PSA: Cheat Awareness, Discussion, Notices & News

[flexcreator]

There are third party retailers (legit) who can sell you geo-restricted SC key for under $20.

 

Good idea. Might use one myself soon, lol )

I think i'm going to just buy the menu. Not sure if it will lead to any results, since I had no luck with v6.9 so far. They have a very neat protector.

 

If anyone else here have experience with reverse engineering, we may team up on this.

[mute!]

Fingers crossed this is patched in a couple of hours.

[Retro Flutter]

Wait...if someone has a Steam copy of GTA, would they get a VAC ban as well?

 

 

Also, if they get banned by Rockstar(but not Steam/Valve), wouldn't they just have to make a new Social Club account? Since the game is registered to a Steam account instead of directly to a Social Club account?

[theNGclan]

Wait...if someone has a Steam copy of GTA, would they get a VAC ban as well?

 

 

Also, if they get banned by Rockstar(but not Steam/Valve), wouldn't they just have to make a new Social Club account? Since the game is registered to a Steam account instead of directly to a Social Club account?

Keys are tied to your Social Club account, and GTA V does not utilize VAC.

[Prince_Polaris]

Sucks having to live in fear of being banned just because of modded money all the time, don't it. Egh...

[lost-in-emotions]

Quote from the Support Forums:

 

 

» @xxxxxx: Do you have any proof that these "innocent" players are in fact innocent, or are you just taking their word for it? You make a lot of accusations here, with no proof at all, are you the President or something??

The burden of proof is at R*. They accuse you of hacking, they better have proof to back it up. You're the one who bought a game and played it, if R* claims you hacked they should be able to proof it or do nothing.

Edited April 25, 2017 by lost-in-emotions

[elfoam]

 

Quote from the Support Forums:

 

 

» @xxxxxx: Do you have any proof that these "innocent" players are in fact innocent, or are you just taking their word for it? You make a lot of accusations here, with no proof at all, are you the President or something??

 

The burden of proof is at R*. They accuse you of hacking, they better have proof to back it up. You're the one who bought a game and played it, if R* claims you hacked they should be able to proof it or do nothing.

 

The guy is morally correct of course but Rockstar never had any morals.

[lost-in-emotions]

I'LL GIVE UP NOW.

my 5th ticket was just closed as SOLVED. hahaha.

 

the lady said again, they cant remove money anymore.

good to now that HACKERS can.

 

and again she said, that it will be removed from their system.

hahaha... i wait since TWO WEEKS NOW.

 

 

Leider haben wir keine Informationen wann die GTA$ entfernt werden und können dies auch leider nichtmehr manuell tun. Wir entschuldigen uns vielmals für die Unannehmlichkeiten.
Unfortunately, we do not have any information when the GTA $ will be removed and we cant do it anymore manually. We apologize a lot for the inconvenience.

 

i proof you, sould i ever play again, and spent ONE DOLLAR,

i will get banned. and THEN? i dont believe R* will ever undo this.

even when i have 5 Tickets, where they say: PLAY AS NORMAL

 

and the best: u cant open tickets again. they will know WHY.

 

ill just meet up with a hacker, wich removes my 16 Millions again!

 

Edited April 25, 2017 by lost-in-emotions

[Mrs. Buzz]

 

^ Banhammer meas that they will get another copy of the game, simple as that. There are third party retailers (legit) who can sell you geo-restricted SC key for under $20.

 

They can get non-legit cracked accounts for under $5 too. They don't really care if they get someone else's account banned.

 

^^ Ahhh, thank you for that reminder. time to do my half-year password change on all accounts^^

[Schroebedroeber]

I wouldnt worrie too much about that money.

Modders dropped more than that on me, never been banned.

But that was moneybags, a couple million at a time, not 16 million at once.

[lost-in-emotions]

^ was it ever removed?

 

i dont really know if it was at once. it was really hectic all around.

it seems it was a kind of money spending like after jobs to friends.

and after reaching the limit ill get the refund. so are my thoughts.

 

what it really was, i dont know. strange that i am the only one here?!

 

[Geisterfaust]

I know two people personally who used modding service and received ~100 mil each and guess what? They're still playing. So, if you're actually getting money, it's not much of a problem.

[lost-in-emotions]

^ and why i always hear in the R*SCSF those topics like:

"im unfair banned" or "banned but never cheated"?

