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MisterDLCdreams

Pacific Standard Kuruma method patched?

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Black-Dragon96

 

Edit 2: @ JuniorChupp

It was more a general statement on everyone who says that you are only allowed to play the "intendet way". I simply dont like it when people want to restrict other players on how those other players have to play.

It's only R* who can say how the game should be played, some people just agree with them. Everything in between is opinion.

 

As for the Sandbox thing, GTA free roam (and the jobs missions within it) can be described as sandbox, I do not think the scripted missions/heist can be be labelled as sandbox though otherwise you could approach them in any way you see fit.

 

Also what's the JuniorChupp all about...

 

A typo?

A friendly take the mickey out of my name to soften the opposing points of view we have?

Or a flat out take the mickey out of my username because we disagree?

I typed it wrong. Jesus chill your tits bro.

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Coolname

some people will learn the correct way to play this heist now but most of them will give up. i expect alot less pacific standard lobbies in the future. think about it, its on the same cancerlvl as the prison heist now.

 

you want to die by a heartattack? play heists with randoms!

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Voit Turyv

Looks like I was banned just in time to stop.

Not that I was actively heisting for past 6 months... :lol:

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R3CON

So I agree with both schools of thought.

 

Side A: "The Kuruma is a logical option for such a serious heist"

 

If stealing a Kuruma is a great choice to rob some dinky, run of the mill Fleeca bank on the side of the freeway then surely a Kuruma is a great choice to rob the Pacific Standard in downtown Vinewood where the bank CEO is making personal calls to the Mayor to stop you. The Kuruma in Fleeca only drives about a mile, if that, to the bridge. Considering the cop spawns, the drive length and the pressure put on a player in Pac Stand, the Kuruma is a significantly more logical choice than an exposed motorcycle. In my opinion, using this option was only natural.

 

Side B: "I don't need the Kuruma, but the randoms do"

 

This is also quite valid. I posted confirmation that the method was patched and posted pictures to prove it on page 1. What you didn't see was the repeated restarts, the successive money losses, the deaths back and forth and some didn't even make it to the dinghy on time.

 

I made it to the boat everytime and didn't die once, whether in a stolen cop car, NPC car or on the bikes (which is more fun IMO). My teammates couldn't handle it. Restart after restart after restart after restart!! Mind you, these are people who didn't even do the run. I did the run everytime solo last night and thinking back, I always do the run. There's been several times randoms have vehemently demanded I don't do the run, thinking I'll die (I'd do it anyway, I mean I'm here to play the game). Or others would depend on me to do the run, since everyone else would be quiet/shy away from doing it themselves or alone.

 

Long story short: People have gotten so used to being coddled by the Kuruma. So overly reliant on the Heavy Combat outfit and glitches, shortcuts and half-assed methods of doing the heist that they literally can not pass it. They can't do the run, they can't survive the drive to the boat and sometimes they can't even make it there on time. It's ludicrous and it's unnecessary.

 

So this patch: Is it the end of the world? Not in the slightest. Is it the end of Pac Stand being a great way to earn cash? Nope, not at all. But the community, by and large, sucks at this mission and are so used to shortcuts they don't know how to pass it the right way.

 

Some say, they'll be forced to get good. Others think, people will abandon the mission entirely. Both are likely. But I don't think one side is more right than the other.

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Gnocchi Flip Flops

-snip-

:sigh: I'm sorry this has to be the most ridiculous thing I've read this week, and that's not a compliment.

 

I'm sorry, the sad fact is that if you find spite in this, you really should reevaluate what you're doing with your time/life because that's pathetic. Period.

 

Never change, GTAF...

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Milesinho

I hate the Kuruma. It kills all the fun in most contact missions. It's just a game-breaking carbuncle.

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DarkSavageDeathlyCloud

 

-snip-

:sigh: I'm sorry this has to be the most ridiculous thing I've read this week, and that's not a compliment.

 

I'm sorry, the sad fact is that if you find spite in this, you really should reevaluate what you're doing with your time/life because that's pathetic. Period.

 

Never change, GTAF...

 

I re-evaluated my life once....and i joined The Dark Side.

 

Your mockery of my being means nothing to me, while your tears just give me power.

