PSA: Cheat Awareness, Discussion, Notices & News

[Gaffa 6,883]

Current Major Warnings (PC):
None
 

Current Minor Warnings (PC):

Be aware of the usual - teleporting, invincibility, traps and game crashes

 

Current Notices (Console):

None

 

 

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Original post from the 9th of April, 2017:

 

Spoiler

Q) Okay so is it definitely time to stay out of public GTA Online sessions if you're a PC player?
A) Quite possibly, as other people can now change your rank remotely, in addition to other things.

Explanation: Coders have recently discovered or perhaps more correctly been told, how to set another player's rank - something that will stick on your character unless you contact Rockstar Support and have that reversed, OR you delete that GTA Online character. This 'function' has already been included in a recent mod menu update that was created for the Online version of the PC game.

The major issue in my eyes is that as the innocent player minding their own business and playing the game properly, you've got no idea this sort of thing is about to happen to you, and very little recourse as just explained, and if that cheater using such mod menu sets your rank to 8000, well then you only need to use your imagination to realise what unfolds as a result (a lot more reports and cheater accusations are just two things).

That's not all either.

You can also be kicked from the session you're playing in, whether other players have reported you, voted to kick you or otherwise, again through the use of such mod menus, whereby the cheater only needs to browse to your name, select it, and a number of exploitative and griefing options are available.
When you're kicked, you will most likely be greeted with the message "Failed to find a compatible GTA Online session".

Finally, there's one other thing which is probably the most important - so I hope you got to this stage of the post. Your cash can also be taken - and because Rockstar Games has continually failed to add a third type of GTA Online monetary balance (Maze Bank/ Wallet Cash/ Shark Cards), it means those players who have spent real life money on the game, could see that disappearing.
This is not anything new - seasoned PC players will know about "insurance fraud" and it also hasn't been implemented in any mod menu - that I'm aware of - just yet, but it's definitely something to be on the watch for.

I hate to give these guys any more views, but I thought I'd leave a video below as a way of 'proving to the naysayers' that it is possible.
<This video has been removed from the YouTube channel it was posted on.>

Thanks for reading, take it easy out there!

 

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Old Notices:

 

Spoiler

EDITED 10/ APR/ 2017 - Thread title updated (thanks staff) to reflect on updated information that a 'new' type of fraud is possible, depleting whatever money you've earned at a fast rate, and that we may shortly see outfits being modified by these mod menu users.
If you do have any outfits you've worked hard for (limited/ special items) or don't want to see changed, please take pictures of your character outfits so that you have some form of recourse in the event that the problem cannot be rectified yourself.

 

EDITED 11/ APR/ 2017 -
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h92ooiJydZQ&feature=youtu.be - this video used to show insurance fraud taking place on another player.

 

EDITED 18 / APR / 2017 -

Some of these mod menus are starting to be shut down now, with similar notices to the below. Cheating in GTA Online on the PC version will be a far more rare occurrence now, however it will still be happening. For the most part though - legitimate players no longer need to fear public GTA Online sessions.

"After discussions with Take-Two Interactive, effective immediately we are ceasing all maintenance, development and distribution of the XXX

cheat menu services. We will be donating our proceeds to a charity designated by Take-Two. We apologize for any and all problems XXX
has caused to the Grand Theft Auto Online community."

(Where XXX is, it's one of the menu names).

 

EDIT 18 / JAN / 2018 -

Got news in from a credible source - someone who lurks on sites that promotes cheats for the game and apparently, most menus out there are detected as of right now, so people are getting banned left and right.

EDIT 09 / JUN / 2018 - Click for more info

Some rampant cheating has been going on lately with players getting put into Bad Sport lobbies again, with their rank-adjusted to something much higher than the previous value. Open a Rockstar Support Ticket if that happens to you. 

 

EDIT 16 / OCT / 2018 - Click for more info
Apparently a menu is now releasing features which can affect players in single player and essentially has a few of the same powers a Rockstar Team Staff has . Consider NOT playing this game again until all this is patched. 

