Why grief?

[Urustay Gordov Matt D.]

The simple fact is that GTA:O is just full of dickheads. And there is like a 1/10 chance of finding a fun dude who's cool to hang around with doing crazy stuff. So when start the grieving with a jet for example, 9/10 people you kill, would have shot you on spot as it is. So killing those turdjugglers can be fun as they deserve it anyway, and they can't do anything to you. Because well, you're in a jet, and as long as you can strife and do a left or right turn, nobody except another jet can hit you. And then there is Passive mode if you think another jet is about to out-gun you.

 

And then you can start insulting said pilot thats now on your tail, go off-radar and hop out of passive mode and send him back to the ground. Where you can start grieving once more. And continue insulting offcourse. Because once you start, you might as well keep it going.

"GTA is full of dickheads"

Talks about GTA, a crime sim meant to release the inner assholeness of people who cant do so in real life because..FU*K SOCIETY.

If you want a game where the main purpose is to lick each other asses, try The Sims, you will like it

[Big Molio]

If you want a game where the main purpose is to lick each other asses, try The Sims, you will like it

 

Psst - don't mention the Sims.

[Hécate-II]

Godwin's point.

[Big Molio]

Nah, i can defend myself if i need to.

Also most of them left or started their own org/biker club to sell their own stuff, so no need to worry.

 

Most of the people i meet these days are cool and have the same intention that i have, making money in peace.

 

It's not a business simulator, it's a crime game. You don't get to make money in peace.

[Nyamber]

 

Nah, i can defend myself if i need to.

Also most of them left or started their own org/biker club to sell their own stuff, so no need to worry.

 

Most of the people i meet these days are cool and have the same intention that i have, making money in peace.

 

It's not a business simulator, it's a crime game. You don't get to make money in peace.

 

Wrong. I do. Enjoy being kicked.

[Jenkiiii]

If someone kills me out of the blue, even though I've got a bounty on my head, I see that as an excuse to grief them. Rightly or wrongly, I'm OK with that.

 

But the unprovoked targeting of another player shipping packages around the map is where I draw the line. If I've got an associate who does that, I will start up a VIP challenge or something to take focus off the other CEO or MC president.

 

The best feeling is driving down the street in a truck full of goods, passing another CEO coming in your direction in their own truck, honking horns, and going on your respective ways. That feeling of being in a ten player lobby and everyone just going about their business is serene. Seeing a known griefer enter your lobby, and then being notified that player x has 'left' because they have no friends, is something I also like. I've noticed that most griefers hang around in packs and don't feel comfortable on their own.

[Pedinhuh]

 

Nah, i can defend myself if i need to.Also most of them left or started their own org/biker club to sell their own stuff, so no need to worry.

 

Most of the people i meet these days are cool and have the same intention that i have, making money in peace.

It's not a business simulator, it's a crime game. You don't get to make money in peace.

I'm not sure if you know this, but CEOs abd MCs have a sh*t ton of buffed NPCs with assault rifles and other difficulties to deal with, so no, we don't get to make our money in "peace".

 

Get the f*ck out of your high horse and stop making your actions and yourself look good because in the end, you're being nothing more than a prick to anyone who hasn't stirred up heat with you.

[Arrows to Athens]

 

 

I simply cannot gain any satisfaction from blowing up what might be days of work for somebody. I think you have to be filled with hate and lack a conscience (be a sociopath) in order to actually enjoy doing that.

 

I can handle destroying somebody's cargo purchase about once a week at the most without feeling guilty. Any more than once a week and I feel really dirty and bad about myself... though I wouldn't really know because I think I have only destroyed about 10 cargo purchases in my life.

 

I would NEVER intentionally destroy a person's cargo SALE, unless the person was an obvious griefer, modder, hacker, glitcher, suicide spammer, or verbally offensive loser, but those degenerates never do things like sell cargo because they don't have the skill or patience or interest to do anything other than troll other people.

