v wip [WIP] GTA: Universe

[Wakka387 578]

whose researching San Francisco? I will post some pics I/my family took of SF later on this thread

 

 

San Fierro is based on Driver SF and Watch Dogs 2?

 

TIL San Francisco doesn't exist in real life.

 

lies, UT! Chicago exists only in Driver 2.

SF exists in Space

Edited April 26, 2017 by Wakka387

[Krox 836]

Started to work since yesterday on the first Interior.

 

Namely the Gant Bridge Visitor Center.

 

Here Gant Bridge fans can buy some souvenirs.

 

 

 

 

If someone is interested, where it is, here the Position in San Francisco:

https:8066828,-122.474594,91a,35y,346.2h,52.43t/data=!3m1!1e3!4m13!1m7!3m6!1s0x80859a6d00690021:0x4a501367f076adff!2sSan+Francisco,+Kalifornien,+USA!3b1!8m2!3d37.7749295!4d-122.4194155!3m4!1s0x0:0xfac9601f983db5bd!8m2!3d37.8077489!4d-122.4749521

Edited May 1, 2017 by Krox

[Ausam 57]

wow

great job!

[Krox 836]

One of the heaviest part of this mod, the Gant Bridge is finished.
What i could still do is add some details, and improve the lower deck slightly.

Here is a preview of the whole bridge

 

 

 

 

I also want to mention my Insta Acc., where I will now post pictures of my finished models, and will go more into the details of these models. And if i have enough progress, i will possibly make Cinematics.

 

 

https://www.instagram.com/kalitmwarumistdernamevergeben/

 

 

However, I will not show any progress there, only models that have already been shown.

Anyone who actively supports me, whether in the forum or Insta will be listed later in the credits, since feedback and suggestions for improvement is something important for me, so I can continue motivated to work on the mod ^ ^

[Wakka387 578]

here is an album of 90 photos from my last trip. most are photos of Fishermans Wharf and such

 

https://imgur.com/a/7Tj1V

 

I still got more from prior years scattered around that I will upload down the line

[Krox 836]

here is an album of 90 photos from my last trip. most are photos of Fishermans Wharf and such

 

https://imgur.com/a/7Tj1V

 

I still got more from prior years scattered around that I will upload down the line

Thanks!

 

Especially the Bay Bridge Part.

Its perhaps a bit blurry, but i can see the details well.

 

Maybe you have some Pics from Presidio?

Since im working on that part right now.

 

And what i really need, is a pic from the Interior in the Roundhouse Cafe that is near the Golden Gate Bridge.

bcs i want to make it enterable later, but i cant find good pics, how it looks like irl.

Edited May 4, 2017 by Krox

[Wakka387 578]

 

here is an album of 90 photos from my last trip. most are photos of Fishermans Wharf and such

 

https://imgur.com/a/7Tj1V

 

I still got more from prior years scattered around that I will upload down the line

Thanks!

 

Especially the Bay Bridge Part.

Its perhaps a bit blurry, but i can see the details well.

 

Maybe you have some Pics from Presidio?

Since im working on that part right now.

 

And what i really need, is a pic from the Interior in the Roundhouse Cafe that is near the Golden Gate Bridge.

bcs i want to make it enterable later, but i cant find good pics, how it looks like irl.

 

I gotta look around my pics since ive been to various parts of San Francisco over the years. as for the Roundhouse cafe, I have not actually been there yet sadly.

 

 

Started to work since yesterday on the first Interior.

 

Namely the Gant Bridge Visitor Center.

 

Here Gant Bridge fans can buy some souvenirs.

 

 

 

Actually using this as a place where players could actually buy clothing related to San Fierro/Gant Bridge would be an interesting idea.

 

here are some "Non licensed" San Francisco clothing I bought that would probably fit the San Fierro style with a bit of retexturing.

 

 

I can take some more detailed pictures later on

Edited May 4, 2017 by Wakka387

[Arthur Bell 1,632]

 

 

And what i really need, is a pic from the Interior in the Roundhouse Cafe that is near the Golden Gate Bridge.

bcs i want to make it enterable later, but i cant find good pics, how it looks like irl.