 

EDIT 22 / NOV / 2018 - Click for more info
Now there's 'mass badsporting' going on, whereby malicious menu users are able to send other players to bad sport. I believe this is being done by sending reports for offensive user-generated content that have a substantially higher weighting than usual - if they were legitimate reports being made by someone without an inflated "report strength". Could be wrong there though. 

 

EDIT 08 / FEB / 2019 - 

Some malicious types of modding seem to have been suppressed to an extent. There's still going to be stuff like being booted out of your vehicles randomly, kicked out of the session or forced back to single player, as well as the old school stuff of being set on fire or dildo's being shoved up your ass. Overall however, it's best to be vigilant and wary of what's going on and if in doubt, just find a new session. It may be a hassle, but consider that being messed with could be more or a hassle. 

 

EDIT 18 / JUL / 2019 - 

I'm hearing an increasing number of reports about mods being a thing on consoles - particularly the PlayStation 4 platform. Examples include money dropping and being ranked up (one user stated they'd been ranked up to 8000). 
The first example I saw of this was at the back end of 2017 if I recall correctly, but it's seemingly a more prominent thing. I guess it was only a matter of time before these systems got cracked open. 

 

EDIT 08 / AUG / 2019 - Click for more info

Rockstar Games (Rockstar Support) has issued a public statement regarding an update to the game's anti-cheat systems. This hopefully means some positive news on the horizon. 

Edited August 8 by Gaffa
Updates

[SoDank_ItPainsMe 1,200]

Are you telling us that you tested this menu and found out first hand that rank manipulation sticks? Or that you just watched this video and are going from that?

[iSaint9 3,838]

This is one of the reasons I've stuck to SP. GTA Online on PC is full of crybabies and modders. And yes, I've been playing on a couple sessions before I said "f*ck it".

[SHADOW OPS 8,212]

I believe it is possible. Hackers are pieces of sh*t. I can afford a high end gaming rig but would never do it due to things like this. It's a shame things like this happen. With millions of players and thousand of cheaters I don't know how Rockstar could ever get ahead of all of them.

 

When you cut one head off the snake...

[Uncle Sikee Atric 10,408]

 

It's a mod menu, as used by failures and useless players to make them feel better....

 

There's nothing here I didn't already know and suspect, and since I rarely play GTA Online anymore, I am not really bothered.

 

Let the failures have their fun. The game was ruined when it was launched without the necessary safeguards.

Edited April 9, 2017 by Uncle Sikee Atric

[Gaffa 6,883]

Are you telling us that you tested this menu and found out first hand that rank manipulation sticks? Or that you just watched this video and are going from that?

 

No I've heard several reports of it.

 

It's real.

[MeatSafeMurderer 1,224]

Oh...for f*ck sake.

Even if I don't run into cheaters that often this is enough to keep me off GTA:O for good. Time to get that FiveM server up and running me thinks.

 

Oh...and calling these people "hackers" is an insult to both the cracking and hacking communities; both of which are filled with talented individuals with great skill.

[The Wandering Hunter 2,656]

but pc master race right?

 

 

jk

i want to go to pc but can't because of this bs

[Quinn_flower 14,003]

Yikes good thing I stay out of public. Yea I know I have no friends but safe than sorry

[⁣V⁣ 6,800]

Haven't seen a cheater in an assisted aim session before. They're all in Free Aim (mostly because everyone on PC is playing with a kb/m and they prefer free aim).

Just encountered few cheaters the other day in an Assisted Aim session. But they didn't do nothing, except teleport everyone in the session at the same spot for an easy kill.

 

That being said, thank God the methods for making a Public "Solo" Session still work. So I can start Piracy Prevention and "lag out" of the lobby and invite my friends into a friendly session.

[Mazawattee 2,136]

This only makes me want to play GTA Online PC even more. I want to have an all out war with a bunch of modders. Sounds like fun.