You chose to deliver the goods in a PUBLIC session, so you accept the fact that it will be a challenge for you. If you get killed, or your good gets destroyed, then tough luck. In free roam, there are no rules, and there's reason why your goods are painted on the map. You either play in a public session, where anything goes, or you change your MTU settings to 850, and then do it in an empty public session, like I did. What you do in a virtual video game does not determine your personality in real life. Stop being a child and grow up.

First of all we are forced to do it in Public since it is impossible to do it in invite only or crew sessions.

The thing with solo public is (atleast on PC) you cant controll if people join or not.

I had it happening that 17 people joined my solo public session during the time that i customised the car in, because the game dumped the leaving people of a full adversery mode lobby into my solo public lobby.

 

Change your MTU settings to 850, and it'll put you into an empty public session. I did this and filled up my warehouse with crates in no time. It's piss easy. If you don't want to do that, then don't cry and moan when players come after you in a public lobby.

[jeremy813]

 

 

 

I am an adult who plays video games. I kill the player near me because I do not want them to kill me. It is as simple as that.

...

Playing GTA Online for over 3 years has taught me that 90% of the time the player driving toward me wants to kill me.

That doesn't sound like a good excuse to me. Yes, 90% of times the player will try to kill you, but some non-pvp encounters turn to be so good that it's worth the risk.

 

A few weeks ago there was a mentally unstable guy (completely red) that approached my blip and stopped. I could shoot him without a problem, but didn't. Turns out he was just interested in the Ramp Buggy.

 

Btw, you can still be proactive without shooting players on sight. Use your horn, keep moving a bit and keep watching for telegraphs. For example, if the player breaks the window, make a headshot

It's not meant to be an excuse. I don't like dying, so If they come close to me without sending a message saying they're friendly I will kill them first. If they send me a message first I'll give them the benefit of the doubt. If they kill me then I'll spawn kill them until they leave.

 

You are right in the sense that I am probably missing out on meeting a few cool people. I'm aware of that and have made the decision to protect myself and miss out on meeting the 10% of people that meant me no harm.

Edited April 17, 2017 by jeremy813

[Jenkiiii]

Moaning about griefing seems to be just as pointless as the people who constantly do it.

 

It's part of the game and something we have to deal with. Personally I just leave them to it because no matter how hard I try to understand the griefer mentality, I can't do it, and I don't want to spend my evenings trying to combat or police what I don't understand.

 

Rockstar encouraged griefing from the start with the ability to place bounties on other people. It's an inherent part of GTA online and gaming culture and moaning about it serves no other purpose than to get your knickers in a twist.

[Black-Dragon96]

 

Nah, i can defend myself if i need to.Also most of them left or started their own org/biker club to sell their own stuff, so no need to worry.

 

Most of the people i meet these days are cool and have the same intention that i have, making money in peace.

It's not a business simulator, it's a crime game. You don't get to make money in peace.

Yes i do, because i play in solo public or in lobbys with friends and kick all the griefing dickheads out.

 

 

 

 

I simply cannot gain any satisfaction from blowing up what might be days of work for somebody. I think you have to be filled with hate and lack a conscience (be a sociopath) in order to actually enjoy doing that.

 

I can handle destroying somebody's cargo purchase about once a week at the most without feeling guilty. Any more than once a week and I feel really dirty and bad about myself... though I wouldn't really know because I think I have only destroyed about 10 cargo purchases in my life.

 

I would NEVER intentionally destroy a person's cargo SALE, unless the person was an obvious griefer, modder, hacker, glitcher, suicide spammer, or verbally offensive loser, but those degenerates never do things like sell cargo because they don't have the skill or patience or interest to do anything other than troll other people.

You chose to deliver the goods in a PUBLIC session, so you accept the fact that it will be a challenge for you. If you get killed, or your good gets destroyed, then tough luck. In free roam, there are no rules, and there's reason why your goods are painted on the map. You either play in a public session, where anything goes, or you change your MTU settings to 850, and then do it in an empty public session, like I did. What you do in a virtual video game does not determine your personality in real life. Stop being a child and grow up.

