Misa.And.Her.Hubby Posted March 15, 2017 Share Posted March 15, 2017 (edited) After the release of GP1 on March 14th I did some research on super cars in GTA Online. I did not test cars. My analysis is based on test results made by Broughy1322 and Digital Car Addict. Broughy1322 made two videos, one of which is for the top speed and another one is for lap time. Please notice that, his test for top speed is only about the final top speed regardless how much time it takes to get it. Besides his track for lap time test has a lot of sharp corners. Thus acceleration / traction counts much more than top speed. Considering most stunt race tracks does not have many sharp corners, it may consider both top speed and acceleration / traction. That's why I watched a lot of videos made by Digital Car Addict to observe their acceleration. Here is the result: I put these cars in four catagories: 1) RED: fast, poor traction and (or) acceleration Their rank by top speed is superb while lap time they are so poor. They may not win a race unless you are very pro at them. These cars are not reasonable choices in my opinion, unless you just love some of them. 2) BLUE: fast, acceptable traction and acceleration No doubt they are fast, and the traction and acceleration is enough to win something. However their traction and acceleration is not that good, otherwise they should get the top rank in lap time (because they are already fast). Combining with high top speed and acceptable traction / acceleration, these cars are the first choices for most stunt races. 3) GREEN: Relatively fast, awesome traction and acceleration They are far from the fastest cars, but they are top ten in lap time. More sharp corners, they get more chances to win. I believe they are still nice choices for some races, especially those with a low price tag. 4) ORANGE: Slow, regardless of decent traction and acceleration Their traction and acceleration is good, but not good enough to let them win due to their slow top speed. ETR1 ranks 9th by lap time for it's epic handling. But in most stunt races without many sharp corners, it won't be this good. In my opinion they might be good for free roaming, but not that good for most races. 5) EXCEPTION: fast, awesome traction but very poor acceleration It's FMJ, the only car in this catagory. It may win some races, but I don't think it's a reasonable choice in general. My choices: My choices are not very reasonable. It's influenced by my personal taste. I bought 811 and Itali GTB simply because they look lovely. I didnt win any race with them. X80 Proto, RE-7B and Zentorno are perfect for racing, but I will never buy them since they are kinda ugly in my mind. Edited March 15, 2017 by Misa.And.Her.Hubby Chimpokomon, DeucesR, CrysisAverted and 2 others 5 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/883546-super-cars-analysis-after-the-release-of-gp1-on-march-14th-2017/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gridl0k Posted March 15, 2017 Share Posted March 15, 2017 I thought the custom Nero and Itali GTB were slower than their originals? Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/883546-super-cars-analysis-after-the-release-of-gp1-on-march-14th-2017/#findComment-1069459306 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkSavageDeathlyCloud Posted March 15, 2017 Share Posted March 15, 2017 Seriously OP, what is even the purpose of this thing ? Heck, most concerning question, how did you come to this kind of results ? Halal Cyborg 1 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/883546-super-cars-analysis-after-the-release-of-gp1-on-march-14th-2017/#findComment-1069459324 Share on other sites More sharing options...
T3rmina1Nerd_ Posted March 15, 2017 Share Posted March 15, 2017 (edited) I thought the custom Nero and Itali GTB were slower than their originals?ItaliGTB Custom is slower than ItaliGTB around a track because of down force (Broughty explained it in his video), but faster in top speed. Nero Custom is faster than Nero around a track and top speed because of a slight boost in engine power. Edited March 15, 2017 by Carter4point8 Misa.And.Her.Hubby and Gridl0k 2 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/883546-super-cars-analysis-after-the-release-of-gp1-on-march-14th-2017/#findComment-1069459329 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ikelofe Posted March 15, 2017 Share Posted March 15, 2017 I found that Digital Car Addict yesterday and really loved his channel. If you guys want to take a look, here is the link: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCD9qy7cc3bb5rrMjJ9tRTTA Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/883546-super-cars-analysis-after-the-release-of-gp1-on-march-14th-2017/#findComment-1069459367 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Misa.And.Her.Hubby Posted March 15, 2017 Author Share Posted March 15, 2017 Seriously OP, what is even the purpose of this thing ? Heck, most concerning question, how did you come to this kind of results ? Purpose? For doing the research: giving myself a clear instruction to buy my next car in game. For posting it: sharing my work and wish I can help someone else. How did I come to this kind of results? Please read additional information after the table. I've just updated it. AWACS-SkyEye and CrysisAverted 2 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/883546-super-cars-analysis-after-the-release-of-gp1-on-march-14th-2017/#findComment-1069459478 Share on other sites More sharing options...
