We need....the property cap removed.

[Wylyth1992]

I have an idea: when you own an apartment, have the game allow you to buy additional standalone garages for $150K each in the same building, instead of buying another apartment in the same building (for example, you own Del Perro Heights, you can buy an 5 additional garages for $150K each)

Edited February 3, 2017 by WFD1992

[wmblgy]

So have we had any decent counter arguments yet? Other than the good old "Do you even use all of them? I bet you don't even use all of them. You shouldn't complain unless you're using all of them. I'm using all of mine."?

This isn't a matter of arguments. Rockstar isn't watching this thread, waiting patiently to implement unlimited garage space once they ensure nobody has counter arguments.

 

The number of properties allowed per character is entirely up to Rockstar. It's their data servers and their database structure so they make the call. Regardless of what user level "I want" or "I don't want" arguments are presented here.

Edited February 3, 2017 by wmblgy

[0cta]

So I wouldn't listen to people who don't work at Rockstar who claim that we can't have more based just on the technical stuff. Just interested in hearing other arguments (if there are any) why we shouldn't have this.

 

Ok, i try to play devil's advocate here:

 

• is "enough garage space" really enough garage space?

Let's say with every new car added, they add the same number of garaga space so the "OWN ALL THE CARS" part of the community will be statisfied. Or ist it?

"I need more space because i want to steal cars and sell them later"

"I need more space because i want both benny's and the stock version of the car

"I need more space because i want the same car, but in different colors"

"I need more space because i want an additional weazel-van collection

"I need more space because i want a full RGB color gradient in my garage"

 

 

• Less is more

Special yourself and create a distinct character with a distinct car collection and not just "i own everything in the game"

[Yinepi]

 

So I wouldn't listen to people who don't work at Rockstar who claim that we can't have more based just on the technical stuff. Just interested in hearing other arguments (if there are any) why we shouldn't have this.

 

Ok, i try to play devil's advocate here:

 

• is "enough garage space" really enough garage space?

Let's say with every new car added, they add the same number of garaga space so the "OWN ALL THE CARS" part of the community will be statisfied. Or ist it?

"I need more space because i want to steal cars and sell them later"

"I need more space because i want both benny's and the stock version of the car

"I need more space because i want the same car, but in different colors"

"I need more space because i want an additional weazel-van collection

"I need more space because i want a full RGB color gradient in my garage"

 

 

• Less is more

Special yourself and create a distinct character with a distinct car collection and not just "i own everything in the game"

 

You specified the reasons why most people want the cap removed, or at the very least extended to a really large amount. While I understand the "distinct character" argument in a sense because I myself only have Lowriders, luxry SUVs, Beater cars, and Tuner cars in garage(s) because of my own personal real-life "distinct character" that I reflect upon my game character, some people do get enjoyment from trying to own everything and I don't think they should be denied that enjoyment simply because you alone enjoy having "distinct character".

 

Removing the cap doesn't effect your ability to have "distinct character" and it also allows others to enjoy other different ways of playing. It essentially does little negative impact to the game. Everybody wins with it, so I honestly fail to see how it would negatively impact your game-play style so much to point where you'd be against it.

Edited February 3, 2017 by Yinepi

[FaultyDroid]

 

So I wouldn't listen to people who don't work at Rockstar who claim that we can't have more based just on the technical stuff. Just interested in hearing other arguments (if there are any) why we shouldn't have this.

Ok, i try to play devil's advocate here:

 

• is "enough garage space" really enough garage space?

Let's say with every new car added, they add the same number of garaga space so the "OWN ALL THE CARS" part of the community will be statisfied. Or ist it?

"I need more space because i want to steal cars and sell them later"

"I need more space because i want both benny's and the stock version of the car

"I need more space because i want the same car, but in different colors"

"I need more space because i want an additional weazel-van collection

"I need more space because i want a full RGB color gradient in my garage"

 

 

• Less is more

Special yourself and create a distinct character with a distinct car collection and not just "i own everything in the game"

That would be telling others how to play the game.

 

Each to their own, if someone wants to collect every car & own everything in the game, why cant they? It doesnt affect anyone else. & If R* never intended this then they shouldnt be releasing 60-car garages.. They're clearly aware what the players want.

 

I dont keep cars I dont drive, im a 'one car of each class' type of chap. But not everyone plays the same.

[BlackMilk]

 

So have we had any decent counter arguments yet? Other than the good old "Do you even use all of them? I bet you don't even use all of them. You shouldn't complain unless you're using all of them. I'm using all of mine."?

This isn't a matter of arguments. Rockstar isn't watching this thread, waiting patiently to implement unlimited garage space once they ensure nobody has counter arguments.

 

The number of properties allowed per character is entirely up to Rockstar. It's their data servers and their database structure so they make the call. Regardless of what user level "I want" or "I don't want" arguments are presented here.

