Why grief?

[Big Molio]

This is about "griefing" which usually means bullying. If you steal a car in a video game, then of course it's not the same, if you do that in real life. GTA car is computer generated image.

But if you grief a real person intentionally in online game over and over again, then how come it's "just a videogame", if your goal is to make some REAL person unhappy? What's the difference between that and real life bullying? (other than in real life there are often consequences)

 

If you griefers like to make people unhappy in video games, then why not just go around tasering NPC's in story mode? What's the difference? It couldn't possibly be that you want bully real people..?

I'm damn sure that people who grief people online, do same thing in real life environment, how could they possibly not?

 

Player on the other side of the screen is a real person, not a content of video game. Was I clear enough this time around?

You are very clear thank you, and I still think you are talking a load of bollocks, quite frankly.

 

It's a game. If the people playing this online game cannot hack the fact that there are going to be other players whose play methods will be to cause havoc and disrupt what others are doing, which is well within the general culture and parameters of that game, then they shouldn't be playing it.

 

Equating dicking about on GTA online to bullying and harassment, and suggesting that people who "grief" in this game must be bullies in real life is the biggest load of horsesh*t I've ever read.

 

You should feel embarrassed coming out with that rubbish, because you do genuine victims of bullying a disservice.

[Collibosher]

 

This is about "griefing" which usually means bullying. If you steal a car in a video game, then of course it's not the same, if you do that in real life. GTA car is computer generated image.

But if you grief a real person intentionally in online game over and over again, then how come it's "just a videogame", if your goal is to make some REAL person unhappy? What's the difference between that and real life bullying? (other than in real life there are often consequences)

 

If you griefers like to make people unhappy in video games, then why not just go around tasering NPC's in story mode? What's the difference? It couldn't possibly be that you want bully real people..?

I'm damn sure that people who grief people online, do same thing in real life environment, how could they possibly not?

 

Player on the other side of the screen is a real person, not a content of video game. Was I clear enough this time around?

You are very clear thank you, and I still think you are talking a load of bollocks, quite frankly.

 

It's a game. If the people playing this online game cannot hack the fact that there are going to be other players whose play methods will be to cause havoc and disrupt what others are doing, which is well within the general culture and parameters of that game, then they shouldn't be playing it.

 

Equating dicking about on GTA online to bullying and harassment, and suggesting that people who "grief" in this game must be bullies in real life is the biggest load of horsesh*t I've ever read.

 

You should feel embarrassed coming out with that rubbish, because you do genuine victims of bullying a disservice.

 

I do agree that getting griefed is very avoidable, but the point here kinda is not the victims, but the griefers and why on earth they do that. Griefer is the person who gets the enjoyment from other peoples misery. Griefer goes after someone, that in in mind. The "victim" may not even feel being griefed, but the griefer does not necessary know that, he/she just assumes he "got" his victim.

 

Assuming that person who does GTA Online bullying, may carry same behavior in real life is the biggest load of something you've ever read? You sure about that?

If someone likes to "grief" people in online game and gets enjoyment from that, then with what logic that griefer doesn't get enjoyment from griefing in facebook or in real life?

[SHADOW OPS]

I like explosions. Don't read much into it more than that.

[Big Molio]

I do agree that getting griefed is very avoidable, but the point here kinda is not the victims, but the griefers and why on earth they do that. Griefer is the person who gets the enjoyment from other peoples misery. Griefer goes after someone, that in in mind. The "victim" may not even feel being griefed, but the griefer does not necessary know that, he/she just assumes he "got" his victim.

 

Assuming that person who does GTA Online bullying, may carry same behavior in real life is the biggest load of something you've ever read? You sure about that?

If someone likes to "grief" people in online game and gets enjoyment from that, then with what logic that griefer doesn't get enjoyment from griefing in facebook or in real life?

Some people who grief in online games may well be bullies in real life, because all sorts of people play video games. You have made a distinct link however and equated the first as being a definite indicator of the second, and that carries about as much water as those people who try to blame videogames for all kinds of society's ills.

