Heist etiquette for failure

[foreverfun]

A lot of people fight about it when the heist fails because someone has quit early. This is basic etiquette everyone should be following:

 

1. If you opt to time yourself when quitting, and you quit too early, and the driver of the boat is not driving like an idiot, you are obligated to restart your heist to pay the cohost.

2. If you opt to quit out yourself, and the driver is driving like an idiot, you are not obligated to restart your heist.

3. If your cohost is telling you when to quit, and you quit exactly, or after he tells you to, and it is too early, you are not obligated to restart your heist.

4. If you quit earlier than what your cohost tells you, and you end up quitting too early, you are obligated to restart your heist, whether or not the driver is driving like an idiot.

5. If your cohost mistakenly quits out of the heist also, believing that it was his turn, you are not obligated to restart the heist.

[Malibu Club]

If the driver is an idiot and never makes progress after 25 attempts, I'm obligated to leave the heist.

Edited January 31, 2017 by Daedalheidis

[Smooth Longsack]

Fail heist

Drink bleach

[_47_]

Or I can just do whatever I feel like because I play this game like everyone else and I follow my own rules and no one elses....Just sayin

 

I only stay if they are really giving it all their effort.

Edited January 31, 2017 by 4N0M4LY

[FlacidJack]

"A lot of people fight me when the heist fails because I quit early"

Fixed

 

Anyways, this is not the time to be openly discussing a glitch... Too soon man! It's like your partner just passed away and you start talking about how hot you find someone else days after. Not cool.

Edited January 31, 2017 by FlacidJack

[camo_boy67]

I feel like this more B&M then anything. If you're having an issue with people quitting heists. Then you should either stop playing with random or find better friends. But that's my two cents on this topic.

[DarkSavageDeathlyCloud]

I leave after 3 tries

 

during the time people hosted the pacific standard they should have had time enough to read some guides on the internet and learn to drive bikes, making failure impossible.

Again, heists are not hard.

[foreverfun]

Or I can just do whatever I feel like because I play this game like everyone else and I follow my own rules and no one elses....Just sayin

 

I only stay if they are really giving it all their effort.

Exactly, so this works in your favour. If some idiot tells you to restart the heist for him because he told you to quit too early, then it is not rude to refuse to.

[foreverfun]

"A lot of people fight me when the heist fails because I quit early"

Fixed

 

Anyways, I'm mad people are doing heist finales over and over, when I want to do it properly so have to grind setups. Not cool.

fixed

I feel like this more B&M then anything. If you're having an issue with people quitting heists. Then you should either stop playing with random or find better friends. But that's my two cents on this topic.

This doesn't happen to me non stop, but I've had times where they tell me to quit the wrong time, and demand I restart it. Or they quit earlier than I say, and refuse to restart it. These are not really rules, just etiquette, common sense people should be following.

 

I leave after 3 tries

 

during the time people hosted the pacific standard they should have had time enough to read some guides on the internet and learn to drive bikes, making failure impossible.

Again, heists are not hard.

 

You've misunderstood what I'm talking about. I'm talking about the cohost quitting at the end to keep his heist. Not dying and such, simply quitting at the wrong time. No one uses bikes. Only people who insist on doing it properly, or people who don't know how to use a police riot, or kuruma(before they removed it)

[camo_boy67]

Just because you demand something, doesn't mean you deserve it.

But either way thoughyou may just need someone who's better at pulling the plug.

[Pedinhuh]

For me, with randoms it's 3 times then I'm out, plain and simple.

[DarkSavageDeathlyCloud]

 

"A lot of people fight me when the heist fails because I quit early"

Fixed

 

Anyways, I'm mad people are doing heist finales over and over, when I want to do it properly so have to grind setups. Not cool.

fixed

I feel like this more B&M then anything. If you're having an issue with people quitting heists. Then you should either stop playing with random or find better friends. But that's my two cents on this topic.

This doesn't happen to me non stop, but I've had times where they tell me to quit the wrong time, and demand I restart it. Or they quit earlier than I say, and refuse to restart it. These are not really rules, just etiquette, common sense people should be following.

 

I leave after 3 tries

 

during the time people hosted the pacific standard they should have had time enough to read some guides on the internet and learn to drive bikes, making failure impossible.

Again, heists are not hard.

