How will rockatar ensure GTAO is "cheater" free in 2017?

[feiaschdada]

 

They won't devote the resources to ensure this. If you read the newswire, they specifically mentioned players sending in game reports. Don't expect much more than this.

^^^ This right here, if you don't want to get caught, don't get reported. It's obvious they fell safe there will be no mod menu on current gen consoles so they're just gonna block account transfers from old gen and hope players report all high rank / fake KD accounts and do the hard work for them. LOL

Yeah, because they don't know your rank... Edited February 1, 2017 by feiaschdada

[DarkSavageDeathlyCloud]

How about "not" ?

 

Realy, game is more then 3 years further, i am not expecting miracles anymore.

 

That being said, to be honest currently PC version is surprisingly cheaters free i must say.

 

I mean, sure i come across a few here and there, but it is pretty rare that someone is teleporting to me and killing me, there are stupid props anywhere or sh*t like that.

 

 

They won't devote the resources to ensure this. If you read the newswire, they specifically mentioned players sending in game reports. Don't expect much more than this.

I understood that excerpt like them thinking the players for making it less cheater infested but if what you say is true then wow pathetic.

such a rich company and they can't even control their own game environment when they're making such a big deal about it.

 

They can't "fix" it the way it needs to be due to the inherent architecture that the game is built upon.

They can do little things and they can stop transfers and ban accounts that have been reported, but to really eradicate scripts and other mods they have to start from scratch. Perhaps they will learn their mistakes from Online and design its replacement (GTA6 for lack of a better working name)

 

I better hope the next GTAO has dedicated servers, otherwise...well i enjoyed my stay in this game, especially considering it is a broken mess in general but....never ever again !!!

[GTA-Bobski]

I think the system is completely automated, maybe they have someone routinely checks if the system works but that's it.

The guy on 4chan that leaked alot of details about the MC and Import/Export DLC before it was released said this on the reports:

 

[IceDree]

1) they'll probably set up an automated system that checks for unrealistically high levels (i.e. lvl5000 & above) & flags them for reviews.

 

2) flag people who are reported repeatedly for a manual review to determine whether they are griefers, cheaters ... Etc. That way they give people the benefit of doubt. Say, a player with a Clean Player status is reported by a salty player for whatever, they check the claim & history of said player before taking any action.

[FrugalDangerMan]

1) they'll probably set up an automated system that checks for unrealistically high levels (i.e. lvl5000 & above) & flags them for reviews.

I'm still surprised they haven't already implemented this. It's simple to program an algorithm that looks at the age of an account and it's leveling history and other obviously modded numbers like a KD ratio of 120637.0

 

And the strange thing? These modded accounts don't make R* money. I mean, with their attitude about selling shark cards you'd think they would have been all over that sh*t by now.....

Edited February 1, 2017 by PNutterSammich

[IceDree]

 

1) they'll probably set up an automated system that checks for unrealistically high levels (i.e. lvl5000 & above) & flags them for reviews.

I'm still surprised they haven't already implemented this. It's simple to program an algorithm that looks at the age of an account and it's leveling history and other obviously modded numbers like a KD ratio of 120637.0

 

And the strange thing? These modded accounts don't make R* money. I mean, with their attitude about selling shark cards you'd think they would have been all over that sh*t by now.....

They probably looked the other way & hoped it'll go away (those players would move on to another game), but it clearly became an issue for them later on. And shutting down transfers all together is part of their "solution". With a new game in the pipe line & massive amount of cash is at risk, they have to show they can crack down on cheaters. And the post yesterday was a show of force kind of thing

[DoomAkuma]

 

I think the system is completely automated, maybe they have someone routinely checks if the system works but that's it.

The guy on 4chan that leaked alot of details about the MC and Import/Export DLC before it was released said this on the reports:

 

This would be interesting if true but wasn't this guy speculated to have been fierd by rockstar hence why he's leaking the info?

 

I bring it up because that might have been true before rockstar current cheating system and standards and is no longer true as they opted for the cheaper automated system of "get reported enough = ban" without anyone reviewing before bans are placed.

[Pedinhuh]

Build a wall, kick the cheaters out, and MAKE GTA ONLINE GREAT AGAIN!

[_47_]

HAHA....GTA 6 cheater free. That's a good one. There is no game on this planet that isn't cheat free.

 

The correct question should be,

 

"How fast will Rockstar deal with cheaters in GTA 6 and do we expect insta-perma bans for 1st offenses?" - This is what I hope will happen.

[MisFit-138]

Simple. They wont

[4eyedcoupe]

Well they could if they want to. Just update the code. The question is: why now? And would they really put the effort in it?