 

These players are not "victims", or being bullied, they are simply being beaten at a video game in a manner that you don't particularly like or agree with, but within the established parameters of the game mechanics.

[Collibosher]

Some people who grief in online games may well be bullies in real life, because all sorts of people play video games. You have made a distinct link however and equated the first as being a definite indicator of the second, and that carries about as much water as those people who try to blame videogames for all kinds of society's ills.

 

These players are not "victims", or being bullied, they are simply being beaten at a video game in a manner that you don't particularly like or agree with, but within the established parameters of the game mechanics.

 

Great, now we are getting somewhere (or nowhere) The word "grief" really is vague term, but the definition in GTA it usually refers to that when someone is unnecessarily douchebag.

You win the race or deathmatch = you beat someone, You fly around with the most over powered Hydra, killing everyone or ruining peoples operations = why? You don't really get nothing from it, usually even lose money, everyone hates you, and yet this griefer gets enjoyment from that somehow? What is the psychology behind this?!??!?!

That's the point of this thread and I got into this, because griefing is against everything what I've been taught and how human should behave, so I just can't believe there are people here doing and defending griefing. Grief NPC's, they don't mind...

[Belgarel]

These players are not "victims", or being bullied, they are simply being beaten at a video game in a manner that you don't particularly like or agree with, but within the established parameters of the game mechanics.

I was playing Ultima Online back when the word "griefing" came about to describe abuse /outside/ of established parameters of the game mechanics. In UO, this might mean exploiting a boat to fly underground and delete the contents of your home, or blocking off the entrance to your home with exploited 255 stone turnips that could not be removed (UO had some pretty impressive bugs). It only took a month before people started calling everything griefing, though. It was never intended to mean things like being PvPed in a PvP game. It makes no sense used like that, yet here we are.

[CosmicBuffalo]

When I blow up people's crates with my jet, I now think about this thread. And its not even greifing. Griefing is repeatedly interupting/killing a player over and over for little to no reason. Griefing is fun, getting griefed not so fun.

 

If you havent ever tried griefing, well you are missing out on some compelling gameplay.

 

If you are too moral or whatever to greif for no other reason than the player isnt passive, grief the people who go out of their way to shoot first and try to leave. If you cant defend yourself, well you need to need to practice some. It becomes a game of chess with someone who know what they are doing.

[Prince_Polaris]

My brother just got into this game, and boy... when someone starts to greif him he reports them and goes on a rank about how the TOS says 'no harassment'. He's 14 and pretty ridiculous, oh well, I'll admit he's good at the damn game when I need someone to fill in on a heist or deliver a car.

[Big Molio]

Great, now we are getting somewhere (or nowhere) The word "grief" really is vague term, but the definition in GTA it usually refers to that when someone is unnecessarily douchebag.

You win the race or deathmatch = you beat someone, You fly around with the most over powered Hydra, killing everyone or ruining peoples operations = why? You don't really get nothing from it, usually even lose money, everyone hates you, and yet this griefer gets enjoyment from that somehow? What is the psychology behind this?!??!?!

That's the point of this thread and I got into this, because griefing is against everything what I've been taught and how human should behave, so I just can't believe there are people here doing and defending griefing. Grief NPC's, they don't mind...

 

The psychology comes down to the fact that it is merely a game, and all anybody ever loses is time, which we all waste by playing the game in the first place. "Griefing" is just another of those activities that you can do in a game without any recourse because it is simply a game, so people have fun doing it. The behavioural aspect of it is irrelevant because being a dick in a game is not reflective of how a person may be in reality.

 

I don't particularly mind. If two kids want to let rip in Hydras and tear the session up, good for them. If it is impinging on what I want to do, I'll find another session. Otherwise, I see it as a challenge to avoid their rampage or even try and take them on, because that's fun too.

 

The problem is that the idea of griefing in GTAO has spread not only to that kind of play, but the type of adversarial play that comes from the CEO and BIKER jobs.

Edited April 18, 2017 by Big Molio

[PhoenixLights]

I like explosions. Don't read much into it more than that.

