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MisterDLCdreams

Pacific Standard Kuruma method patched?

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im seriously laughing at all the crying, back in the ps3s days no hiest vests no glitchs no armored karuma safe drive just suits masks and every 1 running down the ally way onto the bikes and speeding to the end zone on a hope and a dream, thats how i remember it, are yas afraid of some effort?

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SHADOW OPS

You are implying it is not fun or achievable on a bike. Not for me and not my experience.

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Fluffy Sock

 

You are way wide of the point here. What I'm talking about is why people are in this thread right now having a meltdown over this patch, and you know damn well that it's almost entirely because they liked using the Kuruma to make easy, effortless cash. Yes, you CAN do the heist in weird ways with personal vehicles. Most people don't, and that's not what anyone is actually talking about except Irish Hunter who is just scrabbling to try to salvage some dignity in an argument he already lost.

 

 

So if tomorrow they come with the happy idea of making the hook of the Cargobob not working in export missions, people shouldn't complain, because you can still drive the car to the destination with more "effort". "It's the way it was designed"

 

And so on. Criticism not allowed.

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irish.chr

im seriously laughing at all the crying, back in the ps3s days no hiest vests no glitchs no armored karuma safe drive just suits masks and every 1 running down the ally way onto the bikes and speeding to the end zone on a hope and a dream, thats how i remember it, are yas afraid of some effort?

...What? All of those things were on PS3 too...

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Gridl0k

You are implying it is not fun or achievable on a bike. Not for me and not my experience.

 

We were discussing whether it was on R* or the player base that the mission is frustrating and difficult with randoms and no mics, ie how over 99% of the lobbies form.

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SHADOW OPS

 

 

 

You are way wide of the point here. What I'm talking about is why people are in this thread right now having a meltdown over this patch, and you know damn well that it's almost entirely because they liked using the Kuruma to make easy, effortless cash. Yes, you CAN do the heist in weird ways with personal vehicles. Most people don't, and that's not what anyone is actually talking about except Irish Hunter who is just scrabbling to try to salvage some dignity in an argument he already lost.

 

So if tomorrow they come with the happy idea of making the hook of the Cargobob not working in export missions, people shouldn't complain, because you can still drive the car to the destination with more "effort". "It's the way it was designed"

 

And so on. Criticism not allowed.

Thats makes zero sense. It is a function of the cargobob. If they removed the cargobob altogether that would be something.

 

@Gridlok. Randoms seem to struggle with everything. This is no different.

 

Did a survival with a random this morning. Level 48. Died on the 2nd wave.

Edited by ragedandcaged

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DarkSavageDeathlyCloud

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Oh man, i haven't had this kind of fun on this forum since they made the roosevelt accessible for everyone to buy.

 

I really hope this is not intended as a mistake, and if it is, it never get's fixed untill the end of GTAO is near.

Edited by Darth Absentis

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A.Nothingman

im seriously laughing at all the crying, back in the ps3s days no hiest vests no glitchs no armored karuma safe drive just suits masks and every 1 running down the ally way onto the bikes and speeding to the end zone on a hope and a dream, thats how i remember it, are yas afraid of some effort?

Lol and doing the frickin Human Labs setup in which you had to kill the scientists and guards in silent WITH RANDOMS :D

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Personal

Came for the tears, shark card blaming and the usual "waaah R* is evil company" stuff, and now I'm leaving 110% satisfied.

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Nutduster

On reflection I would downgrade that to borderline tolerable.

 

But now, your best ever run is going to end with random number 4 hitting a tree while parachuting to the boat.

 

The biggest issue with this change is yes, it makes the finale way too difficult with many randoms (not all - I have occasionally done this with competent randoms, but they're a rare breed). That said, the truly wet-behind-the-ears randoms didn't even know the Kuruma garage method and would just take off on the bikes; I've had that problem several times. Yes you could message them, but if you can do that you can also message them to get in a cop car with you. So there are workarounds, if imperfect ones.

 

But I am with you that really, it's on Rockstar. Their difficulty calibration is constantly out of whack. There are a lot of parts of heists that are just way too hard to do with anyone other than a coordinated group of decent players. See also: Bikes, Convoy, Deliver EMP, and others. That is not necessarily a bad thing except that so much of the rest of the game plays just fine with randoms who aren't talking to each other - so it's a real learning experience, figuring out what you can do with just anyone, and what you really need to call in friends to help out with. And if you're a lone wolf type who plays without friends and finds all the rest of the easier content appealing, then probably heists are just never going to be your thing.