 

Interestingly, someone made a photosphere on Google Maps of the interior, which can be used as a reference. The problem is, it's only a portion of it and there aren't more spheres in it. I wasn't sure if you had seen it yet, but here's a link to it:

https://www.google.com/maps/@37.8078005,-122.4756392,3a,75y,353.39h,89.35t/data=!3m8!1e1!3m6!1s-BPQPuTJ4D0U%2FWM8-5L9fUcI%2FAAAAAAAANLk%2FAqLM-SjEJWgUlKC5bvjqkjNz-EL-r95mwCLIB!2e4!3e11!6s%2F%2Flh5.googleusercontent.com%2F-BPQPuTJ4D0U%2FWM8-5L9fUcI%2FAAAAAAAANLk%2FAqLM-SjEJWgUlKC5bvjqkjNz-EL-r95mwCLIB%2Fw203-h100-k-no-pi2.722755-ya289.4718-ro9.118498-fo100%2F!7i5376!8i2688

[Wakka387 578]

 

 

 

And what i really need, is a pic from the Interior in the Roundhouse Cafe that is near the Golden Gate Bridge.

bcs i want to make it enterable later, but i cant find good pics, how it looks like irl.

 

Interestingly, someone made a photosphere on Google Maps of the interior, which can be used as a reference. The problem is, it's only a portion of it and there aren't more spheres in it. I wasn't sure if you had seen it yet, but here's a link to it:

https://www.google.com/maps/@37.8078005,-122.4756392,3a,75y,353.39h,89.35t/data=!3m8!1e1!3m6!1s-BPQPuTJ4D0U%2FWM8-5L9fUcI%2FAAAAAAAANLk%2FAqLM-SjEJWgUlKC5bvjqkjNz-EL-r95mwCLIB!2e4!3e11!6s%2F%2Flh5.googleusercontent.com%2F-BPQPuTJ4D0U%2FWM8-5L9fUcI%2FAAAAAAAANLk%2FAqLM-SjEJWgUlKC5bvjqkjNz-EL-r95mwCLIB%2Fw203-h100-k-no-pi2.722755-ya289.4718-ro9.118498-fo100%2F!7i5376!8i2688

 

thanks, I will take a look at it in a bit

 

also I went through my late grandmothers pictures and found a few shots of the Presidio and the surrounding bay waters near the Golden Gate Bridge from back in 2004, I think they could possibly be useful

 

https://imgur.com/a/CVmys

Edited May 4, 2017 by Wakka387

[mould122 73]

I would like to see a chinatown in San Fierro, like it was in GTA SA. Obviously, it has to be a bigger than what we have seen it in SA. Btw I would love to see some sort of Mythbusters easter egg, perhaps you could make their workshop near the docks. Then there also should be a message on their door https://www.google.fi/search?q=m5+industries+inc&rlz=1C1AVNE_enFI707FI707&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwic5OWgmtjTAhXJCSwKHcvNCFkQ_AUICigB&biw=1920&bih=974#tbm=isch&q=m5+industries+inc+door&imgrc=g2zkyEiOPSkTAM:

 

Great job you guys have done so far

[Krox 836]

Imported some of my Models to GTA V.

 

Now you can see a bit more how it looks like outside.

 

Textures, and Material Shaders are unfinished of course, and not all of my finished Models were imported

 

[b0ssVenom 154]

Just a little sneak peak to show what kind of texture quality level I'm aiming for:

 

[Male01 504]

Add a hidden sign in Gant Bridge just like in San Andreas. Also, making some San Fierro 69ers souvenirs would be a great idea.

Edited May 6, 2017 by Male01

[Krox 836]

Due some private problems the development from my site is firstly on ice.

 

Since I am not at home for a few days, I cant make any progress.

 

Venom is still working on the landscape.

[b0ssVenom 154]

I'm actually pretty busy with studying for final exams so there's not been much progress since the beginning of this month.

[DamnedDev 113]

Geez fanastic mod been away from this site and good to see actual mod that is being made by hand for V.

[SodaDog 473]

In years time, THIS will be the Single Player DLC we have all been waiting for.

[MrGTAmodsgerman 231]

Due some private problems the development from my site is firstly on ice.

 

Since I am not at home for a few days, I cant make any progress.

 

Venom is still working on the landscape.

Hey, fürs Mapping solltest du mal den GTA 5 richtigen Map Edior benutzen.

https://www.gta5-mods.com/tools/codewalker-gtav-interactive-3d-map

Damit kannst du richtig nice die Map editieren so wie in MED. Nur ist halt noch etwas in Entwicklungsphase.

