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Was Obama a good president?

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DareYokel

 

At 57...

 

 

holy sh/t you're f/cking 60 years old and you're arguing (with shameless ignorance) about the Affordable Care Act on a gaming forum?

 

wow.

well at least that explains a lot.

There is absolutely no way that he's 57. Literally only a retarded 57 year old would argue on such a superficial level. At that age even if one's worldview is completely wrong, you could tell that it's an older person by how they construct their sentences and form arguments. Coupled with the fact that he's on a gaming forum and that he writes in such a simplistic manner makes it obvious that he's AT BEST 18. But I'm willing to bet that he's not even old enough to vote. If he is, then he's not college educated. He's basically white trash and it's obvious from a mile away. But since he's obviously a kid we should cut him some slack.

 

But how the hell can anyone, regardless of their age say that Obamacare is bad when 13 million previously uninsured people now have health insurance because of it? It's not perfect, but it's obviously better than the previous system that didn't cover additional 13 million people, and so obviously better than the abomination that the GOP is trying to pass that would deny healthcare to 24 million people and make it even less affordable to many others, including the veterans that conservatives always cry about like they care.

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AlienTwo

There is absolutely no way that he's 57. Literally only a retarded 57 year old would argue on such a superficial level.

You just described Trump's entire base.

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ULPaperContact

 

 

You just described Trump's entire base. Yeah, it's your mentality we don't want in the White House.

 

 

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ULPaperContact

 

 

 

 

But how the hell can anyone, regardless of their age say that Obamacare is bad when 13 million previously uninsured people now have health insurance because of it? It's not perfect, but it's obviously better than the previous system that didn't cover additional 13 million people, and so obviously better than the abomination that the GOP is trying to pass that would deny healthcare to 24 million people and make it even less affordable to many others, including the veterans that conservatives always cry about like they care.

 

 

Where the hell do you think the money for all these dumbass's health care came from?

 

The taxpayers.

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make total destroy

Yo UL, remember when your boy Reagan supported and enacted the Mulford Act?

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ULPaperContact

Yo UL, remember when your boy Reagan supported and enacted the Mulford Act?

Yes. Still an incredibly stupid decision on his part. Hope that it gets repealed with the NFA.

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sivispacem

I'm still waiting for an explanation of why you think it's reasonable to spend taxpayer's money on roads but not on healthcare.

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Sunrise Driver
I said it once, I'll say it again. My tax dollars are for roads and the military, I DO NOT owe anything to anyone else.

Then pls pay back the money, spent on your public school education.

 

Healthcare is a service. It's a privilege, not a right. No one has the right to the service of another person.

The air is a privilege, a service, not a right.

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DareYokel

Where the hell do you think the money for all these dumbass's health care came from?

 

The taxpayers.

So what? That's what taxes are for you nimrod. The entire point of taxes is to help run the damn country. No country can function properly if its citizens are sick and poor. The entire country suffers when citizens are denied healthcare. It's a long term investment. When people don't have to worry about being able to afford healthcare they can focus on other things like finding a job and being a productive member of society. This is elementary school stuff for f*ck sake. Even if you're 15 there's no excuse for not knowing this. Good lord you're so f*ckin' dumb.

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AlienTwo

 

 

 

You just described Trump's entire base. Yeah, it's your mentality we don't want in the White House.

 

 

Thank God I'm not running for president. It's a shame the uneducated, racist and ignorant voters get helped by a corrupt and obviously broken system to allow their fear and stupidity to elect not only our current pres, but all of those idiots in both houses of Congress.

 

"Healthcare isn't a right, and shouldn't be, but don't you dare try to legislate any rules regarding my "right" to own a gun."

 

The last 8 years truly felt like we as a nation were beginning to make some progress on the "humanity" level, but it's all being backsided now. You and your people are the reason Americans have such a bad rep abroad, and it's well deserved. I'm sad that somehow your brain disease isn't going to die with your generation as you've infected the youth with this terrible affliction that is going yo continue to hold back not just our once-great nation from positive growth, but the entire species. As a leading country we have a responsibility to lead in science, in social development.

 

But no. You and your ilk cling to your guns and your religion. Sad artifacts of a past we need desperately to leave behind us.

 

Boo to you, fool. Boo.

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ten-a-penny

The taxpayers.

Just like every-f*cking-thing that gets inside a country.

 

Who pays for good education come from? Taxpayers.

Who pays for the Healthcare? Taxpayers.Taxpayers.

Who pays for proper roads? Taxpayers.

Who pays for military supplies? Taxpayers.

Who pays for insurance? Taxpayers, albeit in a different way.

Who gives the government the money they need to pay people who have public work (i.e public schools)? Taxpayers.