 

You've misunderstood what I'm talking about. I'm talking about the cohost quitting at the end to keep his heist. Not dying and such, simply quitting at the wrong time. No one uses bikes. Only people who insist on doing it properly, or people who don't know how to use a police riot, or kuruma(before they removed it)

 

If the cohost is quiting on purpose just before its payout time he is an idiot and deserves to be abandoned.

[foreverfun]

 

 

"A lot of people fight me when the heist fails because I quit early"

Fixed

 

Anyways, I'm mad people are doing heist finales over and over, when I want to do it properly so have to grind setups. Not cool.

fixed

I feel like this more B&M then anything. If you're having an issue with people quitting heists. Then you should either stop playing with random or find better friends. But that's my two cents on this topic.

This doesn't happen to me non stop, but I've had times where they tell me to quit the wrong time, and demand I restart it. Or they quit earlier than I say, and refuse to restart it. These are not really rules, just etiquette, common sense people should be following.

 

I leave after 3 tries

 

during the time people hosted the pacific standard they should have had time enough to read some guides on the internet and learn to drive bikes, making failure impossible.

Again, heists are not hard.

 

You've misunderstood what I'm talking about. I'm talking about the cohost quitting at the end to keep his heist. Not dying and such, simply quitting at the wrong time. No one uses bikes. Only people who insist on doing it properly, or people who don't know how to use a police riot, or kuruma(before they removed it)

 

If the cohost is quiting on purpose just before its payout time he is an idiot and deserves to be abandoned.

 

agreed

[Sagrawa]

In the case of nr3, you're basing your ideas on wrong perceptions, OP. There are a few factors that could cause you to close the app at a wrong point, even when the other guy is "spot on".:

 

-You haven't got a perfect 3-2-1 sequence set...you jump at 'one', where he is expecting you to wait for 'Go!'

-Lag is totally different to other people you've played with and you need to go sooner or later.

 

Never encountered someone quitting when it wasn't their turn. You might be able to hear it when they're that drunk.

[fw3]

This is basic etiquette everyone should be following:

 

Good afternoon. Devil's Advocate, here, with one question:

 

Says who?

Edited January 31, 2017 by fw3

[FlacidJack]

 

 

"A lot of people fight me when the heist fails because I quit early"

Fixed

 

Anyways, I'm mad people are doing heist finales over and over, when I want to do it properly so have to grind setups. Not cool.

 

fixed

I feel like this more B&M then anything. If you're having an issue with people quitting heists. Then you should either stop playing with random or find better friends. But that's my two cents on this topic.

 

This doesn't happen to me non stop, but I've had times where they tell me to quit the wrong time, and demand I restart it. Or they quit earlier than I say, and refuse to restart it. These are not really rules, just etiquette, common sense people should be following.

 

I leave after 3 tries

 

during the time people hosted the pacific standard they should have had time enough to read some guides on the internet and learn to drive bikes, making failure impossible.

Again, heists are not hard.

 

You've misunderstood what I'm talking about. I'm talking about the cohost quitting at the end to keep his heist. Not dying and such, simply quitting at the wrong time. No one uses bikes. Only people who insist on doing it properly, or people who don't know how to use a police riot, or kuruma(before they removed it)

 

 

wrong, i'm not mad when someone does it to me by accident but you're right that I'm happy to help anyone do setups. It's all a part of the game,

Edited January 31, 2017 by FlacidJack

[foreverfun]

In the case of nr3, you're basing your ideas on wrong perceptions, OP. There are a few factors that could cause you to close the app at a wrong point, even when the other guy is "spot on".:

 

-You haven't got a perfect 3-2-1 sequence set...you jump at 'one', where he is expecting you to wait for 'Go!'

-Lag is totally different to other people you've played with and you need to go sooner or later.

 

Never encountered someone quitting when it wasn't their turn. You might be able to hear it when they're that drunk.

We always get the counting sequence perfect, and if there is lag, we compensate for it. etiquette is not intended to blame people, or throw accusations, it is just how people get along, there are unwritten rules, that have common sense. All I've done is write them.

 

 

This is basic etiquette everyone should be following:

 

Good afternoon. Devil's Advocate, here, with one question:

 

Says who?

 

do you know what etiquette means?

 

 

 

"A lot of people fight me when the heist fails because I quit early"

Fixed

 

Anyways, I'm mad people are doing heist finales over and over, when I want to do it properly so have to grind setups. Not cool.

 

fixed

I feel like this more B&M then anything. If you're having an issue with people quitting heists. Then you should either stop playing with random or find better friends. But that's my two cents on this topic.

