watersgta3 Posted November 29, 2017 Share Posted November 29, 2017 Wow. Now I remember why Osho was a colossal troll. San Andreas story more complex and GTA IV has little plot to tell? LMAO. Man that Osho guy was a dogmatic asshole! He always attacked anyone who likes any character he hates and calls them fanboys or anything tantamount to such, which is pretty hypocritical considering that he praised the sh*t out of CJ and defended everything he did. And when someone who argues back at him refuted his claims and/or called him out on his bullsh*t, he either hid that person's comment or reported them because he was too much of a coward to take it to the chin. The guy was a delusional coward. I'm glad that asshole got banned from this site. Algonquin Assassin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Excalibur Voltaire Posted November 29, 2017 Share Posted November 29, 2017 (edited) Thinking about it, i have to agree with Algonquin about Martin. While I think he could still pussy to Trevor, there shoulf be one point when Michael and Trevor beef where Martin betrayed Michael and try to kill him, and trevor came to rescue Michael (just like The Wrap Up) and kill Martin Anyway I think Ryder shouldn't been antagonist, he should be the tritagonist, and assist CJ journey throughout San Andreas along with Cesar and Kendl, instead of just made him betray GSF for no reason and made his death really cheap Edited November 29, 2017 by CGFforLife Misunderstood, Beato_dim and KingAJ032304 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tycek Posted November 29, 2017 Share Posted November 29, 2017 (edited) Oscar Guzman is definitely one of these guys that could use more of screen time. If you don't recall the guy he's Trevor's contact in the gun running business and he's shown in the game for like 10 seconds max. However, if you listen to his conversations with Trevor during said missions, he seems to be professional with a lot of knowledge about gangs and a proper know how about weapon trafficking. Martin Mandrazo as the people before stated also had a lot of potential. Intimidating boss of one of the most powerful cartels in SA, rich enough to have almost unlimited access to men and powerful guns. Instead of one the most scary antagonists in the series we got a wimp who was shown in two missions and run with a tail between his legs because some methhead bite his ear off. Edited November 30, 2017 by Tycek billiejoearmstrong8 and TommyPayne123 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niobium Posted December 2, 2017 Share Posted December 2, 2017 martin madrazo. i hate that he cowered in fear after a hillbilly canadian tore off his ear. the martin madrazo that hit michael with a baseball bat would have absolutely brutalized trevor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burnstern Posted December 2, 2017 Share Posted December 2, 2017 U.L Paper I found this shadowy character fascinating in IV, and he didn't outstay his welcome unlike certain government characters in V. His cameo could have been great in V. I'm actually more annoyed about his appearance in it than that of Klebitz. It made absolutely no sense whatsoever and just felt like a wasted opportunity. Algonquin Assassin, Tycek and billiejoearmstrong8 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Algonquin Assassin Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 (edited) U.L Paper I found this shadowy character fascinating in IV, and he didn't outstay his welcome unlike certain government characters in V. His cameo could have been great in V. I'm actually more annoyed about his appearance in it than that of Klebitz. It made absolutely no sense whatsoever and just felt like a wasted opportunity. To be fair R* probably didn't want to give the superior GTA IV/EFLC cameos much screen time in GTA V in fear that people would reject the newer characters. The weird thing about The U.L Paper contact in GTA V is he looks younger for some strange reason. Roman Bellic. I wished he had more presence in the story than being sidelined. He felt a lot more interesting to me. Quite an original character. I would have loved to see the story revolve around him as the main protagonist in IV. Roman a protagonist? lol. I could understand someone like Little Jacob or Packie as an alternative protagonist because they're already hardened criminals, but Roman? He isn't even a criminal. Before Niko arrived on his doorstep he was happy to be Vlad's bitch whilst he ran a ok taxi depot. Roman's too scared to defend himself in any sort of way. It's bad enough we already have CJ filling the void as the protagonist that has no balls to stand up for himself. Roman's a good side character, but protagonist material he is not. Edited December 4, 2017 by Algonquin Assassin TommyPayne123 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TommyPayne123 Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 Carlos (GTA V) I wish he could have at least had an interaction with michael in a cutscene. Joey Leone (GTA III) I wish he could have given toni missions in GTA LCS. Ryder (GTA SA) Would have loved to have done missions with him in San Fierro and Las Venturas, but nope, they just had to make him a snake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danilchek Posted December 4, 2017 Share Posted December 4, 2017 (edited) 8-Ball or Joey Leone in LCS and Darkel in III. Too bad that these characters have forgotten. Edited July 10, 2019 by Cyberprank Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cerdopalo Posted August 5, 2020 Share Posted August 5, 2020 ryder he could be gta san andreas stories protagonist and help cj in san fierro in gta sa emmet he appears in 1 mission and he give you guns big bear he appear in beta as a big role og loc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evil empire Posted August 5, 2020 Share Posted August 5, 2020 If I have to pick one: Ryder. cerdopalo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RtRick Posted August 5, 2020 Share Posted August 5, 2020 GTA Vice City: Leo Teal GTA SA : Ryder GTA III: 8- Ball GTA IV : Gordon Sargent GTA V : Martin Madrazo cerdopalo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billiejoearmstrong8 Posted August 5, 2020 Share Posted August 5, 2020 (edited) Wasted potential? Franklin Clinton Martin Madrazo Stretch Wei Cheng Ursula Maude Simeon Yetarian Oscar Guzman Taliana Martinez Chef There's so much wasted potential in V. Needed way more missions for the amount of characters it had. There's characters from other GTA games that I'd like to have seen more of and had the potential for that, but none that really compare on the wasted potential front where you feel like they could've been so much more. Maybe Eddie Low from IV, since he was such a good creepy character and we only met him twice. Edited August 5, 2020 by billiejoearmstrong8 cerdopalo, Bratva Assassin, kobeni and 3 others 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhettoJesus Posted August 5, 2020 Share Posted August 5, 2020 (edited) Plenty. 