A fair(?) way to rebalance jets and homing launchers.

[CarnageRacing00]

^To be fair, if you're stuck in a car then any attack vehicle is going to get you badly - even underpowered ones like the Buzzard (sh*t, probably even an Annihilator would have an easy enough time getting you if you're stuck in a car).

 

That kind of thing is less an issue of vehicles; more Rockstar's decision to pit standard vehicles against players in situations they'll never have a fair chance.

Buzzard's lock on missiles won't catch a car going full speed. You have to turn off lock-on and time your shot, which requires skill, which is how it should be. Also, if you're being chased by a Buzzard, take every turn you can. More than likely the pilot will end up hitting a building or something trying to maneuver around to get a shot at you. If you're in the North, just drive as fast as you can and avoid traffic.

[SHADOW OPS]

I have caught supercars and shotaros going full-speed. You have to fly lower so the missiles have a more straight on trajectory.

[CarnageRacing00]

I have caught supercars and shotaros going full-speed. You have to fly lower so the missiles have a more straight on trajectory.

I do the same thing and it never catches them. It's almost like the game registers the collision between the missile and the car but by the time the explosion happens, the car has escaped it.

[SHADOW OPS]

 

I have caught supercars and shotaros going full-speed. You have to fly lower so the missiles have a more straight on trajectory.

I do the same thing and it never catches them. It's almost like the game registers the collision between the missile and the car but by the time the explosion happens, the car has escaped it.

I must be getting lucky.

[BitBasher]

If there's no passive mode on armed aircraft then it's impossible to get your own hydra up in the sky to counter. That would be very bad.

It would also mean once someone makes the griefers plane smoke with a few heavy rifle shots that he will go down in a minute and when he does he won't get another on in the air.

 

Considering how rarely I see someone take up a jet to fight another jet I'm more than happy for that trade off.

[Nyamber]

THE-IRISH-HUNTER It is a Pegasus vehicle, you can only own one you doughnut!!

You can have more than one character, you nincompoop.

[Aether]

The homo launcher needs to be removed from the game completely. Not altered.

 

The first day it came out was the last day the buzzard/annihilator pilot breed existed.

 

Anyone with brains and experience knows that RPGs are more effective than the homo launcher for taking out jets to begin with. The homo launcher only does it's job (against aircraft) when you use it without aiming through the scope.

 

Disagree and you haven't been playing this game long enough.

 

I read the op too, I have no clue how the changes you're proposing would help anyone. I haven't seen an anti jet thread on this forum for months so it can't be that bad.

 

Any buff to the launcher is a danger to one type of culture or another. As a dogfighter I certainly don't want to be stuck on the ground suffering through the same satanic cancerous fate that my rotor wing brothers suffered.

 

The way people play on the ground in this game is f*cking horrifying. Unless maybe you're in free aim.. even then? >_>

[elfoam]

 

If there's no passive mode on armed aircraft then it's impossible to get your own hydra up in the sky to counter. That would be very bad.

Use passive to get there, once you're close off radar, hop into jet, done.

 

You might want to trick the enemy pilot if he's actually more competent than your average griefer. Example: Drive towards marina helipad, enable off radar and quickly head to the hospital helipad.

 

It sounds good in theory but even an off radar car with a player in it shows up like a dogs balls from the air, they spawn in before any npc car. You can play cat and mouse with an experienced Hydra pilot for hours but he will never let you get further than 5 metres off the ground. I've had it happen to me and seen it, once you do get in the air you'll need a player on the ground to distract the other Hydra in order to get out of passive as they will shadow you otherwise.

[WannaDJ]

The homing launcher should require a level in order to unlock it. Even if it's not the Hydra, it is annoying you just can't use the Savage anymore (unless off the radar) in free roam, because a 10 level player will shoot you down like it's nothing. Pretty hard to dodge rockets in the Savage and it takes years to get out.

[Dacelo]

The homo launcher needs to be removed from the game completely. Not altered.

