PS4 Bad sport lobbies are "full" again?

[Neuling2000]

Has anyone else noticed it? No more empty bad sport lobbies on PS4?

 

I check my bad sport account from time to time and I was always put in sessions alone over the last 10 months. Sometimes I've seen a few players there. But today I joined three sessions with 10 up to 15 other players.

 

Bad sport lobbies are fun again for all bad sports. Or maybe not, jets, ghost org and passive mode abuse even worse than in normal lobbies.

[REXX]

Never noticed. Then again, I've never been there

[Hunter]

I thought they replaced bad sport with being banned?

 

If they haven't, then everyone can stop worrying about blowing stuff up I guess.

[Furry_Monkey]

Sessions have been screwed for a while now, regardless of bad sport or not. I often start off in a session on my own, but can find other players if I switch. If I'm in a populated session and switch again then I'll probably end up on my own.

 

I don't think it's anything to do with bad sport, or ever has been. It's just a flaw in the game.

 

I'm not in bad sport, by the way.

Edited October 26, 2016 by Furry_Monkey

[Gnocchi Flip Flops]

I thought they replaced bad sport with being banned?

 

If they haven't, then everyone can stop worrying about blowing stuff up I guess.

Why would people think that? Do you think anybody would play this sh*t if they banned you for blowing up cars? Because I certainly wouldn't.

[Hunter]

Why would people think that?

There was a thread a few days ago about how the rules/banning system had been changed. It all got a bit muddled though, so you probably don't get banned.

[Gnocchi Flip Flops]

 

Why would people think that?

There was a thread a few days ago about how the rules/banning system had been changed. It all got a bit muddled though, so you probably don't get banned.

 

Good. I would've flipped out.

[OscarZetaAcosta]

 

Why would people think that?

There was a thread a few days ago about how the rules/banning system had been changed. It all got a bit muddled though, so you probably don't get banned.

No that is for people that grief an individual player and refuse to let them enjoy gta. If you follow people all over a lobby in a jet or constantly rejoin one person to mess with them then yes you can be banned. It comes back to the code of conduct section 2 that has existed since gta online started. It states you will not impede the gameplay of others. Killing someone doing a pvp job is ok. Killing a whole lobby in a jet is ok. But as soon as focus on one player and refuse to let them play you can be banned. Simple. If a player wins a pvp job walk away. If you win walk away. Spawn killing them after it will get you banned.

[Hunter]

But as soon as focus on one player and refuse to let them play you can be banned.

How does it detect this though? Through reports?

 

Because only the player reporting you chooses what he/she will report you for.

[TreFacTor]

Gotta love these people who beat their chests about being in bad sport. I've never been and I blow up any PV I want.

[OscarZetaAcosta]

 

But as soon as focus on one player and refuse to let them play you can be banned.

How does it detect this though? Through reports?

 

Because only the player reporting you chooses what he/she will report you for.

Reports then they verify it but to someone like me who's always filming they can see it easily.

[CarimboHanky]

how do people still get into badsport on ps4???!!

 

there are game mechanics that allow you blow up all the cars you want without getting badsport or paying insurance!

[Opzeker]

 

But as soon as focus on one player and refuse to let them play you can be banned.

How does it detect this though? Through reports?

 

Because only the player reporting you chooses what he/she will report you for.

Exactly.

 

Therefore;

 

[OscarZetaAcosta]

 

 

But as soon as focus on one player and refuse to let them play you can be banned.

How does it detect this though? Through reports?

 

Because only the player reporting you chooses what he/she will report you for.

Exactly.

 

Therefore;

 

Lmao ok have you ever checked stats on the social club? Fyi there's a section for you victim and it counts your number of kills on them. So the normal is less then 30 there. If you hit 100 kills or more on your victim stats you think they can't detect that? That plus players reporting for griefing will get you looked at really fast dude. They have a system in your stats to see this. And really you think they can't detect a 30 to 1 kd on a single player in a lobby? Edited October 27, 2016 by OscarZetaAcosta

[TreFacTor]

 

 

 

But as soon as focus on one player and refuse to let them play you can be banned.

How does it detect this though? Through reports?

 

Because only the player reporting you chooses what he/she will report you for.

Exactly.

 

Therefore;

 

Lmao ok have you ever checked stats on the social club? Fyi there's a section for you victim and it counts your number of kills on them. So the normal is less then 30 there. If you hit 100 kills or more on your victim stats you think they can't detect that? That plus players reporting for griefing will get you looked at really fast dude. They have a system in your stats to see this. And really you think they can't detect a 30 to 1 kd on a single player in a lobby?This is such bullsh*t. My wife accounts for half of my deaths and she's a griefer that can be banned for a report.

 

Lmfao

 

There's a daily objective that requires 20 player kills and you're telling me my wife can be banned if I reported her for griefing me because I let her shoot me in the face 100 times. GTFO.

