DERGaming Posted October 28, 2016 Share Posted October 28, 2016 (edited) Hey I am getting ready to get a gaming PC I have a friend I trust who is looking around for me I plan on using a mouse and keyboard. So is there any tips you can give me on what equipment to buy and I don't want it to be too expensive. Also any tips about getting used to mouse and keyboard? I played a lot of Minecraft before I quit so I know W A S D pretty well how long will it take for me to get used to it? Any tips for me will be appreciated I plan on playing games like Battlefield and watch dogs 2 when it comes out keep that in mind Thanks!!!! edit: I play pretty much every kind of game role playing, fist person shooters third person shooters free roam games racing games fighting games multiplayer games every kind of game you can think of so please give me some advice about equipment that I can use for every type of game. Edited October 28, 2016 by DERGaming Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dottie Posted October 28, 2016 Share Posted October 28, 2016 Hey I am getting ready to get a gaming PC I have a friend I trust who is looking around for me I plan on using a mouse and keyboard. So is there any tips you can give me on what equipment to buy and I don't want it to be too expensive. Also any tips about getting used to mouse and keyboard? I played a lot of Minecraft before I quit so I know W A S D pretty well how long will it take for me to get used to it? Any tips for me will be appreciated I plan on playing games like Battlefield and watch dogs 2 when it comes out keep that in mind Thanks!!!! Mouse and key for shooters (more precise aim). Controller or steering wheel for dedicated driving games (WASD driving is very clunky on games like forza and similar). You don't necessarily need a mouse that has 5487421 buttons on it, but a mouse wheel and a few extra buttons (especially one that can change its cursor speed on the fly) is strongly suggested. WASD in general is pretty easy to get used to having played plenty of shooters on console and PC For open-worlds, mouse and key will do fine since driving on just about every open world is arcady nonsense where it isn't really game changing to use a controller. DERGaming 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DERGaming Posted October 28, 2016 Author Share Posted October 28, 2016 Hey I am getting ready to get a gaming PC I have a friend I trust who is looking around for me I plan on using a mouse and keyboard. So is there any tips you can give me on what equipment to buy and I don't want it to be too expensive. Also any tips about getting used to mouse and keyboard? I played a lot of Minecraft before I quit so I know W A S D pretty well how long will it take for me to get used to it? Any tips for me will be appreciated I plan on playing games like Battlefield and watch dogs 2 when it comes out keep that in mind Thanks!!!! Mouse and key for shooters (more precise aim). Controller or steering wheel for dedicated driving games (WASD driving is very clunky on games like forza and similar). You don't necessarily need a mouse that has 5487421 buttons on it, but a mouse wheel and a few extra buttons (especially one that can change its cursor speed on the fly) is strongly suggested. WASD in general is pretty easy to get used to having played plenty of shooters on console and PC For open-worlds, mouse and key will do fine since driving on just about every open world is arcady nonsense where it isn't really game changing to use a controller. Can you recommend any brand of mouse/ keyboard I also heard that you need a gaming mousepad? I never heard of it but any way I you can give me a link to good gaming equipment please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxxeine Posted October 28, 2016 Share Posted October 28, 2016 The person above is pretty much spot-on - you'll still want a controller for flying in certain games but WASD in general is very easy to get used to - in fact, it's more likely you'll forget how to use a controller after using WASD for a while. You'll have a lot more manual control, and for a game like Minecraft this is pretty essential (especially if you're building things which require fast movements). If you're doing a lot of Minecraft it may be worth investing in a keyboard that has macro keys, which essentially allow your keyboard (or anything really) to perform a specific task - you can bind these to perform keystrokes or various other actions in your OS. This might be worth taking a look into - Logitech make great keyboards for this