Can some smart people answer me this:

[SniperPrincess]

 

 

 

So you're going to tell me that it's possible for XB Live and PSN to join together, is that it? Two completely different networks that have their own way of doing things, not only from a business standpoint but a technical standpoint?

 

 

 

There's more to it than games. There's the network part.

 

 

I know what I'm talking about. I'm not in the habit of saying things like...

 

 

 

I know 100% for a fact that it's possible

 

unless I know 100% for a fact that it's possible.

 

I understand why you think it's not, but you are wrong.

 

Okay, how about this: Can we at least agree that whether or not it's technically possible (literally) and whether or not it would actually happen are two seperate things?

If XB Live and PSN were to somehow join up in a magical world to make one holy network, then yes, it would be possible because then people would be able to play together on the same servers since they're technically on the same network. The only thing making it impossible right now to play cross-platform is the fact that there are different networks (Except for the ones being on the same network such as PS3 not being able to play with PS4 players, I still don't get that). But it would be too much of a pain, so I doubt Rockstar's lazy ass would do it anyway, but like I said that's a whole other thing.

Also you avoided my question.

Edited October 28, 2016 by SniperPrincess

[Mattoropael]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

As nearly everyone above says, and they're correct, yes it's perfectly feasible. The data that is passed around the players in the session in order to make the whole online "magic" work is nothing more than a bunch of numbers. It doesn't matter where those numbers have come from or where they go to - they still mean the same thing.

 

However, Rockstar are too dumb to do anything like this. They can't even make races cross-platform, and I don't mean people on different platforms playing together. I mean that there is literally no reason other than a design choice to stop me being able to download a race on my PS4 that was made by someone on XB1. Sure, there are limitations that would stop a PS4 race being played on a PS3 or XB360, but that's not what I'm talking about.

 

Yes, it's possible, but like nearly everyone else has said the platform owners would need to shake on it first, but then it wouldn't happen because Rockstar.

It's not that simple. It's more complex than that. You have to remember that both Microsoft and Sony have their own networks and services. Connecting them together sounds much easier than it actually is. Just because you are playing the same game doesn't mean you would be able to play with people on different platforms.

 

 

That's precisely what it means.

 

If PS4/XB1 had different updates, or a different engine, or something, then yeah. But it's literally the same game. It would be practically trivial.

 

 

 

... Uh, no. That's literally like putting a PS3 disc into a PS4. It isn't compatible. People on this site have always wondered why Xbox players can't play with Playstation players. Hm, maybe because it isn't f*cking possible. Orrrr, to make you feel better, it isn't ~cUrReNtLy~ possible.

 

 

Just because you can't insert a Forza Horizon 3 disc on PC doesn't mean crossplay isn't possible.

 

It's mostly a matter of business decision, and calling it "isn't currently possible" is misleading - This kind of thing will always require additional coding, it's just the problem of how trivial it is to pull off.

 

 

(Not pictured: a multiplayer session. But you get the idea.)

 

 

Not a smart post.

 

The OP never claimed to be smart though. He's asking "smart people" to answer his question.

Edited October 28, 2016 by Mattoropael

[SniperPrincess]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

As nearly everyone above says, and they're correct, yes it's perfectly feasible. The data that is passed around the players in the session in order to make the whole online "magic" work is nothing more than a bunch of numbers. It doesn't matter where those numbers have come from or where they go to - they still mean the same thing.

 

However, Rockstar are too dumb to do anything like this. They can't even make races cross-platform, and I don't mean people on different platforms playing together. I mean that there is literally no reason other than a design choice to stop me being able to download a race on my PS4 that was made by someone on XB1. Sure, there are limitations that would stop a PS4 race being played on a PS3 or XB360, but that's not what I'm talking about.

 

Yes, it's possible, but like nearly everyone else has said the platform owners would need to shake on it first, but then it wouldn't happen because Rockstar.

It's not that simple. It's more complex than that. You have to remember that both Microsoft and Sony have their own networks and services. Connecting them together sounds much easier than it actually is. Just because you are playing the same game doesn't mean you would be able to play with people on different platforms.

 

 

That's precisely what it means.

 

If PS4/XB1 had different updates, or a different engine, or something, then yeah. But it's literally the same game. It would be practically trivial.

 

 

 

... Uh, no. That's literally like putting a PS3 disc into a PS4. It isn't compatible. People on this site have always wondered why Xbox players can't play with Playstation players. Hm, maybe because it isn't f*cking possible. Orrrr, to make you feel better, it isn't ~cUrReNtLy~ possible.

