GTAO Unpopular Opinions

[Shadowfennekin]

2 hours ago, Pedinhuh said:

@DangerZ0neX

 

I have been using my Deluxo much more than my CEO Buzzard to be honest, 99% of crate buying runs are in the city and the Deluxo is much more versatile on it than any helicopter for pickup the crates and get going, plus I can drive it in my Avenger to drop the crates on the cargo hold.

 

And you can't beat how easy it is to take-off, land and evade homing missiles with it...Plus it's offensive capabilities are almost a guaranteed fail safe against jets.

 

Using the Deluxo just for PvE and self-defense situations is playing the game smart.

 

And honestly, buying/selling stuff in solo session is just downright boring and tedious, at least on populated public session I get a rush when moving cargo and have to be careful of my surroundings.

 

Plus, yesterday I sold a full large warehouse of CEO crates: thanks to 2x I got 4.4M out of it on the crates alone, plus 980k on the "high demand bonus"...I just asked for my friend to run defense on a Deluxo while I drove a Barricade around. Of course I used Ghost Organization to get going out of my warehouse.

 

Finally, I know you for your extremism in this forum, and even though I sympathize with some of it, I have to say this unpopular opinion of yours is the most unpopular due to how much of it is bullsh*t. 

^^^^

I used my Deluxo so much, it's honestly why I even bothered getting my last 500 crates to reach the gold statue. 

It really makes FR work more convenient. Shame some people have an unhealthy hate boner for it and try to kill any one they see flying through the air. Those people deserve getting their sh*t blown up I say, provoke me and I'll bide my time until you start some kind of work.

[kcole4001]

3 hours ago, DangerZ0neX said:

....... I've meet zero, and I mean zero, players who owned them and successfully resisted the temptation to shoot down others while cruising around them......

 

There are people who own these things because they like them, not because they belong to the g&t gang, and use them as described: to complete missions faster, easier, or just more interestingly (at least to them).

Personally, I love the Akula.

It's ideal for several missions, it's fast, powerful, gets rid of that 3rd wanted star at the push of a key (or button).

It's a little big, and kinda wobbly, but once you get used to a vehicle, it becomes second nature, and makes enjoying the game that much easier.

 

Everyone has their favorite vehicle, whether car, helo, plane, tank, whatever.

[ddubz91]

I hate aircraft, I hate flying them and I don't own a single Helicopter, Plane or whatever. No Deluxo or Jetpack either, I really like driving around in my car collection.

 

Sue me.

[R3CON]

So I also blow up Deluxos on sight, but due to a couple people not firing on me when they had the chance (in the Deluxo) I'm a bit more hesitant than I was about a week ago. Still, I don't have any remorse about those who randomly got hit for no reason. 

 

Way I see it, Deluxo is a griefers car. It's only a matter of time before it's used for no good. Yes I get the PvE, freeroam work uses. I myself use my Deluxo solely for freeroam crates, cargo, supplies, etc. It's good on land, can take out targets in the sky, it's helpful on the sea missions, etc, etc. I have a Back to the Future box set too for the record, so I fully get the idea that not everyone who has a Deluxo is up to no good. Some fly it for business, some for pleasure but still peacefully. 

 

Regardless, there's no way to know any how any given random feels about PvP and freeroam and pacifism so it's better to be safe than sorry. Most people you meet in freeroam attack on sight. It's a necessary defense mechanism in a violent game. You see that blip speeding towards you or that jet coming closer on the radar and chances are they're not going to hold hands or do your daily objectives with you. Chances are they're gonna pop off. It's the nature of the game. 

 

So rather than take my chances, Deluxos generally get hit on sight. But it's not just them. Oppressors get destroyed on sight too. I fly the Akula to destroy either of those two and guess what, I'm out here shooting down stray Akulas too. Those stray Akulas are also targeting me, go figure. These permanently off the radar helicopters aren't any better and if anything can troll people worse. I'll shoot explosive rounds at passing jets, fire a homing missile at that Savage a few blocks over, or launch a pre-emptive suicide attack on a tank nearby. Any one in a weaponized vehicle can't be trusted. 

 

However, I expect that same energy. Someone blows me up in the Akula, ehh good for them. Good to have situational awareness. An Oppressor comes after me in the Deluxo, sounds fair to me. Or vice  versa, when I'm using my Oppressor for MC Work (how are they to know what I'm up to). Say someone sends missiles after my Buzzard when I'm flying...ehh...things happen.

