Do you manage to get anything done in public sessions?

[ceerup]

always do things in public lobbies. no one really messes with me and if they do i grief them til they leave. or ill have a squad with me. once in a blue moon ill run into a hydra then ill call up lester get to the safehouse, leave go ghost and take out the hydra and grief til they leave or go passive

[Suq Maddiq]

I always play in private session unless i have daily that requires me to kill player,set bounty,etc.

[-LN-]

I'm not afraid of defending myself against other players (unless it's jet griefers--I don't waste my time); I don't mind a bit of PvP (if it is contained within a controlled and regulated environment such as a Deathmatch or LTS); and I could not possibly care any less about my K/D ratio or people's "git gud, u newb skrub b*tch" taunts.

 

However, the new title under my name aptly describes where you will find me if I am not in the middle of playing a job. I've never been able or even keen on getting anything done in a public lobby, so I always immediately load into Invite Only and decide what to do from there.

 

I've wanted to step outside the comfort zone and give public servers another chance in regards to the new content, but eh, I keep hearing too many horror stories about jets blowing up your product, not having enough time to complete objectives unless you're fortunate enough to find a reliable person or person(s) to assist, and the fact that you're just as likely to get kicked by other players for simply being there (for apprehensions that I do understand).

 

So, for me, it is just not worth the overall hassle and sure, I likely miss out on some content that could have potential, but I'll just stick to what I've been doing for nearly three years. Not interested in sinking my GTA money into something that could be taken away with a split second of someone's jet rocket; not interested in aimless free roam fights; and since the image and experience of free roam is so tainted with a less than stellar reputation, I'm content with lone wolfing my experiences in Invite Only and seeking like-minded individuals in the manner that I have since day one--from jobs and other common interests.

 

I try to seek fun within this broken game, not more frustration and disappointment.

Edited October 26, 2016 by -LN-

[BlackMilk]

Sometimes the game doesn't want you playing with others. Switched sessions four times now and noone in them but me every time.

Suck it, kickers.

[Schumy7]

Offcourse i can. But deliver a slow van(or 3) to the other side of the map is a real challenge.

[BlackMilk]

Offcourse i can. But deliver a slow van(or 3) to the other side of the map is a real challenge.

You could just sell them close by instead! Did that on my own when the session was empty, had some time to spare too.

If you always steal your supplies and you make sure you don't pay upkeep every single in-game day (or however often it is) by disbanding the MC, you'll still make a nice profit depending on what businesses you're using.

 

I sell close when I'm alone, far when I have help. Works well!

[jdwarfer]

When I'm alone I always sell one "bar", so I have only one vehicle to use. And I choose the other side of the map to get more money. It's around $84k for the coke factory. It's faster than waiting for the thing to be full.

[Schumy7]

 

Offcourse i can. But deliver a slow van(or 3) to the other side of the map is a real challenge.

You could just sell them close by instead! Did that on my own when the session was empty, had some time to spare too.

If you always steal your supplies and you make sure you don't pay upkeep every single in-game day (or however often it is) by disbanding the MC, you'll still make a nice profit depending on what businesses you're using.

 

I sell close when I'm alone, far when I have help. Works well!

I know. Did alot of sel work in both mc and ceo (i love the mess of money and stuf on the ground) but its stil challenging in full lobby's.

[Skycam]

I get plenty done in free roam despite the battles i get in

This^

 

 

I love my hydra

 

 

After spending so much time in bad sport clean lobbies really are a piece of cake. The "skill" bar is so low. I'm not saying I'm amazing at this game, just that most players are not good. Yes I run into better players a lot but the vip/ceo missions/challenges are pretty hard to lose if you know what you are doing and what jobs and abilities to use when the time is right. I also don't have many issues running crates either because I do it with others so I'm not doing all the work myself (it's so boring alone, I tried). I fly my hydra while my associates fly the company buzzard, sometimes they have there own pegasus vehicle or just choose to drive their car, which is ok because that means more targets for the enemies.