Edited October 27, 2016 by TreFacTor

[mcgroin]

i don't think that metric is useful as it seems to reset all the time. Currently my Archenemy is unknown with 0 kills. I'm good but I'm not that good*. Now my stats are completely wrong across the board and perhaps I'm a special case in this regard but I'm still doubtful that this is a reliable indicator of griefery.

 

It also fails to pick up instances when you've access to really good weed and spend an evening playing "Revolver vs Molotov or "Leap the Entity" which will result in session KDR's way above 30-1.

 

*I'm not even not that good.

[Parth13]

 

But as soon as focus on one player and refuse to let them play you can be banned.

How does it detect this though? Through reports?

 

Because only the player reporting you chooses what he/she will report you for.

 

I think i got your answer, If you look into Combat stats right after someone kills you, you will see their name as your archenemy, I don't know if this tracks if you were killed in free-roam or not but as i was looking at them earlier my archenemy field said "Unknown" it said that because it's been more than 3 weeks or maybe even longer since someone killed me more than 2-3 times as i'm always in a session of my own(Invite-Friends) or i'm passive. It also shows that how many times has your archenemy killed you and how many times have you killed him.

Edit: someone posted that above.

Edited October 27, 2016 by Parth13

[Shadowfennekin]

Frankly, if anybody is dumb enough to get into BS they deserve it. It's ridiculously easy to not go there. Somebody driving a ugly as sin car? Bounty them or start a supply/crate run or Hostile Takeover and blow the thing to hell.

With the amount of assholes in FR going ghost and blowing sh*t up, I'm not surprised it is full.

 

how do people still get into badsport on ps4???!!

there are game mechanics that allow you blow up all the cars you want without getting badsport or paying insurance!

It's probably people who hound after crates/product. PV convoys accompanying them that get blown up are billed by people outside the Org/MC thankfully.

If somebody foolishly tried to go after a 8 person MC with only one van with the other 7 MCs on bikes next to it, I see him getting sent to bad sport land pretty fast. lol

 

And I don't think many are bright enough to know, some stay out of CEO/MC ranks so they can go passive as soon as somebody off radar/ghost/gets in a jet. Meaning if no event is going on anywhere they foot the bill/BS points of anything blown up.

[ciel]

I wouldn't know, never been there.

[OscarZetaAcosta]

 

 

 

 

But as soon as focus on one player and refuse to let them play you can be banned.

How does it detect this though? Through reports?

 

Because only the player reporting you chooses what he/she will report you for.

Exactly.

 

Therefore;

 

Lmao ok have you ever checked stats on the social club? Fyi there's a section for you victim and it counts your number of kills on them. So the normal is less then 30 there. If you hit 100 kills or more on your victim stats you think they can't detect that? That plus players reporting for griefing will get you looked at really fast dude. They have a system in your stats to see this. And really you think they can't detect a 30 to 1 kd on a single player in a lobby?This is such bullsh*t. My wife accounts for half of my deaths and she's a griefer that can be banned for a report.

 

Lmfao

 

There's a daily objective that requires 20 player kills and you're telling me my wife can be banned if I reported her for griefing me because I let her shoot me in the face 100 times. GTFO.

Well no she would be on your friends list and therefore would be excluded based on the fact that you are mutual friends. The game knows if you're friends or not in this as well.

 

i don't think that metric is useful as it seems to reset all the time. Currently my Archenemy is unknown with 0 kills. I'm good but I'm not that good*. Now my stats are completely wrong across the board and perhaps I'm a special case in this regard but I'm still doubtful that this is a reliable indicator of griefery.

 

It also fails to pick up instances when you've access to really good weed and spend an evening playing "Revolver vs Molotov or "Leap the Entity" which will result in session KDR's way above 30-1.

 

*I'm not even not that good.

Smart guy did I not say this excludes pvp jobs? Even blowing up a players cargo 20 times won't do anything. They did the job and asked for it. This applies to free mode while jobs are not happening. You can kill a kid doing head hunter 50 times in the 15mins and that is ok. Once the job ends if you continue then you can be banned. During jobs you are not griefing.

 

Also below arch enemy is "victim" look at thanks stat not the one where you got killed. This stat says if you grief or not unless your victim is a friend you kill everyday.

 

My victim is robbiegoodgamer and I have 82 kills on him. In normal circumstances I'd be a griefer as he's not a friend however this all happened on video. I blew up his cargo. He then tried to run me over 82 times and I shot him with a rpg every time. I then ask "are we done" he replied "not till u run out of money". Because he initiated the 82 to 6 score I did not grief him.

Edited October 27, 2016 by OscarZetaAcosta

[AndrewTfromNZ]

It states you will not impede the gameplay of others.

 

 

I'm not even sure of the rules now (and I've spent a quarter of my life for the past year playing gta).

 

I thought I saw a message telling me that someone was delivering some supplies or product and I should stop them to earn rp and money. I blew up a helicopter which was marked red on the map and I got a message that I was a bad sport and to be careful.

[OscarZetaAcosta]

 

It states you will not impede the gameplay of others.

 

I'm not even sure of the rules now (and I've spent a quarter of my life for the past year playing gta).