IIRC, it was RockstarF**ot who touched on this subject when the DLC stuff was leaked. He basically answered the "Why now" question in saying that with the RDR coming out in 2017, they needed to show that they do not condone modding/cheating and that starts by cracking down in GTAO. Again, I'm going from memory, so those aren't exact words, but pretty much the gist of it.

[Rockstar_Fanboy]

My question is, if someone else's cheating doesn't really impact you, why get so bent out of shape over it? I have been playing since day 1, play a lot, and can count on one hand the number of god mode cheater types that I have encountered. Got killed once, moved on. What I don't get is the jealousy some have over fake video game crap that others have. Who cares?

[We Are Ninja]

Well they could if they want to. Just update the code. The question is: why now? And would they really put the effort in it?

Well. We know who has a degree in computer science...

[YanktonGangster]

The only way they're cheater free is to shut it down.

[CarimboHanky]

My question is, if someone else's cheating doesn't really impact you, why get so bent out of shape over it? I have been playing since day 1, play a lot, and can count on one hand the number of god mode cheater types that I have encountered. Got killed once, moved on. What I don't get is the jealousy some have over fake video game crap that others have. Who cares?

day 1 player and can count with 1 hand the players in godmode you have encountered?!!

 

i would say, you dont play much freeroam i guess hahaha on ps3 there were entire months were people would abuse very simple godmode glitches, on ps4 when i transfered back in 2015, the game was plagued by passive mode with guns abusers.

[Skycam]

 

My question is, if someone else's cheating doesn't really impact you, why get so bent out of shape over it? I have been playing since day 1, play a lot, and can count on one hand the number of god mode cheater types that I have encountered. Got killed once, moved on. What I don't get is the jealousy some have over fake video game crap that others have. Who cares?

day 1 player and can count with 1 hand the players in godmode you have encountered?!!

 

i would say, you dont play much freeroam i guess hahaha on ps3 there were entire months were people would abuse very simple godmode glitches, on ps4 when i transfered back in 2015, the game was plagued by passive mode with guns abusers.

Ps3 was very bad for "God mode". For awhile players even had God mode on their cars FFS. Not to mention players blowing you up out of nowhere. Players completely invisible even on the mini map nowhere to be seen.

 

So glad ps4 is better. Only remember a few obvious cheaters and the one I remember the most was a guy teleporting to my location and killing me.

[MaxShadow]

Wait, you can report cheaters? Last time I tried to report a player, there wansn't any reason related to cheating.

[mute!]

R* is off to a good start.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=60jbk5DIxjk

[cipher656]

As long as i don't have to do anything i'm not particularly bothered really.

[wmblgy]

They have no effective way of preventing cheating without dedicated game servers. It's entirely Rockstar's fault that they attempted a game of this scale on P2P. Hope they learned a lesson for their next online venture.

 

 

Sucks transfering characters will soon be gone. Now i only will be left with 5 billionair accounts and 2 in with just a couple of hundreds of millions .

 

Seriously, if me driving this is tickling your fanny, then thats your problem.

Rockstar is stopping character transfers but because it is extremely easy to mod an account on old gen and sell it on real gen. Rockstar sells a sh*tty $8m cash card for twice their base game price. Most people would think that's a rip off. Those who don't mind buying an account will go for that rather than a sh*tty $8m cash card.

 

It's the attitude that gets people reported. Nobody gives a sh*t about your chrome wedge until you want them to give a sh*t (i.e. attention whoring). At that point someone is going to report you out of spite, even if they don't care about the tasteless garbage you drive.

[oleg_aka_djmeg]

Sucks transfering characters will soon be gone. Now i only will be left with 5 billionair accounts and 2 in with just a couple of hundreds of millions .

 

Seriously, if me driving this is tickling your fanny, then thats your problem.

 

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i don't really care but bragging about it in that way just makes you an asshole.

[Xiled]

Cheater free? This game? Were you born before the age of the radio? Nothing they put in place will stop people from cheating in this game. Everything they put in place either caused more cheating or caused more things to be exploited. Every time they patch a money glitch a new one replaces it. Sad to think after almost 3.5 years they want to make the game cheater free. There game is getting old time for them to make a new game and forget there mistakes with gta online. Since it would take having a modded account for 30 days with lots of money to transfer, there are only 2 days left to create new ones before it is too late. February 4th is the last day they can be created to transfer in time. Anything after that date wont be able to transfer in the 30 days of wait time. Knowing R* I bet they f*ck this up and people are still able to transfer after March 6th. They did that big money wipe a few months ago and people could get around it by unplugging there internet cable in the, you got account changed to screen and plugging it back it.