 

I can understand arguments calling for more weaponized content in the game and I can understand arguments calling for their removal. But what I can't understand is people who fly these weaponized vehicles and feel invincible or that they should somehow be left alone. It comes with the territory!! You're piloting/driving a weapon! Think about it. 

 

If you were really about peace and happiness and all that, you'd use something that isn't weaponized or you'd be in passive mode. Anything outside of that and your intentions are not clear. No way for any of us to know that you're not going to attack or cause trouble (in a weaponized vehicle). So don't take the attacks personal. We just have to be vigilant. 

Edited June 29, 2018 by R3CON

[Mach1bud]

10 minutes ago, R3CON said:

If you were really about peace and happiness and all that, you'd fly something that isn't weaponized or you'd be in passive mode.

To be fair, there are no non-weaponized flying vehicles that can just be spawned right next to you like the Deluxo, Oppressor, and Buzzard. I'd say the convenience factor is a major thing at play here. I mean, I fly my Buzzard often and have zero intentions of any combat, it just happens to be the only helicopter that I can spawn right next to me, and it happens to have missles attached to it. And of course you cannot really do anything in passive mode like freeroam work.

 

I'd say in general I agree with you, people in these vehicles are looking for a fight, but just saying there are exceptions.

 

I wish the Havok were cheaper and easier to land, I'd buy that since it's on the CEO list too and can be had with no weapons.

Edited June 29, 2018 by Mach1bud

[Forza Harrd]

I'm in love with my CEO Volatus. Easily sexiest vehicle in the game.

 

Oh yeah, in free roam I enjoy driving the cars with handling flags.

Edited June 30, 2018 by Forza Harrd
i liek teh flags

[Yellow Dog with Cone]

I also like the new adcanced flags, as flawed as they may be.

 

IMO, instead of removing them altogether, I would rather prefer to R* to tweak them, improve them and apply them to all land vehicles.

 

Everyone complains about EWO but no one complains about curb boosting, which is just as unfair, nonsensical and overpowered in the right hands. Not even Broughy1332.

[Kyoto]

We should have a revival system instead of team lives during missions and heists.

[Yellow Dog with Cone]

11 hours ago, Kyoto said:

We should have a revival system instead of team lives during missions and heists.

Imagine being able to revive teammates on Motor Wars...

 

"plz revive I have railgun"

[ddarko12]

my unpopular opinion: I can't stand being outside of passive. There's just no reason for me. Unless I'm a CEO or doing a setup or working on something else I see no point in not being passive. I dont enjoy being chased/killed for no reason and I don't think passive players are pussies either.

[UncleScrooge]

20 hours ago, Mach1bud said:

To be fair, there are no non-weaponized flying vehicles that can just be spawned right next to you like the Deluxo, Oppressor, and Buzzard.

Technically incorrect, the Deluxo is not weaponised when purchased. I own the Deluxo purely for its flying capabilities and chose not to weaponised it.

Edited June 30, 2018 by UncleScrooge

[kcole4001]

The first day I had my Akula I was just flying around to check it out and get the feel for it.

Totally stock, no upgrades at all, so all it had was the piddly MG.

It is CLEARLY visible that it does not have missiles of any kind at that point, yet I was targeted on sight, obviously unprovoked, as it had no real weapons and I had not fired on anyone.

 

Just sayin' people are way too trigger happy.

 

[NiggyTardust]

3 minutes ago, kcole4001 said:

The first day I had my Akula I was just flying around to check it out and get the feel for it.

Totally stock, no upgrades at all, so all it had was the piddly MG.

It is CLEARLY visible that it does not have missiles of any kind at that point, yet I was targeted on sight, obviously unprovoked, as it had no real weapons and I had not fired on anyone.

 

Just sayin' people are way too trigger happy.

 

It's even worse now with the PUBG/Fortnite mentality most people bring with them.

[FlacidJack]

14 hours ago, Kyoto said:

We should have a revival system instead of team lives during missions and heists.

I'd pay to see someone kneeling next to an incapacitated player feeding them Egochasers and eCola lol

[Big Molio]

 

On 6/29/2018 at 7:39 PM, Pedinhuh said:

@DangerZ0neX

 

I have been using my Deluxo much more than my CEO Buzzard to be honest, 99% of crate buying runs are in the city and the Deluxo is much more versatile on it than any helicopter for pickup the crates and get going, plus I can drive it in my Avenger to drop the crates on the cargo hold.

 

And you can't beat how easy it is to take-off, land and evade homing missiles with it...Plus it's offensive capabilities are almost a guaranteed fail safe against jets.

 

Using the Deluxo just for PvE and self-defense situations is playing the game smart.

