PSA: Cheat Awareness, Discussion, Notices & News

[flexcreator]

 

 

Has anyone alerted AB to this?

 

Also doesn't the scripthook have to be updated with every patch to work - eg changes to the hashes etc? Was wondering if he knew, perhaps he could find a way to block Force menu, or atleast from accessing certain native functions? Although I guess by the next patch R* should do that themselves.

 

 

Yeah. I sent him the PM. Not sure if he checks it, because modders usually recieve tons of stupid requests daily.

And yes, I suggested to provide some kind of abuse detection.

 

R* should. It doesn't mean that they will.

[Gaffa]

 

At this point in time, whilst we're STILL waiting for Rockstar Games to make an official announcement given the scale of the potential issues (whether you've experienced it or not), to purchase one of these menus just to get the protection isn't a particularly bad idea for the sake of $10 - that is - if you can't avoid joining public lobbies or want to do so anyway.

You'd even find my name appear on the Menyoo site as a moderator, having been there since the early days, but this sort of "advocation of the use of menus" and idea of "if you can't beat them, join them" is a load of nonsense, because the fundamental and core problem is that Rockstar Games haven't got any proper anti-cheat to weed out these real problem makers.

 

Combine this with the inflated economy and outrageous pricing of their shark cards, which haven't increased in value despite inflation and the fact that extra fun can be had with map mods, in addition to being protected from malicious cheaters - well you can understand why people pay for these menus in the first place, even if it can't be condoned.

 

I have a hard time recommending this as a solution, particularly for people that really are trying to maintain a legit account, since just having the menu installed is technically a violation of the R* ToS. It carries a risk of getting your account banned/reset just for having it loaded, even if you are only using it for the protection features. People need to be aware of the risk and willing to take it. It is unfortunate that the mod-menu community is more responsive to combating these abuses that R* itself.

 

 

Oh certainly, that shouldn't be seen as a solution of any grade and it's not something I am recommending, even GTA Forums won't have it. I would like to ask what's going on at Rockstar North/ HQ though... Is it really so difficult for Rockstar Games to make a post on the Newswire informing people of what's happening and their efforts to quash the nuisances? Is it really so difficult for them to fix the issues so that this entire thread isn't necessary?

The option I gave people can't really be condoned at any sort of official level, that post of mine is really just a work-around or secondary option for a very small percentage who as you rightly pointed out, don't care about, or are willing to take the risks or have been shafted by Rockstar Games by having years of efforts and dedication to the game wasted as a result of inability to "verify" a loss of funds, and then determining it as modded money (for example). Maintenance of a legit account may be made harder if someone sets your rank to 8000, a flurry of reports follow, and then shortly later you're banned - even if it is possible to have that recovered with their "no appeals" policy, it's extra hassle for the end user.

And here I am, where all I want to have Online is an accurate digital speedometer for every vehicle, but even that wouldn't be allowed.

Edited April 25, 2017 by Gaffa™

[DentureDynamite]

^^ I miss the "old days" not too long ago, when there was actually some communication to the outside world from within R* (e.g. interview about heists).

 

From what Yan2295 noted recently, it sounds like things at R* have gone from bad to worse (even fewer people working on GTA Online now).

 

Judging by the shoddy implementation of even a simple Adversary Mode (Tiny Racers), I think we have the answer...

Edited April 25, 2017 by DentureDynamite

[Geisterfaust]

Got word that this background script update is not stopping people who offers modding services from ranking you up. R* cheat detection is a joke.

[mute!]

well i guess after this week's contact mission event i'll just go back to playing other games. Whether we like it or not this is the future of GTA Online. You console players are next.

[Lost_Warrior]

2016 is was at least possible to remove modded money from r* support ...

maybe the support should buy the mod menu, then they can help us much better -_-

 

HAH, thats the deal. why we dont make an "KICKSTARTER"?

 

let us collect together money, so someone of us can buy the mod menu for GOOD purposes!

this hero will solve our problems, where R* fails. for this i would give 20$ (real money)!!

 

I mean you could just buy the $10 one with a better community included no bad options etc. But of course protecting yourself can also get you banned.

Edited April 25, 2017 by Lost_Warrior

[Tez2]

Got word that this background script update is not stopping people who offers modding services from ranking you up. R* cheat detection is a joke.

Looks like this new Background script doesn't stop them from messing with ALL of your stats.

Only a specific type of stats.

I'm sure there's lots of events that give you RP so cheaters can rank you up.

Not to mention the temporary fix doesn't actually fix it completely.

It cancels the request if it's called multiple times, they have to make sure it doesn't ruin the actual event so legit players can't be affected.

