CeoBlitz Posted December 3, 2016 Share Posted December 3, 2016 I am about 10 levels away from 100 and would like to confirm my research. Apparently in a straight line the Banshee 900RR is the fastest, which lacks handling from what I understand. Then you have the T20 and Zentorno. Which is better out of the two for racing, I have them both, but since I can not upgrade fully I do not know. From what I understand the T20 and Zentorno are the best for racing, then for short circuit the RE-7B. Sound about right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rendub Posted December 3, 2016 Share Posted December 3, 2016 (edited) I think 811 is the fastest in straight line (lacks in handilng as well). T20 is slightily better for racing (although if you're buying a new car and you don't have a lot of money, go for Zentorno, it's very close). RE-7B, Tyrus and ETR1 are very close as well. Edit: Watch Broughy's vids. Edited February 14, 2017 by SirRandoom DarkSavageDeathlyCloud 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jyssys Posted December 3, 2016 Share Posted December 3, 2016 811 is the fastest land vehicle in a straight line, beating even the motorcycles. Otherwise, the Super class is pretty balanced right now, with the Zentorno giving you the best chance of being competitive vs. cost. If money isn't an issue, buy any of the new race cars from Cunning Stunts or the T20. DarkSavageDeathlyCloud 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elfoam Posted December 3, 2016 Share Posted December 3, 2016 Osiris/T20/X80/Zentorno/RE7B Choose whichever you like to drive fabisgeffm 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halal Cyborg Posted December 3, 2016 Share Posted December 3, 2016 811 is by far the fastest in a straight line...I shattered all my personal bests using it providing the track has 1 very long straight and you can manoeuvre it around corners. In terms of technical tracks the re7b is undoubtably the best but the tyrus/x80 proto aren't far behind...the Osiris is pretty and along with the t20 competitive but if you're going to spend in them you may as well get the ugly Zentorno as its very close to them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metoxys Posted December 3, 2016 Share Posted December 3, 2016 In case you have the necessary skill to drive them, a Pfister 811 (for straight line speed) and the X80 Proto and the RE-7B are all you need. In general my fastest times on tracks are either with the RE-7B or the X80 Proto - and I do tend to test all the top supercars on the track, including the FMJ, the T20, the Tyrus, the ETR1, and the Zentorno. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Night Machine Posted December 3, 2016 Share Posted December 3, 2016 (edited) I'm still beating the newer cars with my Infernus so I say just get what you feel most comfortable with and rely on your skills. Most of them have to ram me off the track to get the win. lol Edited December 3, 2016 by Night Machine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halal Cyborg Posted December 3, 2016 Share Posted December 3, 2016 (edited) I'm still beating the newer cars with my Infernus so I say just get what you feel most comfortable with and rely on your skills. Most of them have to ram me off the track to get the win. lolYes you can beat randoms in anything...but owning everything I can safely say the infernus is slower than every car mentioned in this thread all things being equal... Well technically it's quicker on a technical circuit than a banshee 900r... Edited December 3, 2016 by Halal Cyborg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coelacanth72 Posted December 3, 2016 Share Posted December 3, 2016 Banshee 900rr may still hand it to the 811, depending on track. Yes, the 811 is deffinitely faster, but acceleration is nothing special, so even with occasional, gentle turns the 900 might still give a higher average speed. I haven't used the banshee but I do have the 811, and making the most of that top speed is easier said than done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CeoBlitz Posted December 3, 2016 Author Share Posted December 3, 2016 Nice thank you for the replies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halal Cyborg Posted December 3, 2016 Share Posted December 3, 2016 Banshee 900rr may still hand it to the 811, depending on track. Yes, the 811 is deffinitely faster, but acceleration is nothing special, so even with occasional, gentle turns the 900 might still give a higher average speed. I haven't used the banshee but I do have the 811, and making the most of that top speed is easier said than done. I've tested them a lot...definitely not mate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M*A*R*I*N*A Posted December 4, 2016 Share Posted December 4, 2016 811 is fastest in a line. X80 Proto is (in my opinion) the best racer because of the AWD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coelacanth72 Posted December 4, 2016 Share Posted December 4, 2016 Banshee 900rr may still hand it to the 811, depending on track. Yes, the 811 is deffinitely faster, but acceleration is nothing special, so even with occasional, gentle turns the 900 might still give a higher average speed. I haven't used the banshee but I do have the 811, and making the most of that top speed is easier said than done. I've tested them a lot...definitely not mateSo is the 900 completely outclassed? Does it still have better acceleration? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mach1bud Posted December 4, 2016 Share Posted December 4, 2016 Banshee 900rr may still hand it to the 811, depending on track. Yes, the 811 is deffinitely faster, but acceleration is nothing special, so even with occasional, gentle turns the 900 might still give a higher average speed. I haven't used the banshee but I do have the 811, and making the most of that top speed is easier said than done. I've tested them a lot...definitely not mateSo is the 900 completely outclassed? Does it still have better acceleration?Put it this way, it would be better off if it had stayed in Sports Class. M*A*R*I*N*A and Halal Cyborg 2 Twitter - Instagram - Youtube - Social Club Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hypas158 Posted December 4, 2016 Share Posted December 4, 2016 T20-A little more understeery sice CS dlc but still amazing for tight technical tracks and long straights. Can still have snap oversteer if you push it beyond the limit. Great acceleration. Osiris- A beast. Favourite car for racing in supers. Planted through corners and takes bumps and kerbs without getting unsettled, easier to handle than the T20 and just as quick. The only slight downside is that it can bog down a bit coming out of slow corners. Zentorno- Same as Osiris, really planted car through the corners and over bumps. Not miles behind the T20 and Osiris on pace but a lot cheaper. Budget buy FMJ- Super twitchy almost like the turismo but can be really, really quick on certain tracks once you get the hang of it(quicker than all other supers on a few tracks), ridiculously good turning circle which makes the steering quick and light but also makes it prone to oversteer if you push it too far and doesn't like bumps that much. Top notch acceleration. Probably the most underrated of all the supers for racing. Don't have much experience with the CS dlc cars as all the crews I race with didn't particularly like them when they were introduced as they broke the most balanced class in the game and never really bothered since they were patched but a few observations. RE-7B- Still OP in the corners, feels a little sluggish on long straights. Still really quick overall and still has a slight edge on the other supers in general. Tyrus- Bullet quick in a straight line and good on the corners as well, can be tail happy over bumps and on turns. Long car which can be a problem when it comes to technical tracks and overtaking. X80- just no Tbh, the super class is really well balanced atm and you won't be too far off the mark with any of those cars. Certain cars will be faster on certain tracks. Not sure if I answered the question but hope that helps in some way. jtSwifterrz and DLcoolJ 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halal Cyborg Posted December 4, 2016 Share Posted December 4, 2016 (edited) T20-A little more understeery sice CS dlc but still amazing for tight technical tracks and long straights. Can still have snap oversteer if you push it beyond the limit. Great acceleration. Osiris- A beast. Favourite car for racing in supers. Planted through corners and takes bumps and kerbs without getting unsettled, easier to handle than the T20 and just as quick. The only slight downside is that it can bog down a bit coming out of slow corners. Zentorno- Same as Osiris, really planted car through the corners and over bumps. Not miles behind the T20 and Osiris on pace but a lot cheaper. Budget buy FMJ- Super twitchy almost like the turismo but can be really, really quick on certain tracks once you get the hang of it(quicker than all other supers on a few tracks), ridiculously good turning circle which makes the steering quick and light but also makes it prone to oversteer if you push it too far and doesn't like bumps that much. Top notch acceleration. Probably the most underrated of all the supers for racing. Don't have much experience with the CS dlc cars as all the crews I race with didn't particularly like them when they were introduced as they broke the most balanced class in the game and never really bothered since they were patched but a few observations. RE-7B- Still OP in the corners, feels a little sluggish on long straights. Still really quick overall and still has a slight edge on the other supers in general. Tyrus- Bullet quick in a straight line and good on the corners as well, can be tail happy over bumps and on turns. Long car which can be a problem when it comes to technical tracks and overtaking. X80- just no Tbh, the super class is really well balanced atm and you won't be too far off the mark with any of those cars. Certain cars will be faster on certain tracks. Not sure if I answered the question but hope that helps in some way. But on a straight circuit the 811 in the hands of a good driver will hand it to all those cars...the re7b will hand it to all the rest on a technical track in the hands of a good driver...the fmj doesn't have enough of either to be top dog at either...and the x80 is far superior to it in terms of speed and handling! Edited December 4, 2016 by Halal Cyborg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
