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MisterDLCdreams

Pacific Standard Kuruma method patched?

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Maddened_Ghost

 

 

 

 

Well, the heist update is now dead to me. R*, once again, patching anything fun and creative.

 

I'm not gonna drive stupid f*cking bikes. I'm not an idiot.

LMFAO at these people :D

 

LMAO at you. It wasn't a glitch. Now, people are gonna glitch. All my heist friends have started duping, and have made more in the last few minutes than this heist ever gave. R* just shot themselves in the f*cking foot. Like always.

 

correct, LMAO at those people thinking that it was a glitch too

instead of fixing an actual bug that prevented the PVs from spawning at the start of the heist, they prevented access to the garage.

also why on earth shouldn't i be able to get in my garage during heists? what's the logical reason behind the garage being magically locked even to the freaking owner of the apartment, let alone other properties.

 

 

The logical reason? Accessing your private property during the middle of one of the largest manhunts in the history of Los Santos would be incredibly stupid for a real criminal. Even going NEAR your property would be stupid. If we're going to analyze this as if anything in GTA is realistic (which of course it's not), going into your own garage and driving a car registered to you after robbing a bank and stealing over a million dollars is about as f*cking dumb as any YouTube video of a criminal getting stuck in a vent trying to break into a store at night, or whatever. It would be an *asinine* thing to do. The bike escape doesn't make any sense to begin with, but using your personal vehicle from your personal garage is even dumber.

 

yeah, getting in the private property is dumb, using a bike to escape during the largest manhunt in the history of Los Santos is smarter, SMH.

i've done it with bikes countless times, it's boring, funny crap always happen when we drive the kuruma there, especially when it's lagging so that's more fun for me than driving those damn bikes, it was fun the first 4 times but it's boring now.

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SHADOW OPS

@Nutduster. I'm afraid that you lost them at competent.

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feiaschdada

 

 

In before double RP hiests confirmed for next month. Be ready.

Never. Not before they fix the no set up glitch, what they seem not to can do on the current way the game decides payouts.

 

Rockstar always patch in steps. They take a target and patch what they can easily first but they ALWAYS double up the fix or come back for more on that target. At the very least they will change the timing on the close app glitch. Imho they are convinced they can fix it after working on the race betting. Hence this first step.

 

They can change the timing? Maybe, but that will help for 1 day, or 2. After seeing how the game reacts to what, I say it is hard for them to fix that bug without getting to some core mechanics of how the game functions (like networks). It is not impossible and hell, we know that GTA Online has some really bad design choices from the start, but fixing that one will be require a lot of code rewrite. If they really do that, we must assume that all the rumors of them slowing down on GTA Online updates are false.

 

The current "fix" to the kuruma (and I don't think that method is a bug/glitch at all) could be just "good luck" because they wanted to change something complete other thing. You guys start to need to understand how much in that game is connected, uses the same code etc. Thats why they just can't change the hydra and lazer: A lot of missions, etc would have to be changed, everytime one of them is used (like the heist setup where you steal one) may drastically change, making it not an "easy" but an "pain in the ass" change.

 

So it is safe to assume, that "fix" to the kuruma method is just a side effect of something else they wanted to change.

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allinclusive

Double $/RP Heists incoming? :D

 

Maybe you'll actually lose money in the pac final this time.

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Nutduster

 

 

I've played the bikes to death. Bikes are boring as f*cking sh*t. I don't care if you can get a full take using bikes. So can I. It's not hard, it's tedious.

 

 

 

It's not even about the kuruma. I don't care. Sometimes I want to escape on a faggio. Can't do that now. Escape in an issi, movie style? Nope. Not unless you get lucky and find one.

 

Restricting gameplay is stupid. People who defend it are dumb. If you want there to be only one way to complete everything, watch a movie. Games are supposed to be fun.

 

 

You'd have a point if there weren't a million other things to do in GTA. If you don't like the movie-style scripting of heists, do ANYTHING else. Yes it would be ideal if heists had more flexibility in them, but that's the tradeoff you make to play an exciting scripted mission (at least it's exciting the first few times). You have many other options though, and most of them are more flexible than heists as well, so get over it. It's not the end of the world.

 

And by the way, you still have a lot of choice on heists. The route on the bikes is not scripted - you don't need to follow the checkpoints at all. And you don't even have to use the bikes! Steal a car off the street, steal a cop car, steal a riot van.