 

edit: that being said, GTAF is like a small part of my life, it is not that i am on this site all day or something, in case you would like to tell yourself that to make yourself feel better :)

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The Barcode

Regarding the Kuruma Glitch

This is what I know so far:

- Both crowd controls cannot enter their garages/apartments

- Demolitions can enter the apartment if he doesn't have the money

- I've heard rumors that the hacker can get in as well if he doesn't have the money

 

Here's a video showing this:

 

It is unclear to me at this time whether you need to have cop stars on you or not to successfully enter and whether blowing up the bikes before or after you get in influences whether you successfully get in or not. What's also unclear is if going in through the garage door or apartment door has any influence on anything either.

 

Instead of fighting, let's work the problem, fighting and bickering won't solve anything guys.

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ATeaDaze

I'm baffled by all of these Rockstar fanboys celebrating a new game limitation.

 

I probably defend Rockstar more than most people on this forum but these guys are ridiculous.

"Hooray! More limitations!"

 

That's what I look for in my sandbox games.

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Gnocchi Flip Flops

The issue is not "oh I suck without the Kuruma" the issue is it just got more tedious to do the only quality source of income in an already tedious game. It kind of defeats the purpose. I'm already getting settled and have everything I want at the moment, and honest I haven't actively played GTA Online since the snow storms. I can grind and have grinded to earn millions from missions in the past as well as setups and vanilla heists. It's boring. Time consuming. Totally not fun. And I don't have the time these days. I only have time to play games on the weekend and I'd rather spend that "precious" time doing things I enjoy.

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flexcreator

 

Having money in this game IS fun.

 

 

I disagree.

 

I have cars and bikes that cost over $2 mil, I also have Luxor Deluxe.

But riding the $800 bmx is still more fun than any of those vehicles IMO.

 

I do agree that Heists are linear as hell and boring because of that.

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DarkSavageDeathlyCloud

Good, still means that if i got 1 friend joining, i am still safe from the kuruma bullsh*t, while randumbs and noobs can still use this tactic.

 

Honestly seems like a good thing for everyone then.

I no longer have to be forced by worthless lowlife to sit in some sh*tty car or even get my bikes being blown up, unless joining a randumb heist, which is still fair since if i am not the host, i have no right of speaking and if i am the host, i can cockblock everyone from using that sh*tty car....awsome !

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Gnocchi Flip Flops

while your tears just give me power

*cringes*

 

No tears here, more just "well'p, glad I wasn't that interested anyway"

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MaddenedGhost

Regarding the Kuruma Glitch

This is what I know so far:

- Both crowd controls cannot enter their garages/apartments

- Demolitions can enter the apartment if he doesn't have the money

- I've heard rumors that the hacker can get in as well if he doesn't have the money

 

Here's a video showing this:

 

It is unclear to me at this time whether you need to have cop stars on you or not to successfully enter and whether blowing up the bikes before or after you get in influences whether you successfully get in or not.

 

Instead of fighting, let's work the problem, fighting and bickering won't solve anything guys.

 

"Instead of fighting, let's work the problem, fighting and bickering won't solve anything guys." :^::^::^::^:

I've done it three times few hours ago while being the hacker and couldn't get in, i tried before and after blowing up the bikes and i tried before and after respawning near the bikes, no results

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Black-Dragon96

Lol, creativity and not being effected[...]

Well you are not effected by people who want to use the kuruma, you can still drive with a bike or a random car. If someone trys to force you in the kuruma and you dont want to, simply leave the lobby.

 

Also the moaning that i would die.....

"No i wont die easy on this f*cking heist since i am not some noob like most people like you playing this game !" jeezes, f*cking glad this kind of things is probably gonna be ancient history very quickly very soon.

Getting run over by a spooked npc or a deadly accurate cop has nothing to do with being a noob.

 

The grind in a kuruma is boring as f*ck [...]

Just because you think its boring that does not mean that everyone thinks the same.

 

Im sorry to say it, but: Your post is one of the dumbest things that i have ever read in my entire life.

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The Barcode

"Instead of fighting, let's work the problem, fighting and bickering won't solve anything guys." :^::^::^::^:

I've done it three times few hours ago while being the hacker and couldn't get in, i tried before and after blowing up the bikes and i tried before and after respawning near the bikes, no results

Ok did you have the money?