update_lsc Posted December 4, 2016 Share Posted December 4, 2016 (edited) Banshee 900rr may still hand it to the 811, depending on track. Yes, the 811 is deffinitely faster, but acceleration is nothing special, so even with occasional, gentle turns the 900 might still give a higher average speed. I haven't used the banshee but I do have the 811, and making the most of that top speed is easier said than done. Can't talk about console, but this is not true on pc. 811 can reach speeds around 180mph at 60fps, it's even faster than this at 100 or 144. 900r doesn't go that fast. 811 is an awful car to drive imo, 900r is kinda fun for freemode, missions or heists. I quite liked mine. Edited December 4, 2016 by update_lsc Halal Cyborg 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halal Cyborg Posted December 4, 2016 Share Posted December 4, 2016 Don't get me wrong the 811 takes some Herculean driving but it's fast as balls and faster than any other vehicle on many tracks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkSavageDeathlyCloud Posted December 4, 2016 Share Posted December 4, 2016 Osiris/T20/X80/Zentorno/RE7B Choose whichever you like to drive i'd say even the entity xf is still in, especially in random crowded races were people are gonna be pitting each other. Really, unless the driver is forced into a really bad place or is not taking countermesurements against pitting, one does not just simply pit an entity XF from the road. The people trying that with me when i was at my prime in (random)races can testify for that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CeoBlitz Posted December 4, 2016 Author Share Posted December 4, 2016 Nice. I drove the Zentorno, T20, 900r, but not the Osiris. I will try to drive the Osiris. Overall it seems as the the T20 is the king and since I have money I will buy it. Zentorno just handles awesome and feels faster than the T20 to me. All the cars I drove were maxed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halal Cyborg Posted December 4, 2016 Share Posted December 4, 2016 Nice. I drove the Zentorno, T20, 900r, but not the Osiris. I will try to drive the Osiris. Overall it seems as the the T20 is the king and since I have money I will buy it. Zentorno just handles awesome and feels faster than the T20 to me. All the cars I drove were maxed. The T20 is slower than the RE7B, Tyrus, X80 Proto, ETR1 and on straight oriented races the 811 and Banshee 900r... It is a good price though and if you're not racing capable drivers then you can win in It sure but against an equally good driver you'll get stomped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coelacanth72 Posted December 4, 2016 Share Posted December 4, 2016 Nice. I drove the Zentorno, T20, 900r, but not the Osiris. I will try to drive the Osiris. Overall it seems as the the T20 is the king and since I have money I will buy it. Zentorno just handles awesome and feels faster than the T20 to me. All the cars I drove were maxed. T20 is a great car, don't get me wrong, but it's a hair behind the top cars and at that price I'd save the extra couple hundred grand for a 7b. It seems pretty even with the zentorno, the annoyingly fast budget option. I run the 7b and 811, and with those two I only have my driving abilities to blame if I loose. Far from the best budget approach but I think those cars as a pair will best any track in the right hands. Halal Cyborg 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CeoBlitz Posted December 4, 2016 Author Share Posted December 4, 2016 I am good on money. I currently have the 7b. So the 7b is faster than the t20? I thought 7b only for short circuits with many tight turns.. I bought the 900r because I like how it looks. Is the zentorno faster than the t20 as well? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coelacanth72 Posted December 4, 2016 Share Posted December 4, 2016 (edited) Well the 7b may be the king of turns, but excellent acceleration makes it the fastest overall on most tracks, even those with relatively few turns. IME this includes all the stunt races, some more so than others. If money isn't a problem just buy the t20 and see how your track times compare. Remember that only times placed after the nerf will count for the 7b so u will probably have to do some solo races. In any case, they are close enough that your personal driving style may favor the t20 even if most will get better times from the 7b. Zentorno seems pretty even with the t20, but lately I see a lot more zentornos placing first then t20s, but that's just my unreliable, unscientific observation. If I weren't gonna shell out 2mil+ on the 7b/tyrus/etr1 the zentorno would be my choice. Edited December 4, 2016 by coelacanth72 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CeoBlitz Posted December 4, 2016 Author Share Posted December 4, 2016 Thanks for the suggestions. So apparently after the patch the 900r is the fastest top speed Also with the 7b do I have to have a carbon fiber wing and it makes the car go faster or did they patch that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coelacanth72 Posted December 5, 2016 Share Posted December 5, 2016 They patched it but the spoiler still improves traction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hypas158 Posted December 5, 2016 Share Posted December 5, 2016 (edited) T20-A little more understeery sice CS dlc but still amazing for tight technical tracks and long straights. Can still have snap oversteer if you push it beyond the limit. Great acceleration. Osiris- A beast. Favourite car for racing in supers. Planted through corners and takes bumps and kerbs without getting unsettled, easier to handle than the T20 and just as quick. The only slight downside is that