 

And honestly, buying/selling stuff in solo session is just downright boring and tedious, at least on populated public session I get a rush when moving cargo and have to be careful of my surroundings.

 

Plus, yesterday I sold a full large warehouse of CEO crates: thanks to 2x I got 4.4M out of it on the crates alone, plus 980k on the "high demand bonus"...I just asked for my friend to run defense on a Deluxo while I drove a Barricade around. Of course I used Ghost Organization to get going out of my warehouse.

 

Finally, I know you for your extremism in this forum, and even though I sympathize with some of it, I have to say this unpopular opinion of yours is the most unpopular due to how much of it is bullsh*t. 

 

Also: 

 

"I've meet zero, and I mean zero, players who owned them and successfully resisted the temptation to shoot down others while cruising around them."

 

You haven't met me, I fail to see the point of shooting other players with my Deluxo because of insurance charges, in fact I make a point of not flying with the missiles ready as to avoid any accidental fire.

Destroy them on sight, that's my motto.

 

 

Edited July 1, 2018 by Big Molio

[Dburger]

5 minutes ago, Big Molio said:

 

 

What is the point of this apart from increasing warfare and stirring the pot? This only incentivizes more griefing. 

 

I sincerely hope that we don’t run into each other. 

[Big Molio]

4 minutes ago, Dburger said:

 

What is the point of this apart from increasing warfare and stirring the pot? This only incentivizes more griefing. 

 

I sincerely hope that we don’t run into each other. 

Does there need to be a point? Just a fun montage of Deluxo destruction. I hate the Deluxo so I blow them up for sh*ts and giggles.

You best hope we don't run into each other, because you'll end up like these if you pass in one lol (friendly bantz and all that)

[Dburger]

11 minutes ago, Big Molio said:

Does there need to be a point? Just a fun montage of Deluxo destruction. I hate the Deluxo so I blow them up for sh*ts and giggles.

You best hope we don't run into each other, because you'll end up like these if you pass in one lol (friendly bantz and all that)

 

That isn’t any less worse than blowing up cargo for sh*ts and giggles - make that my OT/unpopular opinion submission. 

 

And no, I won’t be caught up in your bullsh*t, smearing everybody who owns one of those cars as a bad player. Quite disgraceful if you ask me. Knowing you created something such as this would be more than sufficient. 

Edited June 30, 2018 by Dburger

[Yellow Dog with Cone]

I actually like the Deluxo, I just wish that its missiles were nerfed to Buzzard levels of tracking.

 

That way it would be still useful for PvE while at the same time it wouldn't be so dominant and obnoxious in Freemode.

 

Also reduce its max capacity to a multiplier of 4, like 12, 16 or 20. 30 rockets are way too much.

[Dburger]

4 minutes ago, Voodoo-Hendrix said:

I actually like the Deluxo, I just wish that its missiles were nerfed to Buzzard levels of tracking.

 

That way it would be still useful for PvE while at the same time it wouldn't be so dominant and obnoxious in Freemode.

 

Also reduce its max capacity to a multiplier of 4, like 12, 16 or 20. 30 rockets are way too much.

 

I would say that the fact that it blows up with one hit balances all of this out, though. The “smart” missiles give the driver a better chance to defeat their attacker, while the car’s lack of protection increases the attacker’s chances. They are pretty easy to counter, especially with a sh*tty driver. Going after them at will just borderline makes you the scum of the earth though, in my opinion. 

Edited June 30, 2018 by Dburger

[Big Molio]

17 minutes ago, Dburger said:

Going after them at will just borderline makes you the scum of the earth though, in my opinion. 

It’s only exercising the same extreme prejudice most other players show towards elements that they think sh*t on the game. My particular trigger is the Deluxo, and you can plead your case as much as you like, my opinion is that no good deed is ever done by a person driving one. They cause endless trouble, so for that reason I enjoy blowing them up before they can.

[Dburger]

7 minutes ago, Big Molio said:

It’s only exercising the same extreme prejudice most other players show towards elements that they think sh*t on the game. My particular trigger is the Deluxo, and you can plead your case as much as you like, my opinion is that no good deed is ever done by a person driving one. They cause endless trouble, so for that reason I enjoy blowing them up before they can.

 

I’ll be fine knowing your reasoning is false and illegitimate. No pleading needed. Realize that (hell, you probably have) that I take Deluxo-bashing quite personally. 

 

Unpopular opinion: As I just wrote that, all of it, my own disgust for willful destruction and even cargo destruction - all this debating included, kind of feels not worth it. In the end, it’s all a bunch of pixels. 

