Pacific Standard Kuruma method patched?

[feiaschdada]

I can confirm, finale is still exploitable. You can still glitch out the police, you can still teleport via suicide on PC. Although. I'm pretty sure it's still doable on consoles too. And of course you can replay the finale all the time you want if you're careful enough, on PC with SSD it's even easier.

So it is just most likely an accident "fix"? Funny how most of the people think that is not the case since it must have been done via tunable (and if that was possible, why not ages ago?)

 

Maybe they fixed the "no cop in free roam"-glitch and hit that thing too?

[Geisterfaust]

I can confirm, finale is still exploitable. You can still glitch out the police, you can still teleport via suicide on PC. Although. I'm pretty sure it's still doable on consoles too. And of course you can replay the finale all the time you want if you're careful enough, on PC it's even easier.

[JuniorChubb]

I guess this pertains to the phrase "This is why we can't have nice things".

 

Thank you Rockstar, you corporate shysters. How little joy you bring with the DLC that is awesome for a few days, yet how much misery you burden us gamers with.

I think you misunderstand the meaning of the phrase...

 

We cannot have nice things because we break/ruin/misuse them, using that phrase implies you understand why the method was patched but your post implies the opposite of that.

 

 

 

 

Rockstar only patched this so people would buy more shark cards.

Is that a fact or one of those "alternative" facts?

 

It's made up nonsense. If Rockstar cared about shark cards that much it would have been patched 1 week after they learned of it.

 

R* do care about Shark Cards and so should we, they are giving us Free DLC while funded by those who chose to continue to buy GTA$ with real money, for some reason though many will continue to slag them off and mock those who buy them.

 

I fully agree with you in this case, the tuppence R* may have lost on Shark Card sales to the Kuruma method is negligible. IMO (and I will probably get sting for this) that this was fixed simply because it was how they intended the finale to be run.

 

In general there are lots of dupes/glitches/workarounds that may well be costing R* money but they do not all get fixed in a particular order, its a complex game with a hell of a lot bolted on to it. They fix what they can when they can and we can only second guess how they prioritise staff and resources.

 

The replay Finale thing though... now that is a different kettle of fish.

Edited January 30, 2017 by JuniorChubb

[Wurmy]

It's quite entertaining reading this topic. Everything what makes GTAF special in one place, huge amounts of salt, insults, name calling, people on high horses and so on.

 

Anyway OT:

I don't understand people saying the best money making method is ruined with this change. R* gave you enough ways since the heist update to make money, but most people would rather grind pac 100 times then look for other ways which are more entertaining and less dull then doing pac for 100. time.

Sure it was easy, but selling top range cars is easy too, doing MC missions which have double money is even easier. Alternating between car sales and vip work nets you even more money than pac.

So for the love of god stop complaining about it or saying it's the end of the world.

Just learn how to use the bikes if you wanna do pac, or steal a cop car or get the helicopter at the yacht harbour to spawn or take jetskies. The finale is not that hard and you don't even lose much money if you don't be an idiot.

[Rashkovskys Shiv]

It's quite entertaining reading this topic. Everything what makes GTAF special in one place, huge amounts of salt, insults, name calling, people on high horses and so on.

 

Anyway OT:

I don't understand people saying the best money making method is ruined with this change. R* gave you enough ways since the heist update to make money, but most people would rather grind pac 100 times then look for other ways which are more entertaining and less dull then doing pac for 100. time.

Sure it was easy, but selling top range cars is easy too, doing MC missions which have double money is even easier. Alternating between car sales and vip work nets you even more money than pac.

So for the love of god stop complaining about it or saying it's the end of the world.

Just learn how to use the bikes if you wanna do pac, or steal a cop car or get the helicopter at the yacht harbour to spawn or take jetskies. The finale is not that hard and you don't even lose much money if you don't be an idiot.

It is the easiest and quickest way to make money if played on Hard with good players

If you join a finale,on default 15% it's $187k to be made in less than 15 minutes, if the host gives you 20% which I always do... You make $250k in 15 minutes.

If you can get in 4 finals in one day, (which is if you leave your own pace heist open.. and get mostly packed standard invites)you can make a million in a day easy.

 

The apartment kept you from losing money even if you had low level randoms.

Now it will be impossible to beat with randoms I know this because I have probably done more of this finale than most people have done all heists put together.