 

lets face it.

before the attack i had ~12.000.000$. Then i got 16.000.000 $ from the Hacker.

so im only allowed to spent 11.999.999$ and never ever more then this?

 

and whats with the "myth": never buy expensive objects while waiting for sweeping?

[mute!]

You won't get banned. Rockstar money sweep and detection are a joke. Spend away.

[DentureDynamite]

^^ Yeah, evidence strongly suggests that R* honestly has ZERO idea of what is, and isn't, "modded" GTA$.

 

I doubt it was always that way; my account did get "swept" once, shortly after the PC release of Online, but again(!) that was because I reported the money bags that were dropped on me to R* Support--they didn't detect them on their own.

 

Within the last year and a half they have all but lost the battle war considering the failure of their "anti-cheat" system(s).

Edited April 25, 2017 by DentureDynamite

[⁣V⁣]

Fingers crossed this is patched in a couple of hours.

Is it safe to come out and dip our toes in a public session?

 

The game didn't download a Title Update so I doubt it. Are the bounties and Blue circles there?

Edited April 25, 2017 by --V--

[Non Funkable Token]

Blue circles are, at least in office garages.

[Schroebedroeber]

^ was it ever removed?

 

Nope.

BUT i didnt contact rockstar about it like you did.

Dont think it matters because all they tell you is the automated programm will take care of it

Edited April 25, 2017 by Schroebedroeber

[lost-in-emotions]

2016 is was at least possible to remove modded money from r* support ...

maybe the support should buy the mod menu, then they can help us much better -_-

 

HAH, thats the deal. why we dont make an "KICKSTARTER"?

 

let us collect together money, so someone of us can buy the mod menu for GOOD purposes!

this hero will solve our problems, where R* fails. for this i would give 20$ (real money)!!

Edited April 25, 2017 by lost-in-emotions

[update_lsc]

2016 is was at least possible to remove modded money from r* support ...

maybe the support should buy the mod menu, then they can help us much better -_-

 

HAH, thats the deal. why we dont make an "KICKSTARTER"?

 

let us collect together money, so someone of us can buy the mod menu for GOOD purposes!

this hero will solve our problems, where R* fails. for this i would give 20$ (real money)!!

Throwing money at force retards is bad. It doesn't matter what intentions you have, nobody should support these pieces of sh*ts in any way. As far as i know you don't just pay once, you have to pay monthly or yearly too. Not a good idea whatsoever.

Support says you're fine, why do you make so much drama about it.

[lost-in-emotions]

because i cant trust R* (anymore)

Edited April 25, 2017 by lost-in-emotions

[Tez2]

Yesterday they have updated the Background script to monitor/disable a specific event used to update your stats.

I'm talking about all of your stats, Not sure if the cheaters messed with it.

[FourFingersOfFun]

Yesterday they have updated the Background script to monitor/disable a specific event used to update your stats.

I'm talking about all of your stats, Not sure if the cheaters messed with it.

So is this now disabled or changed so that the cheaters can't use it to modify stats?

 

Or can the cheaters still modify your stats?

[flexcreator]

 

let us collect together money, so someone of us can buy the mod menu for GOOD purposes!

this hero will solve our problems, where R* fails. for this i would give 20$ (real money)!!

 

I'm going to buy the menu anyway.

Throwing money at force retards is bad. It doesn't matter what intentions you have, nobody should support these pieces of sh*ts in any way.

 

It's the only way to obtain the working menu. It's the only way to investigate it. It's the only way to solve problems.

 

PS

The version 6.9 is packed by VMProtect by the way.

Edited April 25, 2017 by flexcreator

[update_lsc]

 

 

let us collect together money, so someone of us can buy the mod menu for GOOD purposes!

this hero will solve our problems, where R* fails. for this i would give 20$ (real money)!!

 

I'm going to buy the menu anyway.

Throwing money at force retards is bad. It doesn't matter what intentions you have, nobody should support these pieces of sh*ts in any way.

 

It's the only way to obtain the working menu. It's the only way to investigate it. It's the only way to solve problems.

 

PS

The version 6.9 is packed by VMProtect by the way.

 

Why would you do that. Are you doing it to find out how they do the remote stuff? Menyoo and authority have protections against all that crap. Maybe you can reverse engineer the protections in order to find out how it works? Access to both trainers is just ten bucks in total and you don't support griefing scumbags. (no, i don't wanna do advertisting for menyoo or authority, it's just a better option.)

