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RDR2 Vehicles Discussion

RDR2 Vehicles Discussion   

142 members have voted

  1. 1. What vehicles should be in RDR2, if any at all?

    • Penny Farthing
      19
    • Bicycle
      35
    • Glider (that works)
      18
    • Drivable Car (That's slower than a horse)
      36
    • Newfangled Flying Machine
      15
    • Just Horses, Carts and Trains
      101


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éX-Driver

The game looks to be set around 1900-1905, given the fact there's electricity. So horseless carriages aren't out of the question. But they'd only make sense in a modern (for the time period) city. And be only the domain of the incredibly wealthy. They're slow (around 10mph max), unreliable, impossible to find fuel for outside of cities, and mostly just a curiosity. So maybe if they include 2-3 in the major modern city being hidden by a mansion, and you're incapable of purchasing one at least in single player.

Maybe we'll be able to buy them in online, though. As a sort of badge of honour and bragging rights. In 1905, the average car cost $750-900. In a world where the average horse was about a tenth of that, and a decent farm was about $1000.

 

Bicycles are another story. Again, you'd only really see them in a city, but they were fairly common and fairly cheap. Penny Farthings were more an 1870s thing than a 1900s thing, but I doubt your average RDR2 player would be able to make the distinction so why not. Most bicycles in the early 1900s cost less than $40, which would only be about $500 now. To not include them at least in an uncommon form would be historically inaccurate.

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Beez

The game looks to be set around 1900-1905, given the fact there's electricity. So horseless carriages aren't out of the question. But they'd only make sense in a modern (for the time period) city. And be only the domain of the incredibly wealthy. They're slow (around 10mph max), unreliable, impossible to find fuel for outside of cities, and mostly just a curiosity. So maybe if they include 2-3 in the major modern city being hidden by a mansion, and you're incapable of purchasing one at least in single player.

Maybe we'll be able to buy them in online, though. As a sort of badge of honour and bragging rights. In 1905, the average car cost $750-900. In a world where the average horse was about a tenth of that, and a decent farm was about $1000.

 

Bicycles are another story. Again, you'd only really see them in a city, but they were fairly common and fairly cheap. Penny Farthings were more an 1870s thing than a 1900s thing, but I doubt your average RDR2 player would be able to make the distinction so why not. Most bicycles in the early 1900s cost less than $40, which would only be about $500 now. To not include them at least in an uncommon form would be historically inaccurate.

If your theory on the time period is correct there could be motorcycles in it as well. Indian started in 1901 and Harley-Davidson in 1903 and they weren't even the first motorcycle manufacturers in the U.S. or the world.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_motorcycle

 

http://www.motorcycle.com/events/the-first-motorcycle-45982.html

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Dust

In 1785 the first long distance Hot Air Balloon flight made it across the English channel.

I want to see Balloons in RDR2.

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Oldsport

I wouldnt mind driving a car thats slower than a horse. Button mashing the horse always killed my thumbs. And if they do add a flyable vehicle it should be unlocked sometimes towards the end of the game. Like maybe you have to steal it from one of the many inventors. And then use it to fly in and infilitrate a camp

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éX-Driver

I wouldnt mind driving a car thats slower than a horse. Button mashing the horse always killed my thumbs. And if they do add a flyable vehicle it should be unlocked sometimes towards the end of the game. Like maybe you have to steal it from one of the many inventors. And then use it to fly in and infilitrate a camp

Well by 1905 only the cheapest of cars were slower than a horse on level packed ground. 1900 wasn't too far off. The 1901 Mercedes 35hp could manage 30 miles an hour quite easily. The land speed record in 1904 was 91 miles an hour. Even in 1898, there was more than one car that could do 20mph.

In comparison, the fastest racehorses in the world have a hard time sustaining 40 miles an hour for a few seconds. Though to be fair, on rutted tracks and off road most cars of the Edwardian era would have a hard time managing 10-15 mph. Which would be a bit slower than most horses at a good gallop in the same terrain.

 

The most likely flying machines will be balloons. Would make for good observation posts. But in 1905, the Wright Bros had only first managed sustained powered controlled heavier than air flight 18 months prior. The only flying machines comparable would be glorified gliders that only work in a good headwind. The main reason I keep saying 1905 is because that's pretty much the absolute latest that Dutch's gang makes sense, which this game seems to be based on them. (Marathon left in 1906 or so)

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Shadowfennekin

I hope we can actually steal trains in FR. Pull off train thefts like we did in that Mexico mission in RD1. And control them similar to GTA V

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9i OTD

Standard stuff from RDR plus drive-able trains, glider, and judging from the trailer maybe canoes. The earlier setting means I doubt planes. What about a drive-able stream boat?

 

EDIT: Also early cars, how could I forget?

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russeler97

Hopefully...

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t3h PeNgU1N oF d00m

Last I remembered, the glider wasn't exactly aerodynamically sound. Plus, assuming the map is landlocked, Rockstar would have to implement an out-of-bounds area, which would be immersion-breaking if not done properly.

 

I'd like to see a model T and other similar vehicles in scarcity. To be fair, it would be extremely unlikely for someone to afford and maintain an automobile in the west at that time.

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Oldsport

I would buy a model t in rdr2

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Arlarse

 

I think if they add any flying machine or cars it will be ruined. It's the wild west... grab a horse.

It doesn't have to be accurate. AC2 had some sort of flying device.

 

Because it fitted in with the Da Vinci angle. Leonardo didn't necessarily build one in real life but he did create a detailed design of a flying machine.

 

 

Horses, wagons, boats, trains that's all the game needs, they just need to make plenty of variations.

 

 

Apart from giant walking spider tanks, definitely need one of those...

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tonko

No vehicle can compare with riding into sunset on your white Bronco.

