The Last of Us Part II

[shadyslady]

2 hours ago, Chuck said:

Stopped reading exactly here

...clearly, it was for the best 

 

a Chuck Kojima post.

Good, then you know what's on. If you don't agree with their criticism, which I do. 

Then you ain't making sense to me. 

They got long videos about the game. Instead of a meaningless sentence "it's the best game ever" without even mentioning arguments. 

And that "stopped reading here" is infantile and ignorant

[The Tracker]

4 hours ago, shadyslady said:

The pacing and rinse and repeat settle the camp and move again was tiresome. 

 

Those sequences were very far and between in the story to sum it up as the whole "pacing"

 

 

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You had a whole camp yet you were the line wolf and what is it now? The world is huge and all these time consuming camp obligations were tedious. 

 

You literally didn't have to do any camp obligation, if you wanted to do them, well, that's your problem.

 

 

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The same characters as in previous rockstar games. 

 

Well it's a prequel, duh. Also, the amount of returning characters is almost insignificant when you compare it to the cast of new characters.

 

[Grichka Bogdanoff]

45 minutes ago, shadyslady said:

Good, then you know what's on. If you don't agree with their criticism, which I do. 

Then you ain't making sense to me. 

They got long videos about the game. Instead of a meaningless sentence "it's the best game ever" without even mentioning arguments. 

I'm sure I know less than a person that has only watched biased videos about it, lel. By the same person who rated CP77 purely because of his hype then backtracked hard when people realized how bad it was, even

...not as I've argumented in the previous pages in this very thread ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

 

45 minutes ago, shadyslady said:

And that "stopped reading here" is infantile and ignorant

Sounds like you're projecting now 

 

a Chuck Kojima post.

[shadyslady]

2 hours ago, The Tracker said:

 

Those sequences were very far and between in the story to sum it up as the whole "pacing"

 

 

 

You literally didn't have to do any camp obligation, if you wanted to do them, well, that's your problem.

 

 

 

Well it's a prequel, duh. Also, the amount of returning characters is almost insignificant when you compare it to the cast of new characters.

 

Rdr 2 is dead. You still play it? Anything new or is Arthur still dead. 

Same characters as in the lost and damned, not RDR

[shadyslady]

2 hours ago, Chuck said:

I'm sure I know less than a person that has only watched biased videos about it, lel. By the same person who rated CP77 purely because of his hype then backtracked hard when people realized how bad it was, even

...not as I've argumented in the previous pages in this very thread ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

 

Sounds like you're projecting now 

 

a Chuck Kojima post.

I only read what you said when quoting me. 

That's when I gave my two cents about tlou 2.

Of course I watch critics and inform myself before buying. 

That's one of the best things about present day. 

Why should I support a company, give them my money when they dish out a piece of crap like Tlou2? 

Well if it's the best game in your opinion good for you. 

It's really depressing. 

Now these reviews go really in depth and the yongyea one literally is full of spoilers and I don't like anything about Tlou2's content. 

And apart from him, Mannix, Angry Joe are not paid to go against it. 

They are gamers like me and no corporate fat cats lying to the public. 

Neil Druckman used false advertising implying we get to play a joel and ellie adventure when in fact it was something else. 

 

[Grichka Bogdanoff]

people: critics aren't trustworthy! they're either paid, fell into the hype or get carried around by the general public opinion! public critics can also review bomb review aggregator websites

also people: i trust critics and your game is sh*t even if i didnt play it lol soz

 

a Chuck Kojima post.

[Corndawg93]

This argument again???, why

[shadyslady]

4 hours ago, Corndawg93 said:

This argument again???, why

There is none. Apart from you saying my opinion on Rdr 2 and Tlou 2 is wrong. 

When they exactly right because this is how I perceived the games. 

I played Tlou 1 and even platinumed it. 

After the major downgrade from gta 4 to gta 5, and RDR 1 to RDR2 it was only the right thing to check reviews before buying. 

How can games be topped, when they already perfect. 

If someone says TLOU 2 is better than the first game, they got a bad taste. 

The newer games look more beautiful. Gta V, RDR 2, TLOU2, but content wise they're all a major downstep. 

Newer games don't automatically mean the better game

[LittleJesus]

Red Dead Redemption II & The Last of Us Part II are the best pieces of art of this generation both on story and inmersive gameplay.

[The Tracker]

On 5/3/2021 at 4:29 AM, shadyslady said:

They're not. My opinion is right. You are wrong. 

The last of us 2 and RDR 2 are sequels to perfect games that added nothing to the franchise. 

Saying these games are the best ever made is wrong or better yet, goes to show you have a really bad taste

 

And the award to the most entitled user in the forum goes tooo...

[Badman_]

RDR2 is one of the finest games of this generation, both on story and immersion. 

 

TLOU2... not so much, but it is an impressive technical achievement, I'll give you that.