Unless you're on the receiving end ... then they don't seem to go down so well http://gtaforums.com/topic/885432-beware-random-friend-requests/

[Black-Dragon96]

 

I like explosions. Don't read much into it more than that.

Unless you're on the receiving end ... then they don't seem to go down so well http://gtaforums.com/topic/885432-beware-random-friend-requests/Thats sadly how most griefers are. When they are the ones, with ghost org active sitting in a car with stickybombs ready to blow up someones shipment, its fair game for them. When they get a taste of their own medicine they start complaining.

I have encountered many griefers over the years, all were the same and thats why i belive that 90% of the people in here, who defend griefing behave that way. Its not griefing unless its done to them.

Edited April 18, 2017 by Black-Dragon96

[Guest]

This is about "griefing" which usually means bullying. If you steal a car in a video game, then of course it's not the same, if you do that in real life. GTA car is computer generated image.

 

 

But if you grief a real person intentionally in online game over and over again, then how come it's "just a videogame", if your goal is to make some REAL person unhappy? What's the difference between that and real life bullying? (other than in real life there are often consequences)

 

If you griefers like to make people unhappy in video games, then why not just go around tasering NPC's in story mode? What's the difference? It couldn't possibly be that you want bully real people..?

I'm damn sure that people who grief people online, do same thing in real life environment, how could they possibly not?

 

Player on the other side of the screen is a real person, not a content of video game. Was I clear enough this time around?

 

 

I've said this before and I will say it again. Video games and real life are not the same.

 

If you can not tell the difference I suggest you stop playing video games start reading factual books. Not fiction.

 

[Nyamber]

 

I like explosions. Don't read much into it more than that.

Unless you're on the receiving end ... then they don't seem to go down so well http://gtaforums.com/topic/885432-beware-random-friend-requests/

 

Griefers are hypocrites. What else is new?

[Furry_Monkey]

 

I like explosions. Don't read much into it more than that.

Unless you're on the receiving end ... then they don't seem to go down so well http://gtaforums.com/topic/885432-beware-random-friend-requests/

 

 

Thanks - I hadn't seen that. It gave me a chuckle over my morning coffee.

[CuteFaceJay]

People get their rocks off different ways than others. It's just how it is I don't hold people to it most of the time. Just log out or switch session if people get to you. I tent to just buy a pizza and eat it

[Urustay Gordov Matt D.]

 

 

I like explosions. Don't read much into it more than that.

Unless you're on the receiving end ... then they don't seem to go down so well http://gtaforums.com/topic/885432-beware-random-friend-requests/

 

Thanks - I hadn't seen that. It gave me a chuckle over my morning coffee.

Yeah lmao i had some hard laughs reading that. Thats what happens when someone beats a fantomatic real freeroam bad-ass like shadowoperative at his own game Edited April 18, 2017 by Urustay Gordov Matt D.

[Masochron]

Players grief others simply because they can. There are no consequences, and it's actually encouraged by Rockstar as a way to drain players of their cash. As to why players actually do it...That boils down to sadism, pure and simple. Millions of people play this game, and that includes sociopaths, or people with sociopathic tendencies. They do it because they get satisfaction from intentionally harming and screwing others over. If they could get away with griefing other people IRL, most of them would. And yes, it is mostly due to a complete lack of empathy. Not only do they NOT CARE about other players (IRL people in a virtual world), they take it a step further by actually receiving pleasure from the suffering and misfortune of others. Most of them would be diagnosed as being sociopaths IRL if they ever sat down with a psychologist.

 

Someone can spend hours filling a large warehouse. You can say "well, there's no IRL harm" but that's just a thinly veiled excuse. Someone spent hours of their time collecting crates, and when they go to sell, some sociopath in a jet comes along to ruin all their hard work in a matter of seconds...For no reason other than to be a dick. Don't try and say that "oh the game tells me to do so it's fine". You only get 2K as a reward for totally f*cking over another player, another real live person behind the screen. You didn't do it because of the notifications, or for the 2k "reward". You did it because you're a sociopath/borderline sociopath that gets off on the misery of others.