[RollsReus1959]

Already encountered this. Not only are players asking for money but they are asking to be ranked up.

 

Thr mods are getting more sophisticated. I joined a lobby and usually get spawned in my gagrage. I saw my bank account say +200k every second. I thought it was some glitch but a mod was injecting money. In one minute while figuring out what was going on I received 30 million. I got out of there as soon as possible.

 

The ranking mod bothers me the most and the one where they can alter your car. I had a mod change a color to my car that I worked so hard to create. Some are permanent and some go baxk to how tou have it when you change sessions.

Edited April 25, 2017 by RollsReus1959

[Geisterfaust]

^ Car color change is a new thing for me. Hilarious.

 

 

 

Got word that this background script update is not stopping people who offers modding services from ranking you up. R* cheat detection is a joke.

Looks like this new Background script doesn't stop them from messing with ALL of your stats.

Only a specific type of stats.

I'm sure there's lots of events that give you RP so cheaters can rank you up.

Not to mention the temporary fix doesn't actually fix it completely.

It cancels the request if it's called multiple times, they have to make sure it doesn't ruin the actual event so legit players can't be affected.

 

Yeah, probably. Ranking up and custom stats editing was possible on PC since...forever. What do you think, will R* be able to stop this madness or not? It looks for me every of their fixes will be temporary, but that's just me.

 

 

well i guess after this week's contact mission event i'll just go back to playing other games. Whether we like it or not this is the future of GTA Online. You console players are next.

There is a lot of fun on PC GTA, mate! Criminal mastermind is a nice thing to do, PC is the best platform for any kind of racing because of FPS and you don't need randoms for that, you can do that in tight communities. I'm not PC master race type of guy at all (used to play on 360 and X1), but in terms of sound, input variety, visuals it's the best platform. And about consoles, I don't think so: MS and Sony will protect their consoles as much as they can not to help R* but to prevent piracy. And right now consoles are bit better for random play in theory. In theory because people on consoles tend to use 2.4 GHz wifi and potato routers and it will ruin fps to the ground in public sessions.

Edited April 25, 2017 by hei3enberg

[Dacelo]

Funnily enough my first experience with a modder was having someone teleport into my Sultan and change the colour of it to pink and the plate to 'fa**ot'. Around 2015, I think. The majority of them really are just children trying to get a rise out of people.

[DentureDynamite]

There is a lot of fun on PC GTA, mate! Criminal mastermind is a nice thing to do, PC is the best platform for any kind of racing because of FPS and you don't need randoms for that, you can do that in tight communities. I'm not PC master race type of guy at all (used to play on 360 and X1), but in terms of sound, input variety, visuals it's the best platform. And about consoles, I don't think so: MS and Sony will protect their consoles as much as they can not to help R* but to prevent piracy. And right now consoles are bit better for random play in theory. In theory because people on consoles tend to use 2.4 GHz wifi and potato routers and it will ruin fps to the ground in public sessions.

 

I hate to say it, but at some point, I might just get a PS4 just to safely be able to play some games; but certainly won't touch RDR2 if it uses P2P.

[Phervor Trill Lips]

^ Car color change is a new thing for me. Hilarious.

It's been a thing since GTA IV. I remember being able to do it online with Simple Native Trainer for the PC version, though I could only do it to my own cars. I'm pretty sure there was the same option for the menus on PS3 and Xbox360.

 

Pretty much all of these cheats you've seen or experienced in GTA Online have existed since GTA IV multiplayer.

 

The ranking mod bothers me the most and the one where they can alter your car. I had a mod change a color to my car that I worked so hard to create. Some are permanent and some go baxk to how tou have it when you change sessions.

You think that's bad, the worst is may be yet to come...

 

It's highly required to stay out of public lobbies.

 

The method being used by cheaters can do more than that.

It's possible for them to mess with your CEO stats, deleting your office and warehouses and other stuff.

They can force you to join a Job and alot more.

I'd assume that would mean that they would eventually be able to delete cars from your garages, too. Or delete your garages too. Fun De Panda can correct me if I'm wrong on this, hopefully.

 

I would like to ask what's going on at Rockstar North/ HQ though... Is it really so difficult for Rockstar Games to make a post on the Newswire informing people of what's happening and their efforts to quash the nuisances?

Maybe your best bet would be to try contacting Alice at Rock, Paper, Shotgun. She wrote a disclosure at the end of the linked article that she is "acquaintances with several people who work on GTA". So that could be as close as you're ever going to get to asking them directly.

 

I'm unsure if the Kotaku article on this subject came out before Rockstar's support article, but if it did, then it would seem like the video games press is the way towards getting more answers.