First of all we are forced to do it in Public since it is impossible to do it in invite only or crew sessions.

The thing with solo public is (atleast on PC) you cant controll if people join or not.

I had it happening that 17 people joined my solo public session during the time that i customised the car in, because the game dumped the leaving people of a full adversery mode lobby into my solo public lobby.

Change your MTU settings to 850, and it'll put you into an empty public session. I did this and filled up my warehouse with crates in no time. It's piss easy. If you don't want to do that, then don't cry and moan when players come after you in a public lobby.Well i want to play with friends so changeing the MTU is not an option also im not sure how to do this on PC.

 

Edit: Thanks Red

Edited April 17, 2017 by Black-Dragon96
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[Arrows to Athens]

 

 

Nah, i can defend myself if i need to.Also most of them left or started their own org/biker club to sell their own stuff, so no need to worry.

 

Most of the people i meet these days are cool and have the same intention that i have, making money in peace.

It's not a business simulator, it's a crime game. You don't get to make money in peace.

 

Yes i do, because i play in solo public or in lobbys with friends and kick all the griefing dickheads out.

 

 

 

 

I simply cannot gain any satisfaction from blowing up what might be days of work for somebody. I think you have to be filled with hate and lack a conscience (be a sociopath) in order to actually enjoy doing that.

 

I can handle destroying somebody's cargo purchase about once a week at the most without feeling guilty. Any more than once a week and I feel really dirty and bad about myself... though I wouldn't really know because I think I have only destroyed about 10 cargo purchases in my life.

 

I would NEVER intentionally destroy a person's cargo SALE, unless the person was an obvious griefer, modder, hacker, glitcher, suicide spammer, or verbally offensive loser, but those degenerates never do things like sell cargo because they don't have the skill or patience or interest to do anything other than troll other people.

You chose to deliver the goods in a PUBLIC session, so you accept the fact that it will be a challenge for you. If you get killed, or your good gets destroyed, then tough luck. In free roam, there are no rules, and there's reason why your goods are painted on the map. You either play in a public session, where anything goes, or you change your MTU settings to 850, and then do it in an empty public session, like I did. What you do in a virtual video game does not determine your personality in real life. Stop being a child and grow up.

 

First of all we are forced to do it in Public since it is impossible to do it in invite only or crew sessions.

The thing with solo public is (atleast on PC) you cant controll if people join or not.

I had it happening that 17 people joined my solo public session during the time that i customised the car in, because the game dumped the leaving people of a full adversery mode lobby into my solo public lobby.

 

Change your MTU settings to 850, and it'll put you into an empty public session. I did this and filled up my warehouse with crates in no time. It's piss easy. If you don't want to do that, then don't cry and moan when players come after you in a public lobby.

 

Well i want to play with friends so changeing the MTU is not an option also im not sure how to do this on PC.

 

Edit: Sorry cant merge posts because im on the phone.

 

You can invite your friends then.

 

''also im not sure how to do this on PC.''

 

Uh, Google it? YouTube?

[StangOne50]

Moaning about griefing seems to be just as pointless as the people who constantly do it.

 

It's part of the game and something we have to deal with. Personally I just leave them to it because no matter how hard I try to understand the griefer mentality, I can't do it, and I don't want to spend my evenings trying to combat or police what I don't understand.

 

Rockstar encouraged griefing from the start with the ability to place bounties on other people. It's an inherent part of GTA online and gaming culture and moaning about it serves no other purpose than to get your knickers in a twist.

Exactly. You guys can cry about griefing till you have no tears left and it will not change anything. All you guys are doing is giving the griefers a good laugh and the motivation to continue griefing.

