not transparent passive mode

[jpm1]

this is something i've been wondering recently. why GTA should be a PvP game. why people that don't play PvP should be transparent. your thoughts

[Jammsbro]

Always wanted it. But in fairness, unless players who are in passive had some sort of indicator that they can't use weapons it would be easier for them to get the drop on players not in passive.

[REXX]

Might want to jump back to LG, OP.

[normanself]

For Rockstar Editor purposes yes.

[Dacelo]

No, I don't want passive toggling to get abused even further. Imagine trying to snipe a jet out of the air and thinking you're just missing until you realise he was actually in passive the whole time with no indication.

[-LN-]

I think dedicated lobby types would be a better idea. You could essentially have three: PvP (no passive allowed at all and fighting encouraged), PvE (you cannot kill other players directly with weapons or armed vehicles, but accidental deaths can happen), and mixed (current state, but with longer cool off times with jumping in and out of passive and the inability to enter passive whilst in armed vehicles).

 

Something like this would solve most of the issues with free roam and it wouldn't turn every free roam session into a frustrating clusterf*ck of an experience.

Edited December 3, 2016 by -LN-

[KingpinRCR]

I would love this, the ghostly look annoys me big time. Why can't it be like in non-contact races? (Not transparant until you get close)

Always wanted it. But in fairness, unless players who are in passive had some sort of indicator that they can't use weapons it would be easier for them to get the drop on players not in passive.

You mean something like a blip on the map that indicates wich player is passive and wich is not? Oh, wait... it's already like that...

[Cratoz]

You mean something like a blip on the map that indicates wich player is passive and wich is not? Oh, wait... it's already like that...

It's also not like that it bugged quite a bit and often shows passive players with a normal blip.

[Pedinhuh]

Jump back to Last Gen and you will have, hope you also enjoy being much more vulnerable on it.

[joel15cat]

I want no passive mode in vehicles.

I want no passive mode available in yacht during piracy prevention.

Well, in fact, i don't want passive mode. Delete this!

[.Vooodu.]

I think dedicated lobby types would be a better idea. You could essentially have three: PvP (no passive allowed at all and fighting encouraged), PvE (you cannot kill other players directly with weapons or armed vehicles, but accidental deaths can happen), and mixed (current state, but with longer cool off times with jumping in and out of passive and the inability to enter passive whilst in armed vehicles).

 

Something like this would solve most of the issues with free roam and it wouldn't turn every free roam session into a frustrating clusterf*ck of an experience.

 

Because thats how it should have been in the 1st place. Instead of what the hell we ended up with.

 

As it should have been.

 

Normal = ALL AIM TYPES with always on blips.

 

Friendly = ALL AIM TYPES with always on blips. Cannot harm other players

 

Hardcore = Free aim ONLY with blips that function as pvp modes blips work.

Edited December 3, 2016 by .Vooodu.

[ash-274]

I want no passive mode in vehicles.

Go play on PS3 or XB360

 

I want no passive mode available in yacht during piracy prevention.

Not an issue on old-gen consoles as there aren't yachts ^{(excluding the one in the Coke setup job for Series A)}

 

Well, in fact, i don't want passive mode. Delete this!

Stay in modes other than Race, Stunt Race, Parachuting, Survival, and also out of freeroam.

 

Problems solved

[joel15cat]

 

I want no passive mode in vehicles.

Go play on PS3 or XB360

 

I want no passive mode available in yacht during piracy prevention.

Not an issue on old-gen consoles as there aren't yachts ^{(excluding the one in the Coke setup job for Series A)}

 

Well, in fact, i don't want passive mode. Delete this!

Stay in modes other than Race, Stunt Race, Parachuting, Survival, and also out of freeroam.

 

Problems solved

 

 

That shows that you don't play to much in a free mode. I love playing VIP Jobs and biker jobs, and you can't even imagine the number of people who abuse the passive mode... It is really stupid not to be able to use the passive mode in a Swift Deluxe, but you can activate passive mode in a lazer or tank, vehicles that are in game to kill other players. And now that they are including so many new functions to free mode (VIP, CEO, BIKERS, EXPORT / IMPORT...) makes the passive mode a feature that annoys those who play this. Do you imagine a passive mode in The Division? Absurd, right? Well here I think the same.