You should try demolitions with no money

Watch the video.

I'm really at a loss here just trying to help

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brose_sfr

Meh, I've moved on from heist some time ago, terrible way of making money for me since I'm a lone wolf.

same.

 

Heisting seems like a waste of time unless you've got a permanant team.

 

selling cars and random CEO work in between cool downs is a faster way to get $ for the lonewolf.

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JohnnyXR

Finally, about time.

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MaddenedGhost

 

 

Regarding the Kuruma Glitch

This is what I know so far:

- Both crowd controls cannot enter their garages/apartments

- Demolitions can enter the apartment if he doesn't have the money

- I've heard rumors that the hacker can get in as well if he doesn't have the money

 

Here's a video showing this:

 

It is unclear to me at this time whether you need to have cop stars on you or not to successfully enter and whether blowing up the bikes before or after you get in influences whether you successfully get in or not.

 

Instead of fighting, let's work the problem, fighting and bickering won't solve anything guys.

"Instead of fighting, let's work the problem, fighting and bickering won't solve anything guys." :^::^::^::^:

I've done it three times few hours ago while being the hacker and couldn't get in, i tried before and after blowing up the bikes and i tried before and after respawning near the bikes, no results

Ok did you have the money?

You should try demolitions with no money

Watch the video.

I'm really at a loss here just trying to help

 

No, i didn't have the money, i will try it later as a demolition with no money and see if it works, anyway thanks man even if it's not working at least you're trying to help here

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feiaschdada

Regarding the Kuruma Glitch

This is what I know so far:

- Both crowd controls cannot enter their garages/apartments

- Demolitions can enter the apartment if he doesn't have the money

- I've heard rumors that the hacker can get in as well if he doesn't have the money

 

Here's a video showing this:

 

It is unclear to me at this time whether you need to have cop stars on you or not to successfully enter and whether blowing up the bikes before or after you get in influences whether you successfully get in or not. What's also unclear is if going in through the garage door or apartment door has any influence on anything either.

 

Instead of fighting, let's work the problem, fighting and bickering won't solve anything guys.

So they fixed sh*t, they just did something somewhere and know it changed the behavior of this function. Yeah, but this forum starts fighting each others dead over something they most likely didn't want to do in the first place? Seems legit.

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Raavi

Kuruma method was/(or is still going by some comments) the single least excruciatingly tedious method of gaining some more significant amounts of GTAO$ in less ludicrous periods of time. Which was great for people such as myself who didn't have all the time to 'grind' just to be able to get access to the shiny new things that made the game enjoyable. The game is long past its prime, in any event, so most "damage" has already been done. Patching it in any capacity now years after the fact makes no sense whatsoever.

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DarkSavageDeathlyCloud

 

Lol, creativity and not being effected[...]

Well you are not effected by people who want to use the kuruma, you can still drive with a bike or a random car. If someone trys to force you in the kuruma and you dont want to, simply leave the lobby.

 

Also the moaning that i would die.....

"No i wont die easy on this f*cking heist since i am not some noob like most people like you playing this game !" jeezes, f*cking glad this kind of things is probably gonna be ancient history very quickly very soon.

Getting run over by a spooked npc or a deadly accurate cop has nothing to do with being a noob.

 

The grind in a kuruma is boring as f*ck [...]

Just because you think its boring that does not mean that everyone thinks the same.

 

Im sorry to say it, but: Your post is one of the dumbest things that i have ever read in my entire life.

 

I can not drive with a lectro bike unless i am with proper friends because randumbs always blow them up.

And again, those kuruma users have become more cocky and ignorant since i joined PC last year.

They are pretty much starting to ram people that do not want to deal with their sh*t more and more.

So that being said, yes they influence me.

 

Spooked NPC's will not kill you easy when you are walking around in the area of the standard pacific, unless you are running and shooting in the middle of the road.

Must say this would have been a problem if any factor forced you onto the street like is sometimes the case when fighting in freeroam and cops and other players are everywhere around you shooting, but you do not have to shoot anything when looking for a car until you see cops and they get out, but then its simply a matter of killing those and taking their car.

On top of that, there is not a load of traffic if one just destroyed the bikes.