[theNGclan]

 

It's highly required to stay out of public lobbies.

 

The method being used by cheaters can do more than that.

It's possible for them to mess with your CEO stats, deleting your office and warehouses and other stuff.

They can force you to join a Job and alot more.

I'd assume that would mean that they would eventually be able to delete cars from your garages, too. Or delete your garages too. Fun De Panda can correct me if I'm wrong on this, hopefully.

Nope, not possible. You can't delete properties.

[lost-in-emotions]

lol, and i thought i am the ony one? i just bought fallout 4.

because i played as "fill-in" since the last 2 weeks fallout shelter.

 

well i guess after this week's contact mission event i'll just go back to playing other games.

 

btw car color changing. i remember very in the past a random ex crew mate who done this.

we played a contact mission and i was in his car and while he drove he changed the colors.

[Asweti]

^ Car color change is a new thing for me. Hilarious.

 

 

 

Got word that this background script update is not stopping people who offers modding services from ranking you up. R* cheat detection is a joke.

Looks like this new Background script doesn't stop them from messing with ALL of your stats.

Only a specific type of stats.

I'm sure there's lots of events that give you RP so cheaters can rank you up.

Not to mention the temporary fix doesn't actually fix it completely.

It cancels the request if it's called multiple times, they have to make sure it doesn't ruin the actual event so legit players can't be affected.

 

Yeah, probably. Ranking up and custom stats editing was possible on PC since...forever. What do you think, will R* be able to stop this madness or not? It looks for me every of their fixes will be temporary, but that's just me.

 

 

well i guess after this week's contact mission event i'll just go back to playing other games. Whether we like it or not this is the future of GTA Online. You console players are next.

There is a lot of fun on PC GTA, mate! Criminal mastermind is a nice thing to do, PC is the best platform for any kind of racing because of FPS and you don't need randoms for that, you can do that in tight communities. I'm not PC master race type of guy at all (used to play on 360 and X1), but in terms of sound, input variety, visuals it's the best platform. And about consoles, I don't think so: MS and Sony will protect their consoles as much as they can not to help R* but to prevent piracy. And right now consoles are bit better for random play in theory. In theory because people on consoles tend to use 2.4 GHz wifi and potato routers and it will ruin fps to the ground in public sessions.

 

I'm not a console player as I quit long ago (the last console I had was the first generation of the ps2), but in a world where hackers can hack their way into cars, drones, and even our mobile phones, I highly doubt that Sony and MS will be able to keep their properties protected forever. They may try to do it, but one day hackers will Crack the code and when they do, all hell will break loose.

[flexcreator]

I'm not a console player as I quit long ago (the last console I had was the first generation of the ps2), but in a world where hackers can hack their way into cars, drones, and even our mobile phones, I highly doubt that Sony and MS will be able to keep their properties protected forever. They may try to do it, but one day hackers will Crack the code and when they do, all hell will break loose.

 

Real world hackers =/= game hackers. This is a completely different level. The first ones will attack your game or a console only if it gives them a valuable information. They will never hack for no reason and they don't care about your progress in game.

 

The second ones - cheaters, mod creators would have to find a way to deploy the third party code into the console. And Sony is extremely overprotective. It won't even allow for the game scripts to be deployed which frustrate a lot of modders. So, I guess they need to crack the console OS first.

 

Nothing can be protected forever. It's all about setting barriers and layers of defence.

[size_m]

lol, and i thought i am the ony one? i just bought fallout 4.

because i played as "fill-in" since the last 2 weeks fallout shelter.

 

well i guess after this week's contact mission event i'll just go back to playing other games.

 

btw car color changing. i remember very in the past a random ex crew mate who done this.

we played a contact mission and i was in his car and while he drove he changed the colors.

no, you are right, you are really the only one out of millions of players worldwide who plays other games than gta!

you are a very special corn flake.

[kringled]

Car color changing isn't new, I saw that in 2015.

The whole situation, and Rockstar's ineffectual and unhelpful responses (sorry Denture) give me little hope that they'll be able to restore this game on PC to a meaningfully playable state.

I logged in last night, invite-only, and ran the time trial and a few contact missions. I don't really have much appetite for the game anymore, though, spending most of my time on ESO and Overwatch.

[TovarishTony]

There's still cheaters post patch?

[oleg_aka_djmeg]

There's still cheaters post patch?

considering the last patch was in march, yes.

[Non Funkable Token]

Tried to log in a few minutes ago and the cloud is down.

[Garland137]

lol, and i thought i am the ony one? i just bought fallout 4.

because i played as "fill-in" since the last 2 weeks fallout shelter.