[FourFingersOfFun]

LMAO, so I looked up the force menu site after seeing that video (really hoping the remove ownership feature isn't legit" and it's utterly pathetic. 100$ for a one year subscription for their menu, if someone can drop 39k/40k cash bags, crash everyone in the session,snipe all players in a session,can commit insurance fraud or has invincible bodyguard npcs, that means they literally paid 100 f*cking dollars for a menu to cheat. As those features are for "legacy" tier purchasers LOL

 

Could you imagine being so desperate and pathetic at a game that you spend 100$ just to be able to cheat on it?

7$ for 7 days. 15$ for 30 days. 30$ for 3 months and 100$ for a year and access to legacy tier force menu options. Utterly pathetic. I really hope R* can shut down these scrubs and even take them to court if possible.

[CarnageRacing00]

LMAO, so I looked up the force menu site after seeing that video (really hoping the remove ownership feature isn't legit" and it's utterly pathetic. 100$ for a one year subscription for their menu, if someone can drop 39k/40k cash bags, crash everyone in the session,snipe all players in a session,can commit insurance fraud or has invincible bodyguard npcs, that means they literally paid 100 f*cking dollars for a menu to cheat. As those features are for "legacy" tier purchasers LOL

 

Could you imagine being so desperate and pathetic at a game that you spend 100$ just to be able to cheat on it?

7$ for 7 days. 15$ for 30 days. 30$ for 3 months and 100$ for a year and access to legacy tier force menu options. Utterly pathetic. I really hope R* can shut down these scrubs and even take them to court if possible.

I know, right? I used to admin a Counter Strike Source server. We'd get people VAC banned all the time and they'd come back a day later with a new account and a new copy of the game, spent money just so they could grief our server.

[HeavyDuke]

 

Sucks transfering characters will soon be gone. Now i only will be left with 5 billionair accounts and 2 in with just a couple of hundreds of millions .

 

Seriously, if me driving this is tickling your fanny, then thats your problem.

 

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i don't really care but bragging about it in that way just makes you an asshole.

 

And calling me an asshole makes you any less of an asshole? Nice logic you got there.

[feiaschdada]

 

Well they could if they want to. Just update the code. The question is: why now? And would they really put the effort in it?

IIRC, it was RockstarF**ot who touched on this subject when the DLC stuff was leaked. He basically answered the "Why now" question in saying that with the RDR coming out in 2017, they needed to show that they do not condone modding/cheating and that starts by cracking down in GTAO. Again, I'm going from memory, so those aren't exact words, but pretty much the gist of it.

 

Is a good reason. A better one would be, that they think of GTA:O more like of WOW, starting to make map expansions (that map is then used in a GTA:6 single player). So GTA:Online never get replaced, it gets updated. Read a really really old interview with Benz stating that it is designed to do that.

 

Well they could if they want to. Just update the code. The question is: why now? And would they really put the effort in it?

Well. We know who has a degree in computer science...

 

I sense sarcasm. Funny thing: I actually have one

Edited February 2, 2017 by feiaschdada

[update_lsc]

I don't know anything about coding, but after updates, cheats seem to break. Couldn't rockstar just release a 2mb update that changes a tiny little thing everyday? Wouldn't that solve the problem? And if you don't have the latest patch installed, you can't go online. Dunno, that'd seem like a good solution to me.

[BravoAlphaRomeo]

They Won't.

[MaxShadow]

I don't know anything about coding, but after updates, cheats seem to break. Couldn't rockstar just release a 2mb update that changes a tiny little thing everyday? Wouldn't that solve the problem? And if you don't have the latest patch installed, you can't go online. Dunno, that'd seem like a good solution to me.

 

Due to the way the game works, it's not that easy to stop cheaters. As far as I know, the MP part works with a P2P system. There are no individual servers, every player trades information with the rest, and with the main Rockstar server. The game works like if you were playing SP, and since there isn't a server to control the info that comes in and out of the players, they can do whatever they want. There are ways to detect cheating (for example, if a player has 20k and suddently he has 50 millons, thats not possible under normal circunstances), but most cheats can only be detected by a system running in the player's PC, checking game files sizes before starting. It would still be possible to cheat by memory injection, but checking game files should reduce the amount of "modders". Rockstar don't seem to be investing much money to fight cheaters anyway, they seem to be more interested in patching money making glitches, because that hurts their business more than cheaters.

[Chief theef]

They aint doing sh*t. Just saying words they think will drive sales.