 

@Krox

Edited May 26, 2017 by MrGTAmodsgerman

[Krox 836]

 

Due some private problems the development from my site is firstly on ice.

 

Since I am not at home for a few days, I cant make any progress.

 

Venom is still working on the landscape.

Hey, fürs Mapping solltest du mal den GTA 5 richtigen Map Edior benutzen.

https://www.gta5-mods.com/tools/codewalker-gtav-interactive-3d-map

Damit kannst du richtig nice die Map editieren so wie in MED. Nur ist halt noch etwas in Entwicklungsphase.

 

@Krox

 

Benutzte es schon ^^

 

Nur komme ich leider bis jetzt damit nicht ganz zurecht.

 

Ich habe es bis jetzt nur 1 mal versucht, und direkt aufgegeben

Liegt auch daran, da ich erstmals ein großen Teil von Paradisio fertigstellen möchte, bevor ich das ganze nach GTA V importiere werde.

 

Zumal ich mir auch vieles angucken muss, wie die collision aufgebaut ist, wie man die LOD Models importiert, wie man eine Statische Reflektion den Objekten zuweist, wie man light bulbs erstellt etc..

 

Und ich glaube es lohnt sich erst dann das alles anzugucken, wenn ich auch wirklich später etwas großes zeigen kann.

 

Gerade bin ich viel am planen, da es wirklich schwer ist, San Fierro kleiner als Los Santos nach zu konstruieren, da ich nicht die bekanntesten Sehenswürdigkeiten auslassen möchte, und Los Santos nicht gerade groß ist.

[MrGTAmodsgerman 231]

 

 

Due some private problems the development from my site is firstly on ice.

 

Since I am not at home for a few days, I cant make any progress.

 

Venom is still working on the landscape.

Hey, fürs Mapping solltest du mal den GTA 5 richtigen Map Edior benutzen.

https://www.gta5-mods.com/tools/codewalker-gtav-interactive-3d-map

Damit kannst du richtig nice die Map editieren so wie in MED. Nur ist halt noch etwas in Entwicklungsphase.

 

@Krox

 

Benutzte es schon ^^

 

Nur komme ich leider bis jetzt damit nicht ganz zurecht.

 

Ich habe es bis jetzt nur 1 mal versucht, und direkt aufgegeben

Liegt auch daran, da ich erstmals ein großen Teil von Paradisio fertigstellen möchte, bevor ich das ganze nach GTA V importiere werde.

 

Zumal ich mir auch vieles angucken muss, wie die collision aufgebaut ist, wie man die LOD Models importiert, wie man eine Statische Reflektion den Objekten zuweist, wie man light bulbs erstellt etc..

 

Und ich glaube es lohnt sich erst dann das alles anzugucken, wenn ich auch wirklich später etwas großes zeigen kann.

 

Gerade bin ich viel am planen, da es wirklich schwer ist, San Fierro kleiner als Los Santos nach zu konstruieren, da ich nicht die bekanntesten Sehenswürdigkeiten auslassen möchte, und Los Santos nicht gerade groß ist.

 

Gut, nun, das Tool wird öfters geupdatet. Schau mal vorbei wie es jetzt ist. Es gibt schöne Erneuerungen. Ich helfe codewalker dabei die ganzen Fehler auszumärzen.

 

Aber warum willst du die San Frierro Map kleiner als Los Santos? Wäre es nicht total geil, wenn es genau so groß wie in Watch Dogs 2 wäre? Ist doch dann schön abwechlungsreich.

Schau auch öfters mal hier im GIMS EVO Thema vorbei! Da erfährt man ziemlch viel darüber. Am sonsten, frag mal GTARandom

 

English:

 

Good, now, that tool get more often some updates. Just come around and look how its now. There are nice new stuff. I helped codewalker to kill all those problems.

 

But why do you want to make the San Fierro map smaller than Los Santos? Woun't it be todally amazing to make it exactly big like the map of Watch Dogs 2? Its diversified then.

Just look some time into the GIMS EVO thread! There you can learn much about that. Otherwise ask GTARandom.

Edited May 27, 2017 by MrGTAmodsgerman

[universetwisters 32,184]

 

 

obligatory "this is an English forum" post

[Krox 836]

 

 

 

Due some private problems the development from my site is firstly on ice.

 

Since I am not at home for a few days, I cant make any progress.

