Wiseguy94 Posted October 26, 2016 Share Posted October 26, 2016 Hey, a thought just occurred to me: Was Trevor ever really going to personally kill Michael after he learned the truth about Brad? Obviously, they have a standoff, Trevor makes threats toward Michael until the end of the game and he never tried to save him when he was being held by the Chinese, but would he really deprive Jimmy and Tracy of their dad? Furthermore, could he really bring himself to kill Michael? Michael himself couldn't do it (unless you chose the non-canon A ending) when he had many chances to. He could have pulled out his gun and shot Trevor while he was breaking open Brad's coffin. He could have shot Trevor in his house when his back was to him. But, he didn't. On the flip side, Trevor didn't warn Franklin not to save Michael. He was indifferent to it. What are your thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmy Posted October 26, 2016 Share Posted October 26, 2016 I don't think he'd have actually killed Michael. He makes threats all the time but they have a history to look upon, not just the Brad incident. As the game progresses, they are able to get through the issue of lies. And the part about Trevor not saving Michael from Chinese, I guess he still had some grudge on Michael. Also, I don't think the folks at Rockstar would want any of the three protagonists dying till the end game where you face the three choices. i5 10400F • MSI Z490-A PRO • XPG 16GB DDR4 3000MHz • MSI RX 570 4GB • NZXT H510 • Cooler Master MWE 650 V2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonesta Posted October 26, 2016 Share Posted October 26, 2016 To quote a different character in a different genre - Trevor will kill a man in a fair fight... or if he thinks he's gonna start a fair fight, or if he bothers him, or if there's a woman, or if he's gettin' paid. Mostly only when he's gettin' paid - and yet he never tries to kill Michael, despite having both opportunity and cause to do so (no one else has likely ever betrayed him the way Michael did). The fact that he didn't kill him suggests that the shared history is so deep that he never could. The Mysterious One and Payne Killer 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MCMXCII Posted October 31, 2016 Share Posted October 31, 2016 I think Trevor would hate himself even more if he killed Michael. As stated already, he has a lot of history with Michael and Trevor is also a really loyal friend. He is severely troubled While also being a bipolar drug addicted psychopath but I got the impression that he somewhat still has a heart but clearly has questionable ways of showing it. Payne Killer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaibasus Posted October 31, 2016 Share Posted October 31, 2016 For all his threats, I don't think he would've ever actually gone through with it. Reasoning: If you go with ending B, Trevor wants nothing to do with it and cuts Franklin off completely afterwards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niobium Posted November 2, 2016 Share Posted November 2, 2016 i know he didn't want to kill michael in B, but he did plot with lester to break out brad and make michael the fall guy. so who the fu*k knows, trevor is inconsistent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zello Posted November 2, 2016 Share Posted November 2, 2016 (edited) Yes a guy like Trevor was one bad day away from snapping and killing Michael Edited November 2, 2016 by Zello Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
combustion Posted November 3, 2016 Share Posted November 3, 2016 The only logical thing Trevor should, and would do, is kill Michael. There's no reason Trevor would keep the man he knows to be a psychopathic back-stabber around after the Union Depository heist. Michael could in-fact easily sell out Trevor to the FIB, or can even do sinister things like reveal his location to the Lost MC or the Vagos, all of them who want to kill Trevor, just for the 'extra cash' and the safety of his dear family. The only reason why Trevor didn't kill Michael, even though he had the chances, was because of their shared dream, do rob the UD. That's the reason Trevor travels all the way to Kortz Center to save Michael from IAA/Merryweather. I wouldn't be surprised if, Trevor, being psychologically unstable and a frequent meth abuser, easily snap and execute Michael, the same way he killed Johnny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaibasus Posted November 6, 2016 Share Posted November 6, 2016 Then why didn't he try to kill Michael after the UD heist? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