Edited June 30, 2018 by Dburger

[Malibu Club]

GTA Online is far from perfect, but it's definitely not a sin against gaming.

[Yellow Dog with Cone]

1 hour ago, Dburger said:

 

I would say that the fact that it blows up with one hit balances all of this out, though. The “smart” missiles give the driver a better chance to defeat their attacker, while the car’s lack of protection increases the attacker’s chances. They are pretty easy to counter, especially with a sh*tty driver. Going after them at will just borderline makes you the scum of the earth though, in my opinion. 

A vehicle that can go on land, air and sea while carrying 30 missiles that almost never miss doesn't turn balanced because you can blow it up with a single explosive if you can land it on the first place. The Homing Launcher is not that effective against them, the Explosive Sniper is behind a paywall and the Stromberg is OP on its own right but no one recognizes it.

 

The Deluxo has earned such a bad reputation in a short ammount of time that some players shoot them down on Sight regardless of if its user has been griefing with it or not.

 

Also I don't think that a weaponized pop culture reference should be able to defeat proper military vehicles like jets, helicopters and tanks with such ease, at least not a Delorean from BTTF, that role would better fit something like the Ruiner 2000 instead.

 

I understand your point of view, not all Deluxo drivers have bad intentions, some like it because of how versatile it is but please understand that if you go around with a weapon with bad reputation, people will take issue with it, some of them with extreme prejudice.

[Dburger]

44 minutes ago, Voodoo-Hendrix said:

A vehicle that can go on land, air and sea while carrying 30 missiles that almost never miss doesn't turn balanced because you can blow it up with a single explosive if you can land it on the first place. The Homing Launcher is not that effective against them, the Explosive Sniper is behind a paywall and the Stromberg is OP on its own right but no one recognizes it.

 

The Deluxo has earned such a bad reputation in a short ammount of time that some players shoot them down on Sight regardless of if its user has been griefing with it or not.

 

Also I don't think that a weaponized pop culture reference should be able to defeat proper military vehicles like jets, helicopters and tanks with such ease, at least not a Delorean from BTTF, that role would better fit something like the Ruiner 2000 instead.

 

I understand your point of view, not all Deluxo drivers have bad intentions, some like it because of how versatile it is but please understand that if you go around with a weapon with bad reputation, people will take issue with it, some of them with extreme prejudice.

 

I fully understand the risk (even if I believe that there is absolutely no truly legitimate reason for the risk to be there in the first place) of using a Deluxo in freemode. Attackers will be and have been dealt with accordingly, as it is my view that no one can legitimately shoot down a Deluxo without reason. Part of it might just be my experience. Maybe I’m just lucky, but I rarely get put in chaotic sessions and very, very rarely see Deluxos killing everything in sight, which is why I do not share any prejudice against them. Most of the time, I see Deluxos being used peacefully. 

 

I understand the prejudice. I was “griefed” to seemingly no end when the Oppressor came out, and whenever I see the icon on my map, I’m filled with dread. But, I can give the person using it the benefit of the doubt and unless they f*ck with me or other people’s product, I won’t f*ck with them. I always, always look at my map to see what’s happening and what other people are doing before I even leave my spawn point/house/etc. 

 

We’ll have to agree to disagree on a weaponized pop culture reference defeating military vehicles. The Deluxo’s weapons are behind multiple paywalls. It took me ages to weaponize mine (and I’ve said this before and will say it again even if it does nothing - it was only for convenience, not griefing). 

 

I also think this kind of goes back to something I said yesterday. Not everybody wants to grind for days on end. I think that this is often overlooked because grinding has become the “chosen” method of play by people who talk GTA on the internet. You choose to play the game that way, and you therefore choose to accept any consequences that that method of play comes with. If somebody’s out there killing every player in the session, I get it. I also kind of get the animosity from cargo destruction in that I destroy cargo griefers myself, Deluxo or not. Even still, you choose to play the game that way and if sh*t goes wrong, you suffer the consequences. You may be able to protect your sh*t or someone else may do it for you, but that’s not going to happen all the time if you’re in a regular public session. 

 

You may say that this still doesn’t justify “assholish” behavior, but everyone has a different definition of what an asshole is. Same thing with what exactly griefing is. 

 

I would trade my Deluxo for a GTAO with absolutely zero microtransactions. I hate the current trend of R* and the video game industry, as well as the broken GTA economy. I know full well that essentially, the Deluxo is a direct product of that. However, another unpopular opinion of mine would be that if R* is still greedy as hell when GTA 6 is out and that means that the Deluxo comes back because of it, so be it. More fun flights and more effective treatment of willful Deluxo destroyers. 