[Algonquin Assassin]

On 5/4/2021 at 2:30 PM, TheJesus1996 said:

Red Dead Redemption II & The Last of Us Part II are the best pieces of art of this generation both on story and inmersive gameplay.

 

Indeed.

 

I’m on my second play through of part 2, but I’m taking my time this time around and exploring every nook and cranny. Look how vast and expansive the environments are.

[LittleJesus]

2 hours ago, Algonquin Assassin said:

 

Indeed.

 

I’m on my second play through of part 2, but I’m taking my time this time around and exploring every nook and cranny. Look how vast and expansive the environments are.

 

I already beat the game three times, every single run made me appreciate the story even more + that smooth and satisfying gameplay.

[Is this The Guy?]

I played through TLoU part 2 so many times already on almost every difficulty( never tried the hardest difficulty yet)

 

The unlimited ammo and crafting supplies gave it way more replay ability as well so now I can jump back and forth between survival horror and full blown shoot everything if I want.

[Grichka Bogdanoff]

 

[LittleJesus]

47 minutes ago, Chuck said:

 

 

Amazing! Reserving my grounded playthrough whenever I get my hands on a PS5 lol

[GTAJip]

Great! I'm wondering if we will get a new TLOU2 for PS5, because we now essentially got 60fps, faster loading times and an enhanced resolution. What are they able to improve to justify a re-release for PS5. Would be really great if it's just free as we are getting now. 

[The Tracker]

20 hours ago, Chuck said:

 

 

Hope we get one for Uncharted 4 as well. 

[Corndawg93]

I was hoping a next gen patch, but my mate still has my copy

[InTheSun10]

This game was so good! It played with emotions so much, it’s crazy. It was really well made!

[DODI3OG]

5 hours ago, InTheSun10 said:

This game was so good! It played with emotions so much, it’s crazy. It was really well made!

TBH, I bought this game because of Abby. I was spoiled last year by some Youtube videos of 

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Joel's death

 

At first I though: f*ck it, I'm not buying this game. I bought it for my 24th birthday this September. I thought to myself I'd give Abby the benefit of the doubt, and I was really touched by the experience. I was left wanting more. A week after I finished the game, I was just feeling sad and wondering what's next for Ellie.

 

TheLastOfUs reddit didn't help for me. Graphics are really good. I'm looking forward on playing this game again when I get a PS5. I hope they implement Ray Tracing through a patch. The lighting really helps in this game, especially while using flashlights, out in the sunlight, or under rain.

 

The lighting already look realistic. Imagine if there's Ray Tracing.

[GTA5201015]

Finished it last week. Enjoyed it for the most part.

 

The gameplay was solid. The physics, animations, sound design, graphics and level design were all well done. Lots of tactical freedom and intense moments. Overall enjoyed the gameplay more in this game compared to the first. More enemy variety would've helped though considering the type of game it is and the length of it. I took my time with the scavenging and exploration, so it bothered me how long it took to get to Abby, then go back to Ellie. It's like having a cliffhanger at the end of a season finale. Disliked the gee-tar mini game. Just play the song/cutscene already. This isn't Gitaroo Man, man.

 

As for the story, I liked it but I do have some criticisms. Not really revealing spoilers for this, but here I go:

I felt like Abby and Ellie should've had more of a dialogue. I would've liked for them to explain their motives more to one another.

Not a fan of Ellie's actions after the confrontation.

The side characters needed more character development. I didn't care for them much in the end. Cared more for the main characters' reactions to the situations.

 

Side notes with spoilers:

 

My probably divisive opinion of Joel:

Spoiler

He deserved it. Joel was a well made character who a lot of players cared for, including myself. But his actions at the end of Part 1 warranted the death penalty by Abby. Not just because he killed her father, but because he condemned millions of people to death all for one girl. A girl who was willing to make the sacrifice. I did get the feels though at the end of the hoe-down cutscene, because that's one of the last memories you wouldn't want to have of a friend/father figure right before seeing them die the next day. Joel, I love ya' man, but you deserved a hole-in-one.

 

About Ellie:

Spoiler

Didn't like how she turned out to be the bad guy towards the end. One person said that the devs robbed the players of a revenge they wanted. Well, I didn't. With my opinion of Joel combined with getting to know Abby, I thought Ellie should've just walked away. Abby let Ellie live TWICE. Sparred pregnant Dina too, after Ellie killed Abby's pregnant friend, Mel. Then Ellie threatens to kill a kid (Lev) after Abby refused to fight. A kid who talked Abby out of killing Dina. Ellie's K/D ratio was higher than Abby's. Then you combined that with Joel's... The only thing that I would say that justifies some of Ellie's actions is that she kept going after Abby to get rid of the trauma.

 

Edited November 2, 2021 by GTA5201015

[DODI3OG]

On 11/2/2021 at 4:05 PM, GTA5201015 said:

Finished it last week. Enjoyed it for the most part.

