Pacific Standard Kuruma method patched?

[FaultyDroid]

 

It's not "limitations"

 

They are challenges. Challenges that you must obey. Don't like it? Don't play the heist. There's plenty of other options for fun or in most cases, to make easy money. And let's be real, this glitch has been around for almost two years (maybe a little less). You've had your time to make "easy money".

 

I mean in my mind, it's really that simple.

If YOU want a challenge, go ahead and do it YOUR way but dont tell me how I have to/should do it.

 

 

Its a public forum, people are as entitled to give a response as you are entitled to complain.

 

R* could well put up a response to you saying 'dont tell us how to design our game'..

 

It's not "limitations"

 

They are challenges. Challenges that you must obey. Don't like it? Don't play the heist. There's plenty of other options for fun or in most cases, to make easy money. And let's be real, this glitch has been around for almost two years (maybe a little less). You've had your time to make "easy money".

 

I mean in my mind, it's really that simple.

If YOU want a challenge, go ahead and do it YOUR way but dont tell me how I have to/should do it.

 

 

Its a public forum, people are as entitled to give a response as you are entitled to bitch & moan.

 

Look it doesn't really bother me that it got patched. It means we gotta do it the old fashion way or find a different method but thats just my own opinion. I don't know why people get so upset over it, Keep heisting and carry on!

 

Agreed.. but sadly this is GTAF.. *activate obi-wan voice*..The entitlement is strong with this one.

[Gettin up]

Another reason not to do heists with randoms.

[Alinea]

 

 

 

I don't want to see players brought down by this change. I really don't think it should be this impactful and discouraging.

Nobody expected this patch in a million years as Rockstar fixed this completely out of the blue. I understand why you might feel down and it was never my intention to point the finger and and act like a prick.

I mean you guys know this heist like the back of your hand!

You know the getaway routes like it's second nature. You all have years of experience and that does not fade away just because you might not have equipment you want. I know you can easily steal two sports cars or a police vehicle off the street and possibly lose $7,000 if you accidentally crash into a wall or what have you. Please don't let rockstar discourage you from playing this heist as you would, f*ck that! You can't give them that satisfaction.

You'll prove them wrong by being successful beyond the patch. That could mean less shark card sales if you hold your ground on this.

Tell Rockstar "Hey! I know this heist better than you, I don't need a personal vehicle to net the same earnings.

I was being a prick earlier and I'm finished justifying myself. I realize now that's it's US vs R* regardless of how you felt about the kuruma method.

What will they patch next....

With other words, what i have been saying for a long time, it is still more then doable for this heist to be completed with a really really minor loss anyhow and only complete morons or friendless people will stop grinding it.

dont forget people with friends that dont play this game anymore as well! 99% of my huge friendlist is filled with people that hardly touch the game or dont have time, or simply dont play anymore.

 

Make new ones.

 

and the cycle repeats as usual, been doing that. lul.

 

Not to say that gta is dying, but whenever i log on, chances are that like only 1 or 2 people are online at best even though i have a large friendlist.

 

lets not forget that they could have other plans or be doing heists with others while playing gta:o as well.

Edited January 29, 2017 by Alinea

[⁣V⁣]

Another reason not to do heists with randoms.

Yup. Especially low-rank ones, or the ones without Utility Vests.

Went home with 740k. Oh, it was disgusting. The deaths. Running out of snacks. The Russians in the chatbox speaking Russian and cursing either you or the cops.

Hey, I don't speak Russian, but I know what "пизда" means.

[Khephera]

 

Another reason not to do heists with randoms.

Yup. Especially low-rank ones, or the ones without Utility Vests.

Went home with 740k. Oh, it was disgusting. The deaths. Running out of snacks. The Russians in the chatbox speaking Russian and cursing either you or the cops.

Hey, I don't speak Russian, but I know what "пизда" means.

 

Damn, I feel you. I don't even try with randoms. lol

Now the PS finale is the second heist after the PB finale that I won't play with randoms. Humane Labs and Series-A is still fine with them, though.

[burger_mike]

Just do the same thing with the swat van.

[⁣V⁣]

 

 

Another reason not to do heists with randoms.

Yup. Especially low-rank ones, or the ones without Utility Vests.

Went home with 740k. Oh, it was disgusting. The deaths. Running out of snacks. The Russians in the chatbox speaking Russian and cursing either you or the cops.

Hey, I don't speak Russian, but I know what "пизда" means.

 

Damn, I feel you. I don't even try with randoms. lol

Now the PS finale is the second heist after the PB finale that I won't play with randoms. Humane Labs and Series-A is still fine with them, though.