 

The first day it came out was the last day the buzzard/annihilator pilot breed existed.

 

Anyone with brains and experience knows that RPGs are more effective than the homo launcher for taking out jets to begin with. The homo launcher only does it's job (against aircraft) when you use it without aiming through the scope.

Are you 12?

[Smooth Longsack]

Who wins? Hydra or this thread?

[SHADOW OPS]

In my opinion the hydra cannot win.

[REXX]

The way people play on the ground in this game is f*cking horrifying. Unless maybe you're in free aim.. even then? >_>

Honestly, it ain't much better in the air either.

[Smooth Longsack]

 

The way people play on the ground in this game is f*cking horrifying. Unless maybe you're in free aim.. even then? >_>

Honestly, it ain't much better in the air either.

Off the radar for four minutes then immediately enter passive til off radar cool down or air is clear. Problem?

[REXX]

 

 

The way people play on the ground in this game is f*cking horrifying. Unless maybe you're in free aim.. even then? >_>

Honestly, it ain't much better in the air either.

Off the radar for four minutes then immediately enter passive til off radar cool down or air is clear. Problem?

No problem. Should have made it a bit clearer I was referring to the Homing Launcher. My bad

[DarkSavageDeathlyCloud]

 

 

The way people play on the ground in this game is f*cking horrifying. Unless maybe you're in free aim.. even then? >_>

Honestly, it ain't much better in the air either.

Off the radar for four minutes then immediately enter passive til off radar cool down or air is clear. Problem?

 

Yes. Obviously

[Aether]

 

The homo launcher needs to be removed from the game completely. Not altered.

 

The first day it came out was the last day the buzzard/annihilator pilot breed existed.

 

Anyone with brains and experience knows that RPGs are more effective than the homo launcher for taking out jets to begin with. The homo launcher only does it's job (against aircraft) when you use it without aiming through the scope.

Are you 12?

 

 

 

Bruh... you're 13 years off. Matter of fact you could of just checked my profile.

 

You must be new here. Don't be a noob.

[Dacelo]

Usually people grow out of calling things they don't like gay by the time they leave primary school.

[MeisterJazz]

 

 

The homo launcher needs to be removed from the game completely. Not altered.

 

The first day it came out was the last day the buzzard/annihilator pilot breed existed.

 

Anyone with brains and experience knows that RPGs are more effective than the homo launcher for taking out jets to begin with. The homo launcher only does it's job (against aircraft) when you use it without aiming through the scope.

Are you 12?

 

 

 

Bruh... you're 13 years off. Matter of fact you could of just checked my profile.

 

You must be new here. Don't be a noob.

 

Damn dude, why you gotta say homo launcher? What did us homo-sexual do to you?

[SHADOW OPS]

I love my Insurgent and Shotaro. But to refer to them sexually...seems weird.

[Nutduster]

Or just remove the exploding rounds... Which i think its the simple way of doing it for the simple minded folks at R*.

 

90% of jet trolls would be a joke without it.

 

This is a much simpler fix than all this complicated stuff with changing the homing launcher and adding defense mechanisms to most other flying vehicles. There's no need for all that. Just get to the root of the problem and fix that. I don't care what people paid for their Hydras - I own one too. It still needs to be nerfed.

 

As for the homing launcher, if they fix jets they can remove or nerf the launcher, too. As it stands it's ineffectual against the thing it was really meant to counter, and too effective by far against literally everything else. Genius work by Rockstar.

Edited January 18, 2017 by Nutduster

[SaltyGTAFMember]

 

Or just remove the exploding rounds... Which i think its the simple way of doing it for the simple minded folks at R*.

 

90% of jet trolls would be a joke without it.

 

This is a much simpler fix than all this complicated stuff with changing the homing launcher and adding defense mechanisms to most other flying vehicles. There's no need for all that. Just get to the root of the problem and fix that. I don't care what people paid for their Hydras - I own one too. It still needs to be nerfed.