purpose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RogerWho Posted October 28, 2016 Share Posted October 28, 2016 Frankly I'd just use the gamepad for most stuff. In fact, I do. Most AAA games are made with consoles in mind and the controls and feel are optimized for it. Some games, even shooters, are designed for consoles so much that playing them with kbm feels completely wrong. Such as COD from Blops ownward (i.e. those not made on the remnants of the Quake 3 engine). When I played Battlefield BC2 a few years ago I was bored and furious at the same time because it didn't support controllers for some reason. It also goes for the design of the games, where shooters are made as shooting galleries (cover-based pop-ups, enemies only in the front etc.) Kbm is of course king for some older shooters and multiplayer if you're into that, but for most SP games these days, nah. As for learning, grab some old shooter such as Quake 3 or Unreal Tournament, start at lowest difficulty and go from there. But doing that may also fill you with disgust later when you'll try to use kbm with the modern games Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DERGaming Posted October 28, 2016 Author Share Posted October 28, 2016 The person above is pretty much spot-on - you'll still want a controller for flying in certain games but WASD in general is very easy to get used to - in fact, it's more likely you'll forget how to use a controller after using WASD for a while. You'll have a lot more manual control, and for a game like Minecraft this is pretty essential (especially if you're building things which require fast movements). If you're doing a lot of Minecraft it may be worth investing in a keyboard that has macro keys, which essentially allow your keyboard (or anything really) to perform a specific task - you can bind these to perform keystrokes or various other actions in your OS. This might be worth taking a look into - Logitech make great keyboards for this purpose. I used to play Minecraft a lot on my laptop but I quit and will never return it got boring but I did learn a lot about mouse and keyboard from it. And could you send me a link to good equipment for me becuase I have been searching and all the stuff is either too expensive or is really bad. Please send me a link of what you guys would Recommend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dottie Posted October 28, 2016 Share Posted October 28, 2016 I just use this generic Logitech mouse with a wheel and two extra thumb buttons. It suffices well enough for me and I don't game as much on PC to bother investing in a better mouse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DERGaming Posted October 29, 2016 Author Share Posted October 29, 2016 (edited) I looked up some cheap gaming equipment that I feel would work well tell me your thoughts. If I am missing something tell me I am not too sure what kind of monitor to get yet I would like you to recommend one to me but here is my list. Equipment Keyboard: https://www.amazon.com/AULA-Backlit-Gaming-Keyboard-Colorways/dp/B00FWK8UWI/ref=sr_1_1?tag=amazon0606-20&ie=UTF8&qid=1445548106&sr=8-1&keywords=AULA+LED+Gaming+Keyboard Mouse: https://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Hyperion-Gaming-Fusion-910-004069/dp/B00LZVNWIA%3FSubscriptionId%3D14H876SFAKFS0EHBYQ02%26tag%3Dhubpages-20%26linkCode%3Dxm2%26camp%3D2025%26creative%3D165953%26creativeASIN%3DB00LZVNWIA Mouse pad: https://www.amazon.com/ROCCAT-TAITO-Mid-Size-Gaming-Mousepad/dp/B001FVW6DM Headset: https://www.amazon.com/OMG-Computer-Heaphones-Microphone-Isolating/dp/B01A73ZIL0%3FSubscriptionId%3DAKIAIO22DD3AFUSKXUKQ%26tag%3Dmakeusw-20%26linkCode%3Dxm2%26camp%3D2025%26creative%3D165953%26creativeASIN%3DB01A73ZIL0 Edited October 29, 2016 by DERGaming Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luisniko Posted October 29, 2016 Share Posted October 29, 2016 Save your money by buying standard-yet-good-quality peripherals for keyboard, mouse, headset, joystick, and especially mousepad. I recommend Logitech for keyboard, mouse, and headset. Use X360/X1 joystick for ease of setup. If you want fancy joystick, but willing to go further, use Dualshock 4. The DS4 third party driver is good to customize the joystick, even the light bar. I use that. Unpopular tip: always be a humble gamer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vik Posted October 29, 2016 Share Posted October 29, 2016 (edited) This is gonna regurgitate what many have stated but i'm gonna be cut-throat with these statements. If you ever owned an X360/XONE, use