 

 

Just because you can't insert a Forza Horizon 3 disc on PC doesn't mean crossplay isn't possible.

 

It's mostly a matter of business decision, and calling it "isn't currently possible" is misleading - This kind of thing will always require additional coding, it's just the problem of how trivial it is to pull off.

 

 

(Not pictured: a multiplayer session. But you get the idea.)

 

How is saying "GTA crossplay between different platforms isn't currently possible" misleading? That's just standard logic. If that wasn't true, this topic wouldn't have been made. Do you have a magic console that allows you to play GTA with PC, PS4, XB1, PS3, and XB 360 players? If not, then yes it currently isn't possible. If it was, it would be happening. For the millionth time, there's the network issue.

[Furry_Monkey]

 

 

 

 

So you're going to tell me that it's possible for XB Live and PSN to join together, is that it? Two completely different networks that have their own way of doing things, not only from a business standpoint but a technical standpoint?

 

 

 

There's more to it than games. There's the network part.

 

 

I know what I'm talking about. I'm not in the habit of saying things like...

 

 

 

I know 100% for a fact that it's possible

 

unless I know 100% for a fact that it's possible.

 

I understand why you think it's not, but you are wrong.

 

Okay, how about this: Can we at least agree that whether or not it's technically possible (literally) and whether or not it would actually happen are two seperate things?

If XB Live and PSN were to somehow join up in a magical world to make one holy network, then yes, it would be possible because then people would be able to play together on the same servers since they're technically on the same network. The only thing making it impossible right now to play cross-platform is the fact that there are different networks (Except for the ones being on the same network such as PS3 not being able to play with PS4 players, I still don't get that). But it would be too much of a pain, so I doubt Rockstar's lazy ass would do it anyway, but like I said that's a whole other thing.

Also you avoided my question.

 

 

The fact that the consoles utilise XBL or PSN has nothing to do with this whatsoever. The thread is about whether this is technically possible and the answer is an unequivocal yes. FFS you've got a software engineer of 20+ years telling you it's perfectly straight forward and you're arguing. I'm not going to ask how much experience you have. I've stated facts as answers to the question and I'll leave it at that.

Edited October 28, 2016 by Furry_Monkey

[SniperPrincess]

 

 

 

 

 

So you're going to tell me that it's possible for XB Live and PSN to join together, is that it? Two completely different networks that have their own way of doing things, not only from a business standpoint but a technical standpoint?

 

 

 

There's more to it than games. There's the network part.

 

 

I know what I'm talking about. I'm not in the habit of saying things like...

 

 

 

I know 100% for a fact that it's possible

 

unless I know 100% for a fact that it's possible.

 

I understand why you think it's not, but you are wrong.

 

Okay, how about this: Can we at least agree that whether or not it's technically possible (literally) and whether or not it would actually happen are two seperate things?

If XB Live and PSN were to somehow join up in a magical world to make one holy network, then yes, it would be possible because then people would be able to play together on the same servers since they're technically on the same network. The only thing making it impossible right now to play cross-platform is the fact that there are different networks (Except for the ones being on the same network such as PS3 not being able to play with PS4 players, I still don't get that). But it would be too much of a pain, so I doubt Rockstar's lazy ass would do it anyway, but like I said that's a whole other thing.

Also you avoided my question.

 

 

The fact that the consoles utilise XBL or PSN has nothing to do with this whatsoever. The thread is about whether this is technically possible and the answer is an unequivocal yes. FFS you've got a software engineer of 20+ years telling you it's perfectly straight forward and you're arguing. I'm not going to ask how much experience you have. I've stated a facts as answers to the question and I'll leave it at that.

 

You got a diploma or something I can see? You know, like credentials?

Or are you gonna tell me you saw the Loch Ness monster last night too?

[Furry_Monkey]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

So you're going to tell me that it's possible for XB Live and PSN to join together, is that it? Two completely different networks that have their own way of doing things, not only from a business standpoint but a technical standpoint?

 

 

 

There's more to it than games. There's the network part.

 

 

I know what I'm talking about. I'm not in the habit of saying things like...

 

 

 

I know 100% for a fact that it's possible

 

unless I know 100% for a fact that it's possible.

 

I understand why you think it's not, but you are wrong.

 

Okay, how about this: Can we at least agree that whether or not it's technically possible (literally) and whether or not it would actually happen are two seperate things?

