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Domand

Which storyline moment is most unrealistic?

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Son of Zeus
23 hours ago, Algonquin Assassin said:

A wig? lol. I don't think I'd be able to play through the mission without bursting into laughter. Way to kill the tension.

 

Why would you laugh? It would have made way more sense. I didn't feel any tension at all because of how stupid that mission was. Just gotta agree to disagree I guess.

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SonOfLiberty
36 minutes ago, Son of Zeus said:

Why would you laugh? It would have made way more sense. I didn't feel any tension at all because of how stupid that mission was. Just gotta agree to disagree I guess.

Because he never wears a wig in any other mission where his identity is just as compromised that's why, but yeah agree to disagree.

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TheSantader25
4 hours ago, Am Shaegar said:

Why even have such an approach in the first place? Going through an interview process to kill a man!? Like whàaaaaaat???

 

To have a better mission design so at least one of the FEW missions In the game look interesting. Disgraceful. 

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Legomanarthur
9 hours ago, Am Shaegar said:

Why even have such an approach in the first place? Going through an interview process to kill a man!? Like whàaaaaaat???

 

Yeah, Niko should have gone in the shower with him instead.

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TheSantader25

No he could have killed him in the street when he is moving with a car? Shouldn't be hard for someone with RED ARMY SKILLS. 

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Crossbones
23 hours ago, TheSantader25 said:

No he could have killed him in the street when he is moving with a car? Shouldn't be hard for someone with RED ARMY SKILLS. 

Tom Goldberg is a powerful man, founder of a big law firm and the people he was dealing with were powerful too, like Francis McReary, so it's quite obvious that he had arranged security for himself when he is in public and that would have made things difficult. 

Plus, if the mission was straightforward like you say, people would have complained about how all the missions are same; chase, kill, flee. 

 

And going by that logic, Niko was stupid to disguise himself as a doctor to kill Anthony Corrado in the hospital, instead he should have bombed the building, acquiring explosives and using them is not hard for a guy with RED ARMY SKILLS.

 

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TheSantader25
Just now, Crossbones said:

Because Tom Goldberg is a powerful man, founder of a big law firm and the people he was dealing with were powerful too, like Francis McReary, so it's quite obvious that he had arranged security for himself when he is in public and that would have made things difficult. 

Plus, if the mission was straightforward like you say, people would have complained about how all the missions are same; chase, kill, flee. 

We already do complain that most of the missions are chase kill flee. However since nit-picking seems to be an okay thing to do about SA and V logic, it's not bad that you guys deal with it too.

Just now, Crossbones said:

 

 

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SonOfLiberty

So I just got done finishing Tunnel Of Death and something occurred to me. Why didn't they just drive to the Leftwood cliffs in the armoured truck to dispose of it and kill Aiden there and then instead of leaving it where the getaway car was basically saying "Here you go pigs. Here's all the evidence you need".

 

I mean there wasn't much effort to be discrete about it lol. Still love the mission though.

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Hmmm nice bike
1 hour ago, Algonquin Assassin said:

So I just got done finishing Tunnel Of Death and something occurred to me. Why didn't they just drive to the Leftwood cliffs in the armoured truck to dispose of it and kill Aiden there and then instead of leaving it where the getaway car was basically saying "Here you go pigs. Here's all the evidence you need".

 

I mean there wasn't much effort to be discrete about it lol. Still love the mission though.

Maybe they were trying to imply that driving around a populated area in a giant armored police truck would have attracted too much attention, especially (realistically thinking, of course) if any police in the area would have gotten word that one just like it was stolen and it probably would have made the news by this point as well, so cops and civilians would have known about it. I get what you're saying as well though. Seems like there's no easy or realistic way to go about that mission!

 

Also, I feel like Niko's use of the RPG and the subsequent vehicle explosions in the tunnel in that mission could have set things up for making their escape impossible anyway! No doubt that the tunnel would have been pretty messed up and they'd probably end up blocking their own escape routes with all the damage that they could have done to the tunnel. Especially if they ended up setting off a Daylight-style chain reaction tunnel explosion, lol.

 

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TheSantader25

I still don't know why Niko completely forgot bulgarin after that diamond mission. 

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universetwisters

I think it was dumb how Niko used his real name for the final interview mission. Like yeah okay it isn't like the cops aren't gonna be searching for that.

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TheSantader25

Also another one. 

We spent hours in GTA V and GTA SA  and even VC to plan the heists while in IV niko just walks into the McReary house to find himself robbing a bank minutes later. The McRearys were snorting coke before a f*cking big heist like this!How does that make sense? 

