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Megumi

Was Obama a good president?

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sivispacem

And one who genuinely thinks Obama was "about to start World War 3" demonstrates they have absolutely no understanding of geopolitics, strategic studies, history or international relations, and should be laughed at.

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Jacobmaate

 

 

I'm gonna miss him and Joe Biden.

Hey! I just jumped in here to give a shout out to uncle Joe Biden too. By far the best VP I can think of(in my lifetime).

someone agrees with you...

 

 

 

I was well pleased to see this on my Twitter feed earlier today, he desverves it!

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Rockstar Vienna

I tolld you just to remember, what he promised. How about Guantanamo? It´s still worcking. And when you tallking about places he bombed, the number of this places is biger than under every other president including Bush. And not to forget, Obama was about to start World War 3, so this really deserve a pece Noble price.

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ClaudeSpeed1911

Speaking of Biden, he should run the next time there is an election. He would be a good president.

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El Dildo

he won't run again but he would certainly be easier to vote for than most of the psychos who usually run.

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Crokey

I wouldn't rule out Biden for the next one, although my top three picks for the Democrats would be either Biden, Michelle Obama or a bit of an outside shot, but I hear that she is being prepped for it and has the political experience (unlike the 45th) and would have the support of the Armed Forces, having served, that being Hawaiian representative Tulsi Gabbard (who's quite tidy looking as well).

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DareYokel

I wouldn't rule out Biden for the next one, although my top three picks for the Democrats would be either Biden, Michelle Obama or a bit of an outside shot, but I hear that she is being prepped for it and has the political experience (unlike the 45th) and would have the support of the Armed Forces, having served, that being Hawaiian representative Tulsi Gabbard (who's quite tidy looking as well).

Oh my god! How AWESOME would it be if Trump were to lose to a black woman in 2020? Please, forces of the universe, unite and let it happen.

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mr quick

he won't run again but he would certainly be easier to vote for than most of the psychos who usually run.

 

you don't HAVE to vote you know

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El Dildo

true.

but I want to vote. there's usually someone worth voting for... or someone who's really worth voting against.

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Alihunter

He was cool with my country at least.

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cj2000

And one who genuinely thinks Obama was "about to start World War 3" demonstrates they have absolutely no understanding of geopolitics, strategic studies, history or international relations, and should be laughed at.

Now I have to laugh at you. You tallking about history, but having no idea what it is. You definitlly have learned history by some moovies, so tallking about such sereous things with you, or that other crazy kids really make no sence. I just glad that nightmare called Obama has finally come to its end.

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Sunrise Driver

Welcome back! Please enlighten us more about universal truth, about glorious intelligent leaders - Trump and Putin that were sent to us, sinners, from Heavens as a last chance to salvation.

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cj2000

Welcome back! Please enlighten us more about universal truth, about glorious intelligent leaders - Trump and Putin that were sent to us, sinners, from Heavens as a last chance to salvation.

Trump has already made more for USA, than Obama during his 8 years. And remember my words Trump will stay in the whitehouse for the next 8 years.

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Piggsy pls

I seriously can't tell if you're trolling or not.

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cj2000

I seriously can't tell if you're trolling or not.

So everibody against Obama is a troll? Yes I really think, Obama was the worth US president ever. If people from Obama fanclub can´t live with this, it´s not my problem.

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sivispacem

You tallking about history, but having no idea what it is.

And exactly what technical merit or qualification do you have to speak on the subject? Your posts are nothing but circular logic and meaningless drivel.

 

You definitlly have learned history by some moovies

Says the person trying to pretend that a direct great military power conflict of any kind is feasible in the modern era. That really is the stuff of fiction.

 

Let's look at this analytically from the perspective of game theory. The US has no real benefit to be gained from a direct military confrontation with Russia; ergo there is no strategic drive behind direct aggression. A policy of attempting to counteract Russian aggression against NATO powers is, however, eminently sensible. It won't lead to a direct military conflict at all, much less a cataclysmic one. It's simply achieved through mending bridges in areas of existing agreement whilst remaining firm on Russian interventionism against NATO members.

 

Conversely, Russia benefits strategically from attempting to extend influence into neighbouring states including NATO ones, but would not benefit from direct military confrontation with the US as it would be unwinnable. Ergo, small victories driven by covert action are the most we're likely to see pursued.

 

so tallking about such sereous things with you

I do find the irony of someone who can scarcely string a sentence, much less a coherent argument, together, descending into ad hominems and calling out someone who is, let's be honest here, clearly infinitely more qualified to speak on the subject delightful.

 

If WWIII is a viable concern, you'll be able to coherently explain a hypothetical set of likely circumstances leading to its breakout.