 

Venom is still working on the landscape.

Hey, fürs Mapping solltest du mal den GTA 5 richtigen Map Edior benutzen.

https://www.gta5-mods.com/tools/codewalker-gtav-interactive-3d-map

Damit kannst du richtig nice die Map editieren so wie in MED. Nur ist halt noch etwas in Entwicklungsphase.

 

@Krox

 

Benutzte es schon ^^

 

Nur komme ich leider bis jetzt damit nicht ganz zurecht.

 

Ich habe es bis jetzt nur 1 mal versucht, und direkt aufgegeben

Liegt auch daran, da ich erstmals ein großen Teil von Paradisio fertigstellen möchte, bevor ich das ganze nach GTA V importiere werde.

 

Zumal ich mir auch vieles angucken muss, wie die collision aufgebaut ist, wie man die LOD Models importiert, wie man eine Statische Reflektion den Objekten zuweist, wie man light bulbs erstellt etc..

 

Und ich glaube es lohnt sich erst dann das alles anzugucken, wenn ich auch wirklich später etwas großes zeigen kann.

 

Gerade bin ich viel am planen, da es wirklich schwer ist, San Fierro kleiner als Los Santos nach zu konstruieren, da ich nicht die bekanntesten Sehenswürdigkeiten auslassen möchte, und Los Santos nicht gerade groß ist.

 

Gut, nun, das Tool wird öfters geupdatet. Schau mal vorbei wie es jetzt ist. Es gibt schöne Erneuerungen. Ich helfe codewalker dabei die ganzen Fehler auszumärzen.

 

Aber warum willst du die San Frierro Map kleiner als Los Santos? Wäre es nicht total geil, wenn es genau so groß wie in Watch Dogs 2 wäre? Ist doch dann schön abwechlungsreich.

Schau auch öfters mal hier im GIMS EVO Thema vorbei! Da erfährt man ziemlch viel darüber. Am sonsten, frag mal GTARandom

 

Unser Ziel ist es halt, die Bay Area an die HD Universe anzupassen.

Und Los Angeles ist nun mal um einiges größer als San Francisco ^^

 

Und bzgl. der Watch Dogs 2 map, sie scheint zwar groß und abwechslungsreich zu sein, aber ich will mich überhaupt nicht an Watch Dogs orientieren, da Ubisoft sehr kleine Fehler bzgl. der Map gemacht hat.

Ist zwar nichts großes, aber ich will später nicht die selben Fehler wie Ubisoft machen

 

Lustigerweise hat z.B Ubisoft schon das Transbay Gebäude in San Francisco umgesetzt, und das Gebäude ist irl derzeitig noch im Aufbau.

Ist zwar was tolles, aber lustigerweise wurde das Gebäude Design Konzept etwas umgeändert, das heißt dass das Transbay Gebäude in Watch Dogs 2 nicht mehr ganz der Realität entspricht, wenn es fertiggestellt wird.

Zudem hat Watch Dogs 2 meiner Meinung nach einfach die coolsten Dinge ignoriert, wie das Bart Bahn System und der große Caltrain Zugdepot.

 

San Francisco arbeitet auch noch an anderen Projekten wie an einem Hochgeschwindigkeits Zug, was ich auch umsetzten möchte.

 

Gut, liegt vllt daran das ich Züge immer was tolles in einem Spiel finde

 

 

Aber ich konstruiere SF lieber so wie ich es kenne nach ^^

 

In English translated with Google Translater:

 

Our goal is to adapt the Bay Area to the HD Universe.

And Los Angeles is now a lot bigger than San Francisco ^^

And with regard to the Watchdogs 2 map, it seems to be big and varied, but I do not want to orient myself at all at Watchdogs, since Ubisoft made very small mistakes with respect to the map.

Is not something big, but I will later not make the same errors as Ubisoft: D

Ubisoft, for example, has already implemented Transbay in San Francisco, and the building is currently under construction.

Although it was great, but funnily, the building design concept has changed somewhat, which means that the Transbay building in Watchdogs 2 is no longer quite true when it is finished.

In addition, Watch Dogs 2 simply ignored the coolest things, like the Bartbahn system and the large Caltrain train depot.