[SHADOW OPS 8,212]

This only makes me want to play GTA Online PC even more. I want to have an all out war with a bunch of modders. Sounds like fun.

If you ever come across a modder it's not a war. They remove your weapon wheel, turn your character into a naked old man and teleport behind you and shotgun you in the head.

[puredorian 217]

Yep, that video game me a cancer.

 

I could see this coming from a miles away, now only imagine what it would be when Rock* is finally done with updating a game, a wasteland of losers mess.

 

And since only 5 incompetent developers are working right now on GTAO project, I expect nothing in coming years, it's too late now, not even mention that they can't fix the game alone. https://www.rockstargames.com/newswire/article/52451/update-targeting-cheaters-in-gta-online this article still gives me good laugh though.

 

f*ck Sharks, wish somebody would crash their Shark Server too, so Rockstar would finally be pissed to fix this once and for all.

Edited April 9, 2017 by puredorian

[DarkSavageDeathlyCloud 11,042]

"shuts down game"

[eyman 9,283]

Credit: CyborgWarrior

Edited April 9, 2017 by eyman

[nm69 253]

Somebody already asked R* to ban the user. Although I can not find the user TabbinaBearina on Socialclub anymore, I wonder if they changed it to something else after launching the video.
Would upvoting somebody else's old ticket work? Give it a try here:

https://support.rockstargames.com/hc/en-us/community/posts/115000231088-KICK-ban-to-youtube-ForceHax-is-cheat-mods-hack

[Mazawattee 2,136]

 

This only makes me want to play GTA Online PC even more. I want to have an all out war with a bunch of modders. Sounds like fun.

If you ever come across a modder it's not a war. They remove your weapon wheel, turn your character into a naked old man and teleport behind you and shotgun you in the head.

 

You've got to fight fire with fire!

[Black-Dragon96 7,188]

 

This only makes me want to play GTA Online PC even more. I want to have an all out war with a bunch of modders. Sounds like fun.

If you ever come across a modder it's not a war. They remove your weapon wheel, turn your character into a naked old man and press a button to instantly kill the whole lobby.

Fixed that for you.

[SHADOW OPS 8,212]

 

 

This only makes me want to play GTA Online PC even more. I want to have an all out war with a bunch of modders. Sounds like fun.

If you ever come across a modder it's not a war. They remove your weapon wheel, turn your character into a naked old man and teleport behind you and shotgun you in the head.

 

You've got to fight fire with fire!

They are a forest fire. You are a match.

[Gaffa 6,883]

If someone gets fed up, they'll just crash your game too, forcing you to restart GTAV.

 

Oh, and had a couple of reports of rank 8000's now - whether they were like that for a while or if it's just been set is unknown. Ludicrous.

[DarkSavageDeathlyCloud 11,042]

If someone gets fed up, they'll just crash your game too, forcing you to restart GTAV.

 

Oh, and had a couple of reports of rank 8000's now - whether they were like that for a while or if it's just been set is unknown. Ludicrous.

Worst of all is that the reports themselves are said to give people bad sport points.

No idea tbh if this has always been the case, but yea, really, a report IMO should simply notify rockstar of sh*t happening and then them dealing with it, not giving people automaticly BS points.

[Gaffa 6,883]

 

If someone gets fed up, they'll just crash your game too, forcing you to restart GTAV.

 

Oh, and had a couple of reports of rank 8000's now - whether they were like that for a while or if it's just been set is unknown. Ludicrous.

Worst of all is that the reports themselves are said to give people bad sport points.

No idea tbh if this has always been the case, but yea, really, a report IMO should simply notify rockstar of sh*t happening and then them dealing with it, not giving people automaticly BS points.

 

 

And isn't it ironic that, with a mod menu, those bad sport points can be removed?

 

Leaving on a pun: the farce is strong with this one...