 

Do you know what a discussion board is for? Discussions. People are discussing here wether or not we need more space (or just want it), what reasons there could be for Rockstar not to expand on storage space and how likely it is. When I asked if any new arguments had been made I was asking because I had seen no decent argument of users here why Rockstar shouldn't give more storage space.

 

Who said that Rockstar is watching this thread? They're not a part of this. Again, this is just a discussion between players. By your logic a lot of threads might as well be deleted because they don't affect what Rockstar does with their game.

 

This thread came to be because some forum users kept mentioning they wanted more garage space. Then other forum users insisted they have enough and that there's no way there will ever be more. That's how a discussion gets started. That's why people are arguing about this. You've got one group who wants to store a heck of a lot of vehicles and another group made up of people who try to decide for the first group when they have enough and who presume to know exactly what's going on backstage, so to speak.

 

If you think that WE think Rockstar is actually going to change something based on this thread, you're the one who doesn't understand what's happening here.

 

@Octa: you can't decide for others what they should or shouldn't do in a game, at least not as long as they're not harming other players with their actions. If the system can handle the extra vehicles stored per character, how does that adversely affect you?

 

And to repeat myself once again, some people keep saying that we don't NEED more space which is true. Need is probably not the right word here since we don't need more than 130 vehicles to be able to play the game. But here's the thing, a lot of players have more vehicles than they actually need.

 

Take for example someone who doesn't participate in races or other vehicle based jobs. Do they need any PV's to be able to play contact missions? To play heists? No, they don't. If they have zero stored vehicles and load into a contact mission, the ground doesn't turn into lava, swallowing up players on foot. They can just walk or run to objectives using these things called legs.

Extreme example you might think, but that's what it comes down to if you really want to make proper use of the word need. It's only need if you literally can't do something without it.

 

The armoured Kuruma and Insurgent make a lot of missions easier. But they're not necessary. No PV is necessary for missions or free mode. And if you're playing with someone else and want to get somewhere a little faster than you would be on foot, ride sharing is always an option.

 

My point is that people here all have their own collections and their own idea of what's enough. If you have twenty vehicles and think that thirty is more than you want, that's fine. But thirty being too much doesn't become a universal fact that applies to all players everywhere. You're just arbitrarily throwing figures out that are based on nothing but your own idea of what is reasonable.

 

I'm willing to bet that even most of the people arguing against more storage space have more vehicles than they truly need. Share with us a list or some pictures of your properties and we'll see what you could get rid of as well. (directed at everyone)

[0cta]

As said, personally i have no problem if there'd be no limit at all (let us purchase additional garage floors in the CEO-Office or new, separate garages in special buildings that can be enlarged, whatever), i just tried to think of non-technical reasons why there should be a limit, which was rather hard

[Black-Dragon96]

Well there are no other reasons than technical reasons and even these are very rare.

Im sure we all can agree, that unlimited is impossible, because of the way how programming works. Its pretty hard, if not impossible to tell a computer what unlimited is since all they can understand is 0 and 1. But that does not mean that it is impossible to add more garages.

Another thing that we know, is that the game can not load more than 10 vehicles at a time. Why? I dont know. It could be everything, from console limitations to stability problems with the game. So its nearly sure that we wont get any garages where more then 10 vehicle sare seeable at the same time. They could do something similar like the office garages or something like the underground garage for special vehicles where you go up/down a set of stairs ton reach your vehicles to get around this problem or make even bigger garages then we currently have.

The data storage is also not a real problem. All the models, colors, tuning parts, handling data is stored on your own device (because of that we need to download the updates). The only thing that is stored on rockstars servers is a line of code. This line of code includes all the needed data that you game needs to spawn your car. Its like a recipe for your car and because of that it is very little data.

 

 

[BlackMilk]

Well there are no other reasons than technical reasons and even these are very rare.

Im sure we all can agree, that unlimited is impossible, because of the way how programming works. Its pretty hard, if not impossible to tell a computer what unlimited is since all they can understand is 0 and 1. But that does not mean that it is impossible to add more garages.

Another thing that we know, is that the game can not load more than 10 vehicles at a time. Why? I dont know. It could be everything, from console limitations to stability problems with the game. So its nearly sure that we wont get any garages where more then 10 vehicle sare seeable at the same time. They could do something similar like the office garages or something like the underground garage for special vehicles where you go up/down a set of stairs ton reach your vehicles to get around this problem or make even bigger garages then we currently have.

The data storage is also not a real problem. All the models, colors, tuning parts, handling data is stored on your own device (because of that we need to download the updates). The only thing that is stored on rockstars servers is a line of code. This line of code includes all the needed data that you game needs to spawn your car. Its like a recipe for your car and because of that it is very little data.

