How to balance Pegasus' combat vehicles

[evd]

In my opinion the whole idea of having overpowered vehicles shouldnt be avaible to buy. Instead, player should've to steal them from the spawning points, and store somewhere.

The more op vehicles is, the less it appear in the free roam. Basing on random events, such as Insurgents and Valkyria heist setup missions player can steal them, store, and use them in the future. If the vehicles gets blown up, You need to get another one. Where is the fun, if you can call for another. Imagine doing CEO, some guy gets unlimited oppurtinities to dominate you if all he does is calling for hydra.

Random events should also correlate to the date (days of the week) and precise hour.

Example: player tries to steal a lazer from the zancudo. After setting an alarm (ant this should be avoidable) he has one life to get to the OP vehicle.
If he wont do it succesfully, the vehicles will get locked for good.

Spawn Locations:

Aircraft carrier: (Unblipped, cruising around the map. Call lester to get to information about last seen location for 20 000 $. It circles the map with very wide loops). No respawning on the aircraft.
open hours:
Lazer 5:00-10:00 ALL WEEK
Hydra 8:00-10:00 ALL WEEK

Fort Zancudo:
Lazer 7:00-10:00 and 16:00-19:00 MON, WED
Hydra 9:00-15:00 THU.
Rhino 14:00-18.00 SUN
Valkyria 18:00- 6:00 SAT, WED

Merryweather hangar:
Insurgent 20:00-4:00 WED, THUR, FRI, SAT
Insurgent Pickup 23:00 -1:00 FRI, SAT
Buzzard 6:00 - 18:00 MON, THUR, SAT


Army and Merryweather is not affected by Leters' "Blind Eye".


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The next step to balance it out is to put all Explosive guns and throwables into dropping crates from the Merrywather, making Ammunation selling only guns like pistols and riffles.

Also, every stolen OP vehicle is rewarded with 10 000 RP

Edited October 24, 2016 by evd

[HeavyDuke]

Not gonna happen.

[We Are Ninja]

While it'll never happen, I like the idea of making jets more difficult to get a hold of than, say, a car from my mechanic...

 

*Waits patiently for the trolls and griefers to descend upon this thread like carrion birds*

Edited October 24, 2016 by We Are Ninja

[TreFacTor]

Not gonna happen.

Doesn't seem to stop people from making threads about it.

Edited October 24, 2016 by TreFacTor

[HeavyDuke]

carrion birds

 

 

Seriously though, the old days was perfect. I used to be able to just call the mechanic and he would deliver my PV Lazer.

Edited October 24, 2016 by HeavyDuke

[Mr_Zombly]

I'd prefer just having cooldowns for armed pegasus vehicles, with the length of the cooldowns being based on how powerful the vehicle is.

 

It's ridiculous that I can get shot out of my hydra, parachute out, and literally land on top of another one without my feet touching the ground.

Edited October 24, 2016 by Mr_Zombly

[evd]

yeah, this basically sounds like a HARDCORE mode for the multiplayer.

 

Also hide the blips as default, and implement a feature that connects all police car radios.

[LL Cool L]

how to balance:

 

remove all military grade vehicles....we should not be able to own tanks, lazers, hunters, savages etc

 

 

they should be extremely hard to steal as well, almost impossible

Edited October 24, 2016 by LL Cool L

[Duckdude001]

i wish i could store the swat truck in my garage, its such a cool armoured truck..

[deadx23]

They should release more jets

[Pedinhuh]

-Remove the Hydra from Pegasus list;

-Return the 3 million GTA$ that players needed to buy it;

-Make it spawn at random times of the days the in the aircraft carrier, at southeast of LS;

-Make a radius of 300m around the carrier into a no-fly zone;

-Disable Lester's blind eye ability for flying and roaming into said zones;

-Apply the above for Fort Zancudo;

-Permanent 5 star wanted level for those who are flying the Lazer and Hydra;

-Enemy AI jets spawns after the players who stole the jets, they will keep on spawning until the players dies or ditches the jets.

 

If none of these are happening, then nerf the jets.

[evd]

i wish i could store the swat truck in my garage, its such a cool armoured truck..

 

We need a sort of werehouse storage for those blacklisted cars. Could be a part of Outlaws and Tuners DLC, very similar to Biker bussinesses.

 

 

this is what should be done with every OP vehicle:

-Remove the Hydra from Pegasus list;

-Return the 3 million GTA$ that players needed to buy it;

-Make it spawn at random times of the days the in the aircraft carrier, at southeast of LS;

-Make a radius of 300m around the carrier into a no-fly zone;

-Disable Lester's blind eye ability for flying and roaming into said zones;

-Apply the above for Fort Zancudo;

-Permanent 5 star wanted level for those who are flying the Lazer and Hydra;

-Enemy AI jets spawns after the players who stole the jets, they will keep on spawning until the players dies or ditches the jets.

Edited October 24, 2016 by evd

[Pedinhuh]

yeah, this basically sounds like a HARDCORE mode for the multiplayer.