the gamepad they provide. Otherwise programs such as MotionJoy (have to change the date when launching the program to like early 2014 though so you can download the drivers properly) and DS4Windows are best for your PS3 and PS4 controllers. Use these for when you have racing games and/or open-world games that contain driving mechanics. Keyboards have this thing called digital input, so when you press W on your keyboard, its like moving the thumbstick all the way forward. I think you can presume this is not a good idea for racing. KBM for everything else. It feels odd at first, but you'll get used to it. When you first buy your peripherals, go in this hierachy - Mouse -> Headset -> Keyboard. Mouse is the most crucial since it helps with aim and controls your camera movement. Getting a bad mouse provides built in hardware issues within the mouse, bad tracking, as well as poor response speeds. A good mouse from Logitech or Corsair will last you a while. I WOULD NOT RECOMMEND A RAZER MOUSE HOWEVER. They look good on the surface, but have wonky quality control and are cheaply made. The mouse you linked has odd ergonomics and an okay sensor. I would recommend to watch the provided video for more in-depth analysis, they have good reviews peripheral wise and make it easier for new users to understand what peripherals are best. Alright, now to dissecting the products you listed. Keyboard - OKAY at best. AULA is not a relatively popular company so you shouldn't expect the best quality. Keyboards from Cooler Master and sometimes Logitech are the holy grail for budget users. With a new PC, a keyboard should be the last of your priority, but you would prefer something nice. Right ? Cooler Master Devastator II Has higher quality switches (the thing that reacts when you press down on a click and get that "clack" sound), comes from a reliable company, and for only 7-11 dollars more gets you a backup mouse just in case your main one might fail. Mouse - Good company, okay prodcut. The G402 was mostly a by-affect of the great response of the G502 and often gets buried within Logitech's varied and great lineup of both old and new mice. The Logitech G403 is comfortable, the newer model to the G402 and melds the best of both worlds of the low end Logitech line as well as the high end. Headset - Nope, don't even consider it. Unknown company, odd design, probably sh*tty mic. You'll regret it. Spend $20 more and thank yourself with the HyperX Stinger. The investment provides a likely better mic, better build quality, and comes from arguable the best manufacturer for gaming headsets currently. For mousepad, honestly just get the SteelSeries QcK+. Cheaper, gets the job done, and has been the go-to mousepad for most PC gamers. Roccat mousepads also aren't that great. Hopefully this helped you out . EDIT: Welp, that wasn't very short, ah well. Edited October 29, 2016 by Vik Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DERGaming Posted October 29, 2016 Author Share Posted October 29, 2016 (edited) This is gonna regurgitate what many have stated but i'm gonna be cut-throat with these statements. If you ever owned an X360/XONE, use the gamepad they provide. Otherwise programs such as MotionJoy (have to change the date when launching the program to like early 2014 though so you can download the drivers properly) and DS4Windows are best for your PS3 and PS4 controllers. Use these for when you have racing games and/or open-world games that contain driving mechanics. Keyboards have this thing called digital input, so when you press W on your keyboard, its like moving the thumbstick all the way forward. I think you can presume this is not a good idea for racing. KBM for everything else. It feels odd at first, but you'll get used to it. When you first buy your peripherals, go in this hierachy - Mouse -> Headset -> Keyboard. Mouse is the most crucial since it helps with aim and controls your camera movement. Getting a bad mouse provides built in hardware issues within the mouse, bad tracking, as well as poor response speeds. A good mouse from Logitech or Corsair will last you a while. I WOULD NOT RECOMMEND A RAZER MOUSE HOWEVER. They look good on the surface, but have wonky quality control and are cheaply made. The mouse you linked has odd ergonomics and an okay sensor. I would recommend to watch the provided video for more in-depth analysis, they have good reviews peripheral wise and make it easier for new users to understand what peripherals are best. Alright, now to dissecting the products you listed. Keyboard - OKAY at best. AULA is