 

I thought I saw a message telling me that someone was delivering some supplies or product and I should stop them to earn rp and money. I blew up a helicopter which was marked red on the map and I got a message that I was a bad sport and to be careful.

They did a pvp job therefore this is void. Once their job is over it goes back into play. Get it? It's not griefing to bombs cargo or sales but it is to chase them after it. It's equal to a tdm. If you get 30 to 1 in a tdm it's not griefing. If you then spawn in freemode and continue that it then becomes griefing. Omg are you guy's high? Do you not get pvp job vs a player going to their apartment?

[Neuling2000]

how do people still get into badsport on ps4???!!

 

there are game mechanics that allow you blow up all the cars you want without getting badsport or paying insurance!

 

How can I avoid badsport with zero money, no office and no clubhouse when I want jetgriefing the whole lobby anytime? I don't care about badsport with my 2nd account. Next time is 512 days and they are coming soon.

[AndrewTfromNZ]

And what if I get a whole biker gang coming at me again and again. Am I supposed to defend myself without blowing up their bikes and cars?

[mcgroin]

"Revolver vs Molotov and "Leap the Entity" aren't PVP jobs. They're examples of free roam activities that I have engaged in (with people outside of my friends list) that have resulted in laughably lopsided kill counts. But I am a smart guy so you're not entirely wrong there.

 

Your entire premise seems to be based on a lot of speculation with precious little evidence. Do you actually know of anyone who has been banned solely for griefing? AFK trollers or jet griefers would be a prime example of someone who would be targeted by such a policy but I've never heard of it in almost three years of game play. Happy to be proven wrong though...

[StangOne50]

Frankly, if anybody is dumb enough to get into BS they deserve it. It's ridiculously easy to not go there. Somebody driving a ugly as sin car? Bounty them or start a supply/crate run or Hostile Takeover and blow the thing to hell.

With the amount of assholes in FR going ghost and blowing sh*t up, I'm not surprised it is full.

 

Some players like Bad Sport. I enjoy a trip to BS every now and then. It can be much more fun than normal lobbies. It can be more satisfying knowing you are killing the worst of the worst ;oD.. Not everyone is all about making money, doing races and other crap.

[OscarZetaAcosta]

"Revolver vs Molotov and "Leap the Entity" aren't PVP jobs. They're examples of free roam activities that I have engaged in (with people outside of my friends list) that have resulted in laughably lopsided kill counts. But I am a smart guy so you're not entirely wrong there.

 

Your entire premise seems to be based on a lot of speculation with precious little evidence. Do you actually know of anyone who has been banned solely for griefing? AFK trollers or jet griefers would be a prime example of someone who would be targeted by such a policy but I've never heard of it in almost three years of game play. Happy to be proven wrong though...

It seems to have never really been enforced and I'm stating gameplay of what I've seen from the community and the tos themself. It appears rockstar is now interested in seriously cleaning up gta by posting that and cleaning accounts of money. It would be a smart idea to take it seriously considering the new changes in gta. Ignore my opinion and tell me wrong. I didn't post like I was an employee that knew everything you ripped it apart like that and forced me to explain like you're 5 years old. At this point I'm done. This was a thread of opinions and you took mine ubber serious and cool be that guy. Maybe you should learn all post are opinions and they have a base that they came to that opinion on.

[VVIP]

How do u knw if u r bad sport?

[Skycam]

How do u knw if u r bad sport?

You have a paper cone on your head that says dunce and on your player card instead of clean player it says bad sport.

 

 

 

 

 

 

(I have so many things to say in this thread and I've tried so many times and wrote so many different paragraphs but I'm going to keep my thoughts and opinions to myself.)

How do u knw if u r bad sport?

Example of the hat you can't remove..

 

 

If you have this on your head you are a bad sport.

[mcgroin]

It seems to have never really been enforced and I'm stating gameplay of what I've seen from the community and the tos themself. It appears rockstar is now interested in seriously cleaning up gta by posting that and cleaning accounts of money. It would be a smart idea to take it seriously considering the new changes in gta. Ignore my opinion and tell me wrong. I didn't post like I was an employee that knew everything you ripped it apart like that and forced me to explain like you're 5 years old. At this point I'm done. This was a thread of opinions and you took mine ubber serious and cool be that guy. Maybe you should learn all post are opinions and they have a base that they came to that opinion on.

 

 

Apologies, that wasn't meant to come across as aggressive - it was a sincere invitation to put me straight if you were of something that I hadn't seen - hence the "Happy to be proven wrong." Your statements read like you were aware of concrete changes that had occurred since RockStar started wielding the big stick and I was merely skeptical that our kill stats would provide a satisfactory metric to identify griefing. Such are the limitations of text based conversation.

 

For the record, very little of what I post is intended to be taken seriously or even acknowledged for that matter. I am also 7 years old. So n'yah.

 

Edit: On reflection, it's probably not a good idea to pretend to be a child on an internet forum - even in jest.

Edited October 27, 2016 by mcgroin