[The Wandering Hunter]

dedicated lobbies would be better

and remove auto aim *incoming bitching*

[ash-274]

 

 

I want no passive mode in vehicles.

Go play on PS3 or XB360

 

I want no passive mode available in yacht during piracy prevention.

Not an issue on old-gen consoles as there aren't yachts ^{(excluding the one in the Coke setup job for Series A)}

 

Well, in fact, i don't want passive mode. Delete this!

Stay in modes other than Race, Stunt Race, Parachuting, Survival, and also out of freeroam.

 

Problems solved

 

 

That shows that you don't play to much in a free mode. I love playing VIP Jobs and biker jobs, and you can't even imagine the number of people who abuse the passive mode... It is really stupid not to be able to use the passive mode in a Swift Deluxe, but you can activate passive mode in a lazer or tank, vehicles that are in game to kill other players. And now that they are including so many new functions to free mode (VIP, CEO, BIKERS, EXPORT / IMPORT...) makes the passive mode a feature that annoys those who play this. Do you imagine a passive mode in The Division? Absurd, right? Well here I think the same.

Being passive in a T20 isn't a problem, being passive in a Hydra can be, but you directed that at all vehicles. You also want to eliminate the mode because a few people abuse it? Make it better, instead:

• Longer timer after dropping Passive (10 minutes and continues while offline and if you change sessions)
• If you kill a player you can't go passive for 5 minutes, no matter how long ago you dropped it.
• No passive in armed vehicles
• You can fight non-players while in passive (since cops and gang members can always shoot you)
• Killing players while in passive mode (it's still possible) does not count toward K/D
• Other constructive ideas

Edited December 3, 2016 by ash-274

[Cratoz]

I think it should be like this:

 

- No passive in armed vehicles.

- Fix the blips!

- if you deactivate passive mode your character and blip will be solid and become killable instantly but you will not be able to use weapons for 20 seconds, also if you're in a vehicle

- Vehicles will remain in passive mode until the timer is down so you can't run over anyone when deactivating passive mode while approacing someone

- If you enter a Yachts that is not yours or your friends/crew members you will be kicked out of passive mode (actually give the Yacht owner the feature to set this up)

 

It would eliminate the passive mode abuse almost completely.

Edited December 3, 2016 by Cratoz

[JON22]

I miss climbing up and down a ledge in non-ghost passive mode while a guy I pissed off tries in vain to run me over in his super, because he was after a crate T-shirt but I killed him just as he was about to parachute on top of the crate, and I took it instead, and now I'm wearing it as he tries to run me over

[ciel]

Nah. That sh*t can stay on last gen only.

[KingpinRCR]

It's also not like that it bugged quite a bit and often shows passive players with a normal blip.

True, but isn't that the case for so many things in gtao? The feature is there, it's just a littlebit broken.

 

You also want to eliminate the mode because a few people abuse it? Make it better, instead:

• Longer timer after dropping Passive (10 minutes and continues while offline and if you change sessions)
• If you kill a player you can't go passive for 5 minutes, no matter how long ago you dropped it.
• No passive in armed vehicles
• You can fight non-players while in passive (since cops and gang members can always shoot you)
• Killing players while in passive mode (it's still possible) does not count toward K/D
• Other constructive ideas

"No passive in armoured vehicles" becomes redundant with those other 'rules' (for lack of knowing a better word for it). What's the difference between being armed on foot or being armed in a vehicle?

 

Edit: I agree with the rest of your 'rules' though...

Edited December 3, 2016 by KingpinRCR

[Rewdalf]

I've actually found out that if you and a friend go passive, then start an impromptu race, you're solid for each other but not other players.

 

Not sure if that helps, but makes for some fun time screwing around without other players bothering you.

[ash-274]

 

It's also not like that it bugged quite a bit and often shows passive players with a normal blip.

True, but isn't that the case for so many things in gtao? The feature is there, it's just a littlebit broken.

 

You also want to eliminate the mode because a few people abuse it? Make it better, instead:

• Longer timer after dropping Passive (10 minutes and continues while offline and if you change sessions)
• If you kill a player you can't go passive for 5 minutes, no matter how long ago you dropped it.
• No passive in armed vehicles
• You can fight non-players while in passive (since cops and gang members can always shoot you)
• Killing players while in passive mode (it's still possible) does not count toward K/D
• Other constructive ideas

"No passive in armoured vehicles" becomes redundant with those other 'rules' (for lack of knowing a better word for it). What's the difference between being armed on foot or being armed in a vehicle?