not a relatively popular company so you shouldn't expect the best quality. Keyboards from Cooler Master and sometimes Logitech are the holy grail for budget users. With a new PC, a keyboard should be the last of your priority, but you would prefer something nice. Right ? Cooler Master Devastator II Has higher quality switches (the thing that reacts when you press down on a click and get that "clack" sound), comes from a reliable company, and for only 7-11 dollars more gets you a backup mouse just in case your main one might fail. Mouse - Good company, okay prodcut. The G402 was mostly a by-affect of the great response of the G502 and often gets buried within Logitech's varied and great lineup of both old and new mice. The Logitech G403 is comfortable, the newer model to the G402 and melds the best of both worlds of the low end Logitech line as well as the high end. Headset - Nope, don't even consider it. Unknown company, odd design, probably sh*tty mic. You'll regret it. Spend $20 more and thank yourself with the HyperX Stinger. The investment provides a likely better mic, better build quality, and comes from arguable the best manufacturer for gaming headsets currently. For mousepad, honestly just get the SteelSeries QcK+. Cheaper, gets the job done, and has been the go-to mousepad for most PC gamers. Roccat mousepads also aren't that great. Hopefully this helped you out . EDIT: Welp, that wasn't very short, ah well. I agree with everything you said but the mouse is 70$ can you recommend something under 50$? If you can't recommend anything under 50$ then I will just stick with what I picked out. The headset was just under 50$ at 49.99 but I told myself that I will buy anything for under 49.99. I like long posts they have more information and show that the Person cares. Edit: how long does it take to get used to mouse and keyboard will it come easy to me? Edited October 29, 2016 by DERGaming Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat Posted October 29, 2016 Share Posted October 29, 2016 (edited) The mouse you should buy depends heavily on how you plan on gripping it. The most popular grips are palm, claw, and fingertip; here's a comparison of all three. Personally I prefer to palm grip and I'm currently using a Zowie EC1-A, and I previously used an EC1-eVo until it started double clicking. I might be biased, but I feel like the G403 is just Logitech's attempt at copying the EC1/EC2 (compare their looks, the G403 is a pretty clear cut copy) and I think it's silly that it costs more than them. Both retail for $60, though, so if you want something cheaper consider the Steelseries Rival 300. There are several reputable sellers on eBay selling Rival 300s for $35, and that's a pretty hard price to beat. Again, though, this is for palm gripping, and both the EC1 and Rival 300 are large mice, so if you can I strongly recommend trying before you buy. Zowie mice aren't sold by any US retailers as far as I'm aware, but Best Buy carries the Rival and should have one on display. I don't really have any recommendations for claw/fingertip, simply because I don't use either style. Of course, just because I like these mice doesn't guarantee you will. Mice are like shoes - you really need to find the size, shape, and texture that fits you the best, and if possible, always try before you buy (if not possible, buy from somewhere with a good return policy). It's also important to keep in mind that while higher quality mice may seem expensive, this is a device that you will be using for several hours every day and will last you for several years. It boggles my mind that some people don't have any problem with the idea of spending $60 on a video game that they'll get maybe 20 hours out of, but scoff at the idea of spending $60 on a mouse that will last hundreds and hundreds of hours worth of use. This isn't directed at you in particular, it's just a general observation from other discussions on mice that I've participated in. Edited October 29, 2016 by Pat Vik 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DERGaming Posted October 29, 2016 Author Share Posted October 29, 2016 (edited) @pat I've heard of this but I am not sure what I am how do I find out and I never really thought of it like I spend 60$ on a game and not a good mouse but please tell me how to find out I don't think trying out is an option but it will take several weeks knowing my mail man to get an mouse so I don't want to wait 3 weeks and then I be like wait can I return this and then buy a new mouse and wait another 3 weeks just to return it again