If XB Live and PSN were to somehow join up in a magical world to make one holy network, then yes, it would be possible because then people would be able to play together on the same servers since they're technically on the same network. The only thing making it impossible right now to play cross-platform is the fact that there are different networks (Except for the ones being on the same network such as PS3 not being able to play with PS4 players, I still don't get that). But it would be too much of a pain, so I doubt Rockstar's lazy ass would do it anyway, but like I said that's a whole other thing.

Also you avoided my question.

 

 

The fact that the consoles utilise XBL or PSN has nothing to do with this whatsoever. The thread is about whether this is technically possible and the answer is an unequivocal yes. FFS you've got a software engineer of 20+ years telling you it's perfectly straight forward and you're arguing. I'm not going to ask how much experience you have. I've stated a facts as answers to the question and I'll leave it at that.

 

 

You got a diploma or something I can see? You know, like credentials?

Or are you gonna tell me you saw the Loch Ness monster last night too?

 

 

If proving myself to you would change anything then I'd consider it, but your opinion of me bears no relevance.

[-LN-]

 

 

How is saying "GTA crossplay between different platforms isn't currently possible" misleading? That's just standard logic. If that wasn't true, this topic wouldn't have been made. Do you have a magic console that allows you to play GTA with PC, PS4, XB1, PS3, and XB 360 players? If not, then yes it currently isn't possible. If it was, it would be happening. For the millionth time, there's the network issue.

 

 

Well, cross-platform play is definitely possible. As mentioned, certain games already utilise this feature. For example, I play Rocket League (on PS4) against PC players all the time. Previous generation consoles are a different story; they are not equipped to handle such things and since things are present in the HD game that are not present in the previous generation version, that would easily rule them out as well. However, yes, it is 100% possible in regards to the HD versions, but again, the terms would have to be agreed upon by Sony and Microsoft.

Edited October 28, 2016 by -LN-

[SniperPrincess]

Well then, I guess we answered the question didn't we? Until next time...

 

[Mattoropael]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

As nearly everyone above says, and they're correct, yes it's perfectly feasible. The data that is passed around the players in the session in order to make the whole online "magic" work is nothing more than a bunch of numbers. It doesn't matter where those numbers have come from or where they go to - they still mean the same thing.

 

However, Rockstar are too dumb to do anything like this. They can't even make races cross-platform, and I don't mean people on different platforms playing together. I mean that there is literally no reason other than a design choice to stop me being able to download a race on my PS4 that was made by someone on XB1. Sure, there are limitations that would stop a PS4 race being played on a PS3 or XB360, but that's not what I'm talking about.

 

Yes, it's possible, but like nearly everyone else has said the platform owners would need to shake on it first, but then it wouldn't happen because Rockstar.

It's not that simple. It's more complex than that. You have to remember that both Microsoft and Sony have their own networks and services. Connecting them together sounds much easier than it actually is. Just because you are playing the same game doesn't mean you would be able to play with people on different platforms.

 

 

That's precisely what it means.

 

If PS4/XB1 had different updates, or a different engine, or something, then yeah. But it's literally the same game. It would be practically trivial.

 

 

 

... Uh, no. That's literally like putting a PS3 disc into a PS4. It isn't compatible. People on this site have always wondered why Xbox players can't play with Playstation players. Hm, maybe because it isn't f*cking possible. Orrrr, to make you feel better, it isn't ~cUrReNtLy~ possible.

 

 

Just because you can't insert a Forza Horizon 3 disc on PC doesn't mean crossplay isn't possible.

 

It's mostly a matter of business decision, and calling it "isn't currently possible" is misleading - This kind of thing will always require additional coding, it's just the problem of how trivial it is to pull off.

 

[image]

 

(Not pictured: a multiplayer session. But you get the idea.)

 

How is saying "GTA crossplay between different platforms isn't currently possible" misleading? That's just standard logic. If that wasn't true, this topic wouldn't have been made. Do you have a magic console that allows you to play GTA with PC, PS4, XB1, PS3, and XB 360 players? If not, then yes it currently isn't possible. If it was, it would be happening. For the millionth time, there's the network issue.

 

 

You know damn well as I do that you're talking about technical possibility. This entire thread is about the possibility of crossplay since the very first post.

 

Hitting a strawman won't save you.

Edited October 28, 2016 by Mattoropael

[SniperPrincess]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

As nearly everyone above says, and they're correct, yes it's perfectly feasible. The data that is passed around the players in the session in order to make the whole online "magic" work is nothing more than a bunch of numbers. It doesn't matter where those numbers have come from or where they go to - they still mean the same thing.