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Fluffy Sock

 

 

 

 

You are way wide of the point here. What I'm talking about is why people are in this thread right now having a meltdown over this patch, and you know damn well that it's almost entirely because they liked using the Kuruma to make easy, effortless cash. Yes, you CAN do the heist in weird ways with personal vehicles. Most people don't, and that's not what anyone is actually talking about except Irish Hunter who is just scrabbling to try to salvage some dignity in an argument he already lost.

 

So if tomorrow they come with the happy idea of making the hook of the Cargobob not working in export missions, people shouldn't complain, because you can still drive the car to the destination with more "effort". "It's the way it was designed"

 

And so on. Criticism not allowed.

Thats makes zero sense. It is a function of the cargobob. If they removed the cargobob altogether that would be something.

 

 

And accessing a garage-apartment was an active function in the PS finale. Just like using snacks or armor.

Edited by Perez84

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JuniorChubb

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Oh man, i haven't had this kind of fun on this forum since they made the roosevelt accessible for everyone to buy.

 

I really hope this is not intended as a mistake, and if it is, it never get's fixed untill the end of GTAO is near.

 

I am torn between laughing, crying and chucking my laptop out of the window. :lol:

 

A great read but a frustrating read at the same time. My facepalms seem to match up with my tear wiping.

 

Just to add for the cargobob comments: IIRC there is a cut scene animation for dropping of a car with a cargobob (I remember reading about it), if this is the case using the CB is encouraged, not bending the game mechanincs and therefore highly unlikely to be removed.

Edited by JuniorChubb

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ash-274

 

im seriously laughing at all the crying, back in the ps3s days no hiest vests no glitchs no armored karuma safe drive just suits masks and every 1 running down the ally way onto the bikes and speeding to the end zone on a hope and a dream, thats how i remember it, are yas afraid of some effort?

 

...What? All of those things were on PS3 too...AND the spawned helicopter

AND the ride-the-bike-under-the-map exploit

(AND the "oh, you thought you opened that parachute? Think again, street-pizza!" failure-glitch)

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DarkSavageDeathlyCloud

 

 

 

 

 

You are way wide of the point here. What I'm talking about is why people are in this thread right now having a meltdown over this patch, and you know damn well that it's almost entirely because they liked using the Kuruma to make easy, effortless cash. Yes, you CAN do the heist in weird ways with personal vehicles. Most people don't, and that's not what anyone is actually talking about except Irish Hunter who is just scrabbling to try to salvage some dignity in an argument he already lost.

 

So if tomorrow they come with the happy idea of making the hook of the Cargobob not working in export missions, people shouldn't complain, because you can still drive the car to the destination with more "effort". "It's the way it was designed"

 

And so on. Criticism not allowed.

Thats makes zero sense. It is a function of the cargobob. If they removed the cargobob altogether that would be something.

 

 

And accesing a garage-apartment was an active function in the PS finale. Just like using snacks or armor.

 

But it is not anymore :)

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-LN-

Hm, I think I've only done Pac Standard two or three times now; can't quite remember as it's been well over a year. I've only ever used the bikes and I don't particularly care for the Armoured Kuruma, but I'm certainly not opposed to others using it and honestly find it a bit insulting that R* patched this instead of Christ, I don't know, fixing bugs within the game that break the game or hinder overall progress. It's all about the money though, eh? Gotta get those priorities straight because god forbid you dare do anything that doesn't fall into R's projected vision of game play; especially if it garners some a faster or more efficient way of earning virtual money.

 

 

I need to hear the reformed shadowops opinion on this as he's somehow gained 50 iq points and or less medication since his hiatus. To the point where I agree with him most of the time now. Oddly..

I am still the same on the inside. Play the game the way the game allows you to or play something else. Whining is for the weak minded.

Whining...petitions...does nothing.

Play the hand you are dealt. There are games I don't like...and guess what...

I DON'T PLAY THEM.

Has nothing to do with liking or not liking the game. Most of us do like the game, but if no one ever spoke up about anything and we just decided to blindly praise every element good or bad, nothing would likely ever change. That pertains to just about anything and everything in life. Petitions don't do anything? That's a good laugh; cheers for that one!

 

Anyway, there's nothing wrong with thinking or doing things outside the box and gee, I don't know, questioning the motives of these things when they happen. Nothing good ever came of always just bending over and taking it up the arse whenever someone or some group in their infinite wisdom decided to say you must do this or you must do that and how dare you criticise our reasoning. If anything, THAT is weak and constructive criticism, feedback, petitions, complaints, etc, etc ought to be welcomed with open arms.