This doesn't happen to me non stop, but I've had times where they tell me to quit the wrong time, and demand I restart it. Or they quit earlier than I say, and refuse to restart it. These are not really rules, just etiquette, common sense people should be following.

 

I leave after 3 tries

 

during the time people hosted the pacific standard they should have had time enough to read some guides on the internet and learn to drive bikes, making failure impossible.

Again, heists are not hard.

You've misunderstood what I'm talking about. I'm talking about the cohost quitting at the end to keep his heist. Not dying and such, simply quitting at the wrong time. No one uses bikes. Only people who insist on doing it properly, or people who don't know how to use a police riot, or kuruma(before they removed it)

 

 

wrong, i'm not mad when someone does it to me by accident but you're right that I'm happy to help anyone do setups. It's all a part of the game,

 

I never said it wasn't an accident. These things happen sometimes, not just to idiots. And the rules I posted are not supposed to biased to any given situation. I didn't make these rules. Unwritten etiquette always exists, and when you try to write it, it looks as though you've invented the rules yourself. Most people follow these rules anyway, but there are one or two egotistical or autistic pricks who don't seem to understand. That's what I've wrote this for. They only look like rules because I've tried to verbalise etiquette.

[Mach1bud]

If anyone "quits" at all in any heist whether it be mine or theirs, I leave and never do any heists with them again.

 

That is my etiquette.

[foreverfun]

If anyone "quits" at all in any heist whether it be mine or theirs, I leave and never do any heists with them again.

 

That is my etiquette.

I'm sure they'll be in tears

[FlacidJack]

I assume you play with a friend or buddy if you have any confidence in them, so you would really join their heist, let them take a 0$ payout and then let them do the setups without you if they lose their heist? Talk about etiquette!

I understand if a host continuously fails to grasp the concept it's their own fault but somewhere along the way if you're in their heist you can easily teach them how to do things right, or chose a different teammate. it's really not rocket surgery, IMO there's no need for written rules on why and when we shouldn't help friends set up a heist. Especially on a public forum since it's not the "legit" way.

 

Just my thoughts, feel free to write rules for the people you play with.

[The Wandering Hunter]

hydra grief instead of failing heists

[REXX]

I'm not obliged to do anything.

[Solid Scorpion]

I leave after 3 tries

 

For me, with randoms it's 3 times then I'm out, plain and simple.

Yup 3 is a magic number.

[fw3]

 

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This is basic etiquette everyone should be following:

 

Good afternoon. Devil's Advocate, here, with one question:

 

Says who?

do you know what etiquette means?

Yes, I do, but your malcontented reply still doesn't answer my question.

 

You stated that, "this IS basic etiquette EVERYONE should be following."

 

I replied with a sincere, "Says who?"

 

I'm not sure why that's a difficult question. Just curious as to why you believe your perspectives on the matter should be observed, as you said, by "everyone."

 

That's all.

[foreverfun]

I assume you play with a friend or buddy if you have any confidence in them, so you would really join their heist, let them take a 0$ payout and then let them do the setups without you if they lose their heist? Talk about etiquette!

I understand if a host continuously fails to grasp the concept it's their own fault but somewhere along the way if you're in their heist you can easily teach them how to do things right, or chose a different teammate. it's really not rocket surgery, IMO there's no need for written rules on why and when we shouldn't help friends set up a heist. Especially on a public forum since it's not the "legit" way.

 

Just my thoughts, feel free to write rules for the people you play with.

No no, you misunderstand. I'm not talking about if they quit too late, I'm talking about if they quit too early, so that it fails. If the cohost quits too late, then you pay him back, and then you can't do heists anymore. Unless you want to help with his setups. I don't always have friends online so I use lfg websites and forums to find players.

 

I'm not obliged to do anything.

 

that's because you're an asshole and people like are you are why I never host first.

 

 

 

 

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This is basic etiquette everyone should be following:

 

Good afternoon. Devil's Advocate, here, with one question:

 

Says who?

do you know what etiquette means?

Yes, I do, but your malcontented reply still doesn't answer my question.

 

You stated that, "this IS basic etiquette EVERYONE should be following."

 

I replied with a sincere, "Says who?"

 

I'm not sure why that's a difficult question. Just curious as to why you believe your perspectives on the matter should be observed, as you said, by "everyone."

 

That's all.