 

The gameplay was solid. The physics, animations, sound design, graphics and level design were all well done. Lots of tactical freedom and intense moments. Overall enjoyed the gameplay more in this game compared to the first. More enemy variety would've helped though considering the type of game it is and the length of it. I took my time with the scavenging and exploration, so it bothered me how long it took to get to Abby, then go back to Ellie. It's like having a cliffhanger at the end of a season finale. Disliked the gee-tar mini game. Just play the song/cutscene already. This isn't Gitaroo Man, man.

 

As for the story, I liked it but I do have some criticisms. Not really revealing spoilers for this, but here I go:

I felt like Abby and Ellie should've had more of a dialogue. I would've liked for them to explain their motives more to one another.

Not a fan of Ellie's actions after the confrontation.

The side characters needed more character development. I didn't care for them much in the end. Cared more for the main characters' reactions to the situations.

 

Side notes with spoilers:

 

My probably divisive opinion of Joel:

  Reveal hidden contents

He deserved it. Joel was a well made character who a lot of players cared for, including myself. But his actions at the end of Part 1 warranted the death penalty by Abby. Not just because he killed her father, but because he condemned millions of people to death all for one girl. A girl who was willing to make the sacrifice. I did get the feels though at the end of the hoe-down cutscene, because that's one of the last memories you wouldn't want to have of a friend/father figure right before seeing them die the next day. Joel, I love ya' man, but you deserved a hole-in-one.

 

About Ellie:

  Reveal hidden contents

Didn't like how she turned out to be the bad guy towards the end. One person said that the devs robbed the players of a revenge they wanted. Well, I didn't. With my opinion of Joel combined with getting to know Abby, I thought Ellie should've just walked away. Abby let Ellie live TWICE. Sparred pregnant Dina too, after Ellie killed Abby's pregnant friend, Mel. Then Ellie threatens to kill a kid (Lev) after Abby refused to fight. A kid who talked Abby out of killing Dina. Ellie's K/D ratio was higher than Abby's. Then you combined that with Joel's... The only thing that I would say that justifies some of Ellie's actions is that she kept going after Abby to get rid of the trauma.

 

 

On 11/2/2021 at 4:05 PM, GTA5201015 said:

Finished it last week. Enjoyed it for the most part.

 

The gameplay was solid. The physics, animations, sound design, graphics and level design were all well done. Lots of tactical freedom and intense moments. Overall enjoyed the gameplay more in this game compared to the first. More enemy variety would've helped though considering the type of game it is and the length of it. I took my time with the scavenging and exploration, so it bothered me how long it took to get to Abby, then go back to Ellie. It's like having a cliffhanger at the end of a season finale. Disliked the gee-tar mini game. Just play the song/cutscene already. This isn't Gitaroo Man, man.

 

As for the story, I liked it but I do have some criticisms. Not really revealing spoilers for this, but here I go:

I felt like Abby and Ellie should've had more of a dialogue. I would've liked for them to explain their motives more to one another.

Not a fan of Ellie's actions after the confrontation.

The side characters needed more character development. I didn't care for them much in the end. Cared more for the main characters' reactions to the situations.

 

Side notes with spoilers:

 

My probably divisive opinion of Joel:

  Hide contents

He deserved it. Joel was a well made character who a lot of players cared for, including myself. But his actions at the end of Part 1 warranted the death penalty by Abby. Not just because he killed her father, but because he condemned millions of people to death all for one girl. A girl who was willing to make the sacrifice. I did get the feels though at the end of the hoe-down cutscene, because that's one of the last memories you wouldn't want to have of a friend/father figure right before seeing them die the next day. Joel, I love ya' man, but you deserved a hole-in-one.

 

About Ellie:

  Reveal hidden contents

Didn't like how she turned out to be the bad guy towards the end. One person said that the devs robbed the players of a revenge they wanted. Well, I didn't. With my opinion of Joel combined with getting to know Abby, I thought Ellie should've just walked away. Abby let Ellie live TWICE. Sparred pregnant Dina too, after Ellie killed Abby's pregnant friend, Mel. Then Ellie threatens to kill a kid (Lev) after Abby refused to fight. A kid who talked Abby out of killing Dina. Ellie's K/D ratio was higher than Abby's. Then you combined that with Joel's... The only thing that I would say that justifies some of Ellie's actions is that she kept going after Abby to get rid of the trauma.

 

After playing Part 1 for the first time in 2014. I also thought Joel really had it coming to him. I wasn't surprised that

Spoiler

he'd die

Even after I saw the leaks.

 

Spoiler

He had it coming. Although, I was deeply saddened by his death, especially the way they delivered the flashbacks and other tear-inducing scenes. Lots of people hat on Abby simply because she killed Joel.

I'd understand my 8-year old niece hating on Abby, simply because she killed Joel. She's an 8-year-old after all, but there are people old enough who blindly hate on Abby and call her out on her appearance and stuff.

 

IMO, Abby was just as good of a character as Joel.