What about bringing Premium races to freemode?

[Guest]

As of now its nearly impossible to get these races going. People join, wait for a bit then leave. Then new people join and repeat. The cycle never ends. This results in the lobby almost never filling up. Wouldnt it be a good idea to just bring these races (without stunt props but same payscale) to freemode as an event? I know some will say no because a bad lobby will just troll the race. I agree but couldnt R* just put everyone who joins the race into passive like time trials?

As for the payout, it would be scaled like regular races instead of the flat 100k. What I mean is the more ppl who join + the more ppl in the lobby = the higher the payout. This is much better than the requirment to have 8 ppl to even do the race. Another thing that could be added to this is the ability of those who didnt enter to bet on the race. Does this seem possible? If not what are the challenges that prevent it?

Edited April 17, 2017 by BumpyJohnson

[The Wandering Hunter]

i'd jet grief the sh*t out of them

 

if i couldn't i'd make a roadblock on the track with a brocade and an insurgent

Edited April 16, 2017 by The Sole Survivor

[joel15cat]

No.

Join via mobile, meanwhile do some VIP Work, like Headhunter.

[Nyamber]

Have you never done a VIP or CEO job?

 

No. That's a terrible idea.

[VanessaMagick]

If everyone is passive, then why not just have it in its own race mode? You know, like they currently are right now?

[jdv95]

so in other words rockstar should make races so they would be almost impossible to complete with all the jets and rockets around?

 

you have not thought this through haven't you?

 

plus letting the players be in passive like time trials would still require some gathering of racers in the lobby anyway. so doesn't solve the time loss issue.

Edited April 16, 2017 by jdv95

[jeremy813]

i'd jet grief the sh*t out of them

 

if i couldn't i'd make a roadblock on the track with a brocade and an insurgent

This would happen the vast majority of the time.

[Arrows to Athens]

You won't be able to grief them with a jet because they will be in passive mode, like the OP said.

[Guest]

What happens when you eject from a jet in passive mode?

[The Wandering Hunter]

You won't be able to grief them with a jet because they will be in passive mode, like the OP said.

roadblock?

 

just block the road, fire a shot and you have an impassable mess of civies

[Arrows to Athens]

 

You won't be able to grief them with a jet because they will be in passive mode, like the OP said.

roadblock?

 

just block the road, fire a shot and you have an impassable mess of civies

 

Just make it so that you either cannot exit your car during the race or your car remains in ghost mode after exiting it.

Edited April 16, 2017 by Arrows to Athens

[REXX]

I don't think it would work. Would be far too laggy and as already mentioned, even being in Passive has its downsides such as traffic being disrupted by other players and above all, having well over 100 props with other events going on simultaneously will fry our platforms!

 

It's a good concept and would certainly reduce waiting times, but yeah, sometimes sessions are already too laggy.

[REDDICE]

*lands titan on track*

[The Wandering Hunter]

 

 

You won't be able to grief them with a jet because they will be in passive mode, like the OP said.

roadblock?

 

just block the road, fire a shot and you have an impassable mess of civies

 

Just make it so that you either cannot exit your car during the race or your car remains in ghost mode after exiting it.who said i'd join the race, i'd fly my hydra ahead and prepare the ambush

[Commander S]

Main thing is that it's ...basically impossible. Remember, they're premium stunt races - R* can't just have all the props/track pieces suddenly pop into any given Freemode session. And even if they could, imagine the chaos that'd cause for anyone/anything in the vicinity - !

[Xiled]

hahahahahaha in freemode seriously? What next do people want the current heists to be playable in freemode? Same with adversary modes and missions? Terrible idea. Wish we could play a heist in freemode like in the GTA online trailer.

[Silver_Wolf]

There's a reason it's done as a job lobby, it'd be very hard to put the stunt race into free mode because it uses the already esatblished stunt tracks and the idea of it

was to make it a race where you got a higher reward which could be exploited very easy in a public lobby (you can lag everyone out and simply claim an easy win

as per the betting glitch in normal races that has happened in the past).

 

Plus Rockstar would not have any control over which vehicle was going into the premium race (again there have been glitches for this in the past).

 

That said I think you'll find the main reason lobbies don't fill up is most people aren't prepared to risk their money, I haven't entered one of these because it's hard

enough getting money together to then loose it just because you entered one of these races and lost.