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Fluffy Sock

 

 

 

 

 

 

You are way wide of the point here. What I'm talking about is why people are in this thread right now having a meltdown over this patch, and you know damn well that it's almost entirely because they liked using the Kuruma to make easy, effortless cash. Yes, you CAN do the heist in weird ways with personal vehicles. Most people don't, and that's not what anyone is actually talking about except Irish Hunter who is just scrabbling to try to salvage some dignity in an argument he already lost.

 

So if tomorrow they come with the happy idea of making the hook of the Cargobob not working in export missions, people shouldn't complain, because you can still drive the car to the destination with more "effort". "It's the way it was designed"

 

And so on. Criticism not allowed.

Thats makes zero sense. It is a function of the cargobob. If they removed the cargobob altogether that would be something.

 

 

And accesing a garage-apartment was an active function in the PS finale. Just like using snacks or armor.

 

But it is not anymore :)

 

 

And that's the reason we are pointing that is a DICK move, whether if you like it or not.

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DarkSavageDeathlyCloud

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

You are way wide of the point here. What I'm talking about is why people are in this thread right now having a meltdown over this patch, and you know damn well that it's almost entirely because they liked using the Kuruma to make easy, effortless cash. Yes, you CAN do the heist in weird ways with personal vehicles. Most people don't, and that's not what anyone is actually talking about except Irish Hunter who is just scrabbling to try to salvage some dignity in an argument he already lost.

 

So if tomorrow they come with the happy idea of making the hook of the Cargobob not working in export missions, people shouldn't complain, because you can still drive the car to the destination with more "effort". "It's the way it was designed"

 

And so on. Criticism not allowed.

Thats makes zero sense. It is a function of the cargobob. If they removed the cargobob altogether that would be something.

 

 

And accesing a garage-apartment was an active function in the PS finale. Just like using snacks or armor.

 

But it is not anymore :)

 

 

And that's the reason we are pointing that is a DICK move, whether if you like it or not.

 

O, but i do not mind you not liking it at all.

Sorry for the misunderstanding. :)

 

I do how ever think that it was in fact never intended to be this way and even if it once was, i think this removal was intended.

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DigitalNikki

Yesterday (Jan/26/2017) I read it was changed yesterday, and only demolition can get in the apartment now. I have not had a chance to try it however.

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Fluffy Sock

Laughs will turn into sighs as soon as you people realize crappy servers and crappy matchmaking are still here running wild, because they spend their time on things like this.

 

Maybe it's just the way the game is designed, cloud simulator, kicks to singleplayer and that sh*t. Don't you even dare complain. ;)

Edited by Perez84

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DarkSavageDeathlyCloud

Laughs will turn into sighs as soon as you people realize crappy servers and crappy matchmaking are still here running wild, because they spend their time on things like this.

 

Maybe it's just the way the game is designed, cloud simulator, kicks to singleplayer and that sh*t. Don't you even dare complain. ;)

To late, i already did several times at the Endless Pit of Moans and Tears

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Gnocchi Flip Flops

Glad I'm not much into playing anymore and there's not much I want atm anyway. Plus there's rumors of updates slowing. You won't catch me grinding crappy ass missions again, no way.

 

Also, gotta love the losers who are cheering like it actually affected them. Meanwhile people can actually "glitch" actual glitches and make millions in an hour and not get caught but a "glitch" to use a car we should've been able to use anyway gets patched. Logic. Using an armored car for the small bank robbery but not the big one? No thank you. This game was getting boring anyway lol...

 

If I want something really bad I'll get a Shark Card. Yup. I did it before. I'm not going to waste hours of my time just to acquire some overpriced car not worth it.

Edited by Scaglietti

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Maddened_Ghost

Also, gotta love the losers who are cheering like it actually affected them. Meanwhile people can actually "glitch" actual glitches and make millions in an hour and not get caught but a "glitch" to use a car we should've been able to use anyway gets patched. Logic. Using an armored car for the small bank robbery but not the big one? No thank you. This game was getting boring anyway lol...

not just that, there's an actual bug within heists right now that prevents vehicles from spawning in front of the apartment but it's not patched, yet people cheering at a function that was in the game and it got removed even that it didn't affect them in any way, (yes, i walked near my garage and got in so it was a function, not a glitch).

Edited by Maddened_Ghost

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scalliano

Stifling player creativity is flat out against the entire spirit of GTA. This is one of the most notably petty moves on R*'s part for sure, but it highlights a criticism that applies to the last few entries in the franchise, not just GTAO. Remember the casino heist setup mission in San Andreas where you had to steal the Cargobob/skycrane? You could shoot your way through the barracks, or break off and grab the jetpack, skipping half the mission. The majority of missions in the 3D era were almost entirely open-ended. THAT was GTA, not overly-restrictive, linear missions more akin to something from CoD. And "it's supposed to be cinematic" is not a justification - this is still a video game, first and foremost.