 

Also hide the blips as default, and implement a feature that connects all police car radios.

I'd play in this hardcore mode all day just to get a peace of mind and do some free roam activities that are exclusive to public lobbies.

 

This way, everyone wins.

[The Wandering Hunter]

too late

 

and the jets are the only two vehicles that are overpowered

 

i have never been scared of a heli

Edited October 24, 2016 by The Sole Survivor

[evd]

maybe, but I dont think so.

 

What if someone hunts down Pegasus Corporation for supporting terrorism?

 

Its their gane, they know how to pull it, make it work and everybody happy.

Edited October 24, 2016 by evd

[Pedinhuh]

too late

 

and the jets are the only two vehicles that are overpowered

 

i have never been scared of a heli

Currently the helis are sitting ducks for the HRL, so yeah, there aren't a threat all to players on ground and are quite balanced between each other(apart from the Annihilator, that thing is a piece of sh*t).

 

If the fixes I suggested could be applied to the game, then I wouldn't mind it they removed the HRL at all.

[VVIP]

LOL it's not gonna happen and it's too late now

[DangerZ0neX]

Instead of giving a simple issue a complex solution, just take away the ability to turn on passive from every armed vehicle and buff every one of them except for the jets.

 

I swear, these threads get more effort spent in them than midterm essays.

[Pedinhuh]

LOL it's not gonna happen and it's too late now

I remember when people here said that to Heists, Lowriders and Biker DLCs, and look at what happened.

 

It's not too late for this at all, this is Rockstar's game and they can what they want it as they please.

[evd]

too late

 

and the jets are the only two vehicles that are overpowered

 

i have never been scared of a heli

 

but it has other side: every combat vehicle can be considered as special vehice, hard to obtain. each one can be a point to getting another, better one etc. Insurgent pick up is too badass to be as easy obtainable as a limo.

[lol232]

And here I am, using Hydra mostly as a form of quick transport.

Edited October 24, 2016 by lol232

[We Are Ninja]

too late

 

and the jets are the only two vehicles that are overpowered

 

i have never been scared of a heli

Eh... I've seen badass heli pilots waltz around HL rockets gracefully, while laying waste to ground targets. None of that "running from rockets in a circle" bullsh*t...

[Mr_Zombly]

-Remove the Hydra from Pegasus list;

-Return the 3 million GTA$ that players needed to buy it;

 

And here I am, using Hydra mostly as a form of quick transport.

 

 

Remove Hydra, give owners option to have unarmed version of it and 500k-1m in cash, or to have their 3m back, and put unarmed version on warstock.

[Hunter]

Aircraft: (Unblipped, cruising around the map. Call lester to get to information about last seen location for 20 000 $. It circles the map with very wide loops).

How are you supposed to steal a vehicle mid-air?

 

Also, vehicles like the Buzzard, Savage, Rhino, Valkyrie, etc. aren't near powerful enough to need this kind of restriction on them. Not unless they get buffed.

 

I quite like the concept of storing them in a hangar somewhere (that would also imply them possibly having customization options, which is a huge plus).

 

But until some of the some vehicles are buffed to an extent that they're actually threatening, this is too much for them. Also, it seems like quite a dramatic change. Will people be refunded for all their Pegasus vehicles? What about the unarmed Pegasus vehicles?

[evd]

Unarmed/unarmored are untouched.

 

Player gets refund 50% of the cost so its quite reasonable.

 

Yes, storing them actually could provide a tuning option with a custom mechanic who could buff them out and change livery.

 

Sorry about misleading with aircraft thing, i was about the military carrier

Edited October 24, 2016 by evd

[Brutal Trout]

 

LOL it's not gonna happen and it's too late now

I remember when people here said that to Heists, Lowriders and Biker DLCs, and look at what happened.

 

It's not too late for this at all, this is Rockstar's game and they can what they want it as they please.

 

 

Still not gonna happen.

[Hunter]

Unarmed/unarmored are untouched.

 

Player gets refund 50% of the cost so its quite reasonable to SELL them.

Unarmed stuff being left is good, though I think people should get all their money back for the armed ones - I mean, it's not like they'd be choosing to sell them.

 

Yes, storing them actually could provide a tuning option with a custom mechanic who could buff them out and change livery.

This I like the sound of. If the stuff I like would actually be powerful, then I wouldn't mind it being more limited than it is now. With customization options as a bonus, yeah I could get behind it.

 

Sorry about misleading with aircraft thing, i was about the military carrier

Oh I see now. Yeah that could work.

[evd]

Crazy liveries should substitute respraying to avoid having chrome lazers and pink tanks. this joke is old.

[Mach1bud]

I much rather be able to have freedom to do whatever I please, whenever I please.

 

I don't want bogus restrictions on when I can use a certain vehicle, or what I can or cannot buy.

[A Maned Wolf]

Just roll back the Hydra spawns to airstrip only and swap the vehicle handling string of the Savage and Valkyrie with that of the Frogger, instead of the current annihilator handling string.