[EggsAndJam]

i'd jet grief the sh*t out of them

 

if i couldn't i'd make a roadblock on the track with a brocade and an insurgent

 

 

 

You won't be able to grief them with a jet because they will be in passive mode, like the OP said.

roadblock?

 

just block the road, fire a shot and you have an impassable mess of civies

 

 

 

That'd be an excellent idea for a freemode event though...

Everyone who enters is either a driver or a blocker.

Get from point A to point B as a driver - or prevent drivers from getting from point A to B as a blocker (set up roadblocks, grief etc)

[Action_Andy]

Rockstar should just increase the payout for impromptu races. Or let me bet 10k on it.

[_47_]

Don't really care either way. It wouldn't be a anything new.

[The Wandering Hunter]

 

i'd jet grief the sh*t out of them

 

if i couldn't i'd make a roadblock on the track with a brocade and an insurgent

 

 

You won't be able to grief them with a jet because they will be in passive mode, like the OP said.

roadblock?

 

just block the road, fire a shot and you have an impassable mess of civies

 

 

That'd be an excellent idea for a freemode event though...

Everyone who enters is either a driver or a blocker.

Get from point A to point B as a driver - or prevent drivers from getting from point A to B as a blocker (set up roadblocks, grief etc)

only if people couldn't get grief it.

 

indestructible cars except for ramming

 

maybe insurgents

[Pedinhuh]

Terribly short-sighted suggestion, its almost like you don't know how free roam lobbies goes, jet griefers would just ruin the races for everyone, if they couldn't hit them(I imagine passive mode being enforced) they would just block the road with an heavy personal vehicle, like the Insurgent and set access to nobody.

 

Some people here, Jesus...

Main thing is that it's ...basically impossible. Remember, they're premium stunt races - R* can't just have all the props/track pieces suddenly pop into any given Freemode session. And even if they could, imagine the chaos that'd cause for anyone/anything in the vicinity - !

They can, in a sourcing mission for I/E you have to steal a car from a stunt set, the ramp you go through is a prop used in the races.

[joel15cat]

Its only one ramp and 5 accesories, not 150.

[SHADOW OPS]

Starts fully loaded...hope you racers can outrun my unlimited rockets.

[Guest]

If everyone is passive, then why not just have it in its own race mode? You know, like they currently are right now?

You mean the current ones that never happen? and to your question, why dont YOU just join the normal race modes and let others who are interested join these. How does it hurt you to have races in freemode? It doesnt you're just being petty. The point tho is higher risk/higher reward. You can win ONE race in freemode and get 100k but you'll need to win MULTIPLE "full lobby" races set to 3+ laps for the same amount. I think the point is clear.

 

 

so in other words rockstar should make races so they would be almost impossible to complete with all the jets and rockets around?

 

you have not thought this through haven't you?

 

plus letting the players be in passive like time trials would still require some gathering of racers in the lobby anyway. so doesn't solve the time loss issue.

You cant claim someone didnt think things through when its clear by your responce YOU are the one who didnt think things through. 1st wtf kinda english is the bold?

 

"You have not thought this through have not you?"

 

2nd, why bring up jets when you clearly see the mention of passive? and 3rd, as for your "doesnt solve the time loss issue". Have you timed it or are you just guessing? I have and its clearly faster as a freemode event.

 

 

I don't think it would work. Would be far too laggy and as already mentioned, even being in Passive has its downsides such as traffic being disrupted by other players and above all, having well over 100 props with other events going on simultaneously will fry our platforms!

 

It's a good concept and would certainly reduce waiting times, but yeah, sometimes sessions are already too laggy.

Main thing is that it's ...basically impossible. Remember, they're premium stunt races - R* can't just have all the props/track pieces suddenly pop into any given Freemode session. And even if they could, imagine the chaos that'd cause for anyone/anything in the vicinity - !

The only part of the Premium races I'm considering is the amount made from the race. I already assumed it would be too much to also add all the stunt props. Sorry I didnt mention that in the OP. I'll add that in now.

 

 

*lands titan on track*

who said i'd join the race, i'd fly my hydra ahead and prepare the ambush

Except there is no designated track and if you are not in the race you will not know the route so good luck with that.