 

Almost everything is payed by Taxpayers' money. Point being?

 

I'm still waiting for an explanation of why you think it's reasonable to spend taxpayer's money on roads but not on healthcare.

I think its obvious sir. Only a shemale would support something that helps the needy. How dare you be a human and help people who need actual help? No! Guns are more important than a measly life! /s

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ULPaperContact

I'm still waiting for an explanation of why you think it's reasonable to spend taxpayer's money on roads but not on healthcare. I'm fine with taxes going towards keeping hospitals repaired and clean, but NOT willing to pay for some idiot on welfare's hospital bills. That's not my job, pay for your own damn bills.

 

 

 

 

 

The air is a privilege, a service not a right. Awful analogy. You don't have to pay for air (unless the air goes away, but that's a whole different problem in itself).

 

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sivispacem

I'm fine with taxes going towards keeping hospitals repaired and clean, but NOT willing to pay for some idiot on welfare's hospital bills. That's not my job, pay for your own damn bills.

So you're happy that send tax money keeping hospital buildings standing, but not to provide lifesaving care. Right-o.

 

Let me pose a hypothetical question. Suppose a John Doe is admitted to the emergency room with a gunshot wound. He's got no wallet, ID, or any information which allows a hospital to determine whether or not he can pay for the medical care required to save his life. In your loony bin world, how is this addressed? Do they just not treat him unless they can establish the balance of his bank account?

 

Moreover, what gives you the right to decide whether someone deserves medical treatment based solely upon their financial situation?

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ULPaperContact

 

I'm fine with taxes going towards keeping hospitals repaired and clean, but NOT willing to pay for some idiot on welfare's hospital bills. That's not my job, pay for your own damn bills.

So you're happy that send tax money keeping hospital buildings secure, but not to provide lifesaving care. Right-o.

 

Let me pose a hypothetical question. Suppose a John Doe is admitted to the emergency room with a gunshot wound. He's got no wallet, ID, or any information which allows a hospital to determine whether or not he can pay for the medical care required to save his life. In your loony bin world, how is this addressed? Do they just not treat him unless they can establish the balance of his bank account? Up to the hospital's policies.

 

Moreover, what gives you the right to decide whether someone deserves medical treatment based solely upon their financial situation? I don't. I'm just saying I'm not paying for it.

 

 

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sivispacem

Up to the hospital's policies.

Well that's a cop-out. Let's try another. You claim to be a vet, presumably you also resent your tax dollars being spent on veteran's care and services, including medical support? Or are you just a collossal hypocrite who thinks that tax should only be used to fund services he uses or causes he supports?

 

I don't. I'm just saying I'm not paying for it

You are saying just that, though. You're literally saying "the lives of people who require urgent medical care but cannot pay for it are not worth me paying tax for", which is utterly absurd.

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ten-a-penny

So poor people who work their asses off and STILL fail to cover everything up should f*ck off, 'not mah business'. Got it.

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El Dildo

I'm fine with taxes going towards keeping hospitals repaired and clean, but NOT willing to pay for some idiot on welfare's hospital bills. That's not my job, pay for your own damn bills.

so you're cool with paying taxes to repair and clean a hospital building but you're not cool with paying taxes to help provide care for the people inside of that building? this literally doesn't make sense. why would you pay for the building but not contribute anything to the care it provides? your beliefs are illogical at best and make you sound retarded at worst.

 

you realize that your taxes go to pay for all kinds of services that you probably don't agree with. this is how society works. this is how government works. I have to pay for all kinds of jets and tanks and bullets and bombs and wars that I don't agree with. why is health care any less important than defense spending? once again your beliefs are irrational at best and make you sound pretty goddamn ignorant at worst.

 

if we use your logic, then a child born with cancer is an "idiot on welfare" because you will have to help pay this child's hospital bills.

 

you're a f/cking moron

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DareYokel

 

I'm fine with taxes going towards keeping hospitals repaired and clean, but NOT willing to pay for some idiot on welfare's hospital bills. That's not my job, pay for your own damn bills.

so you're cool with paying taxes to repair and clean a hospital building but you're not cool with paying taxes to help provide care for the people inside of that building? this literally doesn't make sense. why would you pay for the building but not contribute anything to the care it provides? your beliefs are illogical at best and make you sound retarded at worst.

 

you realize that your taxes go to pay for all kinds of services that you probably don't agree with. this is how society works. this is how government works. I have to pay for all kinds of jets and tanks and bullets and bombs and wars that I don't agree with. why is health care any less important than defense spending? once again your beliefs are irrational at best and make you sound pretty goddamn ignorant at worst.

 

if we use your logic, then a child born with cancer is an "idiot on welfare" because you will have to help pay this child's hospital bills.

 

you're a f/cking moron

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I bet that he's pro-life too.

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ten-a-penny

How could you possibly be Pro-Life when you're anti-AnythingThatSavesHumanLives? OR is dat unborn fetus is more important than a BORN human?

 

Hist: I;m not even Pro-Choice.

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ULPaperContact

 

 

 

 

 

Well that's a cop-out. Let's try another. You claim to be a vet, presumably you also resent your tax dollars being spent on veteran's care and services, including medical support? Or are you just a collossal hypocrite who thinks that tax should only be used to fund services he uses or causes he supports? Same thing stands. Everyone should pay for their own healthcare (unless family/friends pay).

 

 

You are saying just that, though. You're literally saying "the lives of people who require urgent medical care but cannot pay for it are not worth me paying tax for", which is utterly absurd. It's not, though. You just can't stand that someone doesn't want to pay for other people's hospital bills.

 

 

 

So poor people who work their asses off and STILL fail to cover everything up should f*ck off, 'not mah business'. Got it. I'm not paying for anyone else's things. Call me immoral, but it's not my job and you can't say it is.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I bet that he's pro-life too. No, actually. That's the main thing I disagree on with conservatives.

 

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ten-a-penny

I'm not paying for anyone else's things. Call me immoral, but it's not my job and you can't say it is.

So its not your job to be human. Whatcha doing here then? The "strong eats the weak" mentality exist in forests, not here. Shoo!

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sivispacem

Same thing stands. Everyone should pay for their own healthcare (unless family/friends pay).

You still haven't really explained what you think should happen to people who simply can't pay? Instead we've got a cop-out answer about it being up to medical organisations.

 

Why should it be the individual's job to pay for healthcare? What's wrong with a healthcare system which treats people equally rather than basing the quality of care on the wealth of the recipient? Does such a system actually have any tangible benefits? Seems to me like you're doggedly supporting ideas you don't really understand for no reason other than incredibly petty financial objections and the totally ridiculous notion that any kind of government spending that doesn't directly benefit you should be abolished.

 

Not to labour the point again, but why should the government pay for roads and not healthcare?

 

It's not, though. You just can't stand that someone doesn't want to pay for other people

It is. Just because you've convinced yourself it isn't to help yourself sleep better at night doesn't mean you're actually right. You literally said "I resent taxes being spent on lifesaving medical care"- that's you claiming an extra few bucks a month in your pocket has more intrinsic value that someone's life.

 

I find the entire concept of pay-to-use healthcare utterly baffling to be honest. Frankly I think it's a vile, prejudicial system that treads awfully close to discriminatory and certainly doesn't promote the concept of equality in the value of human life. I'm more amused by your solo mentality, unwillingness to actually engage in discussion of the salient points and circular logic than anything else.

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El Dildo

Call me immoral

ok.

you're an immoral asshole whose worldview is severely misinformed, out of touch with reality, and more in line with Medieval Serfdom than the modern society whose creature comforts you reap while sh/tting on poor people.

 

you're the kind of person who only understands empathy after it happens to them (AKA a douchebag).

I hope you get hit by a bus and require exorbitant medical bills that spiral out of control and leave you wondering how you're going to pay.

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AlienTwo

All those sick babies better get jobs because I'm not paying fot their

health care. They have poor parents and obviously deserve to die.

 

Don't touch my guns.

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ULPaperContact

All those sick babies better get jobs because I'm not paying fot their

health care. They have poor parents and obviously deserve to die. Maybe you shouldn't be having kids if you can't afford them.

 

Don't touch my guns. You can have them, one bullet at a time.

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AlienTwo

A bullet isn't part of a gun.

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ULPaperContact

A bullet isn't part of a gun. It's the second half of a gun's functionality. I think you get the point.

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AlienTwo

I get the point in that you know nothing about anything that you blab about. You have no empathy and you seem to be a very angry person, and you think if the world isn't angry with you, you'll do your damndest to bring them down to your level, babies included.

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El Dildo

we're arguing with a dinosaur who can't even figure out how to properly use the quote system.

 

this schtick has run its course.

the guy thinks that children who are born sick shouldn't be born to parents who can't afford their hospital bills.

 

this is beyond illogical.

it's negative logic. this guy is either trolling or he's one of the more unintelligent people to ever represent Conservatives on this forum. there's literally no other explanation.

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ten-a-penny

 

Maybe you shouldn't be having kids if you can't afford them.

"Oh, so you got raped by a degenerate and can't Abort the UNWANTED child? F*ck you, no healthcare for you." - You.

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