Pacific Standard Kuruma method patched?

[mmm chocolate]

 

i used to get hyped being the driver and taking the offroad/train tracks route.

 

but now I think people rely on the Kuruma too much. I'm glad they patched it.

 

also, the final jump to the dinghy is obviously supposed to be done from a motorcycle.

Question: Why are you glad that they patched it?

I mean you were not forced to use the kuruma.

 

 

because you'd get in a game with randoms and they'd blow up the bikes. (not everyone wants to be a passenger ffs)

 

and using the kuruma method takes up too much time. can't count how many times restarting from bikes because someone didnt make it to the dinghy in time, either not making it out of the car properly for the parachute jump or something else holding them back.

[MeatSafeMurderer]

 

lol...an "exploit". There was no exploiting involved...it let you walk right on in.

Bottom line, Rockstar decided to sh*t on their playerbase yet again.

Just because you could walk right in doesnt mean it was intentional from the start. Clearly an oversight on R*s part & they closed it. Who cares how long its taken, its their prerogative. So many people tired of being 'sh*t on again' yet here they are, still playing, & stil complaining.

 

You're kidding right? That's been known for f*cking yonks... It's not like they have been busy with other bugs and glitches, they rarely ever fix anything, why did they not fix it until now? If they want you to get on the bikes so bad why have they not locked you to them? Why does the mission not end after one gets destroyed? Why can you still get in a car and drive there? I'll tell you why...the Kuruma was armored...it wasn't about you getting in a car...it was about you getting in the Kuruma specifically. It protects you and allows you get 100% of the payout without cheating or being extremely lucky. It doesn't fit with their plan to make earning cash as hard as possible. Playing PacStan with randoms (as 99% of the playerbase generally does) is now nigh-on impossible. THAT...is why they did it. Why they didn't do it sooner...now that I can't tell you.

Edited January 29, 2017 by MeatSafeMurderer

[Xiled]

Why didn't they fix gta iv on pc for 5 years than 2 months ago they updated it? Also they nerfed payouts on missions because they were easy had a good payout and took no longer than 4 minutes for most of them. And there were no glitches used you simply played them as normal, it but they still nerfed it. And this was before the armored kuruma was usable in missions. Ever since they "fixed" missions a lot more people starting using glitches, bugs, and exploits for almost all of the new updates like Heists,VIP,CEO,MC,I/E. Just because you can do something in heists doesn't mean that they can't "remove" "fix" them. Like right now people are already saying how to get around this. Great Idea show them how to fix it before a new update is out. I'm only guessing that in the next update there gonna change more things in the heists that require a change in the code. They have remade missions like rooftop rumple and coveted in the past that got scripted differently basically becoming a different mission. Pacific standard all the things people use to do them faster might get changed as well. You will be lucky if this is all they do to the heist.

[FlacidJack]

 

It's called "Bragging rights". To let others know they are better than others.

 

Either way, it was never an exploit. The game GAVE you and LET you to enter your garage and pull out any personal vehicle aside Kuruma.

Wrong. Your goal, in Rockstars eyes, was to hop on the bikes, and follow the designated GPS system.

Again, you (and other players, MYSELF INCLUDED) found an exploit, (a loophole) in the system Rockstar had put in place, that lets you enter garages during that heist mission. Maybe Rockstar had faith in the community that they would actually do right and follow such simple directions. Clearly that wasn't the case, and now "you cannot enter the garage at this time" appears.

It was an exploit. You were not allowed, errr "not supposed" to do such thing.

Now does Rockstar play fairly when it comes to patching harmless exploits? Nah, not really. There's plenty of harmless exploits that players do one week and are patched the next. This was creating a way for players to A) not die, and B) not lose money.

Again, and this goes for anybody counteracting what I'm saying, don't gang up on me for stating facts. I haven't patched sh*t. I can see where they are coming from. They are a business, and at the end of the day, they are in it for the almighty dollar. If somebody isn't losing money on a heist, it's too easy for them to make money, thus must be patched.

imo you're right about the money aspect but I still don't understand how entering your owned property when not in sight of cops is a loophole, that's how the wanted level works all the time (until now).

Imo buying the apartment and Kuruma was a way to show you planned the heist prior to readying up, like making a heist outfit with a heavy utility vest ..actually, more similar to how it's done in single player when we stash a getaway vehicle of our choice.

 

Either way I'm not worried since I can still complete the heist, I just find it odd that other players claim entering your own apartment with stars is some kinda glitch even though we can do that any time we're not directly spotted by police... Just like in freeroam, missions, etc.