 

I've destroyed more of my own crates then others destroyed mine. Lol. Damn player error on my part underestimating splash damage.

 

Crate buys are perfect the way they are in my opinion. I buy 1 for 2k you get that 2k if you catch me. Seems fair, if I want to risk more that's on me.. that said..

 

Sell missions are a bit different. I have mixed feelings about the way they are set up, I don't have much experience with them and every sell i did be it my wearhouse or a buddies was in a very quiet lobby. Hasn't stopped me from sabotaging others sales but I do think it's rather sh*tty we/they lose everything. I haven't actively targeted sells since shortly after they were introduced but I have stopped a few in the past. My opinions change all the time though, I like to think it's my character changing with experience.

 

My opinions if you are going to sell make sure you have plenty of backup or sell in an empty lobby. If you sell alone in a populated public lobby you have nobody to blame but yourself. You know what's at stake.

[BlackMilk]

 

 

Offcourse i can. But deliver a slow van(or 3) to the other side of the map is a real challenge.

You could just sell them close by instead! Did that on my own when the session was empty, had some time to spare too.

If you always steal your supplies and you make sure you don't pay upkeep every single in-game day (or however often it is) by disbanding the MC, you'll still make a nice profit depending on what businesses you're using.

 

I sell close when I'm alone, far when I have help. Works well!

I know. Did alot of sel work in both mc and ceo (i love the mess of money and stuf on the ground) but its stil challenging in full lobby's.

 

Doing it in a full session? Challenging is not the word I'd use. Suicidal perhaps. Or if you want more than one word, asking for it. Or setting yourself up for failure. With even a single other player there is ALWAYS a chance they'll try something, sure. But if there's 10+ (random number) people in, you're just tempting fate.

[Skycam]

always do things in public lobbies. no one really messes with me and if they do i kill them til they leave. or ill have a squad with me. once in a blue moon ill run into a hydra then ill call up lester get to the safehouse, leave go ghost and take out the hydra and kill til they leave or go passive

FTFY... 🖒

 

Swapped grief with kill.. Probably could have swapped it with play but I don't think it would have worked aswell.

[Schumy7]

 

 

 

Offcourse i can. But deliver a slow van(or 3) to the other side of the map is a real challenge.

You could just sell them close by instead! Did that on my own when the session was empty, had some time to spare too.

If you always steal your supplies and you make sure you don't pay upkeep every single in-game day (or however often it is) by disbanding the MC, you'll still make a nice profit depending on what businesses you're using.

 

I sell close when I'm alone, far when I have help. Works well!

I know. Did alot of sel work in both mc and ceo (i love the mess of money and stuf on the ground) but its stil challenging in full lobby's.

 

Doing it in a full session? Challenging is not the word I'd use. Suicidal perhaps. Or if you want more than one word, asking for it. Or setting yourself up for failure. With even a single other player there is ALWAYS a chance they'll try something, sure. But if there's 10+ (random number) people in, you're just tempting fate.Well its easyer than you think. Try it once i would say. If there are a bunch of hydra's... different story -_-.

 

Surprisingly enough i died only a few times with van delivery's.

Edited October 26, 2016 by Schumy7

[Skycam]

 

 

 

 

Offcourse i can. But deliver a slow van(or 3) to the other side of the map is a real challenge.

You could just sell them close by instead! Did that on my own when the session was empty, had some time to spare too.

If you always steal your supplies and you make sure you don't pay upkeep every single in-game day (or however often it is) by disbanding the MC, you'll still make a nice profit depending on what businesses you're using.

 

I sell close when I'm alone, far when I have help. Works well!

I know. Did alot of sel work in both mc and ceo (i love the mess of money and stuf on the ground) but its stil challenging in full lobby's.

 

Doing it in a full session? Challenging is not the word I'd use. Suicidal perhaps. Or if you want more than one word, asking for it. Or setting yourself up for failure. With even a single other player there is ALWAYS a chance they'll try something, sure. But if there's 10+ (random number) people in, you're just tempting fate.