and wait ANOTHER 3 weeks you get the picture. This might be a weird question but can you send a picture of your hand so I can compare it to mine? I have changed my budget to 60$ but the one you posted had a price of 70. Edited October 29, 2016 by DERGaming Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat Posted October 29, 2016 Share Posted October 29, 2016 Find electronics stores in your area that sell gaming mice, and go there to try them before you buy them. Best Buy is just one example, but there are others as well. I know Fry's is a popular choice if you live on the west coast. Hell, even Wal-Mart carries some Logitech and Razer mice last I checked. If you buy one from a retail store, just hold onto the receipt; technically you aren't supposed to return them after opening them, but if you have the receipt they will let you do it. I've done it myself more than once. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vik Posted October 29, 2016 Share Posted October 29, 2016 To add on to what Pat said, Best Buy and Walmart price matches sites that tend to have the lowest price such as Amazon or Newegg. If delivery is an issue as well, you can always do in-store pickup that arrives usually a few days after the order. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DERGaming Posted October 29, 2016 Author Share Posted October 29, 2016 (edited) Thanks for the advice I came here expecting dumb awnsers but all your awnsers are amazing! Edit: I looked at a few mouses this one is cheap and haven't heard anything too bad from it tell me what you think. http://www.bestbuy.com/site/logitech-g300s-optical-gaming-mouse-black/4801013.p?skuId=4801013&ref=212&loc=2 I looked at pats comparison and it looks like I am a palm gripper but I also have 7 inch hands. Edited October 30, 2016 by DERGaming Vik 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MCMXCII Posted October 29, 2016 Share Posted October 29, 2016 I bought my Logitech keyboard and mouse from Best Buy. I prefer their hardware over Wal-Mart's. Plus they have a good return policy should their be a problem with what I bought. I've had my keyboard and mouse for three years now and they both work as if they are brand new. Vik 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vik Posted November 3, 2016 Share Posted November 3, 2016 The G300S is a fantastic ambidextrous optical mouse. It will serve you well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaRdSTyLe_83 Posted November 4, 2016 Share Posted November 4, 2016 To be honest i never upgraded mouse and keyboard unless i had to, it was never a matter of spending more or less money, i just felt i didnt need it. when i switched to the z 170 motherboard i had to buy them with usb. bough as keyboard the asus cerberus, 35$ not the best looking keyboard, but at least it comes with leds so i can see when im in a dark room, just wished it was white light instead of the red or blue. As mouse i have the R.A.T3, nothing special. i like how it fits my hand and i like that it can switch from more to less dpi. the extra keys i only use them when im playing fpshooters to melee or reload so they are also usefull Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sivispacem Posted November 5, 2016 Share Posted November 5, 2016 I never really "got" expensive peripherals until I borrowed a mate's Filco Majestouch keyboard. Now I've got two, one for home and one for work. £120 for a keyboard with no backlighting, no macro keys, in fact no bells or whistles at all apart from an aluminium frame and Cherry MX Browns might seem crazy, but nothing "feels" quite like a high end keyboard to use. Tried Cooler Master and Cherry branded stuff with the same switches but it's just not as good. Something to do with the rigid frame I think. My mouse is a Corsair M65. At ~£50 it wasn't exactly cheap and certainly isn't twice as good as the Perixx it replaced, but if you've got spare Amazon vouchers then why not? Don't buy Roccat gear. The build quality is atrocious, even worse than the very shoddy recent Razer stuff. AMD Ryzen 5900X (4.65GHz All-Core PBO2) | Gigabye X570S Pro | 32GB G-Skill Trident Z RGB 3600MHz CL16 EK-Quantum Reflection D5 | XSPC D5 PWM | TechN/Heatkiller Blocks | HardwareLabs GTS & GTX 360 Radiators Corsair AX750 | Lian Li PC-O11 Dynamic XL | EVGA GeForce RTX2080 XC @2055MHz | Sabrant Rocket Plus 1TB Sabrant Rocket 2TB | Samsung 970 Evo 1TB | 2x ASUS ROG Swift PG279Q | Q Acoustics 2010i | Sabaj A4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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