Getting the helicopter to spawn at the bay is tedious,and you will lose money and most randoms don't have the patience.

Edited January 30, 2017 by Rashkovskys Shiv

[Rammer2k]

Wonder why they would wait this long to finally patch it, considering Heists have been out for almost 2 years now. Unless they've been trying since the beginning, and finally got it without breaking the mission. Either way, sucks for those who haven't done CMM yet. Using the bikes isn't bad if you know where you're going,and have the Heavy Vest on.

 

I wonder if that means you can't access the Garage during regular missions too since I like to farm the blue Sandkings, or even Gold Dubsta 2's?....hmmmmmmmmm

[Wurmy]

 

 

 

It's quite entertaining reading this topic. Everything what makes GTAF special in one place, huge amounts of salt, insults, name calling, people on high horses and so on.

Anyway OT:
I don't understand people saying the best money making method is ruined with this change. R* gave you enough ways since the heist update to make money, but most people would rather grind pac 100 times then look for other ways which are more entertaining and less dull then doing pac for 100. time.
Sure it was easy, but selling top range cars is easy too, doing MC missions which have double money is even easier. Alternating between car sales and vip work nets you even more money than pac.
So for the love of god stop complaining about it or saying it's the end of the world.
Just learn how to use the bikes if you wanna do pac, or steal a cop car or get the helicopter at the yacht harbour to spawn or take jetskies. The finale is not that hard and you don't even lose much money if you don't be an idiot.

It is the easiest and quickest way to make money if played on Hard with good players
If you join a finale,on default 15% it's $187k to be made in less than 15 minutes, if the host gives you 20% which I always do... You make $250k in 15 minutes.
If you can get in 4 finals in one day, (which is if you leave your own pace heist open.. and get mostly packed standard invites)you can make a million in a day easy.

The apartment kept you from losing money even if you had low level randoms.
Now it will be impossible to beat with randoms I know this because I have probably done more of this finale than most people have done all heists put together.
Getting the helicopter to spawn at the bay is tedious,and you will lose money and most randoms don't have the patience.

 

 

 

 

Oh yeah joining random pacific standard finals, yeah that works sooooo f*cking great and of course you will never ever fail a single one.

[Irish45455]

Four Pac Standard finales at 20% each or ten top range car exports plus Headhunter and Hostile Takeover/Sightseer and sourcing in one day... You can make money with exporting. It's a grind for sure, but what isn't these days? I feel for you, I really do, patching something that wasn't even a glitch or exploit and merely an alternative way to do things is idiocy. But there are other ways to make money, like someone stated above me. Is it a pain? Yes. Is it boresome? Well, of course. But without bad times, you can't appreciate the good times.

[We Are Ninja]

We don't know if this was an exploit or not, first of all. Rockstar has never officially commented on it that I know of. But you can't call your mechanic during any heist. That's an indication that maybe they wanted a limitation on accessing any personal vehicle, and the garage thing could have been an oversight...

That, and the fact that they take our PV's from us the moment the heist starts, then they literally funnel us to the bikes that they had us steal prior... The very bikes that Lester told us we'd need to complete the heist...

 

People can argue all day; it's very obvious how R* intended the heists to be completed.

[Rockstar_Fanboy]

 

After looping this off and on for years, and banking big bucks, the patching of this really won't effect me. It's ironic, but my group was just saying last night, let's do this with the bikes, it's become too boring with the Kuruma.

 

But this is my fairness problem with it: Rock Star prices the in game stuff at a certain price. Decisions to buy or not buy something include many variables, one of which is the usefulness of an item. Me, I personally purchased a number of Kurumas (in case one gets blown up it's nice to have a back up) and that apartment BECAUSE this was permitted (and for all the people saying, this wasn't what Rock Star intended, you are supposed to ride the bikes, you are missing the point. Rock Star allowed you to do it. By closing off access to the garages now, Rock Star is proving they could have done this when the Heists launched. They chose not to). So the unfairness comes in charging you X amount of dollars for items based on what you believed you could use them for--after spending said money, they alter the use of those items.

 

I guess Rock Star will offer us a full refund for the Kuruma and that apartment building. If someone could kindly point in the direction to claim this full refund, I would appreciate it.