 

LOL @ the Faggio comment, too. You'd miss the timer to make it to the boat by, oh, about 5 minutes I think.

 

You mean do the thing I said I would do in my first f*cking post? You know, quitting heists? Thanks for the advice pal...

 

 

I'm sorry, what I meant to say was "Quit playing heists, and stop whining."

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Cratoz

Of course the f*cking heist was doable on Faggios, you could even do it with bicycles

 

 

 

Just wheelie and get faster and do the front wheel bunnyhop on bikes to get faster.

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Nutduster

@Nutduster. I'm afraid that you lost them at competent.

 

Apparently. The bike method isn't even hard for decent players - as long as you wear the vests, there is a LOT of margin for error - and the only scenario where you lose much money is if the guy with the money bag crashes right in front of an army of cops. Which sucks, but should be rare if you pick a good route. And the bikes are a hell of a lot more fun than the dumb Kuruma. Hell, when I was grinding this heist with friends, I would often take the bike by myself (not the money though) while they drove the Kuruma. I can't imagine how that's enjoyable at all for anyone except the driver, and even for him, there's zero risk - it's just driving. Sleepytime.

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Natsuki

 

 

 

I've played the bikes to death. Bikes are boring as f*cking sh*t. I don't care if you can get a full take using bikes. So can I. It's not hard, it's tedious.

 

 

 

It's not even about the kuruma. I don't care. Sometimes I want to escape on a faggio. Can't do that now. Escape in an issi, movie style? Nope. Not unless you get lucky and find one.

 

Restricting gameplay is stupid. People who defend it are dumb. If you want there to be only one way to complete everything, watch a movie. Games are supposed to be fun.

 

 

You'd have a point if there weren't a million other things to do in GTA. If you don't like the movie-style scripting of heists, do ANYTHING else. Yes it would be ideal if heists had more flexibility in them, but that's the tradeoff you make to play an exciting scripted mission (at least it's exciting the first few times). You have many other options though, and most of them are more flexible than heists as well, so get over it. It's not the end of the world.

 

And by the way, you still have a lot of choice on heists. The route on the bikes is not scripted - you don't need to follow the checkpoints at all. And you don't even have to use the bikes! Steal a car off the street, steal a cop car, steal a riot van.

 

LOL @ the Faggio comment, too. You'd miss the timer to make it to the boat by, oh, about 5 minutes I think.

 

You mean do the thing I said I would do in my first f*cking post? You know, quitting heists? Thanks for the advice pal...

 

 

I'm sorry, what I meant to say was "Quit playing heists, and stop whining."

 

Ok, I'll stop using the forum for its intended purpose. Discussing the game isn't allowed here, I forgot.

 

Twat.

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Nutduster

Of course the f*cking heist was doable on Faggios, you could even do it with bicycles

 

99% of the player base wouldn't be able to pull off either one, and you know it. It doesn't really matter what's technically possible. They'd try to follow Lester's route and time out, or they'd crash/get hit by the cops and it would be all over with. The times I've done this heist with randoms, we've usually been lucky to all be in the boat with a minute to spare, and the Lectros/Kuruma are much faster.

 

I'm sorry, what I meant to say was "Quit playing heists, and stop whining."

 

Ok, I'll stop using the forum for its intended purpose. Discussing the game isn't allowed here, I forgot.

 

Twat.

 

 

You're not discussing anything, you're cry-assing and making disingenuous points that you don't really believe just because you're mad that they patched something you used to make easy money from.

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Cratoz

 

Of course the f*cking heist was doable on Faggios, you could even do it with bicycles

99% of the player base wouldn't be able to pull off either one, and you know it. It doesn't really matter what's technically possible. They'd try to follow Lester's route and time out, or they'd crash/get hit by the cops and it would be all over with. The times I've done this heist with randoms, we've usually been lucky to all be in the boat with a minute to spare, and the Lectros/Kuruma are much faster.

That wasn't the point either. You said you would miss the timer by 5 minutes. Said, some people don't do it for fun but instead just money which is not the case. At. All.

 

Also, it's self explanatory that you can't do that with randoms

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xInfamousRYANx

The reason i always chose a kuruma is because of f*cking lag. There is nothing worse than having to dodge aim botting cops and suicide squad cars. On top of that lets factor in the lag I get especially playing with people from halfway around the world so now not only am i dealing with all of the above I also have to deal with "demon cars and demon dragging" cars spawning out of thin air moving sideways and dragging you along. Not to mention the Lectro is a heavy brick that catches on curbs.