[Big Molio]

The best feeling is driving down the street in a truck full of goods, passing another CEO coming in your direction in their own truck, honking horns, and going on your respective ways. That feeling of being in a ten player lobby and everyone just going about their business is serene

 

It's not as good a feeling as being crouched behind a wall in ghost having laid a street full of sticky bombs in the road and then obliterating your truck as you cheerfully pass my ambush.

Wrong. I do. Enjoy being kicked.

 

Meh, that's because you're a baby.

[D9fred95]

It's not as good a feeling as being crouched behind a wall in ghost having laid a street full of sticky bombs in the road and then obliterating your truck as you cheerfully pass my ambush.

 

There are many roads in LS, with bends and turns galore. You psychic or something?

[Black-Dragon96]

 

The best feeling is driving down the street in a truck full of goods, passing another CEO coming in your direction in their own truck, honking horns, and going on your respective ways. That feeling of being in a ten player lobby and everyone just going about their business is serene

It's not as good a feeling as being crouched behind a wall in ghost having laid a street full of sticky bombs in the road and then obliterating your truck as you cheerfully pass my ambush.

 

Well thats not as good as seeing you leaving the session because you got kicked.

This feeling can not be toped.

 

 

 

Wrong. I do. Enjoy being kicked.

Meh, that's because you are smart.

Fixed that for you.

 

Also you and johndoe still did not answer my question: "Why attack CEOs, who have no intention to fight you, instead of people who actually want to fight you?"

But i guess it gets answered by the above quote were its clearly seeable that you have to hide with ghostorg and put traps to win a fight. I think in an open fair fight you would not last long.

Edited April 17, 2017 by Black-Dragon96

[Big Molio]

Fixed that for you.

 

Don't change my posts dude, that is bad form.

 

I last long in open fights, I win races and I make money, all the while dodging griefers. It's still fun to get in front of a convoy of crates / product / cars and either destroy them or steal them though. That's part of the fun for me, to see if I can anticipate their route, hide out on the road and ambush them. (Not right at the garage or point of delivery, that's too easy)

There are many roads in LS, with bends and turns galore. You psychic or something?

 

Am I f*ck, but it's great when you guess right, go OTR and then get in front of deliveries without being spotted right? Also, there are a lot of routes without turn offs, you know where they are going, especially outside of the city.

Edited April 17, 2017 by Big Molio

[Semaj 2JZ♢]

Seeing as playing the game is completely optional, in all reality there is no "griefing". There's 1 tool who is doing the killing/destruction and 1 tool that is getting killed/destroyed. Staying in the place of the 1st tool is only the fault of the 2nd tool. Don't be a pathetic victim. You can leave. You can go passive. You literally have numerous options. Learning that these tools, who are the sadistic type out for cheap laughs, are mainly money cheats. They literally have nothing to lose. I don't give these feral monkeys the time of day.

 

Complaining about getting f*cked with, will get you nowhere.

[D9fred95]

There are many roads in LS, with bends and turns galore. You psychic or something?

 

Am I f*ck, but it's great when you guess right, go OTR and then get in front of deliveries without being spotted right?

 

Psychic dude, reading minds. It's not like the game tells you where the delivery is going, only the guy doing the delivery does.

 

Might be great for you, I'm not like that. The last few sessions I've been in have been great, CEO's and Bikers going about their ways. Griefer shows up, everyone in the session gangs up on him. I've made a lot of cash in the last few days. I wouldn't attack a shipment out of principle.

[Big Molio]

Psychic dude, reading minds. It's not like the game tells you where the delivery is going, only the guy doing the delivery does.

 

Might be great for you, I'm not like that. The last few sessions I've been in have been great, CEO's and Bikers going about their ways. Griefer shows up, everyone in the session gangs up on him. I've made a lot of cash in the last few days. I wouldn't attack a shipment out of principle.

 

This is what I don't buy into, this apparently unwritten set of principles that it is somehow bad form to attack a shipment.

[Black-Dragon96]

Well some people simply dont like it to be an asshole.