 

However, Rockstar are too dumb to do anything like this. They can't even make races cross-platform, and I don't mean people on different platforms playing together. I mean that there is literally no reason other than a design choice to stop me being able to download a race on my PS4 that was made by someone on XB1. Sure, there are limitations that would stop a PS4 race being played on a PS3 or XB360, but that's not what I'm talking about.

 

Yes, it's possible, but like nearly everyone else has said the platform owners would need to shake on it first, but then it wouldn't happen because Rockstar.

It's not that simple. It's more complex than that. You have to remember that both Microsoft and Sony have their own networks and services. Connecting them together sounds much easier than it actually is. Just because you are playing the same game doesn't mean you would be able to play with people on different platforms.

 

 

That's precisely what it means.

 

If PS4/XB1 had different updates, or a different engine, or something, then yeah. But it's literally the same game. It would be practically trivial.

 

 

 

... Uh, no. That's literally like putting a PS3 disc into a PS4. It isn't compatible. People on this site have always wondered why Xbox players can't play with Playstation players. Hm, maybe because it isn't f*cking possible. Orrrr, to make you feel better, it isn't ~cUrReNtLy~ possible.

 

 

Just because you can't insert a Forza Horizon 3 disc on PC doesn't mean crossplay isn't possible.

 

It's mostly a matter of business decision, and calling it "isn't currently possible" is misleading - This kind of thing will always require additional coding, it's just the problem of how trivial it is to pull off.

 

[image]

 

(Not pictured: a multiplayer session. But you get the idea.)

 

How is saying "GTA crossplay between different platforms isn't currently possible" misleading? That's just standard logic. If that wasn't true, this topic wouldn't have been made. Do you have a magic console that allows you to play GTA with PC, PS4, XB1, PS3, and XB 360 players? If not, then yes it currently isn't possible. If it was, it would be happening. For the millionth time, there's the network issue.

 

 

You know damn well as I do that you're talking about technical possibility. This entire thread is about the possibility of crossplay since the very first post.

 

Word games won't save you.

 

Well buddy, that's what I meant. It isn't currently possible without the same network.

Edited October 28, 2016 by SniperPrincess

[Mattoropael]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

As nearly everyone above says, and they're correct, yes it's perfectly feasible. The data that is passed around the players in the session in order to make the whole online "magic" work is nothing more than a bunch of numbers. It doesn't matter where those numbers have come from or where they go to - they still mean the same thing.

 

However, Rockstar are too dumb to do anything like this. They can't even make races cross-platform, and I don't mean people on different platforms playing together. I mean that there is literally no reason other than a design choice to stop me being able to download a race on my PS4 that was made by someone on XB1. Sure, there are limitations that would stop a PS4 race being played on a PS3 or XB360, but that's not what I'm talking about.

 

Yes, it's possible, but like nearly everyone else has said the platform owners would need to shake on it first, but then it wouldn't happen because Rockstar.

It's not that simple. It's more complex than that. You have to remember that both Microsoft and Sony have their own networks and services. Connecting them together sounds much easier than it actually is. Just because you are playing the same game doesn't mean you would be able to play with people on different platforms.

 

 

That's precisely what it means.

 

If PS4/XB1 had different updates, or a different engine, or something, then yeah. But it's literally the same game. It would be practically trivial.

 

 

 

... Uh, no. That's literally like putting a PS3 disc into a PS4. It isn't compatible. People on this site have always wondered why Xbox players can't play with Playstation players. Hm, maybe because it isn't f*cking possible. Orrrr, to make you feel better, it isn't ~cUrReNtLy~ possible.

 

 

Just because you can't insert a Forza Horizon 3 disc on PC doesn't mean crossplay isn't possible.

 

It's mostly a matter of business decision, and calling it "isn't currently possible" is misleading - This kind of thing will always require additional coding, it's just the problem of how trivial it is to pull off.

 

[image]

 

(Not pictured: a multiplayer session. But you get the idea.)

 

How is saying "GTA crossplay between different platforms isn't currently possible" misleading? That's just standard logic. If that wasn't true, this topic wouldn't have been made. Do you have a magic console that allows you to play GTA with PC, PS4, XB1, PS3, and XB 360 players? If not, then yes it currently isn't possible. If it was, it would be happening. For the millionth time, there's the network issue.

 

 

You know damn well as I do that you're talking about technical possibility. This entire thread is about the possibility of crossplay since the very first post.

 

Word games won't save you.