 

C'mon man. You almost certainly made that money back many times over, if you've played the heist enough to get bored with the method. That apartment is dirt cheap and the Kuruma doesn't cost that much either. And if you bought "a number" of them, that's just you pissing away money, which isn't Rockstar's fault. You only ever needed to remember to call Mors Mutual. Worst case scenario, you buy two (one as a backup) and leave it at that. But even if you filled that entire garage with six Kurumas, I'm guessing your easy profits and perfect takes made up the difference. You're gonna be fine. The car itself is still immensely useful in other heists and setup missions, almost all contact missions, and even free roam (unless you come near me - then your ass is going to explode, but that's another story).

 

 

Let me start this by saying I agree with everything that you wrote. It's all beside the point (and you know it, which is why you started with "c'mon man, which is code for, I can't address your actual point, but I can offer you this).

 

Let me give you another example to underscore my point (sort of based on real life events with your response worked in there): Let's say you bought a PS3 because one of the biggest selling features is that it was backwards compatible with the PS2. You play the sh*t out of PS2 games for about 3 years. Soon we find out that the PS3 is having some overheating issues, and Sony tells you that one of the problems is that it is overheating because of the backwards compatibility issue (this is what they eventually told me). They start making new machines that are no longer backwards compatible. When my machine breaks, I send it back in, and they send me a new machine that isn't backwards compatible. I complain, telling them that I bought this is large part because it was backwards compatible, playing those games a ton. Their response is, "comon man, you got your moneys worth." Make you feel better? Sound like a good response to you?

 

This is not how consumers buy things and tend to get upset when the terms change AFTER you bought the product. It would be one thing if all we were talking about was fake digital dollars that were wholly earned in-game. It would still be wrong, but hard to get worked up over. What really has me irked is that people are putting real money into the system to get fake money, then trying to decide what in game items to buy with real money. Though this wasn't my case, think of someone who about a month ago bought a shark card so they could specifically buy a Kuruma for heisting, and almost immeditately after the purchase Rock Star just decides it can't be used in that fashion (I did buy a few shark cards early on, and the Kuruma was one of my purchases BTW). That seem fair to you?

 

The only reason for doing this is so Rock Star can make it more difficult for you to earn in game money so people will get frustrated and buy Shark Cards. They could have programmed this from the start so you couldn't enter your place, but chose not to, instead patching this some 2 years later. It's wrong for them to let people buy in game stuff for an express purpose, then change the use of that item later, because it suits them, knowing some are using real money to buy these items. If Rock Star wanted to be fair, they would have offered a full refund to people who bought a Kuruma solely for something they ALLOWED, but for which the Kuruma can no longer be used. I would like a response to my ACTUAL post (or you can say nothing at all).

[Rashkovskys Shiv]

 

We don't know if this was an exploit or not, first of all. Rockstar has never officially commented on it that I know of. But you can't call your mechanic during any heist. That's an indication that maybe they wanted a limitation on accessing any personal vehicle, and the garage thing could have been an oversight...

That, and the fact that they take our PV's from us the moment the heist starts, then they literally funnel us to the bikes that they had us steal prior... The very bikes that Lester told us we'd need to complete the heist...

 

People can argue all day; it's very obvious how R* intended the heists to be completed.

Yeah

Just like you can use a bike to get into the Humane labs finale and Use a Kuruma in the prison break finale.

What a genius?

[Rashkovskys Shiv]

 

We don't know if this was an exploit or not, first of all. Rockstar has never officially commented on it that I know of. But you can't call your mechanic during any heist. That's an indication that maybe they wanted a limitation on accessing any personal vehicle, and the garage thing could have been an oversight...

That, and the fact that they take our PV's from us the moment the heist starts, then they literally funnel us to the bikes that they had us steal prior... The very bikes that Lester told us we'd need to complete the heist...

 

People can argue all day; it's very obvious how R* intended the heists to be completed.

Yeah, like taking a bike into the Humane labs finale or Kuruma into the Prison break finale.

Gasp,I wish I could be a good player!

[OfficialTwiggz]

 

 

After looping this off and on for years, and banking big bucks, the patching of this really won't effect me. It's ironic, but my group was just saying last night, let's do this with the bikes, it's become too boring with the Kuruma.

 

But this is my fairness problem with it: Rock Star prices the in game stuff at a certain price. Decisions to buy or not buy something include many variables, one of which is the usefulness of an item. Me, I personally purchased a number of Kurumas (in case one gets blown up it's nice to have a back up) and that apartment BECAUSE this was permitted (and for all the people saying, this wasn't what Rock Star intended, you are supposed to ride the bikes, you are missing the point. Rock Star allowed you to do it. By closing off access to the garages now, Rock Star is proving they could have done this when the Heists launched. They chose not to). So the unfairness comes in charging you X amount of dollars for items based on what you believed you could use them for--after spending said money, they alter the use of those items.