 

 

"the game can not load more than 10 vehicles at a time."

 

Is that one of those new alternative facts I keep hearing about? You say that and follow that up with a remark about the office garages. So you're aware of those. You're also aware that you can enter one such garage when it's filled to capacity at twenty vehicles max? Okay.

 

Ofcourse unlimited storage space isn't possible. You can't have a trazillion vehicles stored. Made up word there, I guess, but you get my point. But what people here want is to be allowed to store as much AS THE SYSTEM CAN HANDLE. And so far, people have consistently been wrong with their diagnosis of Rockstar's system since they kept saying we COULDN'T get more storage space and then we actually did.

 

What is being asked for:

 

As many property slots AS THE GAME CAN HANDLE and/or as many storage slots AS THE GAME CAN HANDLE.

That's all.

Edited February 3, 2017 by BlackMilk

[GTAUrbanCamping]

In my 5 properties, I cant even fill those. And I have very generic vehicles. Basically all pickup trucks. My favorite one is the bobcat XL. They need to add a dually.

[Black-Dragon96]

 

Well there are no other reasons than technical reasons and even these are very rare.

Im sure we all can agree, that unlimited is impossible, because of the way how programming works. Its pretty hard, if not impossible to tell a computer what unlimited is since all they can understand is 0 and 1. But that does not mean that it is impossible to add more garages.

Another thing that we know, is that the game can not load more than 10 vehicles at a time. Why? I dont know. It could be everything, from console limitations to stability problems with the game. So its nearly sure that we wont get any garages where more then 10 vehicle sare seeable at the same time. They could do something similar like the office garages or something like the underground garage for special vehicles where you go up/down a set of stairs ton reach your vehicles to get around this problem or make even bigger garages then we currently have.

The data storage is also not a real problem. All the models, colors, tuning parts, handling data is stored on your own device (because of that we need to download the updates). The only thing that is stored on rockstars servers is a line of code. This line of code includes all the needed data that you game needs to spawn your car. Its like a recipe for your car and because of that it is very little data.

 

 

"the game can not load more than 10 vehicles at a time."

 

Is that one of those new alternative facts I keep hearing about? You say that and follow that up with a remark about the office garages. So you're aware of those. You're also aware that you can enter one such garage when it's filled to capacity at twenty vehicles max? Okay.

 

Ofcourse unlimited storage space isn't possible. You can't have a trazillion vehicles stored. Made up word there, I guess, but you get my point. But what people here want is to be allowed to store as much AS THE SYSTEM CAN HANDLE. And so far, people have consistently been wrong with their diagnosis of Rockstar's system since they kept saying we COULDN'T get more storage space and then we actually did.

 

What is being asked for:

 

As many property slots AS THE GAME CAN HANDLE and/or as many storage slots AS THE GAME CAN HANDLE.

That's all.

You miss understood me.

The thing with the office garages is that you are not able to see more/much more then

10 vehicles at a time. We could have garages that store more then 50 vehicles but we will never have garages where you can SEE more than 10 vehicles. Guess why the office garages are in three stores per garages or the cars in the vehicle warehouse get covered up when you have more then 10. Because of that i think that the game can not load more then 10 vehicles at a time, for reasons i dont know.

And yes i understand that the people here want as much garages as the game is able to handle.

I am one of them.

It is definitly possible to add more propertyslots and it will probably happen in the future (i hope so atleast).

Edited February 3, 2017 by Black-Dragon96

[Jenkiiii]

Do you even use half cars you have why would you want even more?I have over 100 vehicles and i use only 4 bikes bobber,hokochu drag,deamon and bagger.

 

Then why do you have over 100 vehicles?

 

Yes, I use all of mine. I talk to my secretary and choose something I haven't taken out in a while. That's what it's all about.

[Jenkiiii]

I have an idea: when you own an apartment, have the game allow you to buy additional standalone garages for $150K each in the same building, instead of buying another apartment in the same building (for example, you own Del Perro Heights, you can buy an 5 additional garages for $150K each)

 

You can already do this at Eclipse Towers. There are seven apartments available: Penthouses 1, 2 and 3. Apartments 5, 9, 31 and 40.

I own the 60 car showroom, and six apartments in Eclipse Towers. That's how I organise my collection.

 

 

 

In my 5 properties, I cant even fill those. And I have very generic vehicles. Basically all pickup trucks. My favorite one is the bobcat XL. They need to add a dually.

 

Then this isn't really the thread for you. No offence, as there are a lot of people who want hundreds of cars and multiple versions of everything, including me, no matter how egocentric or selfish that might sound.

[Black-Dragon96]

Our biggest problem is that Rockstar Games does not really care about this issue. I mean we had the reply from this 4chan guy, who said:"It for ever baffles my mind why the players want more garagespace."