[pptz84]

18 pages of people crying over a method that was never intended to be used being patched?

 

Come on, I must have hit PS 100 times, if not more, never using the Kuruma. Yes, we lost money but it was a matter of thousands, not tens or hundreds of thousands.

 

Anyone would think that the heist is impossible without the use of the noob shell - believe me it isn't. If you made it to the finale of pacific standard you can easily finish the finale. You will have made it through the entire PB heist, you didn't need a kuruma in the prison! You got through Humane Labs, Series A, you got shot at, you survived. Pacific Standard finale isn't any harder than the previous heists (I'd say it's much easier than PB to be honest).

 

You have two options now. You either accept you can't use the noob shell and do it the way Rockstar want you to do it or you don't play that heist.

 

I agree it's not that hard to do the heist on the bikes.

 

However, if you play with people that can't ride a bike, you still have a safe option: just get a NOOSE-van, and 'drive'- oh my, that thing is slow... - straight to the Dingy. (Don't try to get that thing up the mountain ;-))

[FaultyDroid]

 

 

lol...an "exploit". There was no exploiting involved...it let you walk right on in.

Bottom line, Rockstar decided to sh*t on their playerbase yet again.

Just because you could walk right in doesnt mean it was intentional from the start. Clearly an oversight on R*s part & they closed it. Who cares how long its taken, its their prerogative. So many people tired of being 'sh*t on again' yet here they are, still playing, & stil complaining.

 

You're kidding right? That's been known for f*cking yonks... It's not like they have been busy with other bugs and glitches, they rarely ever fix anything, why did they not fix it until now? If they want you to get on the bikes so bad why have they not locked you to them? Why does the mission not end after one gets destroyed? Why can you still get in a car and drive there? I'll tell you why...the Kuruma was armored...it wasn't about you getting in a car...it was about you getting in the Kuruma specifically. It protects you and allows you get 100% of the payout without cheating or being extremely lucky. It doesn't fit with their plan to make earning cash as hard as possible. Playing PacStan with randoms (as 99% of the playerbase generally does) is now nigh-on impossible. THAT...is why they did it. Why they didn't do it sooner...now that I can't tell you.

 

 

I re-read my post, and still did'nt see anything there about you being meant to take the bikes. Of course its about taking an armored foolproof car, doesn't take Einstein to work that out. Entertaining little rant, though. Have a like

[D9fred95]

GTA V's been out for 4 years. Only now do they bother patching anything and said thing was a loophole, not a glitch. A loophole not even everyone used since I never experienced it and I've tried the heist several times (and failed several more since the LSPD went to Leeroy Jenkin's driving school).

 

If R* is this hellbent on messing with the game in ways such as this after all this time I can't wait to see what nonsense RDR 2's multiplayer has planned.

[Xiled]

The reason you lose money when shot is to get a lower payout at the end. Why else would you only lose money in this heist that is the best paying out heist? Why would they want you to take the bikes. Why can't you call and get a car delivered from the mechanic when your car gets destroyed? Why can't you use pegasus vehicles? Obviously they want you to lose money so they disabled use of the car that you are basically bulletproof in. They even said personal vehicles like the kuruma in the official reply. lol

[BlackMilk]

 

 

i used to get hyped being the driver and taking the offroad/train tracks route.

 

but now I think people rely on the Kuruma too much. I'm glad they patched it.

 

also, the final jump to the dinghy is obviously supposed to be done from a motorcycle.

Question: Why are you glad that they patched it?

I mean you were not forced to use the kuruma.

 

 

because you'd get in a game with randoms and they'd blow up the bikes. (not everyone wants to be a passenger ffs)

 

and using the kuruma method takes up too much time. can't count how many times restarting from bikes because someone didnt make it to the dinghy in time, either not making it out of the car properly for the parachute jump or something else holding them back.

 

Wait, what? Not making it out of the car properly for the parachute jump?

Please tell me if I'm misunderstanding, but were you actually using the car to go to the mountain checkpoint and getting OUT of the car either before or during the jump to parachute down individually?

 

If so, please know this: you don't have to. You can avoid all potential deaths there by staying inside the car and driving it down. You still lose all police attention and can simply walk into the river to get to the boat. Jumping out of the car in mid-air is not recommended. I'm assuming you meant in mid-air because it's hardly difficult to get out of any car "properly" when it's stationary.