 

I guess Rock Star will offer us a full refund for the Kuruma and that apartment building. If someone could kindly point in the direction to claim this full refund, I would appreciate it.

C'mon man. You almost certainly made that money back many times over, if you've played the heist enough to get bored with the method. That apartment is dirt cheap and the Kuruma doesn't cost that much either. And if you bought "a number" of them, that's just you pissing away money, which isn't Rockstar's fault. You only ever needed to remember to call Mors Mutual. Worst case scenario, you buy two (one as a backup) and leave it at that. But even if you filled that entire garage with six Kurumas, I'm guessing your easy profits and perfect takes made up the difference. You're gonna be fine. The car itself is still immensely useful in other heists and setup missions, almost all contact missions, and even free roam (unless you come near me - then your ass is going to explode, but that's another story).

 

Let me give you another example to underscore my point (sort of based on real life events with your response worked in there): Let's say you bought a PS3 because one of the biggest selling features is that it was backwards compatible with the PS2. You play the sh*t out of PS2 games for about 3 years. Soon we find out that the PS3 is having some overheating issues, and Sony tells you that one of the problems is that it is overheating because of the backwards compatibility issue (this is what they eventually told me). They start making new machines that are no longer backwards compatible. When my machine breaks, I send it back in, and they send me a new machine that isn't backwards compatible. I complain, telling them that I bought this is large part because it was backwards compatible, playing those games a ton. Their response is, "comon man, you got your moneys worth." Make you feel better? Sound like a good response to you?

This is where you are wrong.

 

*You bought said system. System overheats.

*They say it's because of backwards compatibily.

*They replace your system (for free I presume)

*With non backwards compatible system.

 

You're too dense to realize that they're not going to keep on giving you a system that is backwards compatible, because every other week or month, you're going to run into the same issue over and over again. They pay for postage (I presume again), and you pay nothing.

 

Buy a cheap PS2 and play your games on that, or upgrade.

I bought a PS2 and 11 games for $35 a few months ago.

 

ANYWAY, we're getting off topic.

 

Nobody forced you to pay for the apartment. Nobody forced you to buy one, let alone six kurumas. That was your doing. You are not owed anything in return. This method is patched (for the time being) because it is not how Rockstar intended you to complete the heist. Point blank.

 

What would have been funny is if you got all the way to the jump point near the military base with the kuruma and it told you to collect the bikes with two minutes left.

[Nerfgoth]

 

 

We don't know if this was an exploit or not, first of all. Rockstar has never officially commented on it that I know of. But you can't call your mechanic during any heist. That's an indication that maybe they wanted a limitation on accessing any personal vehicle, and the garage thing could have been an oversight...

That, and the fact that they take our PV's from us the moment the heist starts, then they literally funnel us to the bikes that they had us steal prior... The very bikes that Lester told us we'd need to complete the heist...

 

People can argue all day; it's very obvious how R* intended the heists to be completed.

Yeah, like taking a bike into the Humane labs finale or Kuruma into the Prison break finale.

Gasp,I wish I could be a good player!

The kuruma in pb is great to not get any damage on raskowsky while exiting the prison when doing the challenge

[georgedoesitbest]

 

 

 

After looping this off and on for years, and banking big bucks, the patching of this really won't effect me. It's ironic, but my group was just saying last night, let's do this with the bikes, it's become too boring with the Kuruma.

 

But this is my fairness problem with it: Rock Star prices the in game stuff at a certain price. Decisions to buy or not buy something include many variables, one of which is the usefulness of an item. Me, I personally purchased a number of Kurumas (in case one gets blown up it's nice to have a back up) and that apartment BECAUSE this was permitted (and for all the people saying, this wasn't what Rock Star intended, you are supposed to ride the bikes, you are missing the point. Rock Star allowed you to do it. By closing off access to the garages now, Rock Star is proving they could have done this when the Heists launched. They chose not to). So the unfairness comes in charging you X amount of dollars for items based on what you believed you could use them for--after spending said money, they alter the use of those items.