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Crossbones
37 minutes ago, TheSantader25 said:

Also another one. 

We spent hours in GTA V and GTA SA  and even VC to plan the heists while in IV niko just walks into the McReary house to find himself robbing a bank minutes later. The McRearys were snorting coke before a f*cking big heist like this!How does that make sense? 

Yeah, I raised the similar question a week ago but as Tycek said and what I find a valid reason is there was some planning at Gerry's end and Niko was just a hired gun similar to the heist crew members in V. 

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TheSantader25
13 minutes ago, Crossbones said:

Yeah, I raised the similar question a week ago but as Tycek said and what I find a valid reason is there was some planning at Gerry's end and Niko was just a hired gun similar to the heist crew members in V. 

The heist crew members were informed by lester before the heist about the plan however niko has no idea wtf is going on before he enters the house. 

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Crossbones
1 minute ago, TheSantader25 said:

The heist crew members were informed by lester before the heist about the plan however niko has no idea wtf is going on before he enters the house. 

Like I said, I do find the heist unrealistic, they didn't even have a proper getaway plan.Their plan was drive to the bank, hold hostages, blow up the vault, rob the bank blind and then shoot everyone and anyone who comes in the way. It would have been great if they had some getaway plan, but it goes awfully wrong sorta like how Hillary King died in the Job, then they are forced into massive shootout. 

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SonOfLiberty
2 hours ago, TheSantader25 said:

I still don't know why Niko completely forgot bulgarin after that diamond mission. 

I think the most obvious reason is R*  were saving Bulgarin to appear in TBOGT, but in hindsight looking back yeah it's strange that Niko forgets about him since he was a main catalyst for Niko's arrival in America.

 

It left me scratching my head that we only saw him a couple of times. I thought for sure we'd see him again given his connections to Dimitri.

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Slonitram

Niko giving his real name during Final Interview. He should've gone with a fake one, maybe the one that Francis came up with in the first part of the mission. Would've been cooler and would've made much more sense.

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Journey_95
On 6/26/2018 at 9:25 AM, Algonquin Assassin said:

I think the most obvious reason is R*  were saving Bulgarin to appear in TBOGT, but in hindsight looking back yeah it's strange that Niko forgets about him since he was a main catalyst for Niko's arrival in America.

 

It left me scratching my head that we only saw him a couple of times. I thought for sure we'd see him again given his connections to Dimitri.

It would have been much better if Bulgarin was a major villian in Niko's story instead. I would dump Jimmy who came too late to matter for me and instead have Bulgarin as the main one, alongside Dimitri.


TBOGT made Bulgarin lame as f*ck anyway and he could be replaced by any generic villian. Its not like he is needed for TBOGT's story, he has no real connection with Luis

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Outlaw Biker Viking

As far as within the game’s events goes, the killing of Dwayne in The Holland Play as well as the Deal ending. Those are both quite sad and thankfully, I think they’re the most unrealistic as to how it really went down. 

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SonOfLiberty
2 hours ago, ThatBenGuy said:

As far as within the game’s events goes, the killing of Dwayne in The Holland Play as well as the Deal ending. Those are both quite sad and thankfully, I think they’re the most unrealistic as to how it really went down. 

As I said in the thread you made I only killed Dwayne to see what the alternative was to The Holland Play, but it's something I could never imagine Niko actually doing. With Deal for me personally it depends how I approach the end game.

 

Sometimes I like to spare Darko and in turn sometimes I like to imagine Niko might find it in himself to work with Dimitri again and that he realises revenge is not the answer as I could imagine him confiding in Roman over Kate and honestly even though it's sad to lose Roman I have to admit killing Dimitri as the final foe is so satisfying.

 

From a logical standpoint though Revenge is probably a no brainer as Niko clearly wants to wipe Dimitri from existence, but Pegorino isn't as satisfying as the final boss. I guess one thing that makes both of the endings so special is they're both a double edged sword in their own way. IMO there's no right or wrong ending. I usually alternate on my playthroughs. For my current save I'm going to kill Darko and choose Revenge this time as my "Niko" has been rather vindictive killing all the scumbags in the choices he's made so far.

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lilchris131
On 11/19/2017 at 4:06 AM, Johnny Spaz said:

TLAD when you kill a bunch of Lost members (Brian's faction) but there's still dozens in and around the clubhouse, you'd think there'd be a small group of TLMC after all that drama

Funny you should mention this mission, it's unrealistic when after you kill most of the bikers Jim casually watches the rest ride off and says "we cant let them get away!"