[DarkSavageDeathlyCloud]

The reason you lose money when shot is to get a lower payout at the end. Why else would you only lose money in this heist that is the best paying out heist? Why would they want you to take the bikes. Why can't you call and get a car delivered from the mechanic when your car gets destroyed? Why can't you use pegasus vehicles? Obviously they want you to lose money so they disabled use of the car that you are basically bulletproof in. They even said personal vehicles like the kuruma in the official reply. lol

Indeed, unless you got 4 skilled players you generally will lose cash.

[MillerTyme]

 

18 pages of people crying over a method that was never intended to be used being patched?

 

Come on, I must have hit PS 100 times, if not more, never using the Kuruma. Yes, we lost money but it was a matter of thousands, not tens or hundreds of thousands.

 

Anyone would think that the heist is impossible without the use of the noob shell - believe me it isn't. If you made it to the finale of pacific standard you can easily finish the finale. You will have made it through the entire PB heist, you didn't need a kuruma in the prison! You got through Humane Labs, Series A, you got shot at, you survived. Pacific Standard finale isn't any harder than the previous heists (I'd say it's much easier than PB to be honest).

 

You have two options now. You either accept you can't use the noob shell and do it the way Rockstar want you to do it or you don't play that heist.

 

I agree it's not that hard to do the heist on the bikes.

 

However, if you play with people that can't ride a bike, you still have a safe option: just get a NOOSE-van, and 'drive'- oh my, that thing is slow... - straight to the Dingy. (Don't try to get that thing up the mountain ;-))

 

^^^^ exactly, and yea dont try to take it up the middle shortcut or east coast, going up the mountain is stupid slow and will push the time in the end..since both ways end at the mountain you just have to sacrifice a little money and go up the west coast! no hills, will have time to spare even if you crash a few times, just have the cops by the boat this way of course.. just have money guy stay in armored truck until you clear the area around the boat at least to minimize loss since you cant fully get rid of them all .. its a lot better than risking the time going up any kind of hill at all and redoing the drive all over again.. and remember your grinding it, dont need a perfect take every time ya OCD S.O.B.'s!!

[M.K.N.]

Well, we all know this was gonna happen. But one question remains; why didn't R* do this sooner? Were they too drunk to realize this while they were adding more pointless Adversary Modes?

[Barcode Gaming]

Word on the street is they also patched the finale glitch where you quit at the end and don't need to do the setups again. It worked this morning but apparently it's patched now.

[Saucey_boi]

Word on the street is they also patched the finale glitch where you quit at the end and don't need to do the setups again. It worked this morning but apparently it's patched now.

Yes, both things have been patched.

[Khephera]

Word on the street is they also patched the finale glitch where you quit at the end and don't need to do the setups again. It worked this morning but apparently it's patched now.

Definitely not patched on PC. Just did it three times an hour ago.

[Barcode Gaming]

Definitely not patched on PC. Just did it three times an hour ago.

Been patched on PS4, I timed it right, 3 people in first cutscene and the lady after white screen, still lost it. Give it a few hours and it'll be patched on PC too I'm pretty sure.

[kenmy13999]

 

Definitely not patched on PC. Just did it three times an hour ago.

Been patched on PS4, I timed it right, 3 people in first cutscene and the lady after white screen, still lost it. Give it a few hours and it'll be patched on PC too I'm pretty sure.That have happened to people for a long time if they don't quit at the right time

[Switch]

 

Word on the street is they also patched the finale glitch where you quit at the end and don't need to do the setups again. It worked this morning but apparently it's patched now.

Definitely not patched on PC. Just did it three times an hour ago.

 

Rockstar logic always makes me confused. Hopefully it's just because they can't patch it, because why would they not patch this too since they clearly are against these sort of things.

Edited January 29, 2017 by Switch

[nm69]

There is a camera in the first room if the bank where you put your mask on. I guess in the end lester pays the cops of. What's the 1000$ to bribe 2000 cops?

 

Stop thinking realistic, it's a game.

 

Was replying to a reply to somebody saying taking your PV to the boat would leave a trail for the cops who would find an abandoned PV with personalized license plate near the last location they saw you go.

[D9fred95]

 

There is a camera in the first room if the bank where you put your mask on. I guess in the end lester pays the cops of. What's the 1000$ to bribe 2000 cops?

 

Stop thinking realistic, it's a game.

 

Was replying to a reply to somebody saying taking your PV to the boat would leave a trail for the cops who would find an abandoned PV with personalized license plate near the last location they saw you go.

 

Because it's not like there's plenty of instances in Online where you anger cops and leave your car behind.

 

Seriously, why are we trying to apply realism to Online? Realism that only exists to give us hassle.

[MillerTyme]

 

Definitely not patched on PC. Just did it three times an hour ago.