 

I guess Rock Star will offer us a full refund for the Kuruma and that apartment building. If someone could kindly point in the direction to claim this full refund, I would appreciate it.

C'mon man. You almost certainly made that money back many times over, if you've played the heist enough to get bored with the method. That apartment is dirt cheap and the Kuruma doesn't cost that much either. And if you bought "a number" of them, that's just you pissing away money, which isn't Rockstar's fault. You only ever needed to remember to call Mors Mutual. Worst case scenario, you buy two (one as a backup) and leave it at that. But even if you filled that entire garage with six Kurumas, I'm guessing your easy profits and perfect takes made up the difference. You're gonna be fine. The car itself is still immensely useful in other heists and setup missions, almost all contact missions, and even free roam (unless you come near me - then your ass is going to explode, but that's another story).

 

Let me give you another example to underscore my point (sort of based on real life events with your response worked in there): Let's say you bought a PS3 because one of the biggest selling features is that it was backwards compatible with the PS2. You play the sh*t out of PS2 games for about 3 years. Soon we find out that the PS3 is having some overheating issues, and Sony tells you that one of the problems is that it is overheating because of the backwards compatibility issue (this is what they eventually told me). They start making new machines that are no longer backwards compatible. When my machine breaks, I send it back in, and they send me a new machine that isn't backwards compatible. I complain, telling them that I bought this is large part because it was backwards compatible, playing those games a ton. Their response is, "comon man, you got your moneys worth." Make you feel better? Sound like a good response to you?

This is where you are wrong.

 

*You bought said system. System overheats.

*They say it's because of backwards compatibily.

*They replace your system (for free I presume)

*With non backwards compatible system.

 

You're too dense to realize that they're not going to keep on giving you a system that is backwards compatible, because every other week or month, you're going to run into the same issue over and over again. They pay for postage (I presume again), and you pay nothing.

 

Buy a cheap PS2 and play your games on that, or upgrade.

I bought a PS2 and 11 games for $35 a few months ago.

 

ANYWAY, we're getting off topic.

 

Nobody forced you to pay for the apartment. Nobody forced you to buy one, let alone six kurumas. That was your doing. You are not owed anything in return. This method is patched (for the time being) because it is not how Rockstar intended you to complete the heist. Point blank.

 

What would have been funny is if you got all the way to the jump point near the military base with the kuruma and it told you to collect the bikes with two minutes left.

 

didn't take long for stupid sh*t to pop up. He doesn't want to be owed anything. He's not expecting compensation, we're expecting to be able to do it the way we want to.

 

And we blow the bikes up so no chance of that happening.

[Shaytan]

 

We don't know if this was an exploit or not, first of all. Rockstar has never officially commented on it that I know of. But you can't call your mechanic during any heist. That's an indication that maybe they wanted a limitation on accessing any personal vehicle, and the garage thing could have been an oversight...

That, and the fact that they take our PV's from us the moment the heist starts, then they literally funnel us to the bikes that they had us steal prior... The very bikes that Lester told us we'd need to complete the heist...

 

People can argue all day; it's very obvious how R* intended the heists to be completed.

 

While I think heists always have some type of out of the box thinking, I don't think it would make sense at all to believe this was intentional. The whole point of the heist is not to be an easy money maker - do you think it would make sense for the "big one" to be taht easy to do? I don't think so; while on the signal setup you can get the cloer Seasharks that only save some time or bring an helicopter to evade the cops quicker that R* never pointed the police boat to be the way to do it; or in the Prision Break finale for the pilot to fly behind the jet and never get attacked while the demo can help the prision guys - thats out-of-the-box thinking that doesn't interfer on the gameplay that much. What about taking a bulletproof car from the a garage after blowing the bikes that were part of a setup, specifically to be used as an evade vehicle?

 

People just get upset because got used to a cheap glitch as a way to make fortunes without much work (heck, I'd bet most of those complaining are the ones that usually waited inside the bank because couldn't make it to the bikes); anyone reasonable would already be expecting this day to come and know it was not an intentional feature neither an harmless one, otherwise the "is the Pac St Kuruma glitch still working?" question wouldn't pop up everytime a new DLC got released.

 

It was already expected to happen, just caught us unprepared (c'mon, if R* announced they'd patch it, everyone would grind the heist non-stop till then, don't you guys think?) - I just feel bad for everyone that hasn't done Mastermind Challenge yet.