 

I understand that sociopath's brains are just wired differently...They really CAN'T help it, and there is no reliable treatment nor cure...But don't try and BS the rest of us. You do it because you're straight up f*cked in the head. Sociopaths are so empty and dead inside, devoid of any emotion and empathy, the ONLY WAY they can receive satisfaction is through the anguish of others.

 

Keep in mind I'm strictly talking about those that grief high profit sales and such. It's one thing to kill anyone and everyone in free roam...Screwing them out of hours of hard work for absolutely no reason is another thing entirely.

 

If you go out of your way to ruin people's sales, you ARE a sociopath...Or at least borderline. Just accept this truth for what it is, and keep on being cold, soul-less, apathetic dickheads. You don't care about anything anyway, so why fight it?

[Furry_Monkey]

Lots of utter bullsh*t that ends with...

 

If you go out of your way to ruin people's sales, you ARE a sociopath...Or at least borderline. Just accept this truth for what it is, and keep on being cold, soul-less, apathetic dickheads. You don't care about anything anyway, so why fight it?

 

Some people take this stuff far too seriously, and by "some people" I'm referring currently to you. While a sociopath may play GTA as a griefer, it DOES NOT mean that everyone that plays GTA as a griefer is a sociopath. Sorry, but that way of thinking is outright ridiculous and makes you look stupid.

 

I said it before and I'll say it again, now that a moron has given it more context...

 

Cats have tails, but not everything with a tail is a cat.

 

Everyone who makes a blanket statement is a moron.

 

And yes, that was meant to be ironic humour, for the low IQ members that didn't understand that previously

Edited April 18, 2017 by Furry_Monkey

[Urustay Gordov Matt D.]

Players grief others simply because they can. There are no consequences, and it's actually encouraged by Rockstar as a way to drain players of their cash. As to why players actually do it...That boils down to sadism, pure and simple. Millions of people play this game, and that includes sociopaths, or people with sociopathic tendencies. They do it because they get satisfaction from intentionally harming and screwing others over. If they could get away with griefing other people IRL, most of them would. And yes, it is mostly due to a complete lack of empathy. Not only do they NOT CARE about other players (IRL people in a virtual world), they take it a step further by actually receiving pleasure from the suffering and misfortune of others. Most of them would be diagnosed as being sociopaths IRL if they ever sat down with a psychologist.

 

Someone can spend hours filling a large warehouse. You can say "well, there's no IRL harm" but that's just a thinly veiled excuse. Someone spent hours of their time collecting crates, and when they go to sell, some sociopath in a jet comes along to ruin all their hard work in a matter of seconds...For no reason other than to be a dick. Don't try and say that "oh the game tells me to do so it's fine". You only get 2K as a reward for totally f*cking over another player, another real live person behind the screen. You didn't do it because of the notifications, or for the 2k "reward". You did it because you're a sociopath/borderline sociopath that gets off on the misery of others.

 

I understand that sociopath's brains are just wired differently...They really CAN'T help it, and there is no reliable treatment nor cure...But don't try and BS the rest of us. You do it because you're straight up f*cked in the head. Sociopaths are so empty and dead inside, devoid of any emotion and empathy, the ONLY WAY they can receive satisfaction is through the anguish of others.

 

Keep in mind I'm strictly talking about those that grief high profit sales and such. It's one thing to kill anyone and everyone in free roam...Screwing them out of hours of hard work for absolutely no reason is another thing entirely.

 

If you go out of your way to ruin people's sales, you ARE a sociopath...Or at least borderline. Just accept this truth for what it is, and keep on being cold, soul-less, apathetic dickheads. You don't care about anything anyway, so why fight it?

You are calling us sociopath in a game on where the only way to entertainment is to control a pixelated criminal to be able to kill other pixelated people?You are an hypocrite, otherwise you wouldnt have bought GTA 5 in the first place. GTA is all about killing and murdering, its the first game a sociopath would buy, so dont blame us, but blame yourself because its you who bought the wrong game. I guess you didnt even complete the singleplayer campaign. Edited April 18, 2017 by Urustay Gordov Matt D.