elfoam Posted March 15, 2017 Share Posted March 15, 2017 The GP1 isn't quite as slow as it appears on Broughys track. It's only slightly slower than a Turismo on most (less technical) tracks. It's not great but it is average. Misa.And.Her.Hubby 1 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/883546-super-cars-analysis-after-the-release-of-gp1-on-march-14th-2017/#findComment-1069459509 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AWACS-SkyEye Posted March 15, 2017 Share Posted March 15, 2017 (edited) No offense, but to everyone criticizing this chart... ya'll are kinda dumb. These top speed and lap rankings are well established and have been verified by broughy and and many other reputable racers. It looks like the OP basically just took Broughy's testing, moved it into an easy to read chart, then added colors to move the cars into categories. There's nothing absurd or odd about these rankings in the least- if ya'll don't see that, you probably just don't know anything about racing. OP- The one thing I would change is a re-classification of the GTB Custom- it is vastly under-rated when it comes to stunt track performance, specifically jump-heavy stunt tracks. The game files show it has the highest acceleration of any car in the game- a fact that makes it wildly OP on tracks like Double-Loop, where the constant jumps are resetting your speed to zero. Edited March 15, 2017 by AWACS-SkyEye Misa.And.Her.Hubby 1 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/883546-super-cars-analysis-after-the-release-of-gp1-on-march-14th-2017/#findComment-1069459522 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pedinhuh Posted March 15, 2017 Share Posted March 15, 2017 Would be far easier if you had made this chart displaying the lap times on a tight track with sharp corners, longer track with high speed corners, drag race and for the last, top speed. Then, at the end you could have given your review on each car. Misa.And.Her.Hubby and JesusFR33K 2 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/883546-super-cars-analysis-after-the-release-of-gp1-on-march-14th-2017/#findComment-1069459535 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gridl0k Posted March 15, 2017 Share Posted March 15, 2017 No good deed goes unpunished OP chef_archie, AWACS-SkyEye, Geisterfaust and 1 other 4 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/883546-super-cars-analysis-after-the-release-of-gp1-on-march-14th-2017/#findComment-1069459542 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JesusFR33K Posted March 15, 2017 Share Posted March 15, 2017 Would be far easier if you had made this chart displaying the lap times on a tight track with sharp corners, longer track with high speed corners, drag race and for the last, top speed. Then, at the end you could have given your review on each car. I agree, but the drag race is the only unbiased test. Lap times rely too heavily on the type of track, and the skill/driving style of the tester. That's why i dont bother with broughy. Maybe dig up the handling files and display the important stuff, and throw the price in there. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/883546-super-cars-analysis-after-the-release-of-gp1-on-march-14th-2017/#findComment-1069459556 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AWACS-SkyEye Posted March 15, 2017 Share Posted March 15, 2017 Would be far easier if you had made this chart displaying the lap times on a tight track with sharp corners, longer track with high speed corners, drag race and for the last, top speed. Then, at the end you could have given your review on each car. I agree, but the drag race is the only unbiased test. Lap times rely too heavily on the type of track, and the skill/driving style of the tester. That's why i dont bother with broughy. Maybe dig up the handling files and display the important stuff, and throw the price in there.Broughy's testing is far from irrelevant. His lap times are not the answer to what car is best on every track every time, but they give you a good idea of what to expect out of a car on a technical racing track. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/883546-super-cars-analysis-after-the-release-of-gp1-on-march-14th-2017/#findComment-1069459571 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AUScowboy Posted March 15, 2017 Share Posted March 15, 2017 I don't trust Broughy's results either. He puts non conventional tires on all his cars, and really sucks at racing if you've ever watched his streams, which i have seen many of. Don't think I've ever seen the guy win a races, so why should i count on his track tests? chef_archie and Cant-B-Faded 2 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/883546-super-cars-analysis-after-the-release-of-gp1-on-march-14th-2017/#findComment-1069459585 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Action_Andy Posted March 15, 2017 Share Posted March 15, 2017 Considering most stunt race tracks does not have many sharp corners, it may consider both top speed and acceleration / traction. If you really want to "analyse" the cars than you have to look at more stats than just top speed, acceleration and traction. E.g. The Banshee has the highest top speed. So it should be a good choice for Plummet II, right? Unfortunately it is not. The reason for this is a stat called "drag". You can find it on Broughys vehicle stats spreadsheet. The drag determines how quick a car can go uphill and downhill. The Banshee has a horrible drag, so it is very slow on the downhill/uphill parts. The Penetrator on the other hand has a very good drag value. And indeed the Penetrator gives the finger even to the 15 Neros in your lobby on that downhill part at the beginning (the Neros will catchup later on flat parts of the track due to higher top speed and engine power). That makes the Penetrator a very good choice for Plummet II, unlike the Banshee. The Penetrator is also a beast in the tubes but you will lose time in corners. Misa.And.Her.Hubby 1 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/883546-super-cars-analysis-after-the-release-of-gp1-on-march-14th-2017/#findComment-1069459627 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AWACS-SkyEye Posted March 15, 2017 Share Posted March 15, 2017 (edited) Considering most stunt race tracks does not have many sharp corners, it may consider both top speed and acceleration / traction. If you really want to "analyse" the cars than you have to look at more stats than just top speed, acceleration and traction.E.g. The Banshee has the highest top speed. So it should be a good choice for Plummet II, right? Unfortunately it is not. The reason for this is a stat called "drag". You can find it on Broughys vehicle stats spreadsheet. The drag determines how quick a car can go uphill and downhill. The Banshee has a horrible drag, so it is very slow on the downhill/uphill parts. The Penetrator on the other hand has a very good drag value. And indeed the Penetrator gives the finger even to the 15 Neros in your lobby on that downhill part at the beginning (the Neros will catchup later on flat parts of the track due to higher top speed and engine power). That makes the Penetrator a very good choice for Plummet II, unlike the Banshee. The Penetrator is also a beast in the tubes but you will lose time in corners. Your lap time on plummet II is 257.9 in the penetrator. I have better times in both the Nero and the 811. The Penetrator is just trash no matter how you slice it. Edited March 15, 2017 by AWACS-SkyEye Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/883546-super-cars-analysis-after-the-release-of-gp1-on-march-14th-2017/#findComment-1069459698 Share on other sites More sharing options...