 

 

Tempting fate.. Maybe in regards to sells, yes. All the other activities though.. come on, Personally I'd rather be in a full lobby running Executive search or Piracy prevention and I'd much rather have a team while I'm buying crates full lobby or not.

[BlackMilk]

 

 

 

 

Offcourse i can. But deliver a slow van(or 3) to the other side of the map is a real challenge.

You could just sell them close by instead! Did that on my own when the session was empty, had some time to spare too.

If you always steal your supplies and you make sure you don't pay upkeep every single in-game day (or however often it is) by disbanding the MC, you'll still make a nice profit depending on what businesses you're using.

 

I sell close when I'm alone, far when I have help. Works well!

I know. Did alot of sel work in both mc and ceo (i love the mess of money and stuf on the ground) but its stil challenging in full lobby's.

 

Doing it in a full session? Challenging is not the word I'd use. Suicidal perhaps. Or if you want more than one word, asking for it. Or setting yourself up for failure. With even a single other player there is ALWAYS a chance they'll try something, sure. But if there's 10+ (random number) people in, you're just tempting fate.Well its easyer than you think. Try it once i would say. If there are a bunch of hydra's... different story -_-.

 

Surprisingly enough i died only a few times with van delivery's.

 

That's the thing, and here comes the reason for people kicking other peaceful players: you cannot predict what others will do.

A player's location can quickly change. And so can whatever it is they're doing, their current target (if any) and whatever vehicle they are using.

Theoretically, you can join a full session where noone is using a Hydra. And minutes later they could all be in Hydra's.

Since a lot of the interactions between players are just reactions, what you see in one moment is barely a guarantee that the near future is going to look the same. I'm not going to try to sell anything in a crowded session because I sell for money. If I want to fight someone, I'll do it without the added challenge of having to safeguard over a million dollars in vulnerable vehicles.

 

It all depends on what you want. Collecting a crate or two or doing a supply run for free, there's not too much risk there and you don't stand to lose much or even anything if you lose your stuff. But if you're selling crates or product with the intent of making money, you're a fool to try it in a crowded session. Bad luck exists. Groups can form. Other things can happen. Again, if you're looking to have some interactions with other people then by all means find a session with some players in it. But you sell in a high-pop session, you're asking for trouble. And you'll get sympathy from noone when you lose your money.

[Schumy7]

^^Well welcome to Los Santos

[DrSweatySphincter]

I can't because I lag out lol

[Rewdalf]

Usually not.

 

One of the guys I play with is very spiteful, so usually he'll go on a crusade to chase away anyone who attacks him without reason.

And people who attack him with reason.

 

More often our "money making" sessions end in griefer fighting.

[Forza Harrd]

I spend most of my time in invite only "doing stuff", just so I can afford to go in public lobbies and actually have fun.

 

Grinding in invite only is a lot of fun now that I'm getting sort of good with a Buzzard, and EVERYTHING in freeroam is a lot of fun for the same reason.

 

It helps that I couldn't care less about my k/d ratio.

[Skycam]

Usually not.

 

One of the guys I play with is very spiteful, so usually he'll go on a crusade to chase away anyone who attacks him without reason.

And people who attack him with reason.

 

More often our "money making" sessions end in fighting.

FTFY.. 🖒

[Rewdalf]

 

Usually not.

 

One of the guys I play with is very spiteful, so usually he'll go on a crusade to chase away anyone who attacks him without reason.

And people who attack him with reason.

 

More often our "money making" sessions end in fighting.

FTFY..

 

 

Not much a fight when it ends up being ridiculously one-sided.

[Skycam]

 

 

Usually not.

 

One of the guys I play with is very spiteful, so usually he'll go on a crusade to chase away anyone who attacks him without reason.

And people who attack him with reason.

 

More often our "money making" sessions end in fighting.

FTFY..

 

Not much a fight when it ends up being ridiculously one-sided.