followthetraincj! Posted November 6, 2016 Share Posted November 6, 2016 Then why didn't he try to kill Michael after the UD heist? After the end of the game, if you go as Franklin and you have picked C, a while after everything ended and Lest sent you the money for THE BIG ONE, call both Michael and Trevor and hang out with both of them, you'll hear conversations where Trevor states he's forgiven Michael and he also mentions that "Brad was a bit of a dick, wasn't he?" He kind of drops those hate feelings towards Michael and just befriends him and they are going to be friends from there on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thatstupidbug Posted November 6, 2016 Share Posted November 6, 2016 (edited) After the end of the game, if you go as Franklin and you have picked C, a while after everything ended and Lest sent you the money for THE BIG ONE, call both Michael and Trevor and hang out with both of them, you'll hear conversations where Trevor states he's forgiven Michael and he also mentions that "Brad was a bit of a dick, wasn't he?" He kind of drops those hate feelings towards Michael and just befriends him and they are going to be friends from there on.Yes, Trevor is quite a strange and dangerous man, but he seems to have a very soft side for Michael and his family.Even if everything he knows was a lie, he could't bring himself to harm his old friend, and later he decided to forget what happened. As another user suggested, in Ending B he even decides NOT to help F kill michael.Maybe the script isn't too strong on this point (his change of heart felt sudden), but the evidences where there.Where GTA V drop the ball, however, is on Michael. Michael sudden forgivness toward Trevor, instead, is not really a plot hole, but more of a dropped storyline.Michael, until the end, WANTS to kill trevor. In ending A he is an active part of Trevor demise (see the difference with ending B?), he always plot to get rid of T once and for all oncethe JOB is done. Or what about bury the hatcher?They have a standoff and Wei cheng arrive. What trevor do? He escapes (see? He doesn't really hepl michael, but he can't harm him either) What michael do? HE SHOOT TREVOR IN THE BACK (missing him). He wants to actually kill him. And this plot point is never brought back. So to sum up: While Trevor's forgiveness with a single joke line isn't really good but it's coherent with his strange attitude and motivation, 'cause he wasn't able or willing to hurt michael directly, michael's forgiveness is too sudden for how they build him. Yes, trevor (indirectly) saved him from Wei cheng, but the same Wei cheng trevor escaped from in the cemetery (without helping M).I don't see (storyline wise) a single reason for Michael NOT to still want to kill trevor after ending C, even after some friendly talk and a beer.I still think this is a missed opportunity, or at least a dropped point, because it doesn't fit michael at all. Edited November 6, 2016 by thatstupidbug Dr. Robotnik 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Raven Posted November 11, 2016 Share Posted November 11, 2016 I don't think Trevor ever REALLY wanted to kill Michael. Even when he found out the truth about Brad in Burying the Hatchet he thought that he wanted to, but just as he was about to do it, he couldn't bring himself to. He was trying to really hard but you could see his finger was trembling on the trigger and instead he was screaming at Michael "COME ON! PULL THE TRIGGER! DO IT!". I believe he thought that although all of this is really, really bad, killing Michael would make it even worse for him. And in that brief moment he really did want to die, to both stop himself from killing Michael and end his own pain. In other words - even in one of his worst moments (if not THE worst moment) he only thought he wanted to kill Michael but when he tried, he could not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dacoolkidgamer Posted November 12, 2016 Share Posted November 12, 2016 Trevor and Michael go way back and have lots of history. I don't think he really wanted Mike dead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GameVade Posted November 13, 2016 Share Posted November 13, 2016 No. I say this because, I believe Trevor sees parallels to himself in Michael. The chaos and disorder, and it incites some form of conscience in regards to his friend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mokrie Dela Posted November 14, 2016 Share Posted November 14, 2016 Trevor's a character that's written inconsistently. He preaches about loyalty and get shows none himself; scorns wade about calling Ashley a bitch but kills Flloyd's partner when anyone would just walk away. He's intended to be an unstable psychopath, and any attempts to show a hidden 'softer'/'saner' side are half-assed. So on one hand yes he would kill Michael; he's killed people for less. And yet on the other, no he wouldn't; he has loyalty there. He's just a whining pathetic cry baby "way wah wah, toy ran away," where he'd do the exact same thing if he needed. I wouldn't look too much into such a character. The game's canon ending is likely 'death wish' (can't remember the letter... c?), so the end game thing isn't relevant. Trevor's actions are kind of proof ; instead of outright killing him (how many chances did he have? Lots) he works with him. Perhaps because rockstar backed themselves into a corner with that - if he did kill Michael, it'd hinder the game and the 'story', yet that's 75% of the story. I also fail to believe f or m would kill t, either. The only true wisdom is in knowing you know nothing. Click here to view my Poetry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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