el carlitos Posted March 15, 2017 Share Posted March 15, 2017 Hey Misa.And.Her.Hubby. I appreciate what you did here. It´s a nice overview and the rating you gave is quite reasonable. Of course you always can go more into detail but it´s quit nice preformance overview of all supercars. Well done. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/883546-super-cars-analysis-after-the-release-of-gp1-on-march-14th-2017/#findComment-1069459727 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Action_Andy Posted March 15, 2017 Share Posted March 15, 2017 Your lap time on plummet II is 257.9 in the penetrator. I have better times in both the Nero and the 811. The Penetrator is just trash no matter how you slice it. Well congrats to you then. But I didn't say the Penetrator would be the best choice for Plummet II (that probably is the Nero), I only wanted to give an example that one have to consider more stats than just top speed, traction and acceleration. Plus comparing leaderboard times on pc is problematic due to the framerates-problem. I and my old laptop will never come close to some times that can be done with higher framerates. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/883546-super-cars-analysis-after-the-release-of-gp1-on-march-14th-2017/#findComment-1069459768 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AWACS-SkyEye Posted March 15, 2017 Share Posted March 15, 2017 Your lap time on plummet II is 257.9 in the penetrator. I have better times in both the Nero and the 811. The Penetrator is just trash no matter how you slice it. Well congrats to you then. But I didn't say the Penetrator would be the best choice for Plummet II (that probably is the Nero), I only wanted to give an example that one have to consider more stats than just top speed, traction and acceleration. Plus comparing leaderboard times on pc is problematic due to the framerates-problem. I and my old laptop will never come close to some times that can be done with higher framerates.Ya the framerate issue annoys the hell out of me. I lock my frames to 60 as a point of honor, but its annoying knowing those with better lap times are probably just playing with 144 frames. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/883546-super-cars-analysis-after-the-release-of-gp1-on-march-14th-2017/#findComment-1069459824 Share on other sites More sharing options...
coelacanth72 Posted March 15, 2017 Share Posted March 15, 2017 You should expand your analysis to include which cars are setting the top 10 legit lap times on each track. This is the best data you can possibly have: end of the day real world results. Unlike broughys testing, you won't have to extrapolate from it which car will be best for you on this or that track. Don't get me wrong, I follow broughy and watch his tests religiously, he's a great resource, but as the emphasis has switched to stunt racing his times around cutting corners need some real interpretation before they're relevant to stunt races. By all means watch them, but deffinitely look at actual lap times set on the races u intend to run. chef_archie and Misa.And.Her.Hubby 2 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/883546-super-cars-analysis-after-the-release-of-gp1-on-march-14th-2017/#findComment-1069460001 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hong Meiling Posted March 16, 2017 Share Posted March 16, 2017 I don't trust Broughy's results either. He puts non conventional tires on all his cars, and really sucks at racing if you've ever watched his streams, which i have seen many of. Don't think I've ever seen the guy win a races, so why should i count on his track tests? 1000+ wins and 1000+ loses, a rather balanced win loss ratio. Shut the f*ck up. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/883546-super-cars-analysis-after-the-release-of-gp1-on-march-14th-2017/#findComment-1069461209 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeammateHelper Posted March 16, 2017 Share Posted March 16, 2017 My current preference is the Nero. Tempesta I really want to like, but the way it turns doesn't coincide well with how I do turns. Basically, in the Nero I don't spin out. Nero Custom though. Nero normal is cool, but I like no-chrome more than retractable spoilers. Besides, speed difference is minimal. Misa.And.Her.Hubby 1 Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/883546-super-cars-analysis-after-the-release-of-gp1-on-march-14th-2017/#findComment-1069461257 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeatsDown Posted March 21, 2017 Share Posted March 21, 2017 I've retested all the Super cars recently and these are my results for acceleration over 0.62 miles (the shortest possible race length). Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/883546-super-cars-analysis-after-the-release-of-gp1-on-march-14th-2017/#findComment-1069470782 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeavyDuke Posted March 21, 2017 Share Posted March 21, 2017 Heck, most concerning question, how did you come to this kind of results ? Ever heard of an ass pull? Well thats where the results came from. Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/883546-super-cars-analysis-after-the-release-of-gp1-on-march-14th-2017/#findComment-1069470802 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HailHydra Posted March 23, 2017 Share Posted March 23, 2017 Nice information you got there op. I never know that fmj has a poor acceleration lol. I always wondering why it's slower than newer car despite its praised traction. Now I know lol Link to comment https://gtaforums.com/topic/883546-super-cars-analysis-after-the-release-of-gp1-on-march-14th-2017/#findComment-1069473600 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Create an account or sign in to comment
You need to be a member in order to leave a comment
Create an account
Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!
Register a new accountSign in
Already have an account? Sign in here.
Sign In Now