 

Edit: I agree with the rest of your 'rules' though...

 

Rules/suggestions/whatever.

 

Let's say Squeeker VonDuchebag gets in his Hydra and takes off. You're going up a hill in your meth-filled PostOP van (at 5 km/hr) and you see Squeeker coming on the radar. You bail out of the van and take cover and Squeeker empties missiles into the van, vaporizing your meth. You're not dead, just enraged and poorer he can still go passive at this point with all the other suggestions in place.

[KingpinRCR]

^

I agree, but can't he do the same with a car? Races up the hill with is chrome super, throws a sticky and races away. I'm sorry, but I fail to see the difference...

 

(Oh, and 'suggestions' are indeed a more apropriate word than 'rules', thank you for enlightening me)

[Nick1020]

All they have to do is increase the time limit when going back to passive mode. Like say a 5-10 minute increase. And when coming out of passive, a 1 or 2 minute time period where you can't attack.

[Pedinhuh]

^

I agree, but can't he do the same with a car? Races up the hill with is chrome super, throws a sticky and races away. I'm sorry, but I fail to see the difference...

 

(Oh, and 'suggestions' are indeed a more apropriate word than 'rules', thank you for enlightening me)

It's mostly a matter of principle, an armed vehicle that can have it's weapons operated by the driver does NOT needs passive mode, period.

 

It also open up the possibility of griefing any player who can't defend theirselves against these vehicles, and don't let them fight you back by destroying your vehicle. And that not only is not balanced, but it's also not f*cking fair either.

[ash-274]

All they have to do is increase the time limit when going back to passive mode. Like say a 5-10 minute increase. And when coming out of passive, a 1 or 2 minute time period where you can't attack.

That is extreme, unless they let us use weapons against non-players.

It would suck bailing out of an aircraft just to get a wanted level and a PO'ed gang (when your plane crashes in gang territory) and you can't defend yourself, on foot, for more than the time period now.

[KingpinRCR]

Perhaps. Maybe I don't understand your logic because I don't do such stuff. I have a buzzard because it's fast and agile and only use it to travel fast and in missions. When the hydra was released I bought it because I could travel even faster with it... It would suck for me to no longer being able to use it in passive because I would get shot down constantly.

[Wotanskrieger]

Might want to jump back to LG, OP.

 

At least we didn't have transparent lazer/hydras. Although it's fun.

I want no passive mode in vehicles jets.

I want no passive mode available in yacht during piracy prevention.

Well, in fact, i don't want passive mode cheats. Delete this!

 

FTFY.

[Nick1020]

 

All they have to do is increase the time limit when going back to passive mode. Like say a 5-10 minute increase. And when coming out of passive, a 1 or 2 minute time period where you can't attack.

That is extreme, unless they let us use weapons against non-players.

It would suck bailing out of an aircraft just to get a wanted level and a PO'ed gang (when your plane crashes in gang territory) and you can't defend yourself, on foot, for more than the time period now.

Ever encountered someone going in and out of passive mode in a dog fight or on foot? By making you vulnerable for a minute, it discourages people from using passive mode as a weapon for combat. It's annoying encountering thsee types of player. Especially the ones in the air.

 

Edit: I was referring to pvp btw.

Edited December 3, 2016 by Nick1020

[UKPortista]

- if you deactivate passive mode your character and blip will be solid and become killable instantly but you will not be able to use weapons for 20 seconds,

 

[Jammsbro]

I would love this, the ghostly look annoys me big time. Why can't it be like in non-contact races? (Not transparant until you get close)

Always wanted it. But in fairness, unless players who are in passive had some sort of indicator that they can't use weapons it would be easier for them to get the drop on players not in passive.

You mean something like a blip on the map that indicates wich player is passive and wich is not? Oh, wait... it's already like that...

 

No. I mean on the character. If a character is in passive and can't use weapons or be killed and starts following someone the player can see when he goes from passive to active, if the transparent player is changed to a solid looking player then others have no way of telling when they are passive and when not.