[JamesTKirk 249]

It cannot possibly "stick", the level change. Or at the very least, if it does "stick", then that means it's been changed on Rockstar's master database where all our info is kept... and that means they are literally hacking Rockstars servers via some online lobby hack.

 

Sorry, I just don't buy it. Can't happen like that, or even if somehow it can, Rockstar can easily "see" the hack take place (such as my level goes instantly from 108 to 250, an obvious red flag) and can therefore easily catch it and remedy it.

[Gaffa 6,883]

It cannot possibly "stick", the level change. Or at the very least, if it does "stick", then that means it's been changed on Rockstar's master database where all our info is kept... and that means they are literally hacking Rockstars servers via some online lobby hack.

 

Sorry, I just don't buy it. Can't happen like that, or even if somehow it can, Rockstar can easily "see" the hack take place (such as my level goes instantly from 108 to 250, an obvious red flag) and can therefore easily catch it and remedy it.

 

I'm not in a position to tell you what to do, all I can say is "ask someone who's got access to it and try it out". I don't know why you would think they're hacking servers - if someone drops money on you, does that stick? Of course it does - they're not hacking servers to do that...

 

Whilst the rank change(s) can be easily monitored and reverted, it DOES mean anyone that gets affected must contact Rockstar Games for it to be rectified - it won't happen automatically.

[The Wandering Hunter 2,656]

It cannot possibly "stick", the level change. Or at the very least, if it does "stick", then that means it's been changed on Rockstar's master database where all our info is kept... and that means they are literally hacking Rockstars servers via some online lobby hack.

 

Sorry, I just don't buy it. Can't happen like that, or even if somehow it can, Rockstar can easily "see" the hack take place (such as my level goes instantly from 108 to 250, an obvious red flag) and can therefore easily catch it and remedy it.

... if they could be bothered

 

they can't be.

[JamesTKirk 249]

When I got cash from a hacker, I deposited it into my bank in increments of 100K to try and avoid detection. LOL I think in the real world they call that "structuring" and it's probably the easiest and biggest red flag there is for the federal fools... but Rockstar didn't catch my obvious red flag of about 20 or 30 deposits of 100K within a 5 minute window... so maybe you guys do have a point. hahaha

[DarkSavageDeathlyCloud 11,042]

Man, this kind of sh*t makes cheating more tempting and tempting.

I swear, if there somehow was an exploit that would not per se a glitch, like suddenly being capable to sell high end cars of the street without timer or something, i pretty much would be at it already.

 

Especially if you consider that currently they are trying as best as they can to fight cheaters, it becomes all pretty laughable.

[update_lsc 1,666]

When I got cash from a hacker, I deposited it into my bank in increments of 100K to try and avoid detection. LOL I think in the real world they call that "structuring" and it's probably the easiest and biggest red flag there is for the federal fools... but Rockstar didn't catch my obvious red flag of about 20 or 30 deposits of 100K within a 5 minute window... so maybe you guys do have a point. hahaha

...when will people realise that it doesn't matter whether you deposit it all at once, deposit only a bit at a time or keep it as cash. It's in your account anyways. Whoever came up with this brilliant idea that rockstar can't see cheated cash unless you deposit it, is an idiot.

Edited April 10, 2017 by update_lsc

[Quinn_flower 14,003]

Man, this kind of sh*t makes cheating more tempting and tempting.

I swear, if there somehow was an exploit that would not per se a glitch, like suddenly being capable to sell high end cars of the street without timer or something, i pretty much would be at it already.

 

Especially if you consider that currently they are trying as best as they can to fight cheaters, it becomes all pretty laughable.

If there's a mod menu to give me every single limited edition clothing would be nice. Cause I'm tired of waiting and waiting for one specific shirt to come.

[FourFingersOfFun 944]

Currently, I believe all the major loser menus have insurance fraud in them, I know Force menu does but it's only for people who have spent 100 f*cking dollars for access to that menu, and it can't even do anything since rockstar has disabled insurance and bad sport points for blowing up PV's on PC for nearly a year now.