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xXManATeeXx

At least you can still use the cop car by the ramp. Anything is better than those bikes that leave you entirely out in the open.

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Just wear the heavy vest outfit and search up a YouTube video of best Pac Standard bike routes. I know two main routes (with a number of small variations) that will keep you off-road for 90% of the drive and keep the police off your back. You should NEVER die during the drive unless you are comically awful on a bike, and you should only lose maybe 50K unless you crash. We've actually had a few perfect takes using these routes, on the bikes.

Yeah, I know the route. The one we've been taking with the Kuruma. But this time I'll try the train tracks.

 

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The checkpoint doesn't load if you don't go through the tunnel so cops will still come after you, even when you jump in the boat.

 

 

But on topic, I can't wait to test this out. I haven't done it the proper way before. The Kuruma method was a think when I started playing and since then it became the main method.

 

It's time to lose a whole lotta take and die a whole lotta times.

Use the swat vans and follow the freeway, but don't tell anyone that i told you about this "glitch"

 

It's not exactly a "glitch". I've noticed that NPCs start driving in their normal route whenever someone reaches the bikes. So it's possible to steal any car and just leg it.

I just want to do it proper. With the bikes. And a parachute at the end. Like it's meant to be played.

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RedDagger

I'm seeing a lot of antagonistic and baity posts here, please try to remain civil with your posts.

 

Thanks!

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DarkSavageDeathlyCloud

Lol, creativity and not being effected....

being pretty much forced into an armored sh*tty vehicle and getting flamed when not entering said vehicle....sure...

Again, if randumb players were not that insisting on doing that sh*tty trick i would not mind and i would see this as a useless change.

But yea, i personally was almost done with this heist BECAUSE of this sh*tty trick.

 

Also like i said, there are plenty of ways to do it with bikes....or with other cars like the cop car that always spawns at the ramp, or just random vehicles.

 

It feels good knowing that i probably will never ever again be run over by some sh*thead in some kuruma because i did not blow up the bikes or because i simply want to take a random car.

 

Also the moaning that i would die.....

"No i wont die easy on this f*cking heist since i am not some noob like most people like you playing this game !" jeezes, f*cking glad this kind of things is probably gonna be ancient history very quickly very soon.

 

so yes, this sh*tty method did effect me in a bad way....if it did not, why would i mind it ?

The grind in a kuruma is boring as f*ck, the moaning of randumbs to hop into their sh*tty cars is cringe worthy and the non availability of a non armored vehicle with bullet proof tires was becoming really really anoying, but now it is history, do not expect me to NOT cheer up about this sh*t man :p

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Maddened_Ghost

 

Just wear the heavy vest outfit and search up a YouTube video of best Pac Standard bike routes. I know two main routes (with a number of small variations) that will keep you off-road for 90% of the drive and keep the police off your back. You should NEVER die during the drive unless you are comically awful on a bike, and you should only lose maybe 50K unless you crash. We've actually had a few perfect takes using these routes, on the bikes.

Yeah, I know the route. The one we've been taking with the Kuruma. But this time I'll try the train tracks.

 

RuYTzfB.jpg

 

The checkpoint doesn't load if you don't go through the tunnel so cops will still come after you, even when you jump in the boat.

 

But on topic, I can't wait to test this out. I haven't done it the proper way before. The Kuruma method was a think when I started playing and since then it became the main method.

 

It's time to lose a whole lotta take and die a whole lotta times.

Use the swat vans and follow the freeway, but don't tell anyone that i told you about this "glitch"

 

It's not exactly a "glitch". I've noticed that NPCs start driving in their normal route whenever someone reaches the bikes. So it's possible to steal any car and just leg it.

I just want to do it proper. With the bikes. And a parachute at the end. Like it's meant to be played.

 

Yes i know it's not a glitch, i said that in a sarcastic way since people were treating the kuruma method as a glitch

On a side-note: back on the PS3 there was literally no traffic during the entire heist except police cars and that van near the ramp so we were using it since it was parked there

Edited by Maddened_Ghost

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wudisc

interesting they patched this method after so long. i think they implemented this restriction to your personal garage for specific reason that entering during the final wasn't necessarily a glitch, but there were indeed glitches associated with it.... such as no cops spawning during the getaway to the boat" and of course, being able to park a streetcar outside the bank". just a theory..

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The Wandering Hunter

duping ftw

 

and it's not like it's impossible without the turtle, just grab an npc car or 2

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