 

well i guess after this week's contact mission event i'll just go back to playing other games.

btw car color changing. i remember very in the past a random ex crew mate who done this.

we played a contact mission and i was in his car and while he drove he changed the colors.

Last year I was playing the Series 2 heist finale and the Boxvilles started changing colours. The modder eventually settled on pink and then gave them dollar rims. I didn't complain too much because he made them indestructible as well, but still. It's an old trick.

[flexcreator]

Anyone had experience running GTA under the Virtual Machine? For me it's like a slideshow. It would be nice to find a way to utilize the host GPU resources.

[FourFingersOfFun]

Well... new menu update

Now they can send you to flight school,send you to gtao tutorial,make you reload session,spam you with error screens (transaction failed), hide your rank bar,make you play tennis with bounty player,send you to warehouse,force Lamar to call you,"f*ck his game" option which disables weapon wheel map and more, sound spam (I'm guessing it spams annoying loud noises only you can hear) and break his game which they didn't show.

 

This is so f*cked, what a bunch of f*cking pathetic basement dwellers, I can't wait till Take Two smothers them with a pillow in court and can rockstar please f*cking hurry and fix this sh*t? It's been literally two whole f*cking weeks now since I've last touched a public lobby because of this sh*t. FIX. IT.

[lost-in-emotions]

they are faster then R*.

maybe R* should offer them an job

[flexcreator]

Well... new menu update

Now they can send you to flight school,send you to gtao tutorial,make you reload session,spam you with error screens (transaction failed), hide your rank bar,make you play tennis with bounty player,send you to warehouse,force Lamar to call you,"f*ck his game" option which disables weapon wheel map and more, sound spam (I'm guessing it spams annoying loud noises only you can hear) and break his game which they didn't show.

 

This is so f*cked, what a bunch of f*cking pathetic basement dwellers, I can't wait till Take Two smothers them with a pillow in court and can rockstar please f*cking hurry and fix this sh*t? It's been literally two whole f*cking weeks now since I've last touched a public lobby because of this sh*t. FIX. IT.

 

1) Thanks for the news.

2) Calm down. Script kiddies want you to rage (that's why they use mod menus in the first place) and that's exactly what you are doing.

3) How many of you actually presented this info to R* ? Are you sure they recognize the scale of the problem?

 

 

they are faster then R*.

maybe R* should offer them an job

 

They just have very few objectives, less bureaucracy and a single product compared to R*. The fact that they are releasing mod menus faster doesn't make them more competent. And like I said they were stealing 3rd party libraries in the past in order for their menu to be functional.

 

They (or maybe some other team?) found one or two new vulnerabilities in the game. The menu authors just keep exploiting them in various ways.

[mute!]

Sadly he's right. There really is a new one

 

(youtu.be/6b4W6ASfYRc)

Edited April 27, 2017 by mute!

[Hellbendzor]

Today I had to explain to someone in my friendlist, why he couldn't see me playing gta online anymore... As I don't play in any populated session anymore, I was a lil tired of Always explaining myself, thus invis to all for time being.. Which is again sad...

 

Said it before, until the next update (or a solution message in this thread), probably gunrunning, I'm not going anywhere near populated sessions anymore. Invested way too much time and effort in my perpetual grind and character to have some nitwit take it all away from me...

 

Ah, a new modmenu again... 'Nice'....Sad stuff...

Edited April 27, 2017 by Hellbendzor

[Non Funkable Token]

Sadly he's right. There really is a new one

 

(youtu.be/6b4W6ASfYRc)

 

Gladly their "marketing" is as pathetic as it can get. sh*tty music, little to no explanation about the menu things..... Most of the kids won't watch that crap until the end.

Edited April 27, 2017 by Perez84

[DarkSavageDeathlyCloud]

Well... new menu update

Now they can send you to flight school,send you to gtao tutorial,make you reload session,spam you with error screens (transaction failed), hide your rank bar,make you play tennis with bounty player,send you to warehouse,force Lamar to call you,"f*ck his game" option which disables weapon wheel map and more, sound spam (I'm guessing it spams annoying loud noises only you can hear) and break his game which they didn't show.

 

This is so f*cked, what a bunch of f*cking pathetic basement dwellers, I can't wait till Take Two smothers them with a pillow in court and can rockstar please f*cking hurry and fix this sh*t? It's been literally two whole f*cking weeks now since I've last touched a public lobby because of this sh*t. FIX. IT.

Don't hold your breath.

 

In the end i did transfer to PC with the idea that rockstar would once stop giving a crap, and get myself a mod menu.

 

Anyone that ever played on old gen should have relized cockstar does not really give a f*ck.