GTA 5 Ships 75 Million Copies

[SHADOW OPS]

 

 

 

This is where the thread goes sideways. It is extremely off topic and b & m. The problem is the " entitled " think their voices are the most important and the rules don't apply to them. FYI...when they stop calling fanboy we will stop calling entitled.

You could always ignore posts that don't agree with your view that every corner of this forum must be a 24/7 circlejerk about how perfect GTAO is.

And it's not entitled to expect the game that I paid $70 for to work online more than half the time.

Mine works 95% of the time. Nothing is perfect. Every corner shouldn't be a circlejerk and every corner shouldn't be a whiny bitch fest.

[.Vooodu.]

 

This is where the thread goes sideways. It is extremely off topic and b & m. The problem is the " entitled " think their voices are the most important and the rules don't apply to them. FYI...when they stop calling fanboy we will stop calling entitled.

You could always ignore posts that don't agree with your view that every corner of this forum must be a 24/7 circlejerk about how perfect GTAO is.

And it's not entitled to expect the game that I paid $70 for to work online more than half the time.

 

 

 

Some people see any sort of negative comment against the game they love as a personal insult. He's always been bad for that.. to the point of insanity.

 

I remember a bit ago.. When he was claiming the problems don't exist. Right as i was watching R* live steam on twitch where people on the stream where all flustered and annoyed with trying to connect to a game..lol

 

Theres a big difference between BITCHING about something just because you hate it.. And bitching about something because you like it, and wish is was better.

 

 

If someones getting annoyed because people wish something was better.. or at least fixed. Well, that person is gonna have a long.. ruff time. Since most people don't like to settle for half assed sh*t.

[Rockstar_Fanboy]

For a game that makes a sh*t ton of cash, R* still loves f*cking people so that they can buy Sharkcards. The future of R* games is grim

 

Also, no SP support AT ALL. Just 69 meh missions and and a big f*ck you

 

People like this crack me up with fake Shark Card conspiracy bullsh*t. You can have everything in this game without ever buying a shark card if you enjoy playing the game and don't get in a damn hurry.

 

The year is 2017 and the direction of gaming now is MP. But I hear ya, plugged in my old Atari 2600 last week and was pissed to find out they aren't releasing any new titles for it. SOB's!!

[Rockstar_Fanboy]

Hopefully some of the money they made sinks back into the game anyway, preferably in the way of better stability, balance changes, bug fixes, etc.

 

#dedicatedserversforgtav

 

Have you seen the list of all bug fixes? Seriously, it would take you hours to read through all of them. Hours.

[.Vooodu.]

 

People like this crack me up with fake Shark Card conspiracy bullsh*t. You can have everything in this game without ever buying a shark card

 

 

 

Wow... someone with a "Rockstar Fanboy" name tag defending shark cards.. Hahaha

 

 

 

 

Dafuk is a Shark Card Conspiracy? lol

[TheHolyNZF]

Does anyone know how the sales are split between ps3,XB360,ps4,XBO and PC?

[Rockstar_Fanboy]

 

 

People like this crack me up with fake Shark Card conspiracy bullsh*t. You can have everything in this game without ever buying a shark card

 

 

 

Wow... someone with a "Rockstar Fanboy" name tag defending shark cards.. Hahaha

 

 

 

 

Dafuk is a Shark Card Conspiracy? lol

 

 

Not sure you read that comment correctly--Shark Cards are irrelevant to me, I don't buy them (at least haven't for more than 2 years now) because I don't need them. My point is that the game can be fully played and enjoyed without ever buying one.

 

But since you asked, I will defend them: they provide the gamer who doesn't have time to put into the game because of real world obligations an option that allows them to buy things on a much shorter timeline. And thanks to all the people that do it, there are no direct fees associated with ALL of the DLC's I have gotten since the game's initial release. And Rock Star is making a healthy profit off of them. So it really is WIN-WIN-WIN.

Edited February 9, 2017 by Rockstar_Fanboy

[Mattoropael]

 

 

 

 

 

 

People like this crack me up with fake Shark Card conspiracy bullsh*t. You can have everything in this game without ever buying a shark card

 

 

 

Wow... someone with a "Rockstar Fanboy" name tag defending shark cards.. Hahaha

 

 

 

 

Dafuk is a Shark Card Conspiracy? lol

 

 

I actually looked up some dictionaries on "conspiracy":

 

(Cambridge)

 

Conspiracy

noun

- the activity of secretly planning with other people to do something bad or illegal

 

 

(Oxford)

 

Conspiracy

noun

1. A secret plan by a group to do something unlawful or harmful

 

 

I then looked back at the increasingly outrageous pricing of stuff since Heists and asked myself: What part of this is remotely "secret"?