Well, is vllt the fact that I always find something great in a game: D

But I prefer SF rather than I know it ^ ^

Edited May 26, 2017 by Krox

[rollschuh2282 5,272]

das ist ein unglaublich großartiges Projekt, und ich glaube das ihr das schafft.

kleine Frage: achtet ihr auch so auf Details wie R* , wenn ja: denkt ihr dran die Textur bei der Gant Bridge unter dem Wasserspiegel dunkler zu machen?

[Krox 836]

das ist ein unglaublich großartiges Projekt, und ich glaube das ihr das schafft.

kleine Frage: achtet ihr auch so auf Details wie R* , wenn ja: denkt ihr dran die Textur bei der Gant Bridge unter dem Wasserspiegel dunkler zu machen?

Ok, before later the users in the forum will have no idea what is going on here, I will write in english

 

How do you mean it should be darker under the Waterlevel?

 

The bridge is above the Waterlevel ^^

[rollschuh2282 5,272]

 

das ist ein unglaublich großartiges Projekt, und ich glaube das ihr das schafft.

kleine Frage: achtet ihr auch so auf Details wie R* , wenn ja: denkt ihr dran die Textur bei der Gant Bridge unter dem Wasserspiegel dunkler zu machen?

Ok, before later the users in the forum will have no idea what is going on here, I will write in english

 

How do you mean it should be darker under the Waterlevel?

 

The bridge is above the Waterlevel ^^

ich schreib auch in Englisch:

when you put something in the water, then it get's darker.

and because the bridge is standing since so many years in the water.

it should get dark under the water surface.

and the bridge should reach the ground because you can dive in the game, and a seeing a massive Bridge just "floating" in the water, would be a bit unrealistic.

Edited May 26, 2017 by rollschuh2282

[Krox 836]

 

 

das ist ein unglaublich großartiges Projekt, und ich glaube das ihr das schafft.

kleine Frage: achtet ihr auch so auf Details wie R* , wenn ja: denkt ihr dran die Textur bei der Gant Bridge unter dem Wasserspiegel dunkler zu machen?

Ok, before later the users in the forum will have no idea what is going on here, I will write in english

 

How do you mean it should be darker under the Waterlevel?

 

The bridge is above the Waterlevel ^^

ich schreib auch in Englisch:

when you put something in the water, then it get's darker.

and because the bridge is standing since so many years in the water.

it should get dark under the water surface.

and the bridge should reach the ground because you can dive in the game, and a seeing a massive Bridge just "floating" in the water, would be a bit unrealistic.

 

So you mean this Concrete?

 

 

 

If yes, of course.

We will also put some moos on it and Scratches.

 

We want to make it underwater as well as the quality of R* made in Los Santos.

With Eastereggs, sunken planes, cars, boats etc..

Edited May 26, 2017 by Krox

[rollschuh2282 5,272]

 

 

 

das ist ein unglaublich großartiges Projekt, und ich glaube das ihr das schafft.

kleine Frage: achtet ihr auch so auf Details wie R* , wenn ja: denkt ihr dran die Textur bei der Gant Bridge unter dem Wasserspiegel dunkler zu machen?

Ok, before later the users in the forum will have no idea what is going on here, I will write in english

 

How do you mean it should be darker under the Waterlevel?

 

The bridge is above the Waterlevel ^^

ich schreib auch in Englisch:

when you put something in the water, then it get's darker.

and because the bridge is standing since so many years in the water.

it should get dark under the water surface.

and the bridge should reach the ground because you can dive in the game, and a seeing a massive Bridge just "floating" in the water, would be a bit unrealistic.

 

So you mean this Concrete?

 

 

 

If yes, of course.

We will also put some moos on it and Scratches.

 

We want to make it underwater as well as the quality of R* made in Los Santos.

With Eastereggs, sunken planes, cars, boats etc..

yeah that was, make the concrete a little darker because of the water, because it's a bit bright.

and don't forget about the "hole" that was even in gta sa as a sign of the heavy earthbreak in the 90s.

[Krox 836]

 

 

 

 

das ist ein unglaublich großartiges Projekt, und ich glaube das ihr das schafft.

kleine Frage: achtet ihr auch so auf Details wie R* , wenn ja: denkt ihr dran die Textur bei der Gant Bridge unter dem Wasserspiegel dunkler zu machen?

Ok, before later the users in the forum will have no idea what is going on here, I will write in english

 

How do you mean it should be darker under the Waterlevel?