Further, the cops their accuracy is not an issue with a heavy utility vest, when being on foot i am rarely even snacking, unless of course, some idiot doing crowd control brought noose, and even then, as a really long time grinder of this heists, those noose vans are only becoming common once coming closer to the main highway, i barely see then in the 2 minute frame after hitting the last checkpoint.

 

Indeed, but because of kuruma noobs becoming an annoyance i can not say that i do not like this happening at all.

Also consider how some people find heists boring....they become in fact less boring once you start to leave that noobcube called "kuruma" more and they are far from suicidal if one uses a heavy utility vest, unless you are a complete useless sh*t that should stop even joining heists entirely.

 

It is not like this heist does not have an option for a player saved outfit like the really dreadful setup called "trash trucks", which honestly just needs 4 people gobling snacks and a bit of informative chatting.

 

 

Kuruma method was/(or is still going by some comments) the single least excruciatingly tedious method of gaining some more significant amounts of GTAO$ in less ludicrous periods of time. Which was great for people such as myself who didn't have all the time to 'grind' just to be able to get access to the shiny new things that made the game enjoyable. The game is long past its prime, in any event, so most "damage" has already been done. Patching it in any capacity now years after the fact makes no sense whatsoever.

Well, the easiest method is cash cards(probably the only reason why they did this) :)
Also if the new info is correct, people still can use those noob cars if they want if they host and nobody patched the repeat glitch so i do not see what is the issue for anyone.
And even if not, there is a police car about 100 meters away, always, sure if the driver lacks any driving skills you might lose a few k's, but what is 20 to 40 k again ?
Can't even buy a massacro with that amount of peasant cash.
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Gnocchi Flip Flops

Kuruma method was/(or is still going by some comments) the single least excruciatingly tedious method of gaining some more significant amounts of GTAO$ in less ludicrous periods of time. Which was great for people such as myself who didn't have all the time to 'grind' just to be able to get access to the shiny new things that made the game enjoyable. The game is long past its prime, in any event, so most "damage" has already been done. Patching it in any capacity now years after the fact makes no sense whatsoever.

I could not have said it better myself and I'm in the same situation. I don't have as much free time and I have other things I want to do with my free time than play video games as well. So that leaves very little opportunity to play and of course I would rather spend that time actually playing the game, GTA as it was intended to be, rather than grinding. Grinding is not playing that game. All I remember about grinding is the hassle, all of the time I could've spent doing something actually fun, etc.

 

People don't get it though. The majority of this section is underage. I had all of the time in the world in high school. After that? Nooope. Nope. Nope.

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JuniorChubb

I typed it wrong. Jesus chill your tits bro.

I did chill bro...

 

That is exactly why I asked you before responding with a knee jerk reaction. :)

 

The same way I asked if your other comment was aimed at me or gamers in general before responding.

 

Pretty chilled considering some of the rage reaction posts you get on GTAF.

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DarkSavageDeathlyCloud

 

Kuruma method was/(or is still going by some comments) the single least excruciatingly tedious method of gaining some more significant amounts of GTAO$ in less ludicrous periods of time. Which was great for people such as myself who didn't have all the time to 'grind' just to be able to get access to the shiny new things that made the game enjoyable. The game is long past its prime, in any event, so most "damage" has already been done. Patching it in any capacity now years after the fact makes no sense whatsoever.

I could not have said it better myself and I'm in the same situation. I don't have as much free time and I have other things I want to do with my free time than play video games as well. So that leaves very little opportunity to play and of course I would rather spend that time actually playing the game, GTA as it was intended to be, rather than grinding. Grinding is not playing that game. All I remember about grinding is the hassle, all of the time I could've spent doing something actually fun, etc.

 

People don't get it though. The majority of this section is underage. I had all of the time in the world in high school. After that? Nooope. Nope. Nope.

 

I work, i still post now and then in the "find lobbies & meetup" section, and i am not only gaming in my free time.

 

Also like you and i said already, then buy a cash card.

 

Or better, dupe and glitch.

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Gnocchi Flip Flops

You support duping and glitching but not this? f*ck logic. Really...

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Raavi

Also if the new info is correct, people still can use those noob cars if they want if they host and nobody patched the repeat glitch so i do not see what is the issue for anyone.