[.Vooodu.]

 

Players grief others simply because they can. There are no consequences, and it's actually encouraged by Rockstar as a way to drain players of their cash. As to why players actually do it...That boils down to sadism, pure and simple.

 

If you go out of your way to ruin people's sales, you ARE a sociopath...Or at least borderline. Just accept this truth for what it is, and keep on being cold, soul-less, apathetic dickheads. You don't care about anything anyway, so why fight it?

You are calling us sociopath in a game on where the only way to entertainment is to control a pixelated criminal to be able to kill other pixelated people?

 

I guess you didnt even complete the singleplayer campaign.

 

 

 

You're both wrong... Well the 1st guy more then the next. And somewhere in the middle is what GTA is all about. Its not about mindless murder, but it sure as hell ain't a snow flake game with cuddles and snuggles.

 

Hell even Trevor has some sort of code he lives by.

 

 

This game needs assholes... But assholes who claim they are not assholes.. are retarded or in denial..

 

 

If anything GTA is really about sticking it to assholes.. but not in a friendly way. No lube required.

 

The problem with gta is not the griefers.. But just how easy it is to be a prick due to op vehicles/vehicles.. and always on blips.

Edited April 18, 2017 by .Vooodu.

[Urustay Gordov Matt D.]

 

 

Players grief others simply because they can. There are no consequences, and it's actually encouraged by Rockstar as a way to drain players of their cash. As to why players actually do it...That boils down to sadism, pure and simple.

 

If you go out of your way to ruin people's sales, you ARE a sociopath...Or at least borderline. Just accept this truth for what it is, and keep on being cold, soul-less, apathetic dickheads. You don't care about anything anyway, so why fight it?

You are calling us sociopath in a game on where the only way to entertainment is to control a pixelated criminal to be able to kill other pixelated people?

 

I guess you didnt even complete the singleplayer campaign.

 

If anything GTA is really about sticking it to assholes.. but not in a friendly way. No lube required.

Exactly, i couldnt have said it better.A game about sticking it to assholes in a friendly way is the Sims, or in alternative there are lot of porn games on the internet anyway. Edited April 18, 2017 by Urustay Gordov Matt D.

[.Vooodu.]

 

 

 

Players grief others simply because they can. There are no consequences, and it's actually encouraged by Rockstar as a way to drain players of their cash. As to why players actually do it...That boils down to sadism, pure and simple.

 

If you go out of your way to ruin people's sales, you ARE a sociopath...Or at least borderline. Just accept this truth for what it is, and keep on being cold, soul-less, apathetic dickheads. You don't care about anything anyway, so why fight it?

You are calling us sociopath in a game on where the only way to entertainment is to control a pixelated criminal to be able to kill other pixelated people?

 

I guess you didnt even complete the singleplayer campaign.

 

If anything GTA is really about sticking it to assholes.. but not in a friendly way. No lube required.

Exactly, i couldnt have said it better.The best game about sticking it to assholes in a friendly way is the Sims, or in alternative there are lot of porn games on the internet anyway

 

 

 

I mean really.. Without assholes.. this game would be sooo f*ckin boring.

 

People need to learn to love to hate. Its ok to hate 'griefers'. But ya gotta love them too.

[Urustay Gordov Matt D.]

 

 

 

 

Players grief others simply because they can. There are no consequences, and it's actually encouraged by Rockstar as a way to drain players of their cash. As to why players actually do it...That boils down to sadism, pure and simple.

 

If you go out of your way to ruin people's sales, you ARE a sociopath...Or at least borderline. Just accept this truth for what it is, and keep on being cold, soul-less, apathetic dickheads. You don't care about anything anyway, so why fight it?

You are calling us sociopath in a game on where the only way to entertainment is to control a pixelated criminal to be able to kill other pixelated people?

 

I guess you didnt even complete the singleplayer campaign.

 

If anything GTA is really about sticking it to assholes.. but not in a friendly way. No lube required.

Exactly, i couldnt have said it better.The best game about sticking it to assholes in a friendly way is the Sims, or in alternative there are lot of porn games on the internet anyway

 

 

I mean really.. Without assholes.. this game would be sooo f*ckin boring.