 

Series A is fine. But you can't even reach the finale on Humane Labs Raid. "Deliver the EMP" setup is probably the hardest mission from the heists.

And they always leave at the end. Ignore you when you suggest Trip Skip. Then you wait for them in the Insurgent while they use their supercar to drive on a dirt road in the rain.

Then they alert a guard, setup failed, repeat. Alert a guard, setup failed, repeat. etc. etc.

 

But back on topic:

I've seen some people "unhappy" with the change, and calling out the ones that don't depend on their armored car to get away from the cops and I dunno if anyone else already said this but:

Edited January 29, 2017 by --V--

[Nigel le Mong]

That must be a lot of fun to those who still have to get their CM.

[BlackMilk]

That must be a lot of fun to those who still have to get their CM.

Yep. But one of the main problems with the motorcycle method is (I think) that random players will split up and all go a different route.

Apparently the police is supposed to be much more manageable if you stick together. Then it's just a matter of going off-road when you're not confident you're going to dodge the cars and you should make it to the mountain just fine.

 

It shouldn't be a huge problem for any team who gets as far as the Pacific Standard finale with their CMC run. Especially if they can still - in case of a player death - turn off the application or system before it saves.

[update_lsc]

 

That must be a lot of fun to those who still have to get their CM.

Yep. But one of the main problems with the motorcycle method is (I think) that random players will split up and all go a different route.

Apparently the police is supposed to be much more manageable if you stick together. Then it's just a matter of going off-road when you're not confident you're going to dodge the cars and you should make it to the mountain just fine.

 

 

 

It amazes me how people know nothing about this heist. It doesn't matter if you're split up and there's 10km between each person on a bike or not. As long as it's one guy per bike, you follow the gps and you shoot only the four scripted cops, it's literally a two star wanted level.

Edited January 29, 2017 by update_lsc

[jackrobot]

Well even though I'm a bit disappointed with the change, I'm kinda looking forward to the challenge of doing it with the bikes. If I didn't have friends who knew the drill then I'd probably be bitching and moaning myself. As for this being the end of online as some have said, I doubt it very much.

 

It's only a matter of time before we all get used to a new method. lighten up people, it's only a game ffs.

[HeyitsHeatherG]

Glad me and friends managed to get the 10 mil 2 years later and right before this got fixed. We've done it on the bikes before but never for the 10 mil. people would die so wed just finish it out.

[Jimbatron]

I think a few people have mentioned that the fact you could take a car out of your own garage was probably an oversight in the first place and it does detract from the way Pac Standard was meant to be played. I kind of have some sympathy for that - it's actually quite fun to do it on the bikes but virtually no one does, albeit for very rational reasons

 

But here's the thing. Before we learnt garages were accessible and bought the nearest apartment (back when Heists first came out), when playing with randoms we use to steal a cop car and go in that - that way if you have one player who is weak on the bikes you don't lose because they're crashing all the time. That's still do-able, not the way the mission was intended, and a doddle.

 

So, what's the only real difference between that, and using a Kuruma? You get hit more times, and earn less for basically doing the same thing.

 

<cough> Delusion of more Shark Card sales <cough>

[BlackMilk]

 

 

That must be a lot of fun to those who still have to get their CM.

Yep. But one of the main problems with the motorcycle method is (I think) that random players will split up and all go a different route.

Apparently the police is supposed to be much more manageable if you stick together. Then it's just a matter of going off-road when you're not confident you're going to dodge the cars and you should make it to the mountain just fine.

 

 

 

It amazes me how people know nothing about this heist. It doesn't matter if you're split up and there's 10km between each person on a bike or not. As long as it's one guy per bike, you follow the gps and you shoot only the four scripted cops, it's literally a two star wanted level.

 

It amazes me how people refuse to make any effort to understand posts that they quote. I'll clarify for you. People have claimed that police spawns are fewer and/or that they are less agressive when the whole team sticks close together.

 

I don't know if there's any truth to that but I reckon that's something people should know about if they're using the motorcycles. Never bothered to find out because random players tend to fail anyway when they're not in a car and with any premade team it's never been an issue for me. But for some people it can make a difference and they can adjust their playstyle accordingly.

 

I've done this heist more than enough times and I know enough to get through it. Don't make assumptions just because you don't understand a post or bother to ask what the meaning of it was. As for the other players, most people know what to expect in this finale. But like many, they might not know about small details like this.