 

 

Really? Well if you know what etiquette means then you know your question is null. No one invented the rules, everyone just goes by them, because that's how the rules evolved in society. If you really want to pin this on someone, then everyone invented these rules, though that would make little sense to you, so you're going to go round in circles. There isn't a single person that makes up unwritten rules. That's why they're unwritten. The reason I have written these are for the few who don't have the decency to follow them. Here is an example of etiquette- If you get on a train and there is only one person sitting on it. Common etiquette is that you don't sit next to that person. Now if you want to, you could go and sit next to him. Is it illegal? No. Is it weird? Yes. Is it uncomfortable? Yes.

 

The same goes here- if people aren't following common sense and etiquette, it's not necessarily 'bad', but it will cause distrust within a community, and spark arguments.

 

When I say 'obligated', you can of course choose not to. But don't be surprised if you get named and shamed on the lfg site for scamming.

[REXX]

 

I'm not obliged to do anything.

that's because you're an asshole and people like are you are why I never host first.

 

 

Wow, just wow. You instantly assumed. I hate people like that, really I do.

[FlacidJack]

Sorry! I did misunderstand but now my misunderstanding is even worse. So what happens in all those scenarios if it's the first heist?

[feiaschdada]

What the actual f*ck...?!?

Edited February 1, 2017 by feiaschdada

[Non Funkable Token]

Still can't figure if the op is talking about quitting when doing the PS finale glitch (intended), or quitting at all.

 

If it's the later, 3 fails is a good number to quit. 2 if I'm busy, 1 if the host was somehow rude at the beginning.

[fw3]

 

 

 

I assume you play with a friend or buddy if you have any confidence in them, so you would really join their heist, let them take a 0$ payout and then let them do the setups without you if they lose their heist? Talk about etiquette!
I understand if a host continuously fails to grasp the concept it's their own fault but somewhere along the way if you're in their heist you can easily teach them how to do things right, or chose a different teammate. it's really not rocket surgery, IMO there's no need for written rules on why and when we shouldn't help friends set up a heist. Especially on a public forum since it's not the "legit" way.

Just my thoughts, feel free to write rules for the people you play with.

No no, you misunderstand. I'm not talking about if they quit too late, I'm talking about if they quit too early, so that it fails. If the cohost quits too late, then you pay him back, and then you can't do heists anymore. Unless you want to help with his setups. I don't always have friends online so I use lfg websites and forums to find players.

 

I'm not obliged to do anything.

 

that's because you're an asshole and people like are you are why I never host first.

 

 

 

 

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This is basic etiquette everyone should be following:

 

Good afternoon. Devil's Advocate, here, with one question:

Says who?

do you know what etiquette means?

Yes, I do, but your malcontented reply still doesn't answer my question.

You stated that, "this IS basic etiquette EVERYONE should be following."

I replied with a sincere, "Says who?"

I'm not sure why that's a difficult question. Just curious as to why you believe your perspectives on the matter should be observed, as you said, by "everyone."

That's all.

 

 

Really? Well if you know what etiquette means then you know your question is null. No one invented the rules, everyone just goes by them, because that's how the rules evolved in society. If you really want to pin this on someone, then everyone invented these rules, though that would make little sense to you, so you're going to go round in circles. There isn't a single person that makes up unwritten rules. That's why they're unwritten. The reason I have written these are for the few who don't have the decency to follow them. Here is an example of etiquette- If you get on a train and there is only one person sitting on it. Common etiquette is that you don't sit next to that person. Now if you want to, you could go and sit next to him. Is it illegal? No. Is it weird? Yes. Is it uncomfortable? Yes.

 

The same goes here- if people aren't following common sense and etiquette, it's not necessarily 'bad', but it will cause distrust within a community, and spark arguments.

 

When I say 'obligated', you can of course choose not to. But don't be surprised if you get named and shamed on the lfg site for scamming.

 

 

Perhaps I'm not being clear. In your original post, you express your opinion of what the etiquette on this matter is.
Some may agree while others may not.

Even in the example about sitting on a train, that is your opinion of what "common etiquette" means and what is weird or uncomfortable.
Again, some may agree while others may not.

What gets my muffin in the tumble dry is when people post their opinions that speak for a community.
The whole thing doesn't matter to me, either way, which is why I wrote "Devil's advocate," previously.

No need to reply back to my points, as it's moot from here.
I'll respectfully withdraw from the thread, as I have nothing more to contribute.

Except that I'm with REXX on this one. Cheers!

Edited February 1, 2017 by fw3