Edited April 25, 2017 by update_lsc

[flexcreator]

^ Force Menu is my primary target. I'm not interested in any other mods, since they don't affect accounts in such a bad way.

 

The interesting fact is that Force Menu is still heavily based on the Script Hook, developed by Alexander Blade.

They call it Force Hook.

 

Script Hook terms of use:

 

6. Terms of use

- You are allowed to use this SDK only for writing scripts intended to work offline.

Gta5Hax / Force Menu is intented to work online.

- You are not allowed to redistribute ScriptHookV.dll with your script plugins,

provide the link to the latest runtime instead:

http://www.dev-c.com/gtav/scripthookv/

Yeah, yeah. Who cares?

Build your own version of Script Hook, cover it with VMProtect, distribute as a hidden file, provide NO links or credits and make money on it!

Yay! No respect to the original developer.

[lost-in-emotions]

in this world, the evil copy good things to make something bad of it,

i like that thought to "dreh den spieß um" / beat them with their own weapons.

 

why not in the first time of mankind, use something bad for the good?

[Jimbatron]

^ Force Menu is my primary target. I'm not interested in any other mods, since they don't affect accounts in such a bad way.

 

The interesting fact is that Force Menu is still heavily based on the Script Hook, developed by Alexander Blade.

They call it Force Hook.

 

Script Hook terms of use:

 

6. Terms of use

- You are allowed to use this SDK only for writing scripts intended to work offline.

 

Gta5Hax / Force Menu is intented to work online.

 

- You are not allowed to redistribute ScriptHookV.dll with your script plugins,

provide the link to the latest runtime instead:

http://www.dev-c.com/gtav/scripthookv/

 

Yeah, yeah. Who cares?

Build your own version of Script Hook, cover it with VMProtect, distribute as a hidden file, provide NO links or credits and make money on it!

 

Yay! No respect to the original developer.

Has anyone alerted AB to this?

 

Also doesn't the scripthook have to be updated with every patch to work - eg changes to the hashes etc? Was wondering if he knew, perhaps he could find a way to block Force menu, or atleast from accessing certain native functions? Although I guess by the next patch R* should do that themselves.

[Gaffa]

At this point in time, whilst we're STILL waiting for Rockstar Games to make an official announcement given the scale of the potential issues (whether you've experienced it or not), to purchase one of these menus just to get the protection isn't a particularly bad idea for the sake of $10 - that is - if you can't avoid joining public lobbies or want to do so anyway.

You'd even find my name appear on the Menyoo site as a moderator, having been there since the early days, but this sort of "advocation of the use of menus" and idea of "if you can't beat them, join them" is a load of nonsense, because the fundamental and core problem is that Rockstar Games haven't got any proper anti-cheat to weed out these real problem makers.

 

Combine this with the inflated economy and outrageous pricing of their shark cards, which haven't increased in value despite inflation and the fact that extra fun can be had with map mods, in addition to being protected from malicious cheaters - well you can understand why people pay for these menus in the first place, even if it can't be condoned.

[gglenn1966]

At this point in time, whilst we're STILL waiting for Rockstar Games to make an official announcement given the scale of the potential issues (whether you've experienced it or not), to purchase one of these menus just to get the protection isn't a particularly bad idea for the sake of $10 - that is - if you can't avoid joining public lobbies or want to do so anyway.

You'd even find my name appear on the Menyoo site as a moderator, having been there since the early days, but this sort of "advocation of the use of menus" and idea of "if you can't beat them, join them" is a load of nonsense, because the fundamental and core problem is that Rockstar Games haven't got any proper anti-cheat to weed out these real problem makers.

 

Combine this with the inflated economy and outrageous pricing of their shark cards, which haven't increased in value despite inflation and the fact that extra fun can be had with map mods, in addition to being protected from malicious cheaters - well you can understand why people pay for these menus in the first place, even if it can't be condoned.

 

I have a hard time recommending this as a solution, particularly for people that really are trying to maintain a legit account, since just having the menu installed is technically a violation of the R* ToS. It carries a risk of getting your account banned/reset just for having it loaded, even if you are only using it for the protection features. People need to be aware of the risk and willing to take it. It is unfortunate that the mod-menu community is more responsive to combating these abuses that R* itself.