 

Edited June 30, 2018 by Dburger

[Lupo-Akane]

Any and all that have white dreadlocks and facepaint on should be shot on sight....

[MatadorUnity]

The Heists Update is the greatest update of all time for GTAO.

[Non Funkable Token]

5 hours ago, UncleScrooge said:

Technically incorrect, the Deluxo is not weaponised when purchased. I own the Deluxo purely for its flying capabilities and chose not to weaponised it.

 

I don't even use its flying abilities. I own it purely as the thing it should have been: a GTA saga classic car.

 

Probably an unpopular opinion by itself.

Edited July 1, 2018 by Fluffy Sock

[R3CON]

On 6/29/2018 at 6:25 PM, Mach1bud said:

To be fair, there are no non-weaponized flying vehicles that can just be spawned right next to you like the Deluxo, Oppressor, and Buzzard. I'd say the convenience factor is a major thing at play here. I mean, I fly my Buzzard often and have zero intentions of any combat, it just happens to be the only helicopter that I can spawn right next to me, and it happens to have missles attached to it. And of course you cannot really do anything in passive mode like freeroam work.

 

I'd say in general I agree with you, people in these vehicles are looking for a fight, but just saying there are exceptions.

 

I wish the Havok were cheaper and easier to land, I'd buy that since it's on the CEO list too and can be had with no weapons.

I hear you Mach. We need more options for the CEO/MC list that aren't weaponized but still very useful for jobs of this nature. A lack of diverse cargo vehicles for the sale/supply missions also contributes to the problem, since the easily spawned Buzzard/Oppressor are often the only ways of defense for a box truck or a slow RV.

 

There's definitely both elements of good and bad at play and there's no real right or wrong way to deal with these weaponized vehicles. I'm of the shoot on sight camp, but I get that it's unpopular or shied away from. Just different perspectives on the same problems. Today I was helping friends run sale jobs in freeroam for about an hour or two on the Oppressor, and during one such run I was blown up by someone in the Deluxo while moving through the city. Wasn't bothering anyone, just speeding through to the objective. But I was in a flying rocket bike with super-speed perfect-lock on missles, so you know...what could I say.

 

Later, I joined them in a different, less populated session in my Akula. They were using the Cargobob to scoop an Import-Export car off the freeway and I landed beside them to block traffic. One friend leaned out the side and opened fire at will, pretty much destroying the helicopter (porous black smoke) and almost killing me in the process. They realized who I was - after the fact - but I just responded with "no worries, I was off radar, I would've done the same".

 

@Dburger

Here's a helpful analogy that might explain the situation better. 

 

Edited July 1, 2018 by R3CON

[Big Molio]

8 hours ago, Dburger said:

 

I fully understand the risk (even if I believe that there is absolutely no truly legitimate reason for the risk to be there in the first place) of using a Deluxo in freemode. Attackers will be and have been dealt with accordingly, as it is my view that no one can legitimately shoot down a Deluxo without reason. Part of it might just be my experience. Maybe I’m just lucky, but I rarely get put in chaotic sessions and very, very rarely see Deluxos killing everything in sight, which is why I do not share any prejudice against them. Most of the time, I see Deluxos being used peacefully. 

 

I understand the prejudice. I was “griefed” to seemingly no end when the Oppressor came out, and whenever I see the icon on my map, I’m filled with dread. But, I can give the person using it the benefit of the doubt and unless they f*ck with me or other people’s product, I won’t f*ck with them. I always, always look at my map to see what’s happening and what other people are doing before I even leave my spawn point/house/etc. 

 

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I also kind of get the animosity from cargo destruction in that I destroy cargo griefers myself, Deluxo or not.

 

You may say that this still doesn’t justify “assholish” behavior, but everyone has a different definition of what an asshole is. Same thing with what exactly griefing is. 

There are a few contradictions in this post. You say that you understand the prejudice, but then declare that nobody can (I think you mean "should") shoot down a Deluxo without reason. In my experience, and in the experience of one or two others I imagine, I only ever see the Deluxo being used to cause trouble. I agree with DangerZoneX back up the thread there, where he says that he never sees a Deluxo driver able to hold his rockets when passing if they auto-lock onto something. The vehicle is a damn nuisance. If I am in session, players will get no peace from me if they are trying to get that thing in the air. It's my new sport, like duck shooting, but instead shooting at Deluxos. I'll pay the insurance, it's worth it.

Edited July 1, 2018 by Big Molio