Edited January 29, 2017 by BlackMilk

[bulldog385]

I've always hated heists to begin with, We should have been able to choose, which ever way we wanted to do them. Screw that Scripted BS.. Plus why the Heck, did I Buy Peg Vehicles, why do we have Merryweather Chopper Pickup, or why do we have Merryweather Airstrikes if we cant use them on Heists? I'd love to Tank Blast those Cops on PS or Airstrike those B******s on Humane Labs or Visa Versa. It Should Be the Players Choice, Not just R*'s Choice ... That would have Made the Game Much more fun IMO ...

 

But Hey Forget Me right ... One of The Idiot Customers who Paid at least twice for Their MF'in POS Game that Cant even F'in Save Right! ...

[update_lsc]

 

 

 

That must be a lot of fun to those who still have to get their CM.

Yep. But one of the main problems with the motorcycle method is (I think) that random players will split up and all go a different route.

Apparently the police is supposed to be much more manageable if you stick together. Then it's just a matter of going off-road when you're not confident you're going to dodge the cars and you should make it to the mountain just fine.

 

 

 

It amazes me how people know nothing about this heist. It doesn't matter if you're split up and there's 10km between each person on a bike or not. As long as it's one guy per bike, you follow the gps and you shoot only the four scripted cops, it's literally a two star wanted level.

 

It amazes me how people refuse to make any effort to understand posts that they quote. I'll clarify for you. People have claimed that police spawns are fewer and/or that they are less agressive when the whole team sticks close together.

 

I don't know if there's any truth to that but I reckon that's something people should know about if they're using the motorcycles. Never bothered to find out because random players tend to fail anyway when they're not in a car and with any premade team it's never been an issue for me. But for some people it can make a difference and they can adjust their playstyle accordingly.

 

I've done this heist more than enough times and I know enough to get through it. Don't make assumptions just because you don't understand a post or bother to ask what the meaning of it was. As for the other players, most people know what to expect in this finale. But like many, they might not know about small details like this.

The first part of your response doesn't really make sense, i've told you that it doesn't matter if you're sticking together or not.

[askinnywhitedildo]

ok, so I just did the heist.

 

First time, I had my normal people, and we made it through. There's some new tricks to learn, but it's definitely still easy to pull off 90% of the time with good people.

 

Second time, we had one random. That one random ruined it.

 

So basically, this heist is still a money maker, as long as you know exactly wtf you're doing. So stop complaining, it's not that big of a deal.

[Alvarez]

From what i have seen, the blood of the hostages in Pacific Standard is now on the hands of Rockstar, since the new method requires to kill them.

[Suq Maddiq]

Well im glad i got rich on time lol,plus now i can change heist garage to 10 slot garage.All though shame im gonna miss afking while playing with friends to cook noodles or do some random bs ohh well.

[Alvarez]

Well im glad i got rich on time lol,plus now i can change heist garage to 10 slot garage.All though shame im gonna miss afking while playing with friends to cook noodles or do some random bs ohh well.

You still can, if you take the Riot.

[Mr. Larson]

I think a few people have mentioned that the fact you could take a car out of your own garage was probably an oversight in the first place and it does detract from the way Pac Standard was meant to be played. I kind of have some sympathy for that - it's actually quite fun to do it on the bikes but virtually no one does, albeit for very rational reasons

 

But here's the thing. Before we learnt garages were accessible and bought the nearest apartment (back when Heists first came out), when playing with randoms we use to steal a cop car and go in that - that way if you have one player who is weak on the bikes you don't lose because they're crashing all the time. That's still do-able, not the way the mission was intended, and a doddle.

 

So, what's the only real difference between that, and using a Kuruma? You get hit more times, and earn less for basically doing the same thing.

 

<cough> Delusion of more Shark Card sales <cough>

I guess they gave up on shark cards (DLCs). It's so easy to make lazy money nowadays. I make 1-2 mil a day and on top of it, R* keeps giving me 250k regularly. Don't bother with heists for a long time now though.

 

Back in the days I refused to use a Kuruma. What's the problem with a cop car? Heists, and especially Pac Stan, are f*cking tedious. Even arm wrestling is more exciting.

[nm69]

^Just minutes after the find of a chrome Zentorno with the "S3XY" plate at the very door of the bank that has been robbed. Nah, logic fail on that side.

Not to forget that the bank is right across from the famous Hollywood theatre on a busy intersection. Surely there are loads of cameras capturing you moving into the bank without your masks while carrying rifles. And that's also conveniently ignoring that such a big bank has no security guard/camera in the lobby inside the door to keep an eye on gun toting miscreants.