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Nutduster

 

 

Of course the f*cking heist was doable on Faggios, you could even do it with bicycles

99% of the player base wouldn't be able to pull off either one, and you know it. It doesn't really matter what's technically possible. They'd try to follow Lester's route and time out, or they'd crash/get hit by the cops and it would be all over with. The times I've done this heist with randoms, we've usually been lucky to all be in the boat with a minute to spare, and the Lectros/Kuruma are much faster.

That wasn't the point either. You said you would miss the timer by 5 minutes. Said, some people don't do it for fun but instead just money which is not the case. At. All.

 

Also, it's self explanatory that you can't do that with randoms

 

 

You are way wide of the point here. What I'm talking about is why people are in this thread right now having a meltdown over this patch, and you know damn well that it's almost entirely because they liked using the Kuruma to make easy, effortless cash. Yes, you CAN do the heist in weird ways with personal vehicles. Most people don't, and that's not what anyone is actually talking about except Irish Hunter who is just scrabbling to try to salvage some dignity in an argument he already lost.

The reason i always chose a kuruma is because of f*cking lag. There is nothing worse than having to dodge aim botting cops and suicide squad cars. On top of that lets factor in the lag I get especially playing with people from halfway around the world so now not only am i dealing with all of the above I also have to deal with "demon cars and demon dragging" cars spawning out of thin air moving sideways and dragging you along. Not to mention the Lectro is a heavy brick that catches on curbs.

 

Take a better route and you mostly won't have to worry about any of that. Like I said, you can do 90% of it off-road. Once you leave the city you should barely even see the cops.

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elfoam

I need to hear the reformed shadowops opinion on this as he's somehow gained 50 iq points and or less medication since his hiatus. To the point where I agree with him most of the time now. Oddly..

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Cratoz

No, if 99% are doing it for money or not wasn't my point from the beginning.

 

I said nothing about money, I showed you that this is possible wat which some guys here laughed at.

 

If most people do it for money or not, I couldn't care less

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SHADOW OPS

I need to hear the reformed shadowops opinion on this as he's somehow gained 50 iq points and or less medication since his hiatus. To the point where I agree with him most of the time now. Oddly..

I am still the same on the inside. Play the game the way the game allows you to or play something else. Whining is for the weak minded.

 

Whining...petitions...does nothing.

 

Play the hand you are dealt. There are games I don't like...and guess what...

 

I DON'T PLAY THEM.

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xCarlaP_x

Just use the swat vans if you really want to. Does the helicopter still spawn at Vespucci helipad?I

 

I only play the heist/setups if I get invites from a couple people that play them so it doesn't really bother me. The kuruma method was boring though as I don't enjoy being idle in a game.

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Gridl0k

How disappointing.

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Dragon_Of_Tragedy

the people who first found this out even finish the heist or rage quit?

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Mazawattee

I've always wanted to do the kuruma method since I prefer efficiency rather than what is the most impressive.

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Gridl0k

I've always wanted to do the kuruma method since I prefer efficiency rather than what is the most impressive.

 

I don't mind failing due to law enforcement, or my own stupidity, but a hidden rock behind an apex? f*ck that. And as for trying this heist with randoms, which used to be tolerable, ha, never again.

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SHADOW OPS

I've always wanted to do the kuruma method since I prefer efficiency rather than what is the most impressive.

The most efficient way was the police chopper. When Rockstar removed that players raged...While the rest of us adjusted accordingly and kept on truckin.

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Mazawattee

 

I've always wanted to do the kuruma method since I prefer efficiency rather than what is the most impressive.

 

I don't mind failing due to law enforcement, or my own stupidity, but a hidden rock behind an apex? f*ck that. And as for trying this heist with randoms, which used to be tolerable, ha, never again.

 

I've never even completed this heist due to randoms. Well, them and that one time the boat teleported. But, point still stands.

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Gridl0k

On reflection I would downgrade that to borderline tolerable.

 

But now, your best ever run is going to end with random number 4 hitting a tree while parachuting to the boat.

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DarkSavageDeathlyCloud

 

 

Well, the heist update is now dead to me. R*, once again, patching anything fun and creative.

 

I'm not gonna drive stupid f*cking bikes. I'm not an idiot.