They live by the code:" What i dont want to have done to me, I do not do tonother players."

If everyone in a sessions lives by that code everyone has fun (excluding griefers).

 

Fixed that for you.

Don't change my posts dude, that is bad form.

I did not change you post dude, i changed the quote of your post. And thats something very normal around here, its "part of the fun" so to speak.

 

I last long in open fights, I win races and I make money, all the while dodging griefers. It's still fun to get in front of a convoy of crates / product / cars and either destroy them or steal them though. That's part of the fun for me, to see if I can anticipate their route, hide out on the road and ambush them. (Not right at the garage or point of delivery, that's too easy)

Ambushing something that is clearly visible for you is not that hard.

So your answer to my question is basicly: "I attack them because i like to see how good I am at ambushing a clearly visible target while hiding myself with ghost org and its fun to destroy other peoples stuff."

Well that explains a lot. Thank you.

Edited April 17, 2017 by Black-Dragon96

[D9fred95]

This is what I don't buy into, this apparently unwritten set of principles that it is somehow bad form to attack a shipment.

 

I blame the Online's economy. If everything wasn't so priced so high then attacking CEO/Biker work wouldn't be as much of an issue. We got things like $68k leather jackets for example, overpriced nonsense. Currently CEO/Biker work are the two fastest ways to make dough in this game (besides SC's) so having some dude blow up your stuff for lulz is a slap in the face. If the prices weren't so ridiculous then CEO/Biker work would not be the go to place for money making. It'd be a place to make a few extra bucks so getting griefed would be more inconvenient than how it is now where you lose money you desperately need. As a result it is an unwritten rule to not blow up cargo, it wouldn't be to the same extent if the games economy wasn't crap.

[rockstar legend]

i would never grief / ruin someones game experience , but only because im not a prick

[SHADOW OPS]

The only weapon I would call griefing is a jet.

[StangOne50]

 

Also you and johndoe still did not answer my question: "Why attack CEOs

 

 

 

When I kill them R says they are my rival, thats reason enough.

[rockstar legend]

i had some kid try to grief me/ annoy me earlier, killed him once then he sent a message saying he was going to f*ck me till i left , after two more kills for me he was the one that left .

 

this doesnt happen in other games i play , people get so pissy if you kill them on gtao and if they cant get revenge the tears start and the jets come out

[Big Molio]

i would never grief / ruin someones game experience , but only because im not a prick

Or rather, you have convinced yourself that there is some kind of quasi-moral code to play by in this online multiplayer crime game.

[Jenkiiii]

It's strange the way griefers think their actions are unique. Like they're the only ones who ever gave the middle finger to authority and said swivel on it.

 

I would never knowingly harass or intimidate another player in a video game, God forbid, or I might not get to heaven .

 

Constant griefing is like playing your joker every hand, it's so obvious... and constant griefers will never understand how generic they are.

[rockstar legend]

 

i would never grief / ruin someones game experience , but only because im not a prick

Or rather, you have convinced yourself that there is some kind of quasi-moral code to play by in this online multiplayer crime game.

 

 

aha , the old " its a game" excuse eh haha , nah to be honest it doesnt matter what im doing , fishing ,playing gta ,swimming ,work, driving , socialising ,playing football , whatever the activity im engaged in im just not a prick , simples.

Edited April 17, 2017 by rockstar legend

[Black-Dragon96]

 

Also you and johndoe still did not answer my question: "Why attack CEOs

 

 

 

When I kill them R says they are my rival, thats reason enough.How can someone who does have no intention in attacking you and does not make you loose anything can be your rival? Well its the old "hurr durr Rockstar told me so" excuse, i was a fool expecting something else.

 

So you are blindly following "instructions"? In that case you would also need to buy a sharkcard everytime the sharkcard ad pops up in the loadingscreen, because Rockstar says so, but i guess this "rule" only counts when someone can use it as excuse to grief defenseless people.