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KarimNTerr

The War Horse is the best one for me. It's the only one I ever use.

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rtie

The War Horse is the best one for me. It's the only one I ever use.

 

I got kinda annoyed after I bought it, because it was ridiculously better than any of the horses so that's all I ever used.

 

Aesthetically though, I liked the Kentucky Saddler the best (the creamy white horse)

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Duduziinho1620

 

The War Horse is the best one for me. It's the only one I ever use.

 

I got kinda annoyed after I bought it, because it was ridiculously better than any of the horses so that's all I ever used.

 

Aesthetically though, I liked the Kentucky Saddler the best (the creamy white horse)

 

The Kentucky was my favorite as well, a beaulty skin-muscle-made machine!

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KarimNTerr

Me and the War Horse:

 

Rdr_jeb_blankenship.jpg

 

I f*cking love that horse, and yes, I've been using him since the beginning (I have the Game of the Year Edition).

 

Actually, there's a faster horse than the War Horse and it's the American Standardbred.

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Kirsty

The Warhorse and Kentucky Saddler were my favourites too. Honestly all I hope for is a variety of horse breeds again, all with different stats, so we can choose both what we like the look of and what performs.

 

I think these are all the "vehicles" we need for ultimate authenticity and immersion, however I'd be quite content if we had access to our own carriage and carts as well if we choose to use them, instead of them mainly being limited to fast travel or certain missions. I also wouldn't mind canoes or rafts for quick for water travel.

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éX-Driver

Gimme a bicycle or a victorian/Edwardian car, or I'm walking. Hate horses

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NeptuneLewisGunner

A  Hoffbrand and  Wolfmeuller  1894  motorcycle  would  be  fun,  as  would  a  bicycle,  a  car,  horses,  trains,  and  motor  boats, too

2 minutes ago, NeptuneLewisGunner said:

A  Hildebrand and  Wolfmueller  1894  motorcycle  would  be  fun,  as  would  a  bicycle,  a  car,  horses,  trains,  and  motor  boats, too

 

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berzelmayr

I really dislike cars in western settings, also since they looked rather lame before the 20th century:

 

639px-DMG-lastwagen-cannstatt-1896.jpg

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MarlboroMan1995

Don’t forget the bicycle scene is butch Cassidy and the Sundance kid There are gonna be bicycles!

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éX-Driver

Stand by my prior comments. This is an 1898 Peugeot, which absolutely fits in the time period. I can see cars being in the New Orleans-expy, potentially parked in the drives of the mansion for some rich landowner/businessman. Arthur probably won’t be able to interact with them, but there’s no reason your online player should be forbidden from doing so. 1899 was also the height of the bicycle craze in Europe and north America. Not having them would be like not having discos in a game set in the 70s. Again, I can see Arthur not being able to use them [but NPCs ride them everywhere in the city] but the online protagonist be able to steal/purchase them.

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BretMaverick777
4 hours ago, éX-Driver said:

Stand by my prior comments. This is an 1898 Peugeot, which absolutely fits in the time period. I can see cars being in the New Orleans-expy, potentially parked in the drives of the mansion for some rich landowner/businessman. Arthur probably won’t be able to interact with them, but there’s no reason your online player should be forbidden from doing so. 1899 was also the height of the bicycle craze in Europe and north America. Not having them would be like not having discos in a game set in the 70s. Again, I can see Arthur not being able to use them [but NPCs ride them everywhere in the city] but the online protagonist be able to steal/purchase them.

That wall of RDR2 company logos featured several references to bicycles, so they're almost certainly in the game.   Tellingly, nothing about automobiles or horseless carriages.  I wouldn't rule em out for online though. 

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MarlboroMan1995

Will donkeys make a return? Would seem cool to have mules for pulling wagons instead of horses all the time too. 

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SAS_Intruder

Just watched Big Jake with John Wayne.  Although from the historic perspective,  cars and motorcycles were ok for that period ( it was 1909) , it did kinda ruin immersion for me. Movie was a decent one but I had difficulty watching horses, automobiles and motorcycle in same scene.  That being said, I wouldn't mind couple of examples but only in large cities. Cars should be slow and barely useful at all outside of pavement /dirt road. They should break easily as well. 

 

If cars would  offer more than horses, game would be in danger of becoming GTA. So If it was strictly my decision,  I would stick to trains, horses, wagons, mules, bicycles and small boats/canoes.  Any examples of cars or motorcycles would be single play only.

 

 

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Morgan

Just Horses, Carts and Trains for me. Old school cowboys on the run.

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Guest

I'll make my way to the Lion Estates in Hill Valley. Should be a barn with a Deluxo there somewhere. 

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Commander S

Looks like Saint Denis will have period-authentic electric streetcars - wonder if it'll also have mule/horse-drawn ones, too:

 

1893-press-photo-an-electrified-streetca

 

New+Orleans+circa+1890.+The+Clay+Monumen

 

 

I wouldn't be surprised if there's a side mission involving someone with a prototype automobile, as a nod towards the early gasoline-powered cars by the Duryea brothers:

 

DuryeaBrothers.jpg

 

 

Again, though, unlikely to see them as standard - not unless RDR2 Online decides to do the GTAO thing, skip ahead a few years eventually, and then add the 1901 Oldsmobile "Curved Dash", the first mass-produced motorcar in the US:

 

1904-olds-002.jpg

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theEwing1979

I dread to think what sh*t they'll add to online in order to try and squeeze a few dollars out of us. 

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LeakyLine
On 9/19/2018 at 6:42 AM, McGhee said:

I'll make my way to the Lion Estates in Hill Valley. Should be a barn with a Deluxo there somewhere. 

I actually do hope there's a Deluxo sitting in a cave somewhere next to a pair of sneakers as an easter egg.

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