 

People need to learn to love to hate. Its ok to hate 'griefers'. But ya gotta love them too.

We are all assholes, its in the human nature to be an asshole, because all in all we are animals.The difference between assholes and non-assholes is that the non-assholes are lying to themself.Otherwise they wouldnt eat meat which comes from slaughterhouses where cows, pigs and other animals get tortured to hell before getting slaughtered, or wouldnt live such a beaityful life in a first-world country where all the resources come from exploiting people from third world countries, like shoes, dresses and that sh*t.

[Big Molio]

Players grief others simply because they can. There are no consequences, and it's actually encouraged by Rockstar as a way to drain players of their cash. As to why players actually do it...That boils down to sadism, pure and simple. Millions of people play this game, and that includes sociopaths, or people with sociopathic tendencies. They do it because they get satisfaction from intentionally harming and screwing others over. If they could get away with griefing other people IRL, most of them would. And yes, it is mostly due to a complete lack of empathy. Not only do they NOT CARE about other players (IRL people in a virtual world), they take it a step further by actually receiving pleasure from the suffering and misfortune of others. Most of them would be diagnosed as being sociopaths IRL if they ever sat down with a psychologist.

 

Someone can spend hours filling a large warehouse. You can say "well, there's no IRL harm" but that's just a thinly veiled excuse. Someone spent hours of their time collecting crates, and when they go to sell, some sociopath in a jet comes along to ruin all their hard work in a matter of seconds...For no reason other than to be a dick. Don't try and say that "oh the game tells me to do so it's fine". You only get 2K as a reward for totally f*cking over another player, another real live person behind the screen. You didn't do it because of the notifications, or for the 2k "reward". You did it because you're a sociopath/borderline sociopath that gets off on the misery of others.

 

I understand that sociopath's brains are just wired differently...They really CAN'T help it, and there is no reliable treatment nor cure...But don't try and BS the rest of us. You do it because you're straight up f*cked in the head. Sociopaths are so empty and dead inside, devoid of any emotion and empathy, the ONLY WAY they can receive satisfaction is through the anguish of others.

 

Keep in mind I'm strictly talking about those that grief high profit sales and such. It's one thing to kill anyone and everyone in free roam...Screwing them out of hours of hard work for absolutely no reason is another thing entirely.

 

If you go out of your way to ruin people's sales, you ARE a sociopath...Or at least borderline. Just accept this truth for what it is, and keep on being cold, soul-less, apathetic dickheads. You don't care about anything anyway, so why fight it?

 

You have obviously put a lot of time and effort into this pseudo-psychiatric evaluation of GTAO players. Such a pity then that such an embarrassing load of f*cking rubbish is now in the public domain for people to laugh at.

 

The only common thread amongst any of us who play GTAO is that we do it for entertainment purposes. The only thing we lose, or waste, is our own time playing it.

 

It isn't our job, it isn't real, and it isn't any of the absolute bullsh*t that you have spewed forth above about "f*cking each other over ergo sociopathic behaviour"

 

It's a game.

 

And you are a Class 1 idiot.

Edited April 18, 2017 by Big Molio

[Black-Dragon96]

^ Its funny how everyone, who does not share your opinion, is an idiot.

But i guess if you got no real arguments, insulting people is the only thing that you can do.

[Big Molio]

^ Its funny how everyone, who does not share your opinion, is an idiot.

But i guess if you got no real arguments, insulting people is the only thing that you can do.

 

His arguments are not opinions, but completely unqualified and incorrect generalisations posing as facts about the mental state of people playing GTAO

 

That is what makes him (and anybody else who makes similar assertions) an idiot.

Edited April 19, 2017 by Big Molio

[gizmonomono]

Just change sessions. When the griefer is left alone in there he won't have anyone to grief. Also, vote and report.

[taga7a]

^ Its funny how everyone, who does not share your opinion, is an idiot.

But i guess if you got no real arguments, insulting people is the only thing that you can do.