 

As for the homing launcher, if they fix jets they can remove or nerf the launcher, too. As it stands it's ineffectual against the thing it was really meant to counter, and too effective by far against literally everything else. Genius work by Rockstar.

 

Should have never made it in the designs of jets.

[XxSoLiDSnAkEOxX]

Everyone on the ground hates being killed by an MLG Strafer, myself included. However that doesn't mean that the tools available to you to knock them out aren't available, a homing launcher can be free fired without lock on simply by leading a target, the same goes with using an RPG. Sometimes if your lucky and fire at a weird angle with a lock on you'll hit it. But use your environment, stay in the city and use buildings, bridges, and tunnels to your advantage. Sometimes those pilots do crash, note though that there are many skilled pilots out there so the best thing to do 90% of the time is don't bother them, and they won't bother you.

[Ethereal_NYC]

I despise jets

 

They are the TBOGT buzzards but 1000X worse

 

Same goes for savages and anything with infinite explosive ammo

 

I loathe all the army vehicles/weapons

 

I say buff the homing launcher and eliminate the ability to target vehicles

[XxSoLiDSnAkEOxX]

I despise jets

 

They are the TBOGT buzzards but 1000X worse

 

Same goes for savages and anything with infinite explosive ammo

 

I loathe all the army vehicles/weapons

 

I say buff the homing launcher and eliminate the ability to target vehicles

Dude a Savage is easy to shoot down, they're practically flying coffins. If a Savage is giving you problems, you should improve your skill set instead of posting on here.

[Hécate-II]

Its easy to shoot down without even using Homing Launcher at the point I'm wondering why they added such helico.

[XxSoLiDSnAkEOxX]

Its easy to shoot down without even using Homing Launcher at the point I'm wondering why they added such helico.

Why anyone would choose the flying coffin over the Buzzard always has been a question I can't see a logical answer to.

[TankGirl]

 

 

If there's no passive mode on armed aircraft then it's impossible to get your own hydra up in the sky to counter. That would be very bad.

Use passive to get there, once you're close off radar, hop into jet, done.You might want to trick the enemy pilot if he's actually more competent than your average griefer. Example: Drive towards marina helipad, enable off radar and quickly head to the hospital helipad.

It sounds good in theory but even an off radar car with a player in it shows up like a dogs balls from the air, they spawn in before any npc car. You can play cat and mouse with an experienced Hydra pilot for hours but he will never let you get further than 5 metres off the ground. I've had it happen to me and seen it, once you do get in the air you'll need a player on the ground to distract the other Hydra in order to get out of passive as they will shadow you otherwise.It's not that hard to get into a jet to go up in the sky and fight a griefer. I go passive on ground, they get bored and fly to new targets, I call my hydra in, go off radar and hop in my jet. Only on a couple occasions has my jet been blown up before I could get in it and the second time I always was able to pull it off.

 

I think by disabling passive mode it could be more helpful in air combat because griefers love going in and out of passive during a dog fight.

 

As far as a fair way to rebalance the jet. maybe removing the amount of time you can shoot the explosive cannons but not completing getting rid of it? The cannons do come in handy during air battles so I would hate to see it go completely. Also while I love the Laser maybe R should make it so you can't steal them from the base? Or maybe R can implement when a jet gets to a 3 or 4 star level that military jets come after them? Kind of like a griefer police force lol.

Edited March 29, 2017 by TankGirl

[Xiled]

I think rockstar should do a test by "accidentally" removing the explosive guns for an update to see what would happen. And knowing how it isn't a money glitch, it means that they will forget about it. Oh I would donate $100,000 of my in game money for that to happen.

[Happy Hunter]

 

Its easy to shoot down without even using Homing Launcher at the point I'm wondering why they added such helico.

Why anyone would choose the flying coffin over the Buzzard always has been a question I can't see a logical answer to.

 

I only pick it for the looks really, and I delude myself into thinking I'm in a mighty, powerful Hind.

 

Edited March 29, 2017 by Happy Hunter