Edited February 9, 2017 by Mattoropael

[Hyperlith]

That can get you 45,000,000 megladon shark cards

I'd buy that for a dollar!

[Picklez]

You certainly wouldn't think they've made so much money off this game by how sh*tty and amateur feeling it can be a lot of the time.

[Picklez]

 

 

People like this crack me up with fake Shark Card conspiracy bullsh*t. You can have everything in this game without ever buying a shark card if you enjoy playing the game and don't get in a damn hurry.

The year is 2017 and the direction of gaming now is MP. But I hear ya, plugged in my old Atari 2600 last week and was pissed to find out they aren't releasing any new titles for it. SOB's!!

 

That's a pretty fitting username you chose there.

 

This game revolves 100% around Rockstar's insatiable lust for Shark Card sales now, and to deny that is to deny something like the sun rising in the east and setting in the west.

[FrozenInferno]

 

 

 

People like this crack me up with fake Shark Card conspiracy bullsh*t. You can have everything in this game without ever buying a shark card if you enjoy playing the game and don't get in a damn hurry.

The year is 2017 and the direction of gaming now is MP. But I hear ya, plugged in my old Atari 2600 last week and was pissed to find out they aren't releasing any new titles for it. SOB's!!

 

That's a pretty fitting username you chose there.

 

This game revolves 100% around Rockstar's insatiable lust for Shark Card sales now, and to deny that is to deny something like the sun rising in the east and setting in the west.

Would you, or anyone else here, turn away more than $500 million? Didn't think so.

[Happy Hunter]

Would you, or anyone else here, turn away more than $500 million? Didn't think so.

Depends if I'd already made billions, I guess.

[SHADOW OPS]

 

 

 

 

People like this crack me up with fake Shark Card conspiracy bullsh*t. You can have everything in this game without ever buying a shark card if you enjoy playing the game and don't get in a damn hurry.

The year is 2017 and the direction of gaming now is MP. But I hear ya, plugged in my old Atari 2600 last week and was pissed to find out they aren't releasing any new titles for it. SOB's!!

 

That's a pretty fitting username you chose there.

 

This game revolves 100% around Rockstar's insatiable lust for Shark Card sales now, and to deny that is to deny something like the sun rising in the east and setting in the west.

Would you, or anyone else here, turn away more than $500 million? Didn't think so.

No. I like money

[Rockstar_Fanboy]

 

 

 

People like this crack me up with fake Shark Card conspiracy bullsh*t. You can have everything in this game without ever buying a shark card if you enjoy playing the game and don't get in a damn hurry.

The year is 2017 and the direction of gaming now is MP. But I hear ya, plugged in my old Atari 2600 last week and was pissed to find out they aren't releasing any new titles for it. SOB's!!

 

That's a pretty fitting username you chose there.

 

This game revolves 100% around Rockstar's insatiable lust for Shark Card sales now, and to deny that is to deny something like the sun rising in the east and setting in the west.

 

 

Reread my comment. Where did I say that they weren't? Oh, that's right, I didn't. You are arguing with yourself (and it isn't a particularly interesting or novel argument).

 

You absolutely could have played this game from inception to today and own everything in the game without ever buying a single Shark Card. True story.

[Picklez]

 

 

 

 

People like this crack me up with fake Shark Card conspiracy bullsh*t. You can have everything in this game without ever buying a shark card if you enjoy playing the game and don't get in a damn hurry.

The year is 2017 and the direction of gaming now is MP. But I hear ya, plugged in my old Atari 2600 last week and was pissed to find out they aren't releasing any new titles for it. SOB's!!

 

That's a pretty fitting username you chose there.

 

This game revolves 100% around Rockstar's insatiable lust for Shark Card sales now, and to deny that is to deny something like the sun rising in the east and setting in the west.

Would you, or anyone else here, turn away more than $500 million? Didn't think so.

 

Is that how much R* paid you to make that post?

 

 

 

 

People like this crack me up with fake Shark Card conspiracy bullsh*t. You can have everything in this game without ever buying a shark card if you enjoy playing the game and don't get in a damn hurry.

The year is 2017 and the direction of gaming now is MP. But I hear ya, plugged in my old Atari 2600 last week and was pissed to find out they aren't releasing any new titles for it. SOB's!!