 

It's alright I share your opinion along with others like yours.. kind of as I don't know the dynamics of 30 player free-roam lobbies but I try and avoid them as much as I can and leave it at that.

 

Anyway, If I knew someone in RL and I played any video game with that person there is a pretty good chance their mannerisms in real life reflect in their actions in a video game. Some examples, if they're a prick in RL then they're usually an asshole in whatever game we're playing. If they are a helpful person in RL, then they are in a video game too and I mostly see them in co-op games. I don't know anyone to my knowledge who griefs in any video game though so I can't comment on the psychology of those people who do those things but I'm sure it's for the best. My 2 cents.

[Black-Dragon96]

 

^ Its funny how everyone, who does not share your opinion, is an idiot.

But i guess if you got no real arguments, insulting people is the only thing that you can do.

It's alright I share your opinion along with others like yours.. kind of as I don't know the dynamics of 30 player free-roam lobbies but I try and avoid them as much as I can and leave it at that.

 

Anyway, If I knew someone in RL and I played any video game with that person there is a pretty good chance their mannerisms in real life reflect in their actions in a video game. Some examples, if they're a prick in RL then they're usually an asshole in whatever game we're playing. If they are a helpful person in RL, then they are in a video game too and I mostly see them in co-op games. I don't know anyone to my knowledge who griefs in any video game though so I can't comment on the psychology of those people who do those things but I'm sure it's for the best. My 2 cents.

Exactly.

I agree that someone who is a prick in a videogame is not nessecarily a prick in real life (most people are but not everyone is).

But someone who is a prick in reallife is probably a prick in a videogame.

 

People who are pricks in a game probably are it, because they cant be a prick in reallife. Thats the reason why we play games, to be who we want to be, to do what we deep down in our hearts want to do, to escape reality.

Playing a game without any direct consequences for the actions (of the person who does these actions) sometimes brings out the worst in people and i dont blame them for it because thats simply human nature.

I blame people who know that they are a prick and hide behind excuses so they dont have to admit that they are a prick and i blame people who are a prick and then start crying that they are getting kicked by people who do not like pricks.

You are totally free to be an a**hole in gta online but if you interact with real people (even if they are in a game) and are an a**hole to these people, you will have to face the consequences for your actions.

Edited April 19, 2017 by Black-Dragon96

[Big Molio]

 

^ Its funny how everyone, who does not share your opinion, is an idiot.

But i guess if you got no real arguments, insulting people is the only thing that you can do.

 

It's alright I share your opinion along with others like yours.. kind of as I don't know the dynamics of 30 player free-roam lobbies but I try and avoid them as much as I can and leave it at that.

 

Anyway, If I knew someone in RL and I played any video game with that person there is a pretty good chance their mannerisms in real life reflect in their actions in a video game. Some examples, if they're a prick in RL then they're usually an asshole in whatever game we're playing. If they are a helpful person in RL, then they are in a video game too and I mostly see them in co-op games. I don't know anyone to my knowledge who griefs in any video game though so I can't comment on the psychology of those people who do those things but I'm sure it's for the best. My 2 cents.

 

You don't know the dynamics of 30 player free-roam lobbies because you avoid them, but you'll throw your tuppence worth in anyway?

 

The reason that people grief in video-games like GTAO is because it is escapist, fantasy entertainment where the rules of normal life and behaviour don't apply, which is the exact opposite of what some of you seem to suggest. If I see a player stood idling at the side of the road, I'll run him over. Why? Because I can. That doesn't mean I have a tendency to want to run people over in real life, and the very idea that the game and reality are some way linked is nothing short of absurd.

 

Many griefers will be kids, they aren't psychopaths, they are just kids having fun. They see games exactly for what they are, a harmless game. They won't be concerned that you might have wasted all your day on a videogame fetching and carrying boxes or cars, and neither am I, because whatever it is you are doing on GTAO, it is all just time-wasting, plain and simple.

 

Nobody is doing anything profound or worthy on that game, so players can do what they like within the supplied mechanics of the game platform.

 

If you can't handle that, play something else.

Edited April 19, 2017 by Big Molio