Been patched on PS4, I timed it right, 3 people in first cutscene and the lady after white screen, still lost it. Give it a few hours and it'll be patched on PC too I'm pretty sure.

 

I've done it recently as well, and im on xbox one, and yes kenmy is right thats been going on for awhile now, dont say its "official" until you've tried it again.. me and my buddy would do this all the time, and sometimes everything went perfectly no fourth person with lester.. 3 ppl on leaderboard..chick on the bridge.. and still lose it sometimes it would be after doing it 10 times sometimes after 2 times of doing it.. its always been a shot it still wont work.. not patched tho bro..

[Mr. Larson]

People who are physically and mentally able to do this f*cking heist are just noobs. I remember back then when they introduced the CE error on PS4 whenever you had a PV out and did not take all the checkpoints. I hated every retarted Kuruma driver. Now, almost 2 years after Heists came out, people still talk about Noose Vans, Helicopters or...the bikes. Take a f*cking copcar! Or, be smart, don't play heists at all. If you are desperate for money. Source a top range car -> sell it -> reset your cooldown -> source a top range car -> sell it again. Payout is similar to PS and no, robbing the same stupid bank over and over and over again is certainly no fun. It was fun back in March 2015, but now? Get over it. Heists are as dead as contact missions. And if you are really so desperate, there is a solo dupe glitch.

 

Heists were f*cking boring back in Summer 2015, we just did them because there was nothing else to do.

[OfficialTwiggz]

People who are physically and mentally able to do this f*cking heist are just noobs. I remember back then when they introduced the CE error on PS4 whenever you had a PV out and did not take all the checkpoints. I hated every retarted Kuruma driver. Now, almost 2 years after Heists came out, people still talk about Noose Vans, Helicopters or...the bikes. Take a f*cking copcar! Or, be smart, don't play heists at all. If you are desperate for money. Source a top range car -> sell it -> reset your cooldown -> source a top range car -> sell it again. Payout is similar to PS and no, robbing the same stupid bank over and over and over again is certainly no fun. It was fun back in March 2015, but now? Get over it. Heists are as dead as contact missions. And if you are really so desperate, there is a solo dupe glitch.

 

Heists were f*cking boring back in Summer 2015, we just did them because there was nothing else to do.

Holy sh*t I love you.

 

*insert clapping gif here*

[⁣V⁣]

 

 

Just wear the heavy vest outfit and search up a YouTube video of best Pac Standard bike routes. I know two main routes (with a number of small variations) that will keep you off-road for 90% of the drive and keep the police off your back. You should NEVER die during the drive unless you are comically awful on a bike, and you should only lose maybe 50K unless you crash. We've actually had a few perfect takes using these routes, on the bikes.

Yeah, I know the route. The one we've been taking with the Kuruma. But this time I'll try the train tracks.

 

 

 

http://rsg.ms/7e49efb

 

Based on V's and GTASeriesVideos' routes, I've created this simple race to help everyone familiarize with the path and the Lectro bike. You can also use the Lectro's KERS system during the race. Word of warning tho':

• This race doesn't contain any wanted levels, and there is not too much traffic to care about. Meaning that you will still need some skill during the heist to avoid sudden obstacles like cop cars, roadblocks, and NPC's.
• As mentioned in GTASeriesVideos' walkthrough, this is the fastest route, not the safest. Especially during the final portion of the track.

Ace this route, and there is a big chance of you getting the elite challenge. Or, translation, recovering most of the lost money (kudos if you lose nothing and still get the extra 100k)

 

 

Now, my opinion.

 

I've only done this heist once. Yes, only once. Back during the 2x money Heists week. So, yeah, I can't give specific tips for the mission. However, I can assure that you don't need Kurumas or even Heavy Combat Vests to succesfully take the Pacific Standard, as we have seen in other posts. Why not take some time to develop some skill? Playing other contact missions, or the long-forgotten Survivals, can really help you minimize errors during shootouts. Practice, and you will no longer need these "props" to win.

 

Yes, maybe R* did a bad move removing this method. It's sad? Yes, for some. But c'mon, this isn't so bad. This is the moment where the noobs will filter themselves. There will be those that will not quit the game, but instead, improve their skills, get some experience, etc.

 

And those are the players we need in our lobbies.

 

 

That's a great idea. But since I'm not on xbox I can't test it out, so I re-created it on PC with some slight modifications:

 

http://rsg.ms/2560e26

 

The biggest one being exiting the train tracks and entering the dirt road:

 

 

I also put some some props near the spots you need to slow down.