 

That's a pretty fitting username you chose there.

 

This game revolves 100% around Rockstar's insatiable lust for Shark Card sales now, and to deny that is to deny something like the sun rising in the east and setting in the west.

 

 

Reread my comment. Where did I say that they weren't? Oh, that's right, I didn't. You are arguing with yourself (and it isn't a particularly interesting or novel argument).

 

You absolutely could have played this game from inception to today and own everything in the game without ever buying a single Shark Card. True story.

 

I'm pretty sure you said they weren't with the "fake Shark Card conspiracy" part of your post. Implying that the game doesn't revolve solely around Shard Cards.

 

So basically you went from that to acknowledging that it actually does.

[Rockstar_Fanboy]

@picklez.

 

I should have explained that better. The part about the conspiracy thing is that people blame EVERYTHING on shark cards, as if that is the only reason Rock Star does anything. That isn't true. Patch fixes that aren't money glitches, but just make the game better (and they have done thousands of these fixes) have nothing directly to do with Shark Cards. Here is a whole discussion on it where the OP blames escalating prices solely on Shark Cards:

 

http://gtaforums.com/topic/862362-honestly-think-shark-cards-ruined-rockstar/

 

What OP ignores (and many below on that thread point out to him), is that the ability to make money, the amount of money that is out there, has all risen dramatically, so it was inevitable that there would be price inflation. But people obsessed with these optional cards and how much money Rock Star makes off of them blame everything wrong with the game on Shark Cards. It's as if people don't understand that, without them, we would either being paying for DLC or we wouldn't have gotten anything near what we have now because of them. What I and others rightfully point out is that you can play this game every day since it was released, own whatever you want, and never buy one of these cards (I know plenty of people like that and there are plenty of people like that on here). Honestly there no reason to cry about something that has resulted in DLC's with no charge and gives the players more flexibility.. I will also say "conspiracy" was a poor word choice, as someone else above has pointed. I was being hyperbolic and dramatic. Hopefully this explanation is better.

[Happy Hunter]

Patch fixes that aren't money glitches, but just make the game better

They often break more than they fix, and change the game for the worse too.

[Rockstar_Fanboy]

 

Patch fixes that aren't money glitches, but just make the game better

They often break more than they fix, and change the game for the worse too.

 

 

No argument here. My point is that attempting to fix things, even if it doesn't work, really doesn't have anything to do with Shark Card sales.

[Sky_Light12]

 

Patch fixes that aren't money glitches, but just make the game better

They often break more than they fix, and change the game for the worse too.

* flashbacks *

" yay steam has GTA V summer sale discount , gotta whip out my gift card " ~ PC steam user

* about 20 minutes later *

" WHAT ?! they bundled it with tiger shark card and effectively raising the price back to $60 " ~ PC steam user

 

this one was notified by Ojo , apparently

[.Vooodu.]

 

 

 

People like this crack me up with fake Shark Card conspiracy bullsh*t. You can have everything in this game without ever buying a shark card

 

 

 

Wow... someone with a "Rockstar Fanboy" name tag defending shark cards.. Hahaha

 

 

 

 

Dafuk is a Shark Card Conspiracy? lol

 

 

Not sure you read that comment correctly--Shark Cards are irrelevant to me, I don't buy them (at least haven't for more than 2 years now) because I don't need them. My point is that the game can be fully played and enjoyed without ever buying one.

 

But since you asked, I will defend them: they provide the gamer who doesn't have time to put into the game because of real world obligations an option that allows them to buy things on a much shorter timeline. And thanks to all the people that do it, there are no direct fees associated with ALL of the DLC's I have gotten since the game's initial release. And Rock Star is making a healthy profit off of them. So it really is WIN-WIN-WIN.

 

 

Win/WIn?

 

They provide a game with content that can be earned by grinding.. But over price said content and put time constraint hurdles in place to hinder players in order to entice them to buy CASH CARDS.

 

Thats not a conspiracy. Thats basic F2P/Mircotransaction 101 in every game that has that kind of sh*t. An only trains R* and other game devs to avoid making high quality DLC and just churn out more money grab DLCS.

[Rockstar_Fanboy]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

People like this crack me up with fake Shark Card conspiracy bullsh*t. You can have everything in this game without ever buying a shark card

 

 

 

Wow... someone with a "Rockstar Fanboy" name tag defending shark cards.. Hahaha

 

 

 

 

Dafuk is a Shark Card Conspiracy? lol

 

 

Not sure you read that comment correctly--Shark Cards are irrelevant to me, I don't buy them (at least haven't for more than 2 years now) because I don't need them. My point is that the game can be fully played and enjoyed without ever buying one.