 

 

 

 

It's not "limitations"

 

They are challenges. Challenges that you must obey. Don't like it? Don't play the heist. There's plenty of other options for fun or in most cases, to make easy money. And let's be real, this glitch has been around for almost two years (maybe a little less). You've had your time to make "easy money".

 

I mean in my mind, it's really that simple.

If YOU want a challenge, go ahead and do it YOUR way but dont tell me how I have to/should do it.

 

 

Its a public forum, people are as entitled to give a response as you are entitled to complain.

 

R* could well put up a response to you saying 'dont tell us how to design our game'..

 

I seriously doubt they could considering the backlash they would recieve at the hands of future potential customers and then alienating their current ones. Wouldn't reflect well when your shares plummet out of nowhere even after you raked in 2 billion USD with the last game.

[Lonely-Martin]

FOR THOSE SAYING DELIVER EMP IS THE HARDEST HEIST... YOU ARE EITHER JUST PLAIN DAFT OR HAVE YET TO COMPLETE ALL HEISTS.

 

Now if you are stuck on this heist, add me, same name on PS4 as here. I (and many others) could get this job done in around 2 minutes, not incluing the drive to the insurgent/labs area, without a single help from anyone. Seriously! Its one of the easiest setups in the game and is such fun to whistle the Mission Impossibleor James Bond theme while leaving all the little ones trying to keep up or hidden in the insurgent by the stairs... I've been really entertained by this topic but to see you guys now crying over delivering a damn truck in silence, If you do add me for this, hard difficulty is a must!

[feiaschdada]

 

^Just minutes after the find of a chrome Zentorno with the "S3XY" plate at the very door of the bank that has been robbed. Nah, logic fail on that side.

Not to forget that the bank is right across from the famous Hollywood theatre on a busy intersection. Surely there are loads of cameras capturing you moving into the bank without your masks while carrying rifles. And that's also conveniently ignoring that such a big bank has no security guard/camera in the lobby inside the door to keep an eye on gun toting miscreants.

 

 

 

 

It's not "limitations"

 

They are challenges. Challenges that you must obey. Don't like it? Don't play the heist. There's plenty of other options for fun or in most cases, to make easy money. And let's be real, this glitch has been around for almost two years (maybe a little less). You've had your time to make "easy money".

 

I mean in my mind, it's really that simple.

If YOU want a challenge, go ahead and do it YOUR way but dont tell me how I have to/should do it.

 

Its a public forum, people are as entitled to give a response as you are entitled to complain.

 

R* could well put up a response to you saying 'dont tell us how to design our game'..

 

I seriously doubt they could considering the backlash they would recieve at the hands of future potential customers and then alienating their current ones. Wouldn't reflect well when your shares plummet out of nowhere even after you raked in 2 billion USD with the last game.

There is a camera in the first room if the bank where you put your mask on. I guess in the end lester pays the cops of. What's the 1000$ to bribe 2000 cops?

 

Stop thinking realistic, it's a game.

[ALifeOfMisery]

FOR THOSE SAYING DELIVER EMP IS THE HARDEST HEIST... YOU ARE EITHER JUST PLAIN DAFT OR HAVE YET TO COMPLETE ALL HEISTS.

 

Now if you are stuck on this heist, add me, same name on PS4 as here. I (and many others) could get this job done in around 2 minutes, not incluing the drive to the insurgent/labs area, without a single help from anyone. Seriously! Its one of the easiest setups in the game and is such fun to whistle the Mission Impossibleor James Bond theme while leaving all the little ones trying to keep up or hidden in the insurgent by the stairs... I've been really entertained by this topic but to see you guys now crying over delivering a damn truck in silence, If you do add me for this, hard difficulty is a must!

Is that a serious offer? I never host heists, played almost all as a random and unlocked almost everything. Still can't get my hands on an insurgent. If you could help me out with Humane Raid at some point I'd obviously take 0% cut and be eternally grateful.

[Twistedmindgame]

Honestly what bugs me here is that they patched the kuruma and not the reset. An armoured car is too OP, but having a goddamn Jojo endboss stand to farm illegitimate cash is perfectly fair? I'd be fine with both getting patched eventually, but the non-gamebreaking on first? Screw that.

 

On the other hand, yes, the randumbs DO have to got good or got gone.

 

Back on the first hand though, we all know they won't. They'll try and try and waste everyone's time until the host gives up, then decide this heist is now impossible and whine to R* before they ever try self-improvement. THAT kind of rando never goes away.