[Barcode Gaming]

I can confirm, finale is still exploitable. You can still glitch out the police, you can still teleport via suicide on PC. Although. I'm pretty sure it's still doable on consoles too. And of course you can replay the finale all the time you want if you're careful enough, on PC with SSD it's even easier.

I can confirm it is patched on PS4

[VictorVance1239]

Why do you to go in your garage during a heist anyway? Is the Kuruma no longer accessible when choosing your vehicle before the mission starts? If so then I understand the anger.

[Receptor]

i think its pretty obvious why they waited until now, ok the kuruma method was a cheap shot they let slide, i guess they knew they could just turn off pv in heists from turnables anytime, but there was no pressure. However now people are combining that with the replay glitch.. people were making 3-4 million a day 70% cut alternating (this every 15mins http://imagizer.imageshack.us/a/img922/551/22JSsd.jpg)thats taking the piss, if u are just using kuruma then at least you have to wait ~40-50 minutes between finals to do all the setups. Now you can just replay over and over and make bank. Why would i ever consider a shark card? i expect this pushed them to take action. the change has now f*cked up match making as now im only getting noobs and no experienced players. alot of my friends stopped playing altogether or already made enough money to stop heisting.

But, r* dont seem to have a fix for the replay method, so i still made 3m saturday with the police car. Its a kick in the balls, definately made life harder, but hasnt stopped ppl who are determined. I guess they had to do something. its sucked the fun out for me because its an inconvenience and pac stan is no longer the fun version i was used to with all the different methods, routes and crazy jumps in the car.

as for 3 ppl sitting doing nothing, using the police car 3 ppl are still idle.

Next they could patch the heli on the avi mission (funny enough i was thinking about that and then when we got avi and went to the chopper, he took off in the boat alone!? 5 minns of chasing the ai to hijack the boat back lol.). or they could prevent ceo jobs in a solo session, then we're f*cked.

and for the ppl who said it should be disalowed because clearly you're not supposed to, the same goes for the heli on avi. it says get to the sea sharks and theres always 1 noob waiting on them while we clear the island and ignore the message. or clearing the compound on hack before the vans there, so what. and no i dont have a work ethic haha wtf, i dont wont be that sucker, i will always cut corners. just here for quick money so i can buy all the sh*t and f*ck off.

so, this is a big deterrent in theory, its f*cked alot of the fun by forcing you to use an already available method, and for what? a couple extra minutes to finish, and a 1-200k loss per session. You can STILL replay it. so for those who know what to do, it now seems a petty move from r*. but they did get what they wanted.

Edited January 30, 2017 by Receptor

[kenmy13999]

 

I can confirm, finale is still exploitable. You can still glitch out the police, you can still teleport via suicide on PC. Although. I'm pretty sure it's still doable on consoles too. And of course you can replay the finale all the time you want if you're careful enough, on PC with SSD it's even easier.

I can confirm it is patched on PS4What is patched on PS4?

[Geisterfaust]

 

I can confirm, finale is still exploitable. You can still glitch out the police, you can still teleport via suicide on PC. Although. I'm pretty sure it's still doable on consoles too. And of course you can replay the finale all the time you want if you're careful enough, on PC with SSD it's even easier.

I can confirm it is patched on PS4

 

What exactly is? Glitching out police or disconnecting for replay? Will try on XB1 today.

Edited January 30, 2017 by hei3enberg

[FlacidJack]

 

 

I can confirm, finale is still exploitable. You can still glitch out the police, you can still teleport via suicide on PC. Although. I'm pretty sure it's still doable on consoles too. And of course you can replay the finale all the time you want if you're careful enough, on PC with SSD it's even easier.

 

I can confirm it is patched on PS4

 

What exactly is? Glitching out police or disconnecting for replay? Will try on XB1 today.if it's the replay glitch there are multiple ways to do it so saying it's patched should only be stated if someone thoroughly tested it using all the different methods IMO, which I highly doubt anyone has done yet or they would have made a YouTube video begging for likes, subs and comments.... Right? Isn't that how gaming works these days?

[DentureDynamite]

That, and the fact that they take our PV's from us the moment the heist starts, then they literally funnel us to the bikes that they had us steal prior... The very bikes that Lester told us we'd need to complete the heist...

 

People can argue all day; it's very obvious how R* intended the heists to be completed.

 

Which completely flies in the face of open world gaming.

 

...you know, the kind of gaming that GTA Online is theoretically supposed to, uh, BE.