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Raxai

I wonder how U.L. Paper has learned that Niko has arrived in America and how he knows about his past.

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Tycek

Judging by a fact he knows Serbian we may assume he was there at some point of his life and got some friends.

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Copcaller
On 11/19/2017 at 12:42 AM, Luke Ferris said:

Niko leaping from a trail bike, up a ramp and on to a helicopter (in the finale) was a tad outrageous. Unrealistic, but fun, nevertheless.

This and get lost 

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Marcos18

In the mission "Diamonds are a girl's best friend" why Packie or Niko takes so long to get the diamonds from the ground? They could easily grabbed the diamonds and then kill the hitmans of Ray Bulgarin.

 

 

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Domand

Man I didn't think this topic was gonna still be getting responses after a year! I gotta agree with a lot of these answers. That Final Interview especially is a cool mission but would not of worked that way at all in real life. Niko using his real name is most of all confusing. I guess perhaps since he was an illegal immigrant and wasn't like officially known in the city (Depending on how you take his police database profile because I have heard people think thats not canon but whatever) but then again there would still be many links the police could use to find him either way. 

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SonOfLiberty
1 hour ago, Domand said:

Man I didn't think this topic was gonna still be getting responses after a year! I gotta agree with a lot of these answers. That Final Interview especially is a cool mission but would not of worked that way at all in real life. Niko using his real name is most of all confusing. I guess perhaps since he was an illegal immigrant and wasn't like officially known in the city (Depending on how you take his police database profile because I have heard people think thats not canon but whatever) but then again there would still be many links the police could use to find him either way. 

The thing is though if was a real life situation the authorities would need more than just a name. To get really specific due to Niko's illegal status that means he doesn't also have a valid driver's licence, no permanent address,  no DNA recorded with the LCPD, no social security number, no credit history etc and basically anything else that could be used to track him down. If names only could be used to charge someone with a crime there wouldn't be a need for forensics.

 

Even the security footage argument is kind of flawed because they would still need the proof it was him who killed Goldberg even if they were 100% sure. There's a difference between knowing and being able to prove it.

 

 

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Hmmm nice bike
53 minutes ago, Algonquin Assassin said:

Even the security footage argument is kind of flawed because they would still need the proof it was him who killed Goldberg even if they were 100% sure. There's a difference between knowing and being able to prove it.

Well, the receptionist knew Niko was the last person who went into to Goldberg's office before he was killed, and she walked in after the murder and got a good enough look at Niko for a few seconds. So I think Niko would have to kill her, too, for that argument to work. Otherwise she would easily be able to identify him and confirm that the killer is indeed the guy in the security footage.

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Domand
1 hour ago, Algonquin Assassin said:

The thing is though if was a real life situation the authorities would need more than just a name. To get really specific due to Niko's illegal status that means he doesn't also have a valid driver's licence, no permanent address,  no DNA recorded with the LCPD, no social security number, no credit history etc and basically anything else that could be used to track him down. If names only could be used to charge someone with a crime there wouldn't be a need for forensics.

 

Even the security footage argument is kind of flawed because they would still need the proof it was him who killed Goldberg even if they were 100% sure. There's a difference between knowing and being able to prove it.

 

 

Yeah I gotta agree. I do think though that with the security footage, even if they didn't know that it was him, they would be using that person as a suspect in the investigation because he was known to be coming in that day to meet Goldberg. But like you said Niko being an illegal immigrant robs the LCPD of all those records and data that you talked about. Making him harder to find. Of course Roman was a known Bellic in the city and I don't think alot or anyone else had that surname in the city atleast. So I wonder if while investigating Niko as a suspect would mean they would find Roman and talk with him as well.

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SonOfLiberty
5 minutes ago, Hmmm nice bike said:

Well, the receptionist knew Niko was the last person who went into to Goldberg's office before he was killed, and she walked in after the murder and got a good enough look at Niko for a few seconds. So I think Niko would have to kill her, too, for that argument to work. Otherwise she would easily be able to identify him and confirm that the killer is indeed the guy in the security footage.

Fair point, but since the mission can play out differently she doesn't always walk into the office. I favour the stealth approach which is the most disctrete for this reason. The best thing she'd be able to be in that case is a material witness. She wasn't in Goldberg's office when the murder took place.

 

There are other points to consider too. Did Niko leave any or his DNA behind? footprints? fingerprints? All I see is circumstanial evidence, but very little that can prove beyond doubt with actual, hard wired forensics.

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