess dlc confirmed tomorrow then..

typo i meant upcoming dlc whoopsNo problem, just thought it would be okay to clarify if you heard/believed we would get a dlc tomorrow. Of course it's possible but very unlikely

[.Vooodu.]

@ Voodu,

 

I have already thrown out some ideas as to how this might actually decrease jet attacks on the main land, even if it is just slightly. Feel free to agree or disagree, but can we refrain from discussing whether Jet is already OP? if you think this will make it more so, and that is why you would not want an AC, that discussion belongs here. Nerfing the jet now or whether other vehicles were in the past, is off topic, and I am respectfully requesting that we don't discuss that here. Thanks in advance for your cooperation.

 

 

Im not discussing jets being OP tho.. They are OP. Thats pretty much the be all, end all comment.

 

But realistically.. If AC are added, it needs to have some sort of function. AC are meant to be a place for military air crafts to resupply and repairs.

 

SO giving ALL (not just jets) military vehicles a ammo carry. Would make it have a actual purpose. A reason to have to use it.

 

Which in turns would also better balance the game.. Its not really a nerf, since all vehicles would still have their respected speeds, armor and weapons exactly the same.

 

 

 

Also make the AC have a huge PASSIVE air space around it... Making all weapons turn off.. To prevent AC camping. And to top it off, add a few AA turrets that blast anyone in that space if they have a wanted level.

 

Annnd... finally allow military air craft response from the AC to deal with players with wanted level in military air crafts.

 

 

 

To be honest.. I don't even like jets.. But even i would want to use them more if thats how it actually was.

Edited May 3, 2017 by .Vooodu.

[Rockstar_Fanboy]

@ Rockstar_Fanboy... READ MY POST... Page 3.

 

I quoted the GTA Wiki, you CAN get 30 yachts in a lobby, there are 12 locations... there are 3 spots per location... 3x12 = 36...

 

I have been in session with 15 yachts at times, 100%...

 

That said, I agree we WON'T OWN THE AC, it, if added, will be a location available upon certain jobs you choose within gunrunning... Just like we can go inside the Lost MC Clubhouse, police station, and Tequi-la-la with bikers... Can't go in there unless on a job or near another on those jobs...

 

Read the GTA Wiki regarding yachts, its there...

Thanks for the info, mine was wrong.

 

Nothing would stop them from limiting the number of AC if they so chose. Price probably functions to do it organically. I can't remember the last time I have seen more than 6 yachts in one session, but maybe I just haven't noticed. Regardless, I am not sure a large number in and of itself is a problem (stability of the program, that is another matter).

Edited May 3, 2017 by Rockstar_Fanboy

[Pedinhuh]

Not only that would be incredibly stupid, even for this game's standards, but it would go against all sense of believability left in this game since NOBODY can own an aircraft carrier.

Yes, yes we can own a jumpjet and several others armed military vehicles, BUT it is in theme of the game that we are criminals(though I think we graduated to war lords now) with a sh*t ton of money to spend on mostly stuff that is illegal, but since we can pay for it, its ours.

Also, the warstock and cache is not an entirely legal e-commerce website, something that even gets Lampshaded by Agent 14 in the Deliver EMP setup in Humane Labs heist, so that website selling jumpjets is not something too far-fetched as selling a aircraft carrier would be, mainly because:

 

You can hide the jet somewhere in a warehouse, and the helicopters and tanks since they would fit in there, provided there is enough room.

 

Good luck hiding an aircraft carrier and not drawning attention.

 

And lets not even mention how much it would cost to simply own and maintain the whole thing, I bet it would be easily over 50k a day.

 

EDIT:

I take all of this back, apparently the world has gone retarded already:

 

https://www.google.com.br/amp/www.popularmechanics.com/military/navy-ships/amp20813/buy-your-own-aircraft-carrier-hms-illustrious/

Edited May 3, 2017 by Pedinhuh

[Wtfdontlickme]

I hope so, free lazers.

[Shadowfennekin]

I'd love it if it spawned for FR missions related to Gun Running. Similar to how Biker Contracts let you enter the O'neil house and Police Station in Mission Row

Though...... it couldn't be jets you're stealing cause there'd be legit no way for the other players to even try and stop you from delivering it if they wanted. Stealing a Hunter would be a perfect one.

[PwnageSoldier]

I hope so, free lazers.

Provided you don't get shot down by a jet or brutalized by Marines due to lack of cover Johnny

It would give us a bigger reason to buy the Dinghy, you use a boat to get in and you won't get stars or even noticed until a Marine saw you or you shot a unsuppressed weapon.. give us a bigger reason to have the stealth stat and a suppressed pistol.

Imagine, going in the AC using the stealth button for a actual practical purpose in free roam with a suppressed pistol just dropping soldiers by a headshot in the back of their skull... oh man, I would personally love a "raid" on the carrier.

6 guys in a Titan parachute from above and drop everyone on the deck with heavy weapons and Juggernaut suits and 4 guys come in with light gear and suppressed pistols splitting up silently taking everyone out on the bottom half (sorry don't know the lingo) and then everyone putting on G suits and pilot helmets and getting in Lazers and shooting down military planes before eventually getting shot down themselves...

 

Also gives us a bigger reason to add a feature where if you get 4 stars in a jet, 2 P-996 Lazers spawn about 2000m away from you and engage you in a dogfight and if you survived another duo would come in 4 minutes.

Come on R*, give us some sweet PvE action!

[DarkSavageDeathlyCloud]

I'd love it if it spawned for FR missions related to Gun Running. Similar to how Biker Contracts let you enter the O'neil house and Police Station in Mission Row

Though...... it couldn't be jets you're stealing cause there'd be legit no way for the other players to even try and stop you from delivering it if they wanted. Stealing a Hunter would be a perfect one.

There is an easy and kinda awsome(ignoring the fact we are talking about an OP aircraft) solution though.

 

As soon the event is activated players get notified and hydras and lazer jets spawn everywhere across Los Santos in a similar way to the spawning of civilian aircraft when there is a freeroam event that revolves around using aircraft, thus other players can just pick one up from anywhere.

Extra bonus points if it are only lazers people can steal from the carrier, so they just would not be able to just land it at a certain checkpoint.

Actually, even besides that, checkpoints can and already have been placed in such a way that not coming out of aircraft just won't do it.