 

But since you asked, I will defend them: they provide the gamer who doesn't have time to put into the game because of real world obligations an option that allows them to buy things on a much shorter timeline. And thanks to all the people that do it, there are no direct fees associated with ALL of the DLC's I have gotten since the game's initial release. And Rock Star is making a healthy profit off of them. So it really is WIN-WIN-WIN.

 

 

Win/WIn?

 

They provide a game with content that can be earned by grinding.. But over price said content and put time constraint hurdles in place to hinder players in order to entice them to buy CASH CARDS.

 

Thats not a conspiracy. Thats basic F2P/Mircotransaction 101 in every game that has that kind of sh*t. An only trains R* and other game devs to avoid making high quality DLC and just churn out more money grab DLCS.[/quote)

 

This is where we disagree. I like the game and think the DLC's are quality, you don't. I also don't think grinding exists because when I get bored of something I stop doing it, even if that means it takes me longer to get something. People who "grind" do it to themselves.

[DarkSavageDeathlyCloud]

 

100s of updates later....... (100s is an obvious exaggeration)

 

"People simply pointed out that with all that money made, it's a shame that Rockstar haven't put just a little back into it"

 

 

 

Let me reword it for you.

It's a shame Rockstar have only put the money back directly into updates that just add more things to purchase* and fixing money/clothes glitches.

If Rockstar released tons of patches fixing bugs, balance issues and the servers I would be happy to congratulate them on their sales. But that's not reality.

 

*preferably with shark cards

 

Pretty much this.

 

I am slowly stopping to care about their updates, even before i got my 2nd favorit update were they gave us those nice ceo office garages....i just want this game to get a sh*tload of fixes and a balancing update.

[.Vooodu.]

This is where we disagree. I like the game and think the DLC's are quality, you don't. I also don't think grinding exists because when I get bored of something I stop doing it, even if that means it takes me longer to get something. People who "grind" do it to themselves.

 

 

Did you live under a rock?

 

This is what $20 got you in GTA 4.

 

 

 

 

 

What does $20 get you GTA V? A car?

 

 

 

 

And you're right.. People who grind do it to themselves. Because they can also buy cash card OR glitch to avoid the grind.

 

 

And the grind is real.. Because 90% of the updates require money to play the content thats added.

Edited February 10, 2017 by .Vooodu.

[Rockstar_Fanboy]

 

This is where we disagree. I like the game and think the DLC's are quality, you don't. I also don't think grinding exists because when I get bored of something I stop doing it, even if that means it takes me longer to get something. People who "grind" do it to themselves.

 

 

Did you live under a rock?

 

This is what $20 got you in GTA 4.

 

 

 

 

 

What does $20 get you GTA V? A car?

 

 

 

 

And you're right.. People who grind do it to themselves. Because they can also buy cash card OR glitch to avoid the grind.

 

 

And the grind is real.. Because 90% of the updates require money to play the content thats added.

 

 

Nope, wrong. It depends on your timeline. Mix up all of the activities that earn you money, keep them fresh, and the next thing you know you have money for whatever you want (I do think what you write, before Heists, was true, because money making options were limited. Not any more).

 

The people that get in a hurry, have to be the first to have something, or keep up with Joneses crowd (come look at all my fake sh*t) are the ones that face the choices that you present.

Edited February 10, 2017 by Rockstar_Fanboy

[feiaschdada]

 

This is where we disagree. I like the game and think the DLC's are quality, you don't. I also don't think grinding exists because when I get bored of something I stop doing it, even if that means it takes me longer to get something. People who "grind" do it to themselves.

 

 

Did you live under a rock?

 

This is what $20 got you in GTA 4.

 

 

 

 

 

What does $20 get you GTA V? A car?

 

 

 

 

And you're right.. People who grind do it to themselves. Because they can also buy cash card OR glitch to avoid the grind.

 

 

And the grind is real.. Because 90% of the updates require money to play the content thats added.

 

Nice, you don't need time to play a single player to get all the cars it brings!. Tell me your secret!

Edited February 10, 2017 by feiaschdada

[Ruiner 2000]

GTA V best game

[D9fred95]

Nope, wrong. It depends on your timeline. Mix up all of the activities that earn you money, keep them fresh, and the next thing you know you have money for whatever you want (I do think what you write, before Heists, was true, because money making options were limited. Not any more).