Edited January 30, 2017 by --V--

[doomsday2004]

This crazy, I found this out from MrBoss FTW. So, I play the heist to see for myself. It did say something, I can get access to the apartment or the garage. It did say nothing about cops, I just can not get in to get the Kuruma. Wow the Heist DLC came out back in 3/10/2015. It's almost 2 years old and Rockstar finally patched this. I would say, good luck playing Pacific Standard with random on the bikes or random cars off the street.

[SWI0001]

What are you guys f*cking masochists? This is a nightmare for just about the entire GTA community. People need to earn money the best way they can and now R* patches one of the only ways, and you enjoy the fact this is patched?

 

Why doesn't Rockstar just say "Hey, we've made sure you have no way of earning some proper money for buying our strategically marketed priced products so buy our shark cards, unless you want to legitimately feel like you're working for your peanuts you earn from missions? We're like Apple, we'll do whatever we like and you will still suck up to us."

 

It was a breeze and we could just do it over and over, but Rockstar doesn't like people earning real money. And I can speak on behalf of a major part of the GTA community from people's reception when playing online. Lucky are those that had mods back on PS3 to get billions.

 

Now I just seem to do those CEO missions end on end (except for that 10 minute break!) and reaching barely a mil per day.

 

I guess this pertains to the phrase "This is why we can't have nice things".

 

Thank you Rockstar, you corporate shysters. How little joy you bring with the DLC that is awesome for a few days, yet how much misery you burden us gamers with.

 

EDIT: Okay, I was rather harsh yet p'd off at how this happened. PacStandard is pretty much futile now with the no-longer foolproof method. But I found that having a crew in a biker gang (4) gets about $50,000 per clubhouse contract so that's something. At least it takes only a couple of hours (if that) to get a million instead of about 10 hours (as was when I was doing CEO work). So well done to Rockstar on that behalf, we still have to work but at least it's somewhat improved, and you don't need to wait 10 bloody minutes either, only three.

Edited January 31, 2017 by SWI0001

[Business_Cat]

There are other ways of making money. I stopped playing PAC standard so long ago for being repetitive.

[OfficialTwiggz]

What are you guys f*cking masochists? This is a nightmare for just about the entire GTA community. People need to earn money the best way they can and now R* patches one of the only ways, and you enjoy the fact this is patched?

 

Why doesn't Rockstar just say "Hey, we've made sure you have no way of earning some proper money for buying our strategically marketed priced products so buy our shark cards, unless you want to legitimately feel like you're working for your peanuts you earn from missions? We're like Apple, we'll do whatever we like and you will still suck up to us."

 

It was a breeze and we could just do it over and over, but Rockstar doesn't like people earning real money. And I can speak on behalf of a major part of the GTA community from people's reception when playing online. Lucky are those that had mods back on PS3 to get billions.

 

Now I just seem to do those CEO missions end on end (except for that 10 minute break!) and reaching barely a mil per day.

 

I guess this pertains to the phrase "This is why we can't have nice things".

 

Thank you Rockstar, you corporate shysters. How little joy you bring with the DLC that is awesome for a few days, yet how much misery you burden us gamers with.

You are so far wrong in almost every single point you've made, my god.

 

It's hilarious.

[Collibosher]

What are you guys f*cking masochists? This is a nightmare for just about the entire GTA community. People need to earn money the best way they can and now R* patches one of the only ways, and you enjoy the fact this is patched?

 

Why doesn't Rockstar just say "Hey, we've made sure you have no way of earning some proper money for buying our strategically marketed priced products so buy our shark cards, unless you want to legitimately feel like you're working for your peanuts you earn from missions? We're like Apple, we'll do whatever we like and you will still suck up to us."

 

It was a breeze and we could just do it over and over, but Rockstar doesn't like people earning real money. And I can speak on behalf of a major part of the GTA community from people's reception when playing online. Lucky are those that had mods back on PS3 to get billions.

 

Now I just seem to do those CEO missions end on end (except for that 10 minute break!) and reaching barely a mil per day.

 

I guess this pertains to the phrase "This is why we can't have nice things".

 

Thank you Rockstar, you corporate shysters. How little joy you bring with the DLC that is awesome for a few days, yet how much misery you burden us gamers with.

I'm just curious, if you can make a million per day, where do you spend all that money, if that's not enough?

Edited January 30, 2017 by Collibosher

[DarkRayquaza99]

Ah, well. It was nice and easy while it lasted. I'm not going to outright stop playing the game, because there are other methods of money making (though they require more effort), and I know it wasn't the intended way of playing the Heist, but I sure as hell enjoyed it. Farewell, old reliable friend.