8 Ball, Pastor Richards, Avery Carrington, Cam Jones, Big Bear, B-Dup, Martin Madrazo, Chef, Stretch. That's all that come to my mind at the moment. Edited August 5, 2020 by GhettoJesus VenusianDream and cerdopalo 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VenusianDream Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 (edited) GTA III: Old Oriental Gentleman GTA VC: Cam Jones GTA SA: Ryder GTA LCS: Vincezo Cilli GTA VCS: Jerry Martinez GTA IV: Jermaine, Jason, Bulgarin GTA V: Johnny, Tanisha, Hao, Chef, Mr. Kenneth, Martin Madrazo, Stretch, Wei Cheng, alot of characters actually Edited August 7, 2020 by VenusianDream Mr. Bogey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beato_dim Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 As people have said previously, Ryder. Not neccessary as a protagonist, but as a sidekick, think 'more serious/down-to-earth version of Lamar'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kobeni Posted August 7, 2020 Share Posted August 7, 2020 (edited) Ryder in San Andreas and Bryan Forbes from VCS. But the biggest contender for number of characters with wasted potential obviously goes to GTA V. Hate to sound like a broken record but there's so many things to complain about, most of which was already covered by other members. I feel like Martin Madrazo could have potentially been a great and memorable character had he played a larger role in the storyline, which is a shame because it's a known fact that governmental bodies like the CIA and FBI have often clashed or worked with the cartels throughout history, and the fact that the cartel is pretty much the 21st century version of 30s-70s Cosa Nostra in terms of the power and influence they have in society. A rewrite of the storyline revolving around a clash between the bank robbers and these three factions would have been far more interesting than the mediocre "lap dogs for the CIA" plot they had in this game. Wei Cheng felt more like an afterthought tbh, and it just feels like he was thrown in 3/4's into the game dev to act as a more powerful foil to Tao Cheng's goofiness, as well as an excuse to include a triad gang in this game. Karen should have replaced Steve Haines's role tbh, at least by doing that we have a better idea as to why her personality is so sh*tty in this game. Steve Haines could've been like a corrupt IAA agent who secretly works with Dave or something. The worst example of this imo would be Johnny. Now for a game like GTA I don't expect the protagonists to all live happily ever after, in fact, I expect them to either be arrested or killed eventually, but the handling of Johnny's death felt like a major cop-out on Rockstar's part. Ideally, they could've made Johnny like a minor antagonist in the game or at least show the events that lead up to his death, but no they had to kill him in the most pointless and undignified way possible with a poorly-justified reason, just to act as some sort of character establishing moment for Trevor. It's a shame because a protagonist-turned-villain dynamic would have been an interesting idea for the series. Edited August 7, 2020 by DownInTheHole E Revere, god speed, Merquis and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evil empire Posted August 11, 2020 Share Posted August 11, 2020 (edited) It would have been cool to receive missions from Pastor Richards, the guy is an excellent caricature of the religious thieves/manipulators and could have offered a large diversity of jobs like steal money, eliminate rivals, destroy evidences and various deceptions to make people imagine the apocalypse is coming. Edited August 13, 2020 by Evil empire GhettoJesus 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Extreme Hunt Posted August 12, 2020 Share Posted August 12, 2020 Johnny and Martin Madrazo. Johnny's death was too quick and for Martin it seems he had so much power and wealth that wasn't utilized, especially after that kidnap stunt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhettoJesus Posted August 12, 2020 Share Posted August 12, 2020 On 8/11/2020 at 12:14 PM, Evil empire said: and various deceptions to make people imagine the apocalypse is coming. These type of missions especially would have been great comedic reliefs in the game, that's why I am a bit sad we didn't see him apart from a brief cutscene. Evil empire 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StraightouttaNewport Posted August 25, 2020 Share Posted August 25, 2020 Vic Vance. I genuinely think the idea of starting out the protag as a somewhat moral man and seeing them corrupted into a psychotic evil drug kingpin would have been a really cool idea. Instead Rockstar f*cked that up so badly to the point where people assume the guy from VC's intro is a completely different character entirely. Vic starts the game as a submissive goody two shoes who hates drugs and ends the game as a submissive goody two shoes who hates drugs. KingAJ032304 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bratva Assassin Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 (edited) If you are talking about wasted potential, I’d say virtually every LA boy from GTA V. SoCal people are all just the same! They’re too much talk and not enough action. And of course, Apollo Creed is the EPITOME of just that! That dumb bunny thought he could win over Ivan Drago! HA! Edited August 30, 2020 by Outlaw Biker Viking Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingAJ032304 Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 Here's an unpopular one for you guys: Victor Vance. Couldn't have been the most memorial protagonist till date. (Hell even the game couldn't have been the most member GTA game till date.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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