 

The people that get in a hurry, have to be the first to have something, or keep up with Joneses crowd (come look at all my fake sh*t) are the ones that face the choices that you present.

Mixing up activities barely works. Almost all activities pay out less than 25K in a game where items usually cost 5 Million. Biker jackets for example somehow cost 45K now, how is that balanced? Only CM's and Import/Export are worth a damn since everything else takes too long and Heists rely on your teammates being able to follow kindergarten instructions (which surprisingly they usually can't).

 

I tried mixing up activities several times. I had fun yeah, but that fun wore off when I realized I made less than a third of what I would've made if I did CM's. I don't even bother with them now and I suspect a couple thousand other players have too since I usually have trouble finding a decent amount of players in those modes when I do bother giving them a try.

[Rockstar_Fanboy]

 

Nope, wrong. It depends on your timeline. Mix up all of the activities that earn you money, keep them fresh, and the next thing you know you have money for whatever you want (I do think what you write, before Heists, was true, because money making options were limited. Not any more).

 

The people that get in a hurry, have to be the first to have something, or keep up with Joneses crowd (come look at all my fake sh*t) are the ones that face the choices that you present.

Mixing up activities barely works. Almost all activities pay out less than 25K in a game where items usually cost 5 Million. Biker jackets for example somehow cost 45K now, how is that balanced? Only CM's and Import/Export are worth a damn since everything else takes too long and Heists rely on your teammates being able to follow kindergarten instructions (which surprisingly they usually can't).

 

I tried mixing up activities several times. I had fun yeah, but that fun wore off when I realized I made less than a third of what I would've made if I did CM's. I don't even bother with them now and I suspect a couple thousand other players have too since I usually have trouble finding a decent amount of players in those modes when I do bother giving them a try.

 

 

I think we are playing a different game.

 

You write: "where items usually cost 5 Million" not counting the gold junk, there are two items that cost $5 million or more, the Yacht and the Ruiner. Maybe you just don't know what usually means.

 

None of your response address my main point, which is, over a long enough time frame, you will get the money you need for anything that you want. What generally happens, though, is that people who don't like the game all that much get bored of it quickly, so they don't want to put that time in (which is totally justifiable, as the game is 3 years old and the basic game play mechanics have not changed all that much). It took me months to earn the money for the Yacht, But since I enjoyed playing the game, didn't get in a hurry, it was not a "grind" for me. (thanks to info on this board, I knew it was coming and did it before it was released rather than after. But that is the advantage of information).

 

I think there are a lot of people who love the graphics, but don't really enjoy the game play all that much. For some reason, those people can't just let the game go..

Edited February 10, 2017 by Rockstar_Fanboy

[D9fred95]

 

I think we are playing a different game.

 

You write: "where items usually cost 5 Million" not counting the gold junk, there are two items that cost $5 million or more, the Yacht and the Ruiner. Maybe you just don't know what usually means.

 

None of your response address my main point, which is, over a long enough time frame, you will get the money you need for anything that you want. What generally happens, though, is that people who don't like the game all that much get bored of it quickly, so they don't want to put that time in (which is totally justifiable, as the game is 3 years old and the basic game play mechanics have not changed all that much). It took me months to earn the money for the Yacht, But since I enjoyed playing the game, didn't get in a hurry, it was not a "grind" for me. (thanks to info on this board, I knew it was coming and did it before it was released rather than after. But that is the advantage of information).

 

I think there are a lot of people who love the graphics, but don't really enjoy the game play all that much. For some reason, those people can't just let the game go..

 

I get what "usually" means. Perhaps usually is the wrong word, along with the 5 Million price tag. A decent amount of things in the game cost a bunch though, more than would be a reasonable price which is the problem me and several others have noticed. Lowriders are the most obvious example. It seems like every new update makes things more expensive which is why people grind. I grind using Import/Export so I'd have the cash in case the next update brings something cool to buy, something that won't happen as easily by mixing things up like you said. If buying a yacht took you months and you love mixing it up, it definitely will take longer for someone who dislikes that play style to do the same since they will "take breaks" in freeroam which may waste cash and time. Mixing it up is more of a preference obviously.

 

I get what you're saying though. Like you said, if you're having fun then you probably won't notice. If you're not looking to purchase anything then things like deathmatch and LTS are actually fun. It gives you stuff to do and all that. But the problem is that it's not a very good money making method in the long run which is why people argue against it a lot. I feel Import/Export honestly feels better at being a money making method in the long run even if it is a grind.

Edited February 10, 2017 by D9fred95