[Suq Maddiq]

 

Well im glad i got rich on time lol,plus now i can change heist garage to 10 slot garage.All though shame im gonna miss afking while playing with friends to cook noodles or do some random bs ohh well.

You still can, if you take the Riot.

 

sweet so i can still afk in kuruma lol.

[JuniorChubb]

It amazes me how people refuse to make any effort to understand posts that they quote. I'll clarify for you. People have claimed that police spawns are fewer and/or that they are less agressive when the whole team sticks close together.

 

I don't know if there's any truth to that but I reckon that's something people should know about if they're using the motorcycles. Never bothered to find out because random players tend to fail anyway when they're not in a car and with any premade team it's never been an issue for me. But for some people it can make a difference and they can adjust their playstyle accordingly.

 

I've done this heist more than enough times and I know enough to get through it. Don't make assumptions just because you don't understand a post or bother to ask what the meaning of it was. As for the other players, most people know what to expect in this finale. But like many, they might not know about small details like this.

Little on here amazes me DM, its such an over dramatic response

 

But without going into the mechanics of the game, like Police spawn rates and positions (which so many of us claim to know) riding in a pack makes more sense. I would assume it offers greater protection from bullets, if a player falls and loses their bike it might be easier for another player to pick them up or offer cover fire rather than leaving them on foot to find their/a vehicle on their own.

 

If you have one player holding all the cash some people suggest letting them ride up front due to the time it take the cops to stop, turn and follow you. Even if you apply this technique the other 3 players may well benefit from riding as a group a short distance behind.

 

A sound technique if you ask me.

Edited January 29, 2017 by JuniorChubb

[DarkSavageDeathlyCloud]

 

It amazes me how people refuse to make any effort to understand posts that they quote. I'll clarify for you. People have claimed that police spawns are fewer and/or that they are less agressive when the whole team sticks close together. I don't know if there's any truth to that but I reckon that's something people should know about if they're using the motorcycles. Never bothered to find out because random players tend to fail anyway when they're not in a car and with any premade team it's never been an issue for me. But for some people it can make a difference and they can adjust their playstyle accordingly. I've done this heist more than enough times and I know enough to get through it. Don't make assumptions just because you don't understand a post or bother to ask what the meaning of it was. As for the other players, most people know what to expect in this finale. But like many, they might not know about small details like this.

Little on here amazes me DM, its such an over dramatic response ;)But without going into the mechanics of the game, like Police spawn rates and positions (which so many of us claim to know) riding in a pack makes more sense. I would assume it offers greater protection from bullets, if a player falls and loses their bike it might be easier for another player to pick them up or offer cover fire rather than leaving them on foot to find their/a vehicle on their own.If you have one player holding all the cash some people suggest letting them ride up front due to the time it take the cops to stop, turn and follow you. Even if you apply this technique the other 3 players may well benefit from riding as a group a short distance behind.

Don't forget overall spawning of cops...if everyone drives behind eachother the person being the most bothered by cops is the last one, thus if the team really has 3 capable people and one semi-sh*tstain, that semi-sh*tstain should drive preferably third in case he falls of his bike.

[Black-Dragon96]

You want easy money? There's hundreds of other methods of making easy money. If you don't want a challenge, may I suggest sitting in your apartment calling muggers and bounties on people.

Or i can just finish the heist by using a kuruma. Fun gameplay and good money. 100% better then sitting in an apartment and 100% less frustrating since i mostly help lowlevel randoms who do this heist for the first time.

 

And buddy, I'm not telling you how to do it. I could care less if you modded in a god damn unicorn to fart flames at police during the heist. I didn't develop nor create the game. You didn't either.

Yet you still like it that I cant play my way anymore. So this part of your post makes zero sense.

 

You wanna play it your way? Create your own game that gives you that option. It's a scripted mission. Suck it up and play it on how it's intended. You had years to repeat the same mission over and over and over and over again.

Did you ever hear about "customer feedback"? Its the right of the customer to say that he dont like the product/parts of the product. My customer feedback is that i dont like restrictions on my gameplay who are only there to slow down my progress and get my to buy cashcards.

I am not a million dollar company, so i cant develop a game that has the size of gta 5. This answer is also kinda dumb. Why? Well if you dont like the taste of a burger at mc donalds you dont open your own burger restaurant.

 

And by the way, it's spelt where*.

Thats fine. But english is not my mothertongue so i do not really care.

 

So in conclusion: You failed to answer my question.

Lets try again: Why do YOU do not want ME (or other people) to get money easier by using a kuruma for the pac standart finale? (Other people who are happy that it got removed are also invited to give me an answer for this question.)