LMFAO at these people :D

 

LMAO at you. It wasn't a glitch. Now, people are gonna glitch. All my heist friends have started duping, and have made more in the last few minutes than this heist ever gave. R* just shot themselves in the f*cking foot. Like always.

 

If it was not a glitch we have to assume then that this is a mistake on rockstars fault.

 

That being said, i doubt it is :D

 

About them shooting themselves in the foot, they sometimes do, but this is not the case this time.

I do not see how this would lose them cash cards.

 

I guess I won't need the Kuruma garage anymore, but really, what made the devs get up and patch this method via tuneable after nearly two years of its existence?

 

Was it because of sheer boredom, executives orders because it somehow cuts into shark card sales, or just a bug-patch quota that needed to be fulfilled by targeting "bugs" that are really just methods they decided to be silent about? This company is harder to understand than ancient written languages.

My guess is: They didn't fix it, because they don't care about that at all. It was just an accident. If they want to fix something, they want to fix the "no setups" glitch, that is what really breaks income comparison.

 

It is rockstar, you never know.

I must say there is still a slim chance this was unintended, but i hope not and i think that, even if this was a mistake, which i already find doubtful, they will ever patch it.

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Mazawattee

 

I've always wanted to do the kuruma method since I prefer efficiency rather than what is the most impressive.

The most efficient way was the police chopper. When Rockstar removed that players raged...While the rest of us adjusted accordingly and kept on truckin.

 

Eh I can adapt. But the question is... can randoms adapt?

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SHADOW OPS

 

 

I've always wanted to do the kuruma method since I prefer efficiency rather than what is the most impressive.

The most efficient way was the police chopper. When Rockstar removed that players raged...While the rest of us adjusted accordingly and kept on truckin.

 

Eh I can adapt. But the question is... can randoms adapt?

No. Which is on them. Not Rockstar.

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Gridl0k

^ with all due respect, 100% incorrect.

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SHADOW OPS

If you are referring to me I disagree 100%.

 

Why not use a chopper or just teleport to the boat. GG cockstar.

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ash-274

 

 

 

 

That just proves that Lester (or others) is terrible at efficiently and safely planning heists.

lol ^^

 

I said that for a long time.

I mean we steal 4 bikes who are worth 750k each bike to rob a bank for 1 Million and in the process destroy those bikes.

If we would just have sold those bikes for 2/3 of their price we would have made 2 times of what we got from the bankrobbery. Less cops, less problems but more money. I mean those biker guys could hardly go to the police and tell them that we stole the bikes that tgey stole from someone else.

 

Humane Labs... Hydra + Insurgent + Valkirie - about $7 mln :) and profit is about $0.5 mln as i remember correctly.

 

Well you "recover sensitive information" for the IAA and they pay you 500k, not just steal the take.

But on topic, I can't wait to test this out. I haven't done it the proper way before. The Kuruma method was a think when I started playing and since then it became the main method.

It's time to lose a whole lotta take and die a whole lotta times.

 

Use the swat vans and follow the freeway, but don't tell anyone that i told you about this "glitch"What's with the armor fetish so many people have?

Just steal a police car and there's one parked near the bikes. Much faster and more responsive than the Riot Van and you can still keep 99-100% of the cash. You can often find Bullets on the streets during the escape, you just need 2-4 of them.

 

For that that said the PV methods wasn't a glitch: then how come you had to go into the garage to get it and not able to use the Mechanic contact to request it? It wasn't a huge glitch (I'd say it more of an "exploit" than an actual "glitch").

 

This fix doesn't make me sad. I know it does for others and I get that. Feel sad and B&M if you want, I won't complain. Just be happy that they still haven't fixed the skip-the-cop-gauntlet glitch or the repeat-the-finale glitch because those would end the "fast money" aspect of PacStandard and the rage and salt would overwhelm these boards.

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Gridl0k

If you are referring to me I disagree 100%.

 

Why not use a chopper or just teleport to the boat. GG cockstar.

 

Any idiot can release a game on rails that is too difficult - or just frustrating - for a non-communicating lobby of randoms. The art is in making it difficult, fun, and achievable. The Kuruma achieved that. Knowing you could steal a chopper achieved that. Removing the rails achieved that. Bear in mind the heist has 3 parts and it's only the last bit we're talking about. The robbery and alley-war are fine.

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