If that is the general opinion at Rockstar HQ, we are pretty much f***ed.

[bulldog385]

I just wish R* would give us 10-Car garages out in Blaine County.

[idonknowhow]

Office garage is not bright enough compare to 10 car garage. I really like more property slot than expand ceo garage.

[Wscratch]

I hope lgt will not continu to harass me during the valentine day....

[Error2k]

Screenshot from my topic. Noice

[D9fred95]

I personally feel fine with the amount of garage space we got. I'd rather SP got some garage space instead.

[TheHolyNZF]

How about separating garages:

5x 2 car garage =10

4x 6car garage =24

4x 10 car garage =40

 

10 + 24 + 40 = 74

 

 

4x 2 car apt =8

3x 6 car apt=18

 

8 + 18 = 26

 

 

4x 10 car apt(normal high end) = 40

4x 10 car apt(high life) = 40

4x 10 car stilt house = 40

1 penthouse -should give you 20 car garage = 20

 

40 + 40 + 40 + 20 = 140

 

ability to purchase 60 car garages under other offices for a higher price

4 x 60 = 240

 

So grand total:

74 + 26 + 140 + 240 = 480

 

that's 4 times the current space.

[Rockstar_Fanboy]

I would love the property cap removed because I just love owning properties.

 

But looking at the title of this thread, I am not certain some know what the word "need" means.

[Black-Dragon96]

I would love the property cap removed because I just love owning properties.

 

But looking at the title of this thread, I am not certain some know what the word "need" means.

Well i understand it this way: We (the people who, like me, want to own more cars) need the property cap removed to expand our collection.

[Rockstar_Fanboy]

 

I would love the property cap removed because I just love owning properties.

 

But looking at the title of this thread, I am not certain some know what the word "need" means.

Well i understand it this way: We (the people who, like me, want to own more cars) need the property cap removed to expand our collection.

You realize you just defined "need" in terms of "want," don't you?

[Nyamber]

 

 

I would love the property cap removed because I just love owning properties.

 

But looking at the title of this thread, I am not certain some know what the word "need" means.

Well i understand it this way: We (the people who, like me, want to own more cars) need the property cap removed to expand our collection.

You realize you just defined "need" in terms of "want," don't you?

 

No one likes people who's only goal in life is to be pedantic.

[SHADOW OPS]

 

 

I would love the property cap removed because I just love owning properties.

 

But looking at the title of this thread, I am not certain some know what the word "need" means.

Well i understand it this way: We (the people who, like me, want to own more cars) need the property cap removed to expand our collection.

You realize you just defined "need" in terms of "want," don't you?

They don't. You are wasting your breath my friend.

[Nyamber]

 

 

 

I would love the property cap removed because I just love owning properties.

 

But looking at the title of this thread, I am not certain some know what the word "need" means.

Well i understand it this way: We (the people who, like me, want to own more cars) need the property cap removed to expand our collection.

You realize you just defined "need" in terms of "want," don't you?

They don't. You are wasting your breath my friend.

 

I'm not convinced you two aren't the same person. You are known for making multiple accounts, after all.

[Black-Dragon96]

 

 

I would love the property cap removed because I just love owning properties.

 

But looking at the title of this thread, I am not certain some know what the word "need" means.

Well i understand it this way: We (the people who, like me, want to own more cars) need the property cap removed to expand our collection.

You realize you just defined "need" in terms of "want," don't you?

Nope. We cant expand our collection without the property cap removed or a higher limit. In order to have more then 130 vehicles we need more then 130 slots.

 

@Mister Deadpool aka ShadowOperativ

Let me ask you a question: It seem that you do not like this topic. So why are you even here? Wouldnt it be better for you to just ignore it?

[Happy Hunter]

 

@Mister Deadpool aka ShadowOperativ

Let me ask you a question: It seem that you do not like this topic. So why are you even here? Wouldnt it be better for you to just ignore it?

 

He's a little confused. Personally I think it'd best if he moved on, agreed to disagree, etc. But he's troubled and confused - guess we should be understanding.

[SHADOW OPS]

I like the topic just fine. They can remove the property cap. I have heard far worse ideas today.

[ash-274]

I'm been working on a collection of rare-spawn cars that I wouldn't want in my office garages because they aren't "mine" in the sense that I only acquired them and didn't customize them. It's filled 3½ of my 10-car garages (so far) with two more filling up with "doubles" to sell at leisure.

 

I have about 60% of the office garages filled with actual "personal vehicles" right now, but if I decide to transfer my other character's Super and Sports Classic collections to my main character those garages would be full (and I'd be millions of dollars poorer).

 

So, yes. I wouldn't mind more space; and I would have picked up a few small properties in Poleto Bay and Sandy Shores to save me money/effort when acquiring cars instead of trading-in my 10-car garages for a 50% loss each time.