Not really griefing when it's the game.. that's all I was saying by that bud. Only my opinions don't mean to start trouble.

[TaylorTheCreator]

Public sessions are not as bad as people say they are, just don't bother people or try to provoke/taunt anyone and you'll be good

 

 

i usually do get stuff done because i keep switching lobbies until i see one that is mainly low levels, they usually leave you alone

[Rewdalf]

 

 

 

Usually not.

 

One of the guys I play with is very spiteful, so usually he'll go on a crusade to chase away anyone who attacks him without reason.

And people who attack him with reason.

 

More often our "money making" sessions end in fighting.

FTFY..

 

Not much a fight when it ends up being ridiculously one-sided.

Not really griefing when it's the game.. that's all I was saying by that bud. Only my opinions don't mean to start trouble.

 

 

I meant that it's one sided for the other guys.

 

If they want to complain they're allowed to.

They're also allowed to leave or go passive, but most of the time they don't.

[gtafan26]

I dont bother to try and get anything done in a public session anymore outside of Privacy Prevention

[Rocket Skates]

My favorite thing about public lobbies is lagging out of them.

[deadx23]

I also "get things done" lagging people out for the sake of gameplay

[Spadge]

Thanks for the contributions so far peeps, appreciated!

 

I actually got into a pub session today and had a great time. Here are a few patterns I could pinpoint which have a positive effect on a gameplay type similar to mine:

 

- Medium populated sessions with lower levels and few to no organizations/MCs are a good place to start an enterprise and recruit people.

- Using the chat, being friendly, forthcoming and sociable will attract the right people towards you, also marks your name and presence into people's conscience, making it more likely that they'll react to your invitations and suggestions.

--> I was letting people know that I was looking for members for my motorcycle club, also giving them a general incentive to join.

- If you have a good microphone and are well-worded, you can make full use of the VOIP feature, be careful though as I've seen it backfire on people before.

 

To the questions in the thread:

 

- I play on PC, the age bracket is slightly different, you will still encounter younger players, though. I think the smart PC crowd is already in private sessions, the pub population also has, just like on consoles, it's fair share of morons and assholes, just even more arrogant.

- If you need clear elaboration towards why the GTA V PvP system is inorganic and simplistic, you should look to games which do PvP right, for instance, Battlefield 1942 (Or Battlefield Heroes' rendition: 'Wicked Wake'), APB Reloaded, Team Fortress 2 etc. Also, a bit of common sense, the map in GTA, unlike in other games like All Points Bulletin, hasn't been designed for the sake of PvP, but for scenery, story, and exploration, which leaves a lot of spots vulnerable to abuse. This is a direct consequence of the fact that PvP is a feature that has only been implemented later on in development.

 

If there are any like-minded folks in the GTAF crew on PC, let me know, we can get together!

 

Speaking more broadly, I think Grand Theft Auto, in its structuration, is not the best subject for a multiplayer project like online. You can have creative, productive fun in public sessions, but generally, it requires patience; as the odds are stacked against these aspirations trough some of the inorganic game features and mostly the player mindset itself. The discussion we had so far, persuaded me that fun in pub sessions is definitely possible, but I'm still strongly convinced that GTA's best multiplayer aspects are best unleashed in smaller sessions, in a less chaotic and peaceful environment, where you have the ability to fully immerse yourself in the open-world environment and take full advantage of the game's depth and deep creative resources.

 

Edited October 27, 2016 by Spadge

[LincolnClay]

Rarely. Mostly, it's CEO or MC Missions I try and get done but 60-70 percent of the time some random level 8000 bombs me in a Hydra or some other player asks to help me out only to mess things up and (maybe) ruin the mission (example: destroying crates in a delivery mission).

[Revoemag]

I get nervous if I leave passive mode, so I don't do anything that requires me to leave passive mode.

i haven't left my apartment in 3 years..

[SuhPlexCity]

Nope and I don't recommend trying either. The missions for the CEO and MC stuff are to time consuming to run the risk of having some arsehole ruin everything.