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DangerZ0neX

 

he won't run again but he would certainly be easier to vote for than most of the psychos who usually run.

you don't HAVE to vote you know

Just because you don't like either candidates personally, think of which of the two candidates would benefit the country the most, staying behind and not voting makes you a useless dead weight who could've prevented the worst choices from being elected.

 

Want a classic example? George Bush in 2000. Want a fresh example? Trump in 2016.

 

Sooooo many people wasted their votes, something that they should be thankful for and not take for granted, the huge amount of people who abstained from voting for Hillary to prevent Trump from f*cking over America should be ashamed for being selfish and not thinking what's beneficial for their country.

 

I had to vent this out, it just pisses me off...

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mr quick

 

 

he won't run again but he would certainly be easier to vote for than most of the psychos who usually run.

you don't HAVE to vote you know

Just because you don't like either candidates personally, think of which of the two candidates would benefit the country the most, staying behind and not voting makes you a useless dead weight who could've prevented the worst choices from being elected.

 

Want a classic example? George Bush in 2000. Want a fresh example? Trump in 2016.

 

Sooooo many people wasted their votes, something that they should be thankful for and not take for granted, the huge amount of people who abstained from voting for Hillary to prevent Trump from f*cking over America should be ashamed for being selfish and not thinking what's beneficial for their country.

 

I had to vent this out, it just pisses me off...

 

 

Clinton was f*cking sh*t too. I'd sleep much better not voting.

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DangerZ0neX

Clinton was f*cking sh*t too. I'd sleep much better not voting.

Dude, she's better than Trump in every single conceivable way, you'd sleep worse knowing you let a reality TV star white trash into office instead of voting for someone who has actual experience as a politician and continues in the footsteps of Obama.

 

Y'know, healthcare still being available and improved, not letting the 1% control the government, preventing oil companies from drilling the Earth into swiss cheese, and increase spending on education and lower the cost of housing. Guess how that turned out.

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mr quick

But Obama was also sh*t?

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Rockstar Vienna

I seriously can't tell if you're trolling or not.

He's gotta be... No way this guy's real.

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ten-a-penny

 

Welcome back! Please enlighten us more about universal truth, about glorious intelligent leaders - Trump and Putin that were sent to us, sinners, from Heavens as a last chance to salvation.

Trump has already made more for USA, than Obama during his 8 years. And remember my words Trump will stay in the whitehouse for the next 8 years.

Tell me every good thing that humanoid orange has done.

Now, tell me everything Obama did.

 

 

That flunck hasn't even been in full charge yet and he's already f*cking up the country. R.I.P USA. You WERE once great.

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DangerZ0neX

But Obama was also sh*t?

Oh cool, you're a troll. Should've figured that out sooner.

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make total destroy

If you don't lick Obama's boot, you're obviously a troll.

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sreyazsec

 

 

not voting makes you a useless dead weight who could've prevented the worst choices from being elected.

But that's subjective..

 

If you do vote for either, there are always going to be a great deal of people who will attack you for voting the way you did and there will be those that will tell you that you shouldn't be allowed to vote.

You can't win.

Whether you vote or not.

 

Slamming someone for not voting because you think their vote could've saved/improved the country is silly.

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DangerZ0neX

If you don't lick Obama's boot, you're obviously a troll.

A troll is someone who calls Obama, an objectively better president than the current elect and all the previous republicans since Reagan, a "sh*t" president.

 

It's like the guy beforehand who said he's the worst president in the last 50 years, that's not considered opinion, that's considered bullsh*t. Saying you don't like Obama is an opinion you're fully entitled to, calling him sh*t makes you look like an uninformed moron.

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DerangedCrackhead

To be honest, I find him the other side of the same coin. The fact that he got the Nobel Peace Prize still hurts; after that fash of Kissinger got his own it kind of loses any meaning anyway.

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mr quick

 

If you don't lick Obama's boot, you're obviously a troll.

A troll is someone who calls Obama, an objectively better president than the current elect and all the previous republicans since Reagan, a "sh*t" president.

 

It's like the guy beforehand who said he's the worst president in the last 50 years, that's not considered opinion, that's considered bullsh*t. Saying you don't like Obama is an opinion you're fully entitled to, calling him sh*t makes you look like an uninformed moron.

 

 

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sivispacem

Whilst I'm not exactly an advocate of the US drone program given that it hasn't actually succeeded in achieving any of its strategic objectives (if anything, the inverse), it's worth noting that the collateral damage caused by strikes during Obama's tenure is much, much lower than conventional airstrikes. A ratio of 1 civilian casualty for every 14.1 militants according to figures compiles by the New America Foundation trumps pretty much all conventional airstrikes.

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