 

Well buddy, that's what I meant. It isn't currently possible without the same network.

 

 

Keep dodging with how it isn't currently doable instead of how it isn't possible. The length that you're willing to go to dodge the question is still kind of amusing.

[SniperPrincess]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

As nearly everyone above says, and they're correct, yes it's perfectly feasible. The data that is passed around the players in the session in order to make the whole online "magic" work is nothing more than a bunch of numbers. It doesn't matter where those numbers have come from or where they go to - they still mean the same thing.

 

However, Rockstar are too dumb to do anything like this. They can't even make races cross-platform, and I don't mean people on different platforms playing together. I mean that there is literally no reason other than a design choice to stop me being able to download a race on my PS4 that was made by someone on XB1. Sure, there are limitations that would stop a PS4 race being played on a PS3 or XB360, but that's not what I'm talking about.

 

Yes, it's possible, but like nearly everyone else has said the platform owners would need to shake on it first, but then it wouldn't happen because Rockstar.

It's not that simple. It's more complex than that. You have to remember that both Microsoft and Sony have their own networks and services. Connecting them together sounds much easier than it actually is. Just because you are playing the same game doesn't mean you would be able to play with people on different platforms.

 

 

That's precisely what it means.

 

If PS4/XB1 had different updates, or a different engine, or something, then yeah. But it's literally the same game. It would be practically trivial.

 

 

 

... Uh, no. That's literally like putting a PS3 disc into a PS4. It isn't compatible. People on this site have always wondered why Xbox players can't play with Playstation players. Hm, maybe because it isn't f*cking possible. Orrrr, to make you feel better, it isn't ~cUrReNtLy~ possible.

 

 

Just because you can't insert a Forza Horizon 3 disc on PC doesn't mean crossplay isn't possible.

 

It's mostly a matter of business decision, and calling it "isn't currently possible" is misleading - This kind of thing will always require additional coding, it's just the problem of how trivial it is to pull off.

 

[image]

 

(Not pictured: a multiplayer session. But you get the idea.)

 

How is saying "GTA crossplay between different platforms isn't currently possible" misleading? That's just standard logic. If that wasn't true, this topic wouldn't have been made. Do you have a magic console that allows you to play GTA with PC, PS4, XB1, PS3, and XB 360 players? If not, then yes it currently isn't possible. If it was, it would be happening. For the millionth time, there's the network issue.

 

 

You know damn well as I do that you're talking about technical possibility. This entire thread is about the possibility of crossplay since the very first post.

 

Word games won't save you.

 

Well buddy, that's what I meant. It isn't currently possible without the same network.

 

 

Keep dodging with how it isn't currently doable instead of how it isn't possible. The length that you're willing to go to dodge the question is still kind of amusing.

 

You didn't even ask me a question. But alright, you do you.

[Shadowfennekin]

So it's Sony's problem it didn't happen? They're probably just scared like they were with Bethesda's mods, can't let anything happen to their "precious" system

 

I'm fine with Cross play so long as PC IS NOT included. You know they'd dominate Free Aim with mice. And the mod problem of course.

[Solid Scorpion]

PS's already done cross platform with PC.

Xbox's already done cross platform with PC.

PS to Xbox though?

In an ideal world it's a good idea, but sony would be bricking it giving Microsoft access to its potato servers.

[Rusty9130]

Oh my god.... you people will fight about anything.

 

Anyway, yeah I suppose based on the answers I've seen that it would he possible, at least for consoles. PC, eh...

[Tez2]

It would be possible if R* decided to use dedicated servers.

Currently they are using PSN/XBL services for matchmaking.

[_PANiC_]

they will never cross PC and Consoles in games like GTA and certainly not third or first person shooters. A mouse and keyboard will always win against handpad is those situation so would be completely unbalanced.

[Sagrawa]

Technically it is all possible, that's not what's stopping it. Only things holding it back are business related....Maybe Microsoft will decide at some point to cross-platform XBone/Scorpio with Windows to get an edge over Sony, maybe Sony and Microsoft will work together to hold off a competitive third-party console, maybe etc.etc.

[Mattoropael]

Technically it is all possible, that's not what's stopping it. Only things holding it back are business related....Maybe Microsoft will decide at some point to cross-platform XBone/Scorpio with Windows to get an edge over Sony, maybe Sony and Microsoft will work together to hold off a competitive third-party console, maybe etc.etc.

 

XBone/PC crossplatform multiplayer is already a thing on some titles. Sony on the other hand...