And even if not, there is a police car about 100 meters away, always, sure if the driver lacks any driving skills you might lose a few k's, but what is 20 to 40 k again ?
Can't even buy a massacro with that amount of peasant cash.

 

Noob cars, even though that even within the context of the game, and I'm talking narratively - using an armored car is the most logical way of going about a bank heist? The game has you stealing and using an armored Kuruma for the first heist which is set in a small local bank. Applying at least equal that amount of precautionary measures for the biggest bank heist you're undertaking seems like the obvious choice, no?

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cipher656

Tbh i retired from earning money about 6 months ago. All i do on GTA is drive my millions of pounds worth of cars. There would have to be a pretty drastic change of money earning potential for me to come out of retirement. I own everything i want, i have no need to earn more money.

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DarkSavageDeathlyCloud

You support duping and glitching but not this? f*ck logic. Really...

I have said it several times before(after i lost hope in this game ever getting a propper fix, before that, i honestly was against cheats), that i do not care that anyone abuses the sh*t out of this broken crappy game.

 

Also i am not some noob hater per se, for an example noobs in random regular missions do not bother me, if they die, i can still finish the game without their "help".

 

But i really draw a line if randumb people have the habit of first blowing up your first choise of transport and then get a kuruma and start either ramming you in the random car, get in your way or, if you are not fast enough, just start driving you over and are so clueless they think you would have died regardless once they finally kill you in your own heist.

 

This is not some "elite me, everyone should do it like this kind of thing" for me, this is about sh*tty players feeling elite while being crap and demanding you also start following their crappy way.

Back on ps3 i had no problem when a team mate wanted to use the kuruma, we just went all on the bikes, i went to drive a bike(often me and some other people to) while the low level friend(or in rare cases, just kuruma users, went and use his idiot proof car.

 

Also what has become also a thing now i think about it, is these days if randumbs cant get in their car, does not matter if you yourself are carrying and are already in a nice car of the streets heading to sandy shores, they will not just die anymore, they just will go and kill themselves, not even trying to git gut and finish the mission.

 

If all this was not the case, why would i care to block randumbs from their way of playing ?

 

 

 

Also if the new info is correct, people still can use those noob cars if they want if they host and nobody patched the repeat glitch so i do not see what is the issue for anyone.

And even if not, there is a police car about 100 meters away, always, sure if the driver lacks any driving skills you might lose a few k's, but what is 20 to 40 k again ?
Can't even buy a massacro with that amount of peasant cash.

 

Noob cars, even though that even within the context of the game, and I'm talking narratively - using an armored car is the most logical way of going about a bank heist? The game has you stealing and using an armored Kuruma for the first heist which is set in a small local bank. Applying at least equal that amount of precautionary measures for the biggest bank heist you're undertaking seems like the obvious choice, no?

 

 

Then again, you can wonder if it was even ever intended this way.

Add to that the fact that this heist really pays a lot....and really a lot more then anything else for everyone and to me that seems unlikely.

Besides that, the kuruma being the easiest way, does not make it the least noobish.

Everyone by now knows this trick, yet barely anyone seems to survive on bikes....what really is the noob vehicle in comparison ?

 

It's like jets in freeroam, sure i use that garbage thing any day of the week i am playing for about everything in freeroam to counter all the crap going on in those places, that does not make it less of a noob vehicle.

Does not mean i like how it stands now.

 

If talking about the narrative logic in this game, man....a lot of sh*t does not and never made sense in that way in this game anyhow.

Must say that it is a good argument that somehow the bikes are served in the last hardest heist while the easiest heist just "has" to be done in a kuruma, but that is how games sometimes work and this one especially.

 

protip for anyone liking the armored kuruma in heists: grind fleeca :)

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JuniorChubb

Noob cars, even though that even within the context of the game, and I'm talking narratively - using an armored car is the most logical way of going about a bank heist? The game has you stealing and using an armored Kuruma for the first heist which is set in a small local bank. Applying at least equal that amount of precautionary measures for the biggest bank heist you're undertaken seems like the obvious choice, no?

I would pick insurgent over Kuruma and then Valkyrie over Insurgent, all introduced as vehicles you use in heists.

 

My escape vehicle would also be a submarine, not a dinghy.

 

But we dont plan the heists, Lester does, you got his number so give him a call. ;)

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