 

The bridge is above the Waterlevel ^^

ich schreib auch in Englisch:

when you put something in the water, then it get's darker.

and because the bridge is standing since so many years in the water.

it should get dark under the water surface.

and the bridge should reach the ground because you can dive in the game, and a seeing a massive Bridge just "floating" in the water, would be a bit unrealistic.

 

So you mean this Concrete?

 

 

 

If yes, of course.

We will also put some moos on it and Scratches.

 

We want to make it underwater as well as the quality of R* made in Los Santos.

With Eastereggs, sunken planes, cars, boats etc..

yeah that was, make the concrete a little darker because of the water, because it's a bit bright.

and don't forget about the "hole" that was even in gta sa as a sign of the heavy earthbreak in the 90s.

 

The underwater part i will make in the future.

 

The Textures are not finished, this is only a prototype, i dont started really to work on the textures yet

[MrGTAmodsgerman 231]

 

 

 

 

Due some private problems the development from my site is firstly on ice.

 

Since I am not at home for a few days, I cant make any progress.

 

Venom is still working on the landscape.

Hey, fürs Mapping solltest du mal den GTA 5 richtigen Map Edior benutzen.

https://www.gta5-mods.com/tools/codewalker-gtav-interactive-3d-map

Damit kannst du richtig nice die Map editieren so wie in MED. Nur ist halt noch etwas in Entwicklungsphase.

 

@Krox

 

Benutzte es schon ^^

 

Nur komme ich leider bis jetzt damit nicht ganz zurecht.

 

Ich habe es bis jetzt nur 1 mal versucht, und direkt aufgegeben

Liegt auch daran, da ich erstmals ein großen Teil von Paradisio fertigstellen möchte, bevor ich das ganze nach GTA V importiere werde.

 

Zumal ich mir auch vieles angucken muss, wie die collision aufgebaut ist, wie man die LOD Models importiert, wie man eine Statische Reflektion den Objekten zuweist, wie man light bulbs erstellt etc..

 

Und ich glaube es lohnt sich erst dann das alles anzugucken, wenn ich auch wirklich später etwas großes zeigen kann.

 

Gerade bin ich viel am planen, da es wirklich schwer ist, San Fierro kleiner als Los Santos nach zu konstruieren, da ich nicht die bekanntesten Sehenswürdigkeiten auslassen möchte, und Los Santos nicht gerade groß ist.

 

Gut, nun, das Tool wird öfters geupdatet. Schau mal vorbei wie es jetzt ist. Es gibt schöne Erneuerungen. Ich helfe codewalker dabei die ganzen Fehler auszumärzen.

 

Aber warum willst du die San Frierro Map kleiner als Los Santos? Wäre es nicht total geil, wenn es genau so groß wie in Watch Dogs 2 wäre? Ist doch dann schön abwechlungsreich.

Schau auch öfters mal hier im GIMS EVO Thema vorbei! Da erfährt man ziemlch viel darüber. Am sonsten, frag mal GTARandom

 

 

Our goal is to adapt the Bay Area to the HD Universe.

And Los Angeles is now a lot bigger than San Francisco ^^

And with regard to the Watchdogs 2 map, it seems to be big and varied, but I do not want to orient myself at all at Watchdogs, since Ubisoft made very small mistakes with respect to the map.

Is not something big, but I will later not make the same errors as Ubisoft: D

Ubisoft, for example, has already implemented Transbay in San Francisco, and the building is currently under construction.

Although it was great, but funnily, the building design concept has changed somewhat, which means that the Transbay building in Watchdogs 2 is no longer quite true when it is finished.

In addition, Watch Dogs 2 simply ignored the coolest things, like the Bartbahn system and the large Caltrain train depot.

Well, is vllt the fact that I always find something great in a game: D

But I prefer SF rather than I know it ^ ^

 

Very interesting, i will stay to this topic to and see whats going on. But sadly, i really would appericate a big San Francisco map like WD2.

Edited May 27, 2017 by MrGTAmodsgerman

[Biggdogg01 5]

This is Awesome, would be nice if you can add some real neighborhoods, like(Fillmoe)Fillmore, or The Mission 16th-24th street, Hunters Point Projects, Potrero Hill Projects, Sunnydale Projects,or The Tenderloin so people can see real SF not just tourist attractions, I live here in San Francisco don't be fooled it's not all nice

Edited May 27, 2017 by Biggdogg01