Edited April 17, 2017 by BumpyJohnson

[Guest]

Terribly short-sighted suggestion, its almost like you don't know how free roam lobbies goes, jet griefers would just ruin the races for everyone, if they couldn't hit them(I imagine passive mode being enforced) they would just block the road with an heavy personal vehicle, like the Insurgent and set access to nobody.

 

Some people here, Jesus..

Its not as terribly short sighted as your reply. Feeling yourself a littel too much buddy. Again if passive is mentioned then wtf are you talking about jets? Also, how the hell can you block the road when you dont even know the route of the race? Only racers can see the checkpoints. Some ppl Jesus is right. lol Also there are simple ways around ppl blocking the race track if they were to figure out where its at. One easy one is for R* to make the races point to point with no specific route to the finish.

Edited April 17, 2017 by BumpyJohnson

[Matrelith]

Do you want griefers? Because that's how you get griefers.

[Guest]

^ ^

There are griefers in normal races tho. Ppl ram you off the track, have their friends block the roads after them, etc. You're point?

 

All the NO votes. Why do ppl hate so much on this forum? lol What sense is it to say no to something you are not forced to do? I dont see why those who are interested should be prohibited from this when those who arent can just ignore it. Its a freemode event tho and griefers are a part of that. Same concept as CEO and MC. Succeed while others are trying to stop you. I personally would love the challenge of winning a freemode race while people are trying to stop me. As long as the payouts are big I'd love it.

 

"the stunt props will be an issue" - this is street racing not stunt racing

 

"but the jet griefers will ruin it" - the racers will be in passive

 

"but ppl will block the road" - only racers can see the route of the race, also it can be point ot point or the checkpoints can be far apart allowing the racers to choose their own path to them

Next?

Edited April 17, 2017 by BumpyJohnson

[Pedinhuh]

 

Terribly short-sighted suggestion, its almost like you don't know how free roam lobbies goes, jet griefers would just ruin the races for everyone, if they couldn't hit them(I imagine passive mode being enforced) they would just block the road with an heavy personal vehicle, like the Insurgent and set access to nobody.

 

Some people here, Jesus..

Its not as terribly short sighted as your reply. Feeling yourself a littel too much buddy. Again if passive is mentioned then wtf are you talking about jets? Also, how the hell can you block the road when you dont even know the route of the race? Only racers can see the checkpoints. Some ppl Jesus is right. lol Also there are simple ways around ppl blocking the race track if they were to figure out where its at. One easy one is for R* to make the races point to point with no specific route to the finish.Owww are you triggered, little man? Calm down a second and let tell you a couple of things:

 

First, premium races are EXCLUSIVE to LAPPED STUNT TRACKS, with ramps, loops and all that sh*t, and laps so: No stunt props, no laps, no premium race.

Now with this in mind, what would stop anyone with the Insurgent to, lets say, Block a ramp? Is the Insurgent too small for it? Call in a Limo or any truck from Pegasus.

 

Second: It would be obvious that the griefers would know where the races would be held, anyone can spot the stunt props from a mile away, even if they didn't, all they have to do is looking at their map and see how where there is an aglomeration of players following a route.

 

Or even better: They can get in the race theirselves, see the route in the map, know where are the choke points, mark on the map; quit the race and steal a truck or call their PV.

 

But what about the 20k entrance fee? That is NOTHING for a griefer, they pay 20k insurance premiuns 24/7, and they glitch their money anyway so its not a problem for them.

 

Like I said, some people here, Jesus...

Edited April 17, 2017 by Pedinhuh

[-LN-]

Premium Races lost all credibility and enjoyment when they combined non-contact and slipstream together.

 

I do race, but knowing R*, this would be restricted to Public Lobby only and everyone and their fourth cousin eight times removed be would be alerted about the race in progress. In fact, given R*'s reputation, they'd be instructed to block the paths to stop individuals from finishing.

 

One easy one is for R* to make the races point to point with no specific route to the finish.

 

So, essentially, they'd just be random Impromptu style races with no clear course or direction?

 

I haven't anything against the idea of races being held within lobbies on the surface, but it's all about execution and something tells me they'd end up being a total clusterf*ck with how lobbies are designed within this game.

Edited April 17, 2017 by -LN-