 

Once again, R* gets an epic fail.

 

Until R* stops treating their players like trick dogs and cracking the whip whenever we don't jump through their hoops (choosing instead to make our own game play decisions based on intelligence), they will continue to tank on this key issue.

 

It's no wonder The Benz is no longer there; pretty clear to me he actually believed in open world gaming.

Edited January 31, 2017 by DentureDynamite

[Barcode Gaming]

if it's the replay glitch there are multiple ways to do it so saying it's patched should only be stated if someone thoroughly tested it using all the different methods IMO, which I highly doubt anyone has done yet or they would have made a YouTube video begging for likes, subs and comments.... Right? Isn't that how gaming works these days?

For the police I don't know how to do that glitch so I have no idea but for the replay glitch I only know the method where you close the application (I play on PS4).

If you know any other method, feel free to share and I will happily try them out.

Edited January 30, 2017 by The Barcode

[VictorVance1239]

Rockstar crazy

Edited January 30, 2017 by VictorVince1239

[Semaj 2JZ♢]

 

We don't know if this was an exploit or not, first of all. Rockstar has never officially commented on it that I know of. But you can't call your mechanic during any heist. That's an indication that maybe they wanted a limitation on accessing any personal vehicle, and the garage thing could have been an oversight...

That, and the fact that they take our PV's from us the moment the heist starts, then they literally funnel us to the bikes that they had us steal prior... The very bikes that Lester told us we'd need to complete the heist...

 

People can argue all day; it's very obvious how R* intended the heists to be completed.

If R* "intended" us to be restricted to the bikes ONLY, there would be no access to any other vehicle, at any point or time, period. The very FACT we can get off the bike(s) and get in another vehicle, and still finish, proves that without a shadow of a doubt.

 

Least not forget the fact that when people could originally access their garage and get a PV, you had to get everyone in your garage to get in. Once outside, NOBODY else could get in your car. Everyone had to get their own. Before long, that was changed. If it was truly an oversight, to not use PVs, at that point, they never would have changed to let your teammates in.

 

You cannot explain, with any logic, that it was anything other than creative genius to ditch the bikes for something else that is right there on my screen and free to occupy and operate.

[CarnageRacing00]

 

I'm furious. It's not a nightmare though. I'm angry because I know the real reason they did it. To make it harder, so players wouldn't touch it again, and retreat to the store and buy a shark card or two. Our only decent money making method was killed.

 

But honestly, it's not worth making too much of a fuss about. They've been in it for the money since the inception of GTA Online.

Pretty much this.

But, do you think we would think it was "too hard" if the Kuruma loophole never existed? I don't think so. I think we'd all be boasting about finishing the mission with the lowest amount of lost cash. just my take on it... I think we were spoiled with the Kuruma trick and had it not existed ever we would not complain as much about the mission as designed.

[ash-274]

 

 

I'm furious. It's not a nightmare though. I'm angry because I know the real reason they did it. To make it harder, so players wouldn't touch it again, and retreat to the store and buy a shark card or two. Our only decent money making method was killed.

 

But honestly, it's not worth making too much of a fuss about. They've been in it for the money since the inception of GTA Online.

Pretty much this.

But, do you think we would think it was "too hard" if the Kuruma loophole never existed? I don't think so. I think we'd all be boasting about finishing the mission with the lowest amount of lost cash. just my take on it... I think we were spoiled with the Kuruma trick and had it not existed ever we would not complain as much about the mission as designed.

 

That's my take on it. They still aren't locking you to the bikes. You can steal and use any non-PV around. You can still take any route you want.

[DarkSavageDeathlyCloud]

Let's be honest here, the pacific standard still pays way more then any other heist and is still the best method to earn cash if all people involved care about near equal payout in this game.

 

I rather see rockstar patching things like that then see the overall payout nerfed or something stupid like that.

[kenmy13999]

 

if it's the replay glitch there are multiple ways to do it so saying it's patched should only be stated if someone thoroughly tested it using all the different methods IMO, which I highly doubt anyone has done yet or they would have made a YouTube video begging for likes, subs and comments.... Right? Isn't that how gaming works these days?

For the police I don't know how to do that glitch so I have no idea but for the replay glitch I only know the method where you close the application (I play on PS4).

If you know any other method, feel free to share and I will happily try them out.

You're not timing it right, it's not patched