it can bog down a bit coming out of slow corners. Zentorno- Same as Osiris, really planted car through the corners and over bumps. Not miles behind the T20 and Osiris on pace but a lot cheaper. Budget buy FMJ- Super twitchy almost like the turismo but can be really, really quick on certain tracks once you get the hang of it(quicker than all other supers on a few tracks), ridiculously good turning circle which makes the steering quick and light but also makes it prone to oversteer if you push it too far and doesn't like bumps that much. Top notch acceleration. Probably the most underrated of all the supers for racing. Don't have much experience with the CS dlc cars as all the crews I race with didn't particularly like them when they were introduced as they broke the most balanced class in the game and never really bothered since they were patched but a few observations. RE-7B- Still OP in the corners, feels a little sluggish on long straights. Still really quick overall and still has a slight edge on the other supers in general. Tyrus- Bullet quick in a straight line and good on the corners as well, can be tail happy over bumps and on turns. Long car which can be a problem when it comes to technical tracks and overtaking. X80- just no Tbh, the super class is really well balanced atm and you won't be too far off the mark with any of those cars. Certain cars will be faster on certain tracks. Not sure if I answered the question but hope that helps in some way. But on a straight circuit the 811 in the hands of a good driver will hand it to all those cars...the re7b will hand it to all the rest on a technical track in the hands of a good driver...the fmj doesn't have enough of either to be top dog at either...and the x80 is far superior to it in terms of speed and handling!Where the FMJ destroys everything is in it's turning radius, it turns on a dime, much better than the 7b in that respect and a country mile ahead of the x80 so it will destroy those cars around really really tight circuits with hairpins etc. I said that certain cars would be faster around certain tracks. The 7b is still the fastest in general, I don't disagree with that at all but the X80 is not a great handling car, it understeers underbraking, snap oversteers on exits, has the turning circle of 18 wheeler, don't let the stats fool you. Might be decent for rockstar created stunt races but on good player created tracks, it will be beat on the vast majority of tracks by the t20, osiris, 7b etc. The cars which can handle themselves best across pretty much all tracks are the T20, Osiris, 7b. The 811 is only good for straight tracks so I wouldn't recommend any buy it as their race car. Car physics can be changed through mod setups as well if you want to get really detailed about things and not just by adding off roads instead of highends but through the specific model you pick of each type. Different wheels within the same class can drastically change the handling characteristics of each car and different class determine where the limit of grip is so the same car can handle completely different depending on how it is setup. The same goes for what spoiler and bumpers and skirts are on the car, they all change the physics and thus handling characteristics of the car. Different spoilers for instance have differing levels of traction. Don't believe me, put the big spoiler on the Osiris and it handles terribly with big understeer, the smaller wing makes the car much faster and better to drive, the car still understeers but not nearly as much. Add a set of radial offroad tyres and a stock bumper and the car becomes an absolute dream to drive. Sounds ridiculously complicated for gta driving physics but these things change the CoG of the car physics which affects how it performs. Edited December 5, 2016 by Hypas158 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halal Cyborg Posted December 5, 2016 Share Posted December 5, 2016 Post up a time you've set in the fmj on a rockstar circuit that you're proud of and I'll try beating it in an x80 then mate Or we can race if you're xb1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grindgrizzly Posted December 5, 2016 Share Posted December 5, 2016 The t20 is still my go to. Its more my style personally and it looks sick drifting around the city Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metworld-Steve Posted December 6, 2016 Share Posted December 6, 2016 I mean absolutely no offense to the OP with what I am about to say BUT if you are a level 90 and interested in racing and have not unlocked all of the mods already through wins then it really doesnt matter what car you buy. The difference is minimal. That minimal is what wins races when a skilled driver uses one of these cars. I leveled up a second character by 20/25 with all mods unlocked. Took a few hours. Stock T20, Massacro and Gauntlet did the trick for me. I honestly think you are overthinking this. Buy a car you like the look of and learn to drive it. Specific cars for specific tracks is beyond where you are right now. I would say I am an average driver. I drive pretty well in non contact but am not so good when people push me off the road. I have maybe had 1 World Record on a simple track and that probably lasted all of 5 mins! No offense intended. I just think you are approaching it wrong. Halal Cyborg 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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