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Donatello

Was Obama a good president?

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TheFranchise

Obama cannot be VP.

There's actually no law preventing this according to my political science professor.

Obama was a good President. Even if you didn't like his politics, he was always classy, calm, and was and still is a great honest guy. He is a fine example of a steady hand. Unlike Trump who has daily meltdowns on twitter like a 10 year old, attacks the media and his enemies in absurdly petty fashion, Obama was calm, collected, and respectful. I miss him, and considering his surging poll numbers as he left office, I'm sure much of America does too.

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Svip

 

Obama cannot be VP.

There's actually no law preventing this according to my political science professor.

 

A two term President being elected Vice President would most definitely be contested, given the rules established by the 12th, 22nd and 25th amendments. The 12th amendment makes it clear that no person who is not qualified to be President can be Vice President. In other words, all requirements that apply to the Presidency also applies to the Vice Presidency.

 

The 22nd amendment says no one can be President or Acting President for more than 10 years, or be re-elected if their next term would allow them to sit out more than 10 years. And the 25th amendment makes it clear that upon removal of the President from office, the Vice President becomes the President.

 

While some argue that the 12th amendment deals with service, whereas the 22nd amendment deals with elections, I am not sure that argument would stand in the US Supreme Court. It is quite clear that the framers of the 22nd and 25th amendments meant for the same restrictions to apply to the Vice President, but given the 12th amendment's language didn't see the need to include that explicitly.

 

But we will probably never know, as the issue is unlikely to actually occur. Due to these amendments, no one will actually attempt it. So in practical terms, my statement still stands.

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countrymike84

He was not a great president at all.Trump has been keeping his promises and promotes his own supporters like me and a few on this forum. I lurk but had to give Trump some props. #MAGA

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El Dildo

Trump has been keeping his promises

such as

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Inttelix

I think Obama was America's golden president. Trump is a George Bush 2001 remake.

 

Really hope that America gives him another shot sometime around. Pretty sure his goverment will have less flaws, and less massacres-per-week.

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ten-a-penny

I think Obama was America's golden president. Trump is a George Bush 2001 remake.

 

Really hope that America gives him another shot sometime around. Pretty sure his goverment will have less flaws, and less massacres-per-week.

Holy Necro-Batman!

 

But yes, I agree.

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mr quick

I mean, lots of civilians would still be massacred in other countries due to american foreign policy, interventionism and imperialism, but they're not white americans so who cares LOL

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cj2000

I think Obama was America's golden president. Trump is a George Bush 2001 remake.

 

Really hope that America gives him another shot sometime around. Pretty sure his goverment will have less flaws, and less massacres-per-week.

Nice joke, if tallking about golden president, Kenedy or Rusevelt could feat, if going more in history Lincoln, but defenetly not Obama.

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ThatBenGuy

Barack Obama? A good President? Are you legit asking a question or just telling a joke? If the first is the case, the answer is f*ck no! He only wanted black vs. white racial tension to be even worse than it already has been for years! He, alongside his VP Joe Biden and the Russian Mafia, tried to get Hillary Clinton in office. He thinks America are the “bad guys” and wants to bankrupt them. He is a socialist, he’s very anti-gun, and he is nowhere near a patriot! 

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Doctor Holliday

Is racial tension what he "wanted" or is that simply what resulted as Right-wing Conservatives overreacted to his skin color and middle name?

 

How did Hillary Clinton lose the election if the entire Obama government including Russia was working on her behalf?

 

If he thinks America is so "bad," then why did he write an entire book about his family history traveling to the United States and how important the American dream was to his identity as both a man and a politician? If he wanted the country to go bankrupt, then why did he pass a massive stimulus package and multiple jobs bills that turned around the economy and got us out of the 2008 recession?

 

If he's so "anti-gun," then why did he never pass any legislation restricting gun rights?

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sivispacem
4 hours ago, ThatBenGuy said:

He is a socialist

The opinion of anyone who looks at Ivana and says "socialist" should, in my view, be immediately disregarded as they evidently don't know anything about Socialism.

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Short Stay

He certainly talked well and generally allowed very many people to feel good about themselves by liking him and affirming their own world view. As to anything outwith these traits, only history will tell.

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Dealux

He was about as good a president as you can get. All presidents pander to one side or the other. At